Masha Ivanova
Timon, Timon! I measured everything. The Princess has the lower part = 2cm and the upper part = 2cm It turns out = 4cm the inner height of the product.
And for Klatronic, the lower part = 2.5 cm And its upper part, although it is 0.5 cm, (but this is only in the case when you are looking at this lid), and when you close the lid, the inner diameter of which is smaller than the diameter of the bottom parts of Klatronic, it turns out that the upper part is included in the lower one. And thus, the height does not increase. So it remains = 2.5 cm The grill is still called!
I don't know if she explained it clearly. If anything, ask more.
Timon
Masha Ivanova, Thank you very much . Everything is very clear. Another question - in the subject they wrote that the lid has a backlash, and thus you can put the shape higher inside, while increasing the internal height - how much do you think?
Masha Ivanova
Timon, wait another 5 minutes. went different forms to insert




Timon, Timon! I’m unlikely to help you with the forms. Basically, I have them with a diameter of 30 cm or high, about 4 cm. Forms 4 cm and do not close close. There is one form-Pyrex, it is 28cm and 3cm in height, barely entered there and is also somehow difficult to close. The cover opens. It does not open only if you hold it with your hand on top (or put something heavy). It is necessary to insert there a form of smaller diameter of different heights and try, but I don’t have smaller ones.
There is some play on the lid, but not much. I think that anything above 3cm will not fit.
Do you need Klatronic? Princess 115000 not satisfied? A proven and excellent stove! They say they disappeared in stores. But today I looked at Avito. There are still quite a few! If you are going to buy there, just do not confuse her with Princess 115001 or Home Club. In the first picture, the first princess is often depicted (115001), and inside you will look at the ad, and there is a princess 115001
Timon
Thank you very much, Elena! The princess is not happy with the size. Needed for 1-2 servings. I think the clathronic is too big, but the choice is not great. At the same time, another device is planned for lush baking.
Mandraik Ludmila
Timon, my husband and I live together in the village and we have a Princess, there is enough pizza for a couple of days, but to fry potatoes - the husband alone eats at a time. We don't have a lot of princesses for two, but just right On Avita now you can buy a princess for 1000r, I bought a ksatati there for the same three thousand years ago, which I do not regret.




Forms 5 cm in height fit into the Princess.
Masha Ivanova
Timon, Timon! See for yourself, of course. In the Princess, you can bake without a form and put a form of any size in it, thereby reducing the size of the product. And the Klatronic is still a more narrowly targeted device. It is, after all, more like a grill. But you know better.
Anyway, good luck! And come visit us after purchase. We love all new people. And men especially (despite their young age!)
RepeShock
Quote: Timon
Needed for 1-2 servings.

Any of the Princesses is suitable for 1-2 servings.
Moreover, more different dishes can be prepared, since the height is greater than that of the Klatronic.

But the choice, of course, is yours

Timon
Thank you girls for the warm welcome The choice fell on the clathronic after watching the video of Maria, where she prepares pizza in it. I decided that the size fits. and most importantly, thin pizza and grilled vegetables
Irgata
Quote: Timon
and most importantly thin pizza
after all, there is not enough space for pizza, and it bakes longer.
Princess 1 is better for pizza, she is sharpened for pizza. Hot, fast, and even higher inside, there is no need to fear that the filling will stick to the lid.

Today I baked dough pancakes in Klatrosh as for Yorkshire pudding, only on water, I do this if there is no milk, in Princess 1 the Yorkshire pudding is fried, the bubbles are large, round, especially if the dough is on milk, but in Klatrosh it is more likely boiled at first than fried. Baked with the lid closed.
When I diluted the dough still - that is, the pancake dough turned out completely, then the pancakes turned out to be good - not overdried, so soft, I liked it. Baking, too, with the lid closed. Another time I will try to fry pancakes like a pancake, i.e.decomposing Klatrosh)
I liked the biscuit in it, meat, casseroles are different, I made ciabatta cakes.
sleepyhead
Quote: Timon
The princess is not happy with the size. Needed for 1-2 servings.
And you have not considered Tortilochka? I am delighted with her. I am very pleased that I bought it.
Timon
Quote: Irgata
after all, there is not enough space for pizza, and it bakes longer
Here's how to understand these ovens? It would seem clathronic - more power, less area, why does it bake longer? Maria said thin pizza baked faster and better due to the small height. Apparently here it depends on the instance




Quote: soneyka
And you have not considered Tortilochka? I am delighted with her. I am very happy that I bought it
Svetlana, I followed your adventures with great attention :) I think your choice is correct. But as a second device I need specifically thin pizza and vegetables. I like the tortilla very much, but a little power for me.




Quote: Irgata
after all, there is not enough space for pizza
And for a small pizza, for one or two?
Irgata
Quote: Timon
And for a small pizza, for one or two?
if thin pizza is ok.
In the video, Maria's top still got boiled, and the cake had to be baked beforehand, but do we need it?
It is more convenient to put it on and let it bake itself.
Well, the faster Princess-1 bakes.
They write differently about the Princess with a thermostat, but they also bake pizza on max.
Tristar is praised if it is still for sale.
nila
PR2 just made pizza for me and my husband. The dough is what I wrote. Yeast-free, with kefir from Julia.
I kneaded it in a bowl, poured a handful of corn polenta into the PR and turned the soft dough right onto the polenta. She formed there, without a rug and this time without a form. Then he smeared it liberally with Dolmio sauce, pounded with hard cheese and sprinkled with finely chopped pickles. Then on top a little mayonnaise and smoked sausage, mushrooms. Then just a little more sauce, and bell peppers and tomatoes from the freezer. Scattered mozzarella and sprinkle with basil, lightly mayonnaise. I baked it for 15 minutes, turned it off for about 20 minutes, under a closed lid. I didn't exactly timed it in time
Here's a pizza. The base is soft, but the husband only recognizes such a dough
Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)
Svetlana201
Timon, Timon, I have a Tristar and a tortilla, we make pizza almost every day here and there, everywhere super pizza (we love thin) 8 minutes and you're done. Have a good choice.
Natusichka
Oh, girls, I didn't get notifications ... I didn't see you asking for the recipe. Today I will write and exhibit pictures.




As promised, I'm giving you a recipe for a bulk pizza.
DOUGH:
- 100 grams of milk
- 2 eggs
- a pinch of salt
- 100 gr flour
FILLING:
- mayonnaise (I have homemade, of course)
- ketchup
- ham - about 150-200 gr
- mozzarella cheese - about 200 gr. I had a small slice of mozzarella and I also added a slice of regular hard cheese. Here as you wish
- olives
- greens
Turn on the pizza maker at 2/3 power.
Mix ingredients for dough. It is obtained by the consistency between pancakes and pancakes.
Grease the surface with oil (you can use anything, I smeared with ghee oil).
Lay out the dough, spread it over the entire surface and, without covering, let it grab. Then brush the surface (not a lot) with mayonnaise and ketchup (I sprayed them from a bag with a hole). Here you can tame it with grated cheese. Top with thinly sliced ​​ham, halved olives and top with cheese. Bake with the lid closed at the same power for about 20 minutes, watch when ready, because each has its own temper! Sprinkle the pizza with herbs, I love dill.
Remove the pizza on a wire rack using the spatulas. Cut the finished pizza with scissors. It turns out a thin dough and a very tasty filling! This pizza has recently taken 1st place in our family!
Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)
Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)
Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)
Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)

Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)
Katko
I also took Klatrona after the Princesses for all sorts of vegetables and fish, cutlets there)
They are really different. Princesses, yes, quicker and hotter and more versatile.
But in Klatron I am afraid even 2.5 cm is not, I recently baked a thin cake, so the cheese was imprinted in one place on the upper grill.
Timon, nothing prevents you from baking thin pizza in Princess, I do this regularly
And finally, of course, it's better than both of them, it's very convenient
Masha Ivanova
Katko, Kate! The lower part is exactly 2.5 cm I measured exactly, with different rulers around it I ran.
Katko
Elena, but the top one seems to sag down when closing
Masha Ivanova
Katko, Kate! It seems to me not. Although I could be wrong. My Klatronic is so new and worth it, it hasn't baked in it yet. If you baked a small pie in Clathron, then the top would probably be pressed against the lid. And then you can accurately measure the finished cake.
Katko
Masha Ivanova, I judge by cakes and cutlets
Still, yes, this is more a contact grill, but with not grill heat at all), on the contrary, more delicate, mmm, but how he bakes cheesecakes, class!
optimist
Natusichka, I will try this option too. Today I did it on kefir dough with the addition of soda.
Why don't you want to draw up a recipe so that the recipe is not lost ?, you have a photo of the preparation!
Timon
Girls, beauties! Sorry to be so familiar. YOU don’t know me, I’ve known you all for a long time. I didn’t spend one night with you. I decided to drink some coffee about 3-4 years ago. And I love laté, I got to the bread maker in search of a cappuccinator. Well, that's it .... My wife is jealous of you, really. There are so many tragedies in life - there is no place in the kitchen for a long time, the pantry is all in boxes, even in the bedroom there are several residents. There is no understanding in the family. I understood everything, it’s impossible to live like this, I decided to re-plan the kitchen, started repairs, demolished the wall, my wife was already thinking about the doctor ... And all YOU are insidious, where you cannot go and everything is so necessary, so necessary. You are now writing about your husbands - how to legalize another toy, everyone thinks that your disease is only female, in our family it even happened the other way around. So this time I thought everything, for a small pizza, a small oven, the last and nothing else and never, I have everything. I wanted a clathronic (it is as much as 2 cm in diameter less) And they to me - no more delicious pizza in the princess !! Yes, my wife will drive me out of the house Thank you all for your understanding
kavmins
Timon, thanks for cheering up in the morning, hold on!)))))
Ilmirushka
Timon, yes ushshshsh ... The situation is more than familiar.
Curiosity gnaws, and the spouse uses at least something from that which is no longer included?
L
Timon, Timon, hold on! But Pasaran!

Here you will be supported, felt and always helped!
Can your wife start a hobby too? You work in this direction, they say, it's good for someone whose wife is embroidering with a cross ... or a sweater knits, and so slowly but surely you will involve her, and then, you look, and you are calmer, and the situation is more pleasant
Another question: and in terms of food, how is your wife? Pizza in this regard gives ample opportunities, can you surprise her as something like fast, smart, tasty?
Irgata
Quote: Timon
And they tell me - there is no pizza tastier in the princess !!
oh yeah laadnoo ..
tasty everywhere.
Klatronic is good also because it can be decomposed.
By the way, you can take a closer look at Kitfort KT-1614 Pizza Maker, GFgril GFB-1500 Pizza-Grill Multi-oven = inside like Princesses, clamshell like Clathronic.
If they are still on sale

Ilmirushka
Quote: Irgata
By the way, you can take a closer look at Kitfort KT-1614 Pizza Maker, GFgril GFB-1500 Pizza-Grill Multi-Oven = inside like Princesses, clamshell like Clathronic.
If they are still on sale
Irina, I will add my Gourmet to your list
Irgata
Quote: Ilmirushka
and your Gourmet

sleepyhead
Good morning. I bake jellied pizza like that. I spread the dough, then the cheese and the rest of the ingredients. I turn on the Tortilla for 10 minutes on mode 4 for 10 minutes. Then I grease with a mixture: 1 tbsp. a heaping spoonful of ketchup plus 1 tablespoon of tomato paste and sprinkle with cheese again. And then I bake in the same mode for another 10-15 minutes (depending on the voltage in the network). In the afternoon, 10 minutes is enough, and in the evening you need 15. We have tension in the evening - nothing is visible at all. It lubricates well and turns out very tasty. I make a dough with mayonnaise and baking powder, it's not really for pizza, but tastier than a simple cake made from egg milk and water. I really like this technology.
Arinna
Quote: Masha Ivanova

Timon, wait another 5 minutes. went different forms to insert





Timon, Timon! I’m unlikely to help you with the forms. Basically, I have them with a diameter of 30 cm or high, about 4 cm. Forms 4 cm and do not close close.There is one form-Pyrex, it is 28cm and 3cm in height, barely entered there and is also somehow difficult to close. The cover opens. It does not open only if you hold it with your hand on top (or put something heavy). It is necessary to insert there a form of smaller diameter of different heights and try, but I don’t have smaller ones.
There is some play on the lid, but not much. I think that anything above 3cm will not fit.
Do you need Klatronic? Princess 115000 not satisfied? A proven and excellent stove! They say they disappeared in stores. But today I looked at Avito. There are still quite a few! If you are going to buy there, just do not confuse her with Princess 115001 or Home Club. In the first picture, the first princess is often depicted (115001), and inside you will look at the ad, and there is a princess 115001
Has anyone compared Princesses to Home Club? My Noum Club from Lenta looks no different, it bakes beautifully, we have already made an infinite number of pizzas from different doughs, I want to buy another one. Should you pay extra for the Princess? Who knows?
Masha Ivanova
Arinna, hardly anyone will tell you whether it is worth overpaying or not. To do this, you need to test both side by side. There were complaints about the Home Club from those who bought them about the weak baking in these stoves. (They bake poorly). There were no other complaints. It is clear that if the stove bakes poorly, then no one needs it. But we have all seen more than once that stoves of the same brand often differ from one instance to another. Someone has two identical Princesses 115,000 baked differently, etc.
Therefore, if you come across a Home Club stove that suits you in terms of baking speed, then use it to your health! She is a complete analogue externally of the Princess 115001 with a thermostat.




