fffuntic
Quote: Waist




Added Thursday, 08 September 2016 00:40
My husband came home from work, told him about the problem. He didn't even test anything, he immediately said that the problem was in the "brains" of HP. He said that if there was a problem with the wire, the fuse in the plug would immediately blown.

Today I did not "get" to the Service Manual, I will read it tomorrow.
the fuse would blow if short-circuited, i.e. overload. And if the contact is simply interrupted - there is no overload - it's as if you just pull the plug out of the socket during work. The fuse won't even feel it. If there is a fault somewhere, then the contacts can simply go away without any overload.

If we argue that the machine is turned off by the electronics, then why does she understand this disconnection as temporary, why does it save the program? Theoretically, this can happen if you analyze the circuit and find that it can go away with the effect of a simply broken contact, but not affect memory, but also such a picture can still be if you bought a machine already with a defect in the cord or plug, a defect at the point of attachment of the cord inside the machine, and over time it manifested itself in work.
This is not necessary, but if the problem is in them, then the husband will waste time studying the scheme. You would still persuade him to check all the possibilities.

There are also such thoughts.
Once it turns off on baking, and if an electronic shutdown is triggered, then perhaps an overload protection is triggered, and perhaps such a shutdown does not affect the memory of the machine.
Suppose in reality at some point the ten gets too hot and the sensor detects an increased temperature. But ... then the stove would not turn on again quickly, the ten does not cool down quickly. And yours turns on again quickly. It can be assumed that the sensor has been incorrectly triggered. Is it clean? Didn't you get the flour?
Testing according to the service manual on baked goods with close attention to the sensor suggests itself.

ikom
I would also check the wire first. Not so long ago, the Bosch mixer had very strange problems in operation and sounds. I thought I would have to buy a new one. It turned out to be a banal contact, it works as good as new.
Waist
Hello everyone !
I apologize for the silence. There were a lot of things to do, these days I did not bake bread at all, since there was no time during the day, and of course I did not start putting bread with the problem of disconnection at night. The bread was bought at the store.

Today, towards evening, I still put the bread on and the whole program worked continuously. The stove these days was turned off altogether, we didn’t do anything, there was no time for it. So I still don't know what the problem was / is

I'll watch for a few more days, but now I will disconnect from the network, otherwise I have never disconnected
$ vetLana
Waist, Natasha, maybe it will cost, Stove rested and decided to work normally
entin
Waist, did not even think that this phenomenon applies to x \ n. I ran into this phenomenon when I bought a fancy Philips TV. As soon as problems with color reproduction and, in general, the image began, it was a signal to disconnect from the network for up to 18 hours.
Therefore, I regularly disconnect most of my home gadgets from the network at night, including a router, a microwave, etc.
If you remember, then Androids, when they do not turn on or are stupidly buggy, require disconnecting the battery for 5-7 seconds.
It turned out that the impulse when the email is turned on again has a very negative effect on the operation of the equipment. