Mirabel
Ilmira, and what pies do you bake in it?
Ilmirushka
Quote: Mirabel
and what pies do you bake in it?
Mirabel, the first thing I tried to bake in Gourmet was, of course, pizza. And then, at my own peril and risk, I made several Ossetian pies. I do not consider myself a first-class cook and I am not, and therefore for me baking pies is almost beyond the realm of possibility. But having such assistants as a bread maker and a Gourmet, I succeed in ALL THIS !!! She made fish pie in it. Once, using the buckwheat left over from lunch, I mixed it with chicken breast, finely chopped and stewed with onions in an ordinary frying pan - a pie with such a filling flew away with a bang. There is a photo, but I have not yet figured out how to show them here
Mirabel
Ilmira, Ossetian pies and khachapuri turned out well for me, for others somehow there was not enough height ..
Ilmirushka
Quote: Mirabel
Ossetian pies and khachapuri turned out pretty well for me, for others somehow there was not enough height ...
Mirabel, I also have one of the pies climbed a little in height, but since the lid has a special backlash, it gave the pie the opportunity to rise, the pie baked perfectly both from below and from above. It is clear that real pastries cannot be baked in Gourmet, for this you still need an oven. And Gourmet and Princesses, of course, for thin pizza.
Jiri
Quote: Elina
Why
because the Princess is more or less sharpened for pizza, I also bake a pie in Zhardiukha, but I don't call it pizza
Elina
Quote: Jiri

because the Princess is more or less sharpened for pizza, I bake a pie in Jardyukha too, but I don't call it pizza
I name it, I don’t name it ... it is from the evil one. What do you mean imprisoned? Can you explain please.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Jiri
because the Princess is more or less sharpened for pizza, I also bake a pie in Zhardiukha, but I don't call it pizza
Jiri, I don’t know how to understand your comment, which means Princess is imprisoned FOR PIZZA, and in Zhardiukh you bake a pie without calling it pizza. And who calls? I understand that your statement is addressed to me, or did I misunderstand? But I also somehow distinguish a pie from a pizza. And actually, how do they differ? Pizza is an open Italian pie with different fillings, in which three ingredients must be mandatory: thin dough, tomato and cheese, the rest - at will and taste
Rituslya
Astilba, and you have not brought a stewpan yet?
Astilba
Quote: Rituslya

Astilba, and you have not brought a stewpan yet?
No, the device is still on the way .. We called yesterday to confirm the order and inform that they were sending to our city ..
Jiri
Quote: Ilmirushka
I do not know how to understand your comment, what does the Princess mean under PIZZA,
Ilmira, the forum has topics dedicated to pizza makers, it's too lazy to just duplicate all this here, read what the girls write on this topic
Ilmirushka
Don't duplicate. I’m not stupid ... I read it ... I don’t understand at all, what did you want to show now, to prove that the Gourmet is a bad stewpan and should not make pizza in it? IT WORKS! Which Pizza Baking Princess is better? No, not better. All the best
Jiri
Quote: Ilmirushka
Which Pizza Baking Princess is better? No, not better.
Do you have a Princess too?
valushka-s
Quote: Jiri

Ilmira, there are topics on the forum dedicated to pizza makers, too lazy to just duplicate all this here, read what the girls write on this topic

Quote: Jiri

Do you have a Princess too?

Irish, you won't convince the girl! She does not have both gadgets and manages to compare them
This stewpan is a copy of Jardeko and is no better, and maybe (I don't have it) no worse.
Height-depth is measured in a strange way. In these casseroles, the upper part seems to overlap, and not in the butt, as it was done in Princesses.

And the boasting looks strange, more like hidden advertising.
Let's wait for what other users of this stewpan tell us
I'm curious about the coverage, we'll see over time
I liked Jardyusha, but here is the Irish coating, and I would not bake pizza in such a shallow saucepan.
Jiri
Quote: valushka-s
I liked Jardyusha, but here is the Irish coating, and I would not bake pizza in such a shallow saucepan.
Valyush, I tried to bake a pizza in a zhardeyka, and on mode 3, it still floated in my own juice, and safely put out in it. The coating does not seem to peel off, but the upper pan is slightly bent
Masinen
Quote: Mirabel
Princesses, of course, for thin pizza

No, Princess is for thick pizza, but for thin, real pizza you need an oven with a stone and a temperature of up to 400g, which neither Princess nor Jardeko give out.
I, too, did not like Zhardeko's coating, it sucks, the build quality sucks, everything crumbles, BUT, it fried perfectly, I used it while I had the opportunity.

The princess has a very cool coating and a good pizza.
But I didn't bake pizza in Zhardeko.
Astilba
I have now looked through a lot of Chinese sales, but I have never met a light ceramic coating on similar devices. Maybe ARC manufacturers have portrayed something new?
Mirabel
Quote: Ilmirushka
which is better to buy more expensive, but better
Nuuu you are so vain ... The princess is not worse at all, she is just different.
Astilba
My Zhardeko weighs 3.020 kg. together with the wire ..
Ilmirushka, did you also weigh with the wire?
Ilmirushka
Quote: Astilba
weighed together with the wire?
Yes, together with the wire, it does not turn off, which is not very convenient. I am interested in one more question, but writing in a personal message is not very convenient. Tatyana Makarenko in a descriptive video about Zhardeko spoke about the plastic of a saucepan, which is very similar to metal. My Gourmet has good plastic, but "plastic". Zhardeko from what all the same?
Rituslya
Ilmirushka, everything will be fine, .. Do not be angry. We are all different, therefore we are all together.
Write, tell, share!
God bless you and your children!
Your opinions and feedback are very helpful. True! Sincerely!
Astilba
Quote: Ilmirushka

Yes, together with the wire, it does not turn off, which is not very convenient. I am interested in one more question, but writing in a personal message is not very convenient. Tatyana Makarenko in a descriptive video about Zhardeko spoke about the plastic of a saucepan, which is very similar to metal. My Gourmet has good plastic, but "plastic". Zhardeko from what all the same?
Most likely, Gourmet has exactly the same plastic as Jardeko. One factory makes blanks in China, like many different devices have a similar history, only then they are supplemented by various designs and prices, depending on the brand's popularity.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Astilba
Most likely, Gourmet has exactly the same plastic as Jardeko. One factory makes blanks in China, like many different devices have a similar history, only then they are supplemented by various designs and prices, depending on the brand's popularity.
I think so too. They gave a different name, added a red model to the white model. But the cover is really different, at least outwardly it is definitely different. My first impression: it is pleasant to the touch, fingers glide over it a little, as if the coating is washed of grease, but not completely. Although absolutely clean and dry. No need to wash, I wipe it with a napkin, everything is as in the video. Well, so far I like it very much, the main thing is that in a year it does not peel off



Added on Friday 27 May 2016 11:19 pm

Quote: Rituslya
Do not be angry. We are all different, therefore we are all together.
Write, tell, share!
Thanks, Rita. I wasn’t angry. I was just surprised by such a negative reaction, like “we all know everything here, and you’re here HTO and, in general, what is it about? It is clear that the forum is large, long-term communication, many are familiar with each other and are friends. There are leaders and authorities. some kind of newbie ...and even with a new frying pan
Rituslya
In general, I also want such a saucepan. But with me and in general everything is complicated, so there is no way with me. I'm looking for an ideal everywhere. : girl_in_dreams: I can't find it and I suffer.
Therefore, devuli, tell us, please.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Rituslya
I'm looking for an ideal everywhere
Wow - I also suffer from this
Astilba
And in any case, I needed to buy a new frying pan like Zhardeko.It is absolutely irreplaceable for me in the country, where there is always no time to bother with special cooking and beauty and it is very important to have a temperature regime and a timer.
I also really like the Princess and Travola, but I mostly use them for baking. And Zhardeko is a universal appliance, I cooked and baked in it in full until the coating finally fell off ..
Ilmirushka
Quote: Astilba
until the coating finally crumbled ..
If you have time, please write from what time of use the coating began to deteriorate and how it happens. I will monitor the coverage in my Gourmet. When the lid darkened for me, I was terribly upset, but they wrote from the site that this was permissible. Outwardly, this does not look very aesthetically pleasing, but it reassures that nothing has changed functionally ... yet
Astilba
Ilmirushka, Zhardeko did not serve me for very long, about a little over a year of intensive work. The strength of the coating can be easily checked, you need to wet a light cloth and wipe its non-stick surface, it will be covered in black crumbs. In the Gourmet, you will probably need to wipe with a dark cloth to see traces of white crumbs ..
Mirabel
And ala Zhardeko served me very little, but everything was fine with the coating, nothing broke off. During cooking, the lid bubbled and crackled and snapped ominously.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Astilba
wipe with a dark cloth to see traces of white chips ..
I rubbed it thoroughly until there was nothing on the cloth. I also use it every day, sometimes I cook two or three dishes in it. I will watch what happens next.



Posted Saturday 28 May 2016 11:47 AM

Quote: Mirabel
went bubbles and crackled ominously.
Vika, this is, of course, stiffness, and bubbles and crackling. I still have this dark circle on the lid ... nothing more, nothing less. I really don't like this circle, but I can't wash it. The manufacturer assures that this is normal and I am most curious how he will behave in a year
Song
And it seems to me that the manufacturer does not initially count on a long service life. AND
I'm not talking about the Gourmet specifically, but about the Princesses, and about Travola, and about Jardeko, etc.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Song *
the manufacturer initially does not expect a long service life
The song, yes, it is not even discussed, it is not just possible, but it is because if everything works for a long, long time, then what will the manufacturer live on?
Astilba
My Stewpan arrived today. I didn't really like the delivery, they sent me an SMS in the morning that a courier would arrive before 18 o'clock today, without preliminary agreements. It's good that I was at home by pure chance.
With Zhardeko, they are very similar in appearance and from above. On the reverse side, the Gourmet has several through holes .. 6 x 2 cm and 4 x 1.5 cm. I didn’t understand yet for what purpose they were made. Gourmet's coating differs from Jardeko, but not too much, it is firmer to the touch, but the pattern is absolutely the same, only of a different color and looks like it shimmers with sparkles. The device heated up instantly and very strongly, although it turned on to a minimum. It unfolds not just like Zhardeko's, you need to make an effort with the Gourmet .. At first I even thought that I had a marriage at all, because I couldn't lift the top cover and pull the protrusions out of the grooves. This mechanism is generally somehow strange, attached separately and made of some kind of dark metal (you can see this in the video clip), I'm afraid it might not have rusted over time. There are several recipes. Made in China by order of ARC, brought from Lipetsk region. Usman. Now I will try .. how to find time ..
mirtatvik
Quote: Ilmirushka

Don't duplicate. Not stupid ... read ...I don’t understand at all what you wanted to show now, to prove that the Gourmet is a bad stewpan and should not make pizza in it? IT DOES IT! Which Pizza Baking Princess is better? No, not better. All the best
The princess bakes pizza smartly)))) I can't say anything about the Gourmet for lack of it.
Ilmirushka
Girls, this is how the lid of my Gourmet darkened at the first use, made a pizza


Added on Tuesday 31 May 2016 08:36 PM

Aaaaa, and my photo ??? It was written that it loaded ...


Added on Tuesday 31 May 2016 08:39 PM

Quote: Astilba
brought from the Lipetsk region. Usman.
Apparently, they have a whole network, they sent me from St.



Added on Tuesday 31 May 2016 08:43 PM

Well, it turned out to upload a photo. Multi-pot Gourmet ARC-AN-3213
mirtatvik
Quote: Ilmirushka

Vika, I don’t argue. Of course, the Princesses are different. When I saw the Princess, I just "got sick" with her. Confused one, that there is no temperature regulator and timer. And the fact that the bottom of the Princess burns a little, I saw it at Tatyana Makarenko, someone else's video came across on YouTube. Someone adapted the oven on a rug, someone picked up a mold. I gave up the Princesses and bought the Gourmet, which, like in Jardeko, has both a thermostat and a timer. And before buying a Gourmet, I looked everywhere for reviews about him, and here too - nowhere else because a new product. On the official website, they also could not explain to me how this coverage behaves in practice (except for video advertising). And I turned out to be one of the first owners of this wonderful frying pan with a new coating. While glad to purchase! My pizza was ready in 12 minutes. I write from the bottom of my heart what and how with this Gourmet, but I have already been credited with hidden advertising! Well, I don't want to know, I won't bother everyone with happiness and new devices
I also use a rug and an additional dish in the Princess, but not because something is burning, but because I love myself very much))) And these little tricks help to reduce the amount of work (even after frying cutlets or cooking some kind of dish you don't need to wash anything in the sauce, just rub it) and free up time for something pleasant)))


Added on Tuesday 31 May 2016 08:50 PM

Quote: Ilmirushka

Yes, and it’s not very pleasant to me to read your embittered attacks ... I understand that I was in vain to register here. I somehow feel superfluous in your friendly company. Happiness to you
This is you in vain. I also recently entered this forum and did not regret it at all. The girls (ladies) helped me a lot with the choice of some kitchen helpers and gave me a lot of good advice, for which I am very grateful to everyone. And the people gathered very friendly)))
Irgata
Quote: valushka-s
So write what you just decided for yourself, from the bulldozer!
the topic has turned into some kind of squabble

Ilmira I bought a unit, decided to share the experience of using, and to her as an enemy of the people - and people who do not have this frying pan

there is where to praise the princess, which we have been doing tirelessly for 2 years

and here is a slightly different device - but in the depths of the top and bottom identical to grass

Quote: Rituslya
Ilmirushka, everything will be fine .. Do not be angry. We are all different, therefore we are all together.
joining Rita
mirtatvik
Quote: valushka-s


Irish, you won't convince the girl! She does not have both gadgets and manages to compare them
This stewpan is a copy of Jardeko and is no better, and maybe (I don't have it) no worse.
Height-depth is measured in a strange way. In these casseroles, the upper part seems to overlap, and not in the butt, as it was done in Princesses.

And the boasting looks strange, more like hidden advertising.
Let's wait for what other users of this stewpan tell us
I'm curious about the coverage, we'll see over time
I liked Jardyusha, but here is the Irish coating, and I wouldn't bake pizza in such a shallow saucepan.
The gourmet also interested me. First of all, by the fact that it unfolds. Of course, it is too small for a saucepan, but it can be found in many different uses. But I have some doubts about the coverage.If the composition contains marble chips, then such a coating MUST be unstable to acids (and in the process of cooking we use a lot of products that give an acidic environment). Therefore, you should wait, read the reviews (and not only on this forum) of the owners of this device. Time will tell )))
Jiri
Quote: Irsha
Ilmira bought a machine, decided to share the experience of using, and to her as an enemy of the people - and people who do not have this frying pan
Irin, well, that's too much
Astilba
Multi-pot Gourmet ARC-AN-3213

Multi-pot Gourmet ARC-AN-3213

Multi-pot Gourmet ARC-AN-3213

Pay attention to the back of the pans. The Red Gourmet has slots, most likely for condensation.

Multi-pot Gourmet ARC-AN-3213
Elina
I also badly understand why those who did not use the Gourmet are unsubscribing in the topic. Reminds of Soviet times: I have not read it myself, but I condemn it. Astilba, I look forward to your impressions.
I know where to read about the beloved princess.
Ilmirushka
Astilba, yes, yes, I noticed that when cooking with the lid closed, a kind of perspiration appears on the outer walls of the stewpan, and sometimes there is steam. Now I saw in the photo and turned my saucepan over and realized that excess moisture comes out precisely through these slots.


