Manyasha89
Hello everyone! Help me please!!! I want to buy a car, here are 2 questions ... from which mite: kenwood. com or kenwoodrussia, I'm afraid it's okay everywhere! And which one to buy, with induction the latest model or titanium? Do I need induction! And more often the question ... is not very convenient with 4.6, but I'm afraid it won't capture (((
Violin
Manyasha89, you need to read at least a few last pages of this topic-here just recently all this was discussed :) read it, you will find a lot of useful information. And about the size of the bowl, and about the induction. And if, in short, the volume of the bowl depends on the size of the family, that is, you need to take into account the volumes of the dishes you usually cook. It captures everything perfectly in a large bowl, and in a small one, the nozzles are height-adjustable. Induction is needed if you make custards, choux pastry, sauces, and bake bread. But it is not a stove that is used every day ... Induction happens only with a large bowl, and without induction there are 4.6 and 6.7 liters.
Manyasha89
Violin, thanks) And about the official site on which it is better to buy, can you tell me?
Violin
Manyasha89, I didn't buy from the officials, so I won't tell you.
Belka13
Manyasha89, on kenwood-bt there are good discounts on induction models, on Autocoffee discounts on 020 and similar models. So it's up to you to choose, we all bought KM in different places.
cv-1963
Hurrah! It's finished! Brought 096!
Thank you all for your help in choosing a model, and Natalia (4udo) and Veta (Sprig) are very grateful for their help with the purchase !!!
Since I was warned about the enormous size of the box, I calmly reacted to the size.
I bought it at kenwood -bt. Everything was neatly packed, a bonus to the set included: scales, a map and a master class (for 1 person). True, I do not know where they spend in St. Petersburg. Now the whole apartment is in boxes!
Absolutely self-confident Handsome! The bowl, at first glance, is too big, but let's see at work. According to the instructions (read diagonally), it seemed difficult to operate.
Bijou
cv-1963, hurray-uraaa !!!
Congratulations!!! May it please for many, many years!
Twig
cv-1963, Hurrah!!!
It is not difficult
Miranda
cv-1963, Hurrah! Congratulations!
Let it serve for a long time and please!

The car is not complicated at all.
It's just that the instructions are always boring to read.

The attachments, in addition to the hook, can / must be twisted to the height. Then one squirrel will beat the whisk.

The rest of the knowledge will be applied along the way
Bijou
Quote: Miranda
The attachments, in addition to the hook, can / must be twisted to the height.
Is it just this model that the hook is not adjustable? In the Chef, I am spinning for a sweet soul.)
Miranda
Bijou, interest Ask.
In induction, you definitely don't need to twist the hook.
Rather, not something that is not needed, but the manufacturer prohibits it.
kseniya D
In all machines, the hook does not need to be touched.
cv-1963
Thank you for your congratulations!
I hope we will be friends with him! TTT!
Bijou
A .. So there is a possibility of adjustment, but the manufacturer does not order? Well, that's another matter.)) And then I saw that I had the same nut and thread on my hook as not the other nozzles, so I was surprised - I misunderstood so wrong that there is a hook without the possibility of regulation.
zvezda
cv-1963Sveta!!!
I was also given a coupon for a master class: friends: but they didn't give me a gift ... only a card for a 7% discount
Maybe you and I are neighbors ??? we will cooperate on some issues !!
Yesterday I made a Swiss meringue, but decided to dry it and .... in general, I forgot it and just a chocolate and currant meringue turned out ... I'll arrange it, I'll post it !! I also cooked toffee! For me, I just wanted something ... delicious !!! All the same, he is clever !!!!!!
Smurfie
Sveta! Hurrah! Congratulations! You will make friends with him!
And there is nothing complicated there! First, do not forget to set the temperature knob to zero after working with induction!
cv-1963
Goodnight!
The first pancake is lumpy!
I tried to bake charlotte "heated" according to the recipe from the site. Everything went well at first. The eggs were beaten "with a bang", but then when the flour was added everything "hit". There are no complaints about Kesha, it looks like my arms grow from where my legs are. This is what I mean .... where is it more correct to ask questions about adjusting nozzles and about all kinds of different things about the intricacies of the CM?
zvezda, Olga, very cool! we will definitely cooperate! Need to find out about the master class. I'll throw off my coordinates.
And, of course, I confirm that he is Clever!
Zhanik
zvezda, Olya! I have a voice too! I also want to sing (c) I want to go to MK, ready for full price if possible ... Soon I will cover myself with moss at home (((
zvezda
Sveta!! We will definitely cooperate !!!
Natasha !!!You live two steps away from me ... what's the problem ... let's agree !!!!!!!
LisaNeAlisa
Svetlana, but tell us how and how they mixed the flour, if there is no souffleika, then it was worth it with your hands.
Vinochek
Svetlana, congratulations on your purchase! Let Kesha serve for a long time!
cv-1963
LisaNeAlisa, intervened with a K-nozzle at a minimum.
Vinochek, Thanks, i will do my best!

Can you please tell me at what distance from the bottom the nozzles should be adjusted?
Masinen
And so I tell my impressions of the new CHEF TITANIUM

Brief Overview of Titanium Chef
Motor warranty 10 years
Outwardly, I liked the car more than SENS, It looks brutal and immediately gives the impression of a serious kitchen machine
Looks expensive
The build quality is good, everything is adjusted everywhere, there is no backlash and no creaks, no looseness.
There are no rounds like in SENS, which gives the car a serious look.
Compared with SENS and Cooking Chef

Kenwood Kitchen Machines

A backlit control wheel, there is a gentle stirring speed, then there is a minimum, and so on. There is a Pulse mode
Kenwood Kitchen Machines

Two jacks - high speed
Kenwood Kitchen Machines
and low speed hex input Kenwood Kitchen Machines
Magnetic plugs, removable easily and without stress))

Bowl illumination
Kenwood Kitchen Machines
Which can be enabled and disabled forcibly
Or leave it on the machine
Backlight button
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When raising the head of the mixer, the backlight turns off
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As you can see in the photo, the Titanium bowl is the same as that of SENSA

Very convenient, well, very straight, a lever for raising the mixer head
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Yes, the hook is like Bosch's, only thick and heavy. I don't know, it's better than the old one. but clearly not better than Cooking Chef: girl_win:
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Therefore, I advise you not to flatter yourself))
You have to try everything, so I cannot praise what I have not tried, or, on the contrary, not praise.

Well, I didn't take pictures of the attachments, they already have photos on the Internet))
The impressions are:
Turning it on, you can immediately hear how the motor works and hums, putting your hand on the body, you feel the vibration, which I did not like. But the roar of the engine was not pleasant even more.
I compare to the top model - Cooking Chef
In the top model, there is not a hum of the engine, and there is no vibration, the machine runs very quietly.
But if we compare SENS and Titanium Chef, then SENS lost to Titanium. SENS works even louder.
But there is immediately a question of price, SENS costs 30 kopecks, and Titanium is under 60 thousand.
And if you choose what to buy for 60 thousand, then there are no questions.
Of course CookingChef

Yes, Titanium is good, but it falls short of the price of almost a thousand euros.
I think that the price is too high for him.
This is my personal opinion, to which it is not necessary to listen)


I made this review for my favorite forum.
I hope someone will come in handy)
Bijou
Masinen, Oh cool! Thank you.

Mash, but in these models with a switch on the twist, how is the control structured? I select the rotation speed and then turn on the button, starting the program? Or, in the old fashioned way, the program is selected by turning the wheel, and the switch for the general disconnection of the machine from the network? On the mind, of course, there should be the first option, so that on the way to your regime you do not go through the previous ones, but in fact, how is it?
Or is the entire system of separate disconnection from the network invented only to be able to turn on the light bulb at rest?
Masinen
Lena, just spin the wheel and that's it))
Like the others, it just has a Mixer Off mode.
Bijou
Nice ... And why is that cooler than in old cars without a separate switch? As I understand it, there the transfer to the rest position in the same way disconnects the machine from the network.
Masinen
Quote: Bijou
As I understand it, there the transfer to the rest position in the same way disconnects the machine from the network.

Well, yes, most likely so.
Well, the old ones don't have a backlight, and you also don't have to disconnect from the network, but the Induction one has to be turned off, because its display is on.
LisaNeAlisa
Svetlana, Keshka knocked down all the airiness, try to mix everything dry with a spatula.
Masinen
Quote: cv-1963
intervened with a K-nozzle at a minimum.
Yes, K will not work, then it is better to leave the whisk and knead the flour slowly for a minute.

And it is best to buy a soufflé nozzle.
Air
Quote: cv-1963

Can you please tell me at what distance from the bottom the nozzles should be adjusted?