Arinna, buy a second, bake a couple of products at home right away. If the oven is the same as yours, everything is fine. It will bake slowly, then back up.
Timon
Quote: Ilmirushka
Curiosity gnaws, and the spouse uses at least something from that which is no longer included?
Quote: L
Another question: and in terms of food, how is your wife?
Girls, do not believe me, this morning timidly asked my wife, they say, it is possible not one stove, but like one and a half, because I can’t do it alone - I screamed, sometimes turning to screeching that I’m making a cult out of food! The whole apartment is cluttered, I don't let me sleep at night (I just try out another bread recipe at night, conjuring over a bread maker, then the slow cooker even wakes up the neighbor's dog with smells, then I dried the fish in the dryer, my wife almost nailed it - all the flavored ones left for work). And I try in every possible way, everything is for her ... Here's to her employees, I constantly give fresh bread to the boss, I bake cakes in general (we just don't have time to eat all my experiments) Neighbors generally come to me like to a bakery in the morning. My wife screams, you’re like an alcoholic, when you last promised, you don’t bring anything into the house anymore (I’ve never brought the third bread maker from a friend, she didn’t know about the second one either, and the third one ... a cheap European, new in packaging, girls, relatives, well, which of you would refuse? and she screams either me or they) I’m a pizza oven what I wanted - a mini bakery opened next to it, and there are such delicious Ossetian pies there, I dream of repeating a pancake, my wife also liked it, but she doesn't want to hear about the princess, she thinks I'm crazy, or maybe because of the name ..?
Arinna
Quote: Masha Ivanova

Arinna, hardly anyone will tell you whether it is worth overpaying or not. To do this, you need to test both side by side. There were complaints about the Home Club from those who bought them about the weak baking in these stoves. (They bake poorly). There were no other complaints. It is clear that if the stove bakes poorly, then no one needs it. But we have all seen more than once that stoves of the same brand often differ from one instance to another. Someone has two identical Princesses 115,000 baked differently, etc.
Therefore, if you come across a Home Club stove that suits you in terms of baking speed, then use it to your health! She is a complete analogue externally of the Princess 115001 with a thermostat.




Arinna, buy a second, bake a couple of products at home right away. If the oven is the same as yours, everything is fine. It will bake slowly, then back up.
Thank you. Bakes not weakly, 10 minutes and you're done! And the oven just warms up for 10 minutes.Nothing burns, the surface is of course the shore. I'm still not going to try such wonderful recipes on the site, thank you very much for the recipes. I will definitely try, but for now I only make pizza for children, sometimes 2-3 per day.
Irgata
Timon, you need to go to a bakery and get a job - your hobby will turn into income, your wife will calm down.
Actually, and that's true - all these kitchen bells and whistles money from the wallet is not sickly dragging
Yeah ... that's what our husbands feel when they don't understand how food from just a saucepan / frying pan / oven differs from food from "devices"
In general, if we are honest, nothing special
Ilmirushka
Timon, honestly? Chot I'm right here ... with difficulty veriTSa, aHa, with difficulty, with difficulty
Is there a catch here
Timon
Quote: Ilmirushka
I will add my Gourmet to your list
Ilmira, tell me, but as a cover at the moment, I read Temko, I thought about him
Irgata

June
Timon, honest? Chot I'm right here ... with difficulty veriTSa, aHa, with difficulty, with difficulty
Is there a catch here
Not ... well, our girlish emotions are dressed up in crafty words ... Everything is so ... Everything is so ...
Ilmirushka
Quote: Timon