Added on Tuesday 31 May 2016 11:30 pm

Quote: Irsha
I decided to share the experience of using, and to her as an enemy of the people - and people who do not have this frying pan
Thank you, Irina
Lud-Mil @
Quote: Ilmirushka
Girls, this is how the lid of my Gourmet darkened at the first use
Ilmira, i.e. the lid has darkened from the inside? At first I realized that the outside of the plastic suffered from heating, if inside, then it is no longer so unpleasant.
And joining the girls, thank you for sharing your experience with us, telling about the new device.
Ilmirushka
Quote: mirtatvik
read reviews (and not only on this forum) of the owners of this gadget. Time will tell )))
Tatyana, for a long time I faced the choice of Gourmet (about which I have not found a single review anywhere!) Or Princesses, which is SO loved by the people, I even ordered it, and the package arrived, but outweighed the timer and temperature controller from the Gourmet. For me, these characteristics are more important than universal love for the Princesses. Having set the desired temperature and time, I am free until the signal for cooking for other, no less pleasant things. Therefore, I chose the Gourmet, not the Princesses, and not because the Princesses are something bad. The princesses are cool, but simpler, that's all. And this is my handsome Gourmet Multi-pot Gourmet ARC-AN-3213



Added Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 00:59

Quote: Lud-Mil @
At first I realized that the outside of the plastic suffered from heating, if inside, then it is no longer so unpleasant.
It was inside that the coating darkened, with the plastic outside everything is fine.
Mirabel
Ilmira, Handsome!
Ilmirushka
First experience, first courses - baked potatoes in bread crumbs Multi-pot Gourmet ARC-AN-3213


Added Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 01:08 AM

Favorite Onion Pie:Multi-pot Gourmet ARC-AN-3213


Added Wednesday, 01 Jun 2016 01:12

The first Ossetian pie. I don’t write recipes because I didn’t turn the pie over according to recipes from you, it rose a little when baking, so the top turned red: Multi-pot Gourmet ARC-AN-3213


Added Wednesday, 01 Jun 2016 01:16

And this is the very first-first pizza "From what was." The dough was not rolled out thinly enough, so the cheese was fried to the lid in two places, a little NOT aesthetically pleasing, but did not affect the taste Multi-pot Gourmet ARC-AN-3213


Added Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 01:29

Quote: Mirabel
Handsome!
Thank you, Vikul, I'm a bastard from him
prubul
Congratulations on your new technique. I love my APC pressure cooker very much, so I wonder how the technique will show itself, maybe your example will inspire us !!!!
Ilmirushka
Quote: prubul
Congratulations on your new technique
Thank you, Elena. I read reviews on cartoon characters on their official website - just delight, but about stewpan ... nothing. They explained the reason - the saucepans are new, they just started selling them. I will test and notify
mirtatvik
Quote: Ilmirushka

Tatyana, for a long time I faced the choice of Gourmet (about which I have not found a single review anywhere!) Or Princesses, which is SO loved by the people, I even ordered it, and the package arrived, but outweighed the timer and temperature controller from the Gourmet.For me, these characteristics are more important than universal love for the Princesses. Having set the desired temperature and time, I am free until the signal for cooking for other, no less pleasant things. Therefore, I chose the Gourmet, not the Princesses, and not because the Princesses are something bad. The princesses are cool, but simpler, that's all. And this is my handsome Gourmet Multi-pot Gourmet ARC-AN-3213



Added Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 00:59
It was inside that the coating darkened, with the plastic outside everything is fine.
Ilmira, and I'm not against the Gourmet. The gourmet is on her own, the Princess is on her own (a gentleman and a girl will always get along in the same kitchen). I myself would like to buy something similar to this stewpan (or maybe himself). It's just that all people are different. You, not having a single review for this device, took a chance and bought ("the courage of the city takes!"), But I can't do that. I first study the essence of the issue, read reviews (both positive and negative) for a particular friend, and then I decide to buy (or not buy) a new kitchen assistant. That is why I will look forward to your feedback (and feedback from other owners) about the operation of the Gourmet. As I noted above, what confuses me the most is the coating of the work surfaces, because it is really very important. You yourself wrote that some problems have already appeared (and I wish you that everything will be limited to this). And there is no need to look for negativity where there is none))) If I can help someone with something when choosing a particular technique, I will always be glad to do it)))
Helen
Interesting...
Ilmirushka
Quote: mirtatvik
without a single review for this gadget, we took a chance and bought
Exactly - I took a chance. After a bunch of reviews on Travola and Princess, well, I really really wanted this frying pan. I thought that the Gourmet shouldn't be worse!

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