The girls have already answered these questions a hundred times here.
Do not be lazy, read this topic and the topic about attachments, you will find out a lot of useful information.
Peter Push
Quote: Masinen
Brief Overview of Titanium Chef
MasinenThank you very much for reviewing this new item. Personally, this car did not impress me, there is no revolutionary breakthrough in technology, and so some convenient little things, pleasant, but not necessary, and besides the switch and the backlight, the chopped off hook, we have already seen all this in other machines. And why such a price I do not understand, before the induction, as to Kiev on foot. I think it should cost like 20 (23), or even cheaper. The essence of progress is in the production of better quality and cheaper. Maria, thank you again


Added Sunday, 30 Oct 2016 2:57 PM

Quote: Air
Quote: cv-1963 from Today at 11:33 am
Can you please tell me at what distance from the bottom the nozzles should be adjusted?

The girls have already answered these questions a hundred times here.

And the instructions clearly say - "almost to the bottom." I do not urge you to read the whole topic, but at least number 3. It's a big job for you to read, but to answer the same page through the page, what do you think? In general, with the purchase of you, only pleasant impressions !!! Yes, from a stainless steel the keshka is very heavy, and the whipped one will easily fail, I intervene with the keshka, I have it from selumin, twice as light, So next time intervene with your hands.
Miranda
Masinen, thanks for the review and photo.

The car is interesting, but not in comparison with the Cooking Chef.

I liked the backlight - it's really convenient.
I liked the look.
Didn't hook the lever at all like on Sense. I personally have a car perpendicular to the wall. It is more convenient for me to raise my head from the side, and not stretch along the car to the wall. Therefore, for me, such a lever is about nothing.

The cover, judging by the photo, as in 020 (did not see the reincarnation of 060), the protective screen rises with the head. That is, it is put on and taken off in an idle state. And toss something only through the window. Cooking's removable lid also has a minus - it must be put somewhere, as it was removed. But this is covered by a big plus - put it on and off without turning off the process.

It's hard to talk about the wheel without trying it. As well as about the nozzles.

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If you compare with Cooking, then at the same price at the moment there is no doubt about it - Cooking.

This is induction, which, even if not often (I often have it), but it is.
This is a timer - and just keep track of the time, and the countdown of the set and automatic stop when the time is up.
This is the hook.

If the difference in price was higher by 20-30 thousand. and more, then, of course, the flour of choice. But at the moment they are not.

I don’t know to choose between 010/050 with a small bowl and 020/060 with a large bowl and the new Titaniums with a small / large bowl. But, again, the decisive factor is the price.

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And another such moment.
New nests for nozzles, and a new bowl, is affordability. The used market is not so filled at the moment with a new connector, and the demand is not the same, and the market for new ones is also not as wide as that of the old ones.

Over time, the situation will, of course, become exactly the opposite. The old connector will become rare. But it will take at least 3-4-5 years, if not more.Well, we must wait for the new induction, what kind of connector and bowl will be there. Will it be interchangeable with the old induction and 020 (023) / 060 (063) or it will be interchangeable with the new Senses and Titaniums.

In general, the topic of new nozzles / sockets, inevitable adapters is a favorite item of additional income for many manufacturers. For example, smartphones, cameras, storage media.

So I'm 90% sure the new induction will come with new connectors and new hex bits. This is a shame, because everything accumulated, all five suede jackets will have to be changed after changing the car in 7+ years.

I leave 10% for the old connector. Since having two lines of connectors, oddly enough, is also beneficial, although it requires additional. effort. It would be nice, but add. efforts are still confusing. But we will wait for a new induction, I don’t think it will take long, a maximum of a year before the announcement.
Masinen
Peter Push, I'm glad that it was interesting for you to get acquainted with the new car)

Miranda, and the Titanium has a removable lid, but you can not remove it)

I compared him more with Sens, because they are about the same level, only in the price of more than one))
Of course, before Sens, the Titanium wins in everything but price.
And quieter and better design, before and generally +++ to Titanium.
And if we take induction and Titanium, then, of course, induction rules everything, without even taking into account the fact that they plan to release a new model.
The Cooking bought now will work for 10 years for sure, and I don't want him.
And even more.
Therefore, you must immediately stock up on attachments with an old pin.
Miranda
Quote: Masinen
Titanium has a removable lid, but you can not remove it)

ABOUT! Is she so and so? Good thing then.
How is this done? Is there a latch?
Quote: Masinen
I compared him more with Sens, because they are about the same level, only in the price of more than one))

I never considered Sens, because I didn't like the nozzles there, not stainless steel because.

With Cooking, it's clear, at the same price there is nothing to think about.
And if we compare it with non-inductive ones, that's a question.
Quote: Masinen
The Cooking bought now will work for 10 years for sure, and I don't want him. And even more.
Therefore, you must immediately stock up on attachments with an old pin.

I also believe / hope that I have Cooking for a long time.
Even 5 years are many, not in the sense of work, but in the sense of the modern world, which will come up with 100 more changes during this time.

With the old pin it can and will be released.
This is also practiced, that while old models are in operation, a part for them is produced. At least for at least another couple of years, nozzles for the old connector will not be removed from production. I mean attachments such as a meat grinder, cubes, dough sheeter and so on at a low speed. But whisk hooks, if machines with such a connector will not be produced, is already a question. I think so.

But they will not change all the lines at once. This time, and quite a long time. With the new connector only Sens, and the new Titanium. Upgrade all vehicle classes - 5 year plan.

We'll see
Peter Push
Masinen, excuse me, I was still tormented by the question, and our stirrers-beaters fit the Titanium Chef, in the pictures their pins are thinner, or it just seems.
Miranda
Peter Push, our whisks / stirrers have a round pin.
The new Titaniums are not round.

When we considered the hook we figured it out
Masinen
Miranda,, so Soufleika 511 also comes with it, and it fits in machines with a 4.6 liter bowl.
Those with Chefs are interchangeable stirrers.
Miranda
Masinen, interesting. The hook is not round but the soufflake is round and both options work. Then there is some kind of super nest.
Twig
Mirandaif you buy a new machine with a hex socket, then at least there is an adapter and five jackets, everything will be worn. Albeit through an adapter.
But on the contrary, for some reason they did not come up with an adapter. Pichal, after Sens, I had to sell something. And for some reason, nozzles with a socket of a new sample are much cheaper.
cv-1963
The soufflé nozzle has already been put "in the basket".
And I read about the K-nozzle in the recipe itself, as a recommendation for replacing this nozzle, but probably I did something wrong, or did not adjust the height. Nothing, it's all experience.
Twig
Girls, and we didn't have induction bowls in our off-store?
I went looking for something and did not find any


Added Sunday, Oct 30, 2016 5:13 PM

I have a tragedy
Yesterday Kitchen grunted to the service tomorrow. It's good to have a five-year warranty.
Therefore, the question is, is there a 5-year official warranty for Kenwood, or what? In the documents, I think a year or two is written. And five years when registering on the site. But I've registered, and what? I even attached a scanned receipt. Where is it written about five years?
Miranda
Twig, and there is

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Added Sunday, Oct 30, 2016 5:21 PM

Quote: Twig
Therefore, the question is, is there a 5-year official warranty for Kenwood, or what?

What does it mean - or what?
Do you think they are deceiving us, or what? That the issued (sent by email) certificate is a filkin certificate?

🔗

And where did you apply the scanned receipt?
Was there such a requirement? As far as I remember, there only the serial number had to be written and the date of purchase.
Twig
They did not send me a certificate for soap.
When registering for Kenwood. com just had the function to load the check.
I already forgot my password :)
Miranda
Quote: Twig
When registering for Kenwood. com just had the function to load the check.

Sorry, but you are confusing something.
Or registering the car somewhere else. Or you thought you were registering a car.

There are no home appliances on kenwood.com.
Official site - kenwoodworld.com then choose Russia.

There on the main page there is about the premium service, if you click, then there will be what I gave the link above.

The name, serial number, date of purchase are indicated there.
All. Send a certificate to the email in tech. 1-2 minutes. It says that it is valid when presented along with the check. That is, the check will be asked only when you apply (God forbid) with this certificate.

Perhaps a couple of years ago (I don't know when you bought the car) it was required to upload a scanned receipt. But in the past and this year it was not required 100%.

PS I'm sorry about Kitchen
Why broke down?
Masinen
I forgot to write, the Titanium has a 10-year warranty on the motor.
freska
Hello everybody ))
Masinen, I have a question for you .. Have you bought a new titanium or have you taken pictures in the store?
Masinen
freska, Svetlana, no, I didn't buy it.
I photographed him in the store. At my request, they said that he appeared and you can come and see with your own eyes.
freska
Masinen, thank you so much for the titanium review
I so want to see him live .. touch him and finally make sure that I want exactly him
Peter Push
Quote: Miranda
our whisks / stirrers have a round pin.
The new Titaniums are not round.
Miranda, thank you, my suspicions were justified.
Twig
Quote: Miranda

Twig, and there is

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But this is an ordinary bowl, do I understand correctly? No induction pancake at the bottom.

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