Ilmira, tell me, but as a cover at the moment, I read Temko, I thought about him
Timon, to me without any problems on "you".
The coating is fine. As in the first time of use, a circle burned on the top panel (showed a photo in the subject), so everything is in the same state. It's just that I don't use it for the last time, but not because it's bad or good, there is simply no one to feed, and there are many other devices.
And when there are a lot of them, the feeling that they are all somehow idle, although I bake and fry and cook
Timon
Quote: Ilmirushka
Timon, honest? Chot I'm right here ... with difficulty veriTSa, aHa, with difficulty, with difficulty
Is there a catch here
: lol: It's like, in a week I'll be praising or promoting something? She, I'm trying to stop myself, I think nowhere else, I won't go into any extraneous topic on the bread maker. I thought evil about the pizza oven. I am fond of the type of healthy eating, I got carried away with baking bread with whole grain flour. I thought frying was not mine, as if it would not tighten
Ilmirushka
Quote: Timon
I thought frying was not mine, as if it would not tighten
Oh well
And knives, grating boards, spirolizers, flour grinders, blenders, soup cookers ... pasta machines ...
Read - do not reread, and if you really get sick ... Kick-ass, in short - at home a warehouse, as in a good store
Aygul
Timon, is there an oven? You can also try Ossetian pies in it, actually. Although my Princess went with me to live in another city. This is one of the necessary devices in my kitchen. The husband even sometimes reminds me that "I want it, do it in a pizza maker"
Timon
Quote: Ilmirushka
to me without any problems on "you".
The coating is fine.
Immediately, too, EVERYONE, EVERYONE, EVERYONE, to me on you, it's more comfortable. About the coating, did I understand correctly that it is one of those modern stone marble? And what about the pizza in it, I like thin, crispy




Quote: Aygul
Timon, do you have an oven?
Aygul, There is an oven, it was a privilege of the wife. Honestly never tried. Before getting on the bread maker, I cooked only scrambled eggs. And now he is not a culinary specialist in any way, just really delayed. We are now thinking of giving up the oven, there is absolutely no place in the kitchen. It's just that there are already a bunch of slow cookers, bread makers, if there is also a pizza oven, I hope we will not feel discomfort. The oven has been overgrown with cobwebs for 3 years
Ilmirushka
Quote: Timon
About the coating, did I understand correctly that it is one of those modern stone marble? And what about the pizza in it, I like thin, crispy
yeah, that's right, marble. The pizza in it is wonderful, well, and thin, it's like rolling out the dough. I did everything, both thin and thick, where the edge is like bread.

Recently I got used to making a fictitious pizza - from thin lavash. I cut out many layers to size, sprinkle a little cheese and fillings and into Tortilla. And everything is glued together with cheese, and there are a lot of fillings, and even like a lavash crunch



Timon
Quote: Ilmirushka
And knives, grating boards, spirolizers, flour grinders, blenders, soup cookers ... pasta machines.
Yes, I'm afraid myself, I recently caught my eye - a soy cow, I think what kind of garbage, I certainly don't need it, I looked into the topic, barely took my legs, calmed myself - like then ... Horror
Ilmirushka
Quote: Timon
I barely carried my legs, I calmed myself - like then ... Horror
Exactly!

As a result, I have two soup blenders.

Timon
Quote: Ilmirushka
aha, that's right, from marble
Ilmira, I just met reviews that on such a coating it turns out steamed boiled and you can't make a real pizza on it
Ilmirushka
Quote: Timon

Ilmira, I just met reviews that on such a coating it turns out steamed boiled and you can't make a real pizza on it
not true!
Once I got such a pizza, not a pizza, but why blame the mirror if the face is crooked? The gourmet baked me what I piled on him! And I piled raw minced meat into it. Well, it’s clear that the minced meat, sensing the warmth, started to give away its fragrant juices ... a lot of juices. So what kind of pizza am I

fool-woman

it should have rained
Timon
In addition to breads, cakes in a bread maker, casseroles in a cartoon, I have not baked anything in my life. I attracted the pizza maker by the fact that they supposedly boast quickly, conveniently, without confusion. And the main place is in the kitchen. I dream of throwing out the oven, but you can't make pizza and Ossetian pies in a cartoon
Irinap
I'm in the pizza maker for now only baking honey cake. And still I love her dearly. As I imagine that in the summer to turn on the oven to bake a cake, not a cake right away, I don't want anything. Quickly, there is no heat in the kitchen. Class!

PS I have a kitchen 2 x 2 and then grabbed appliances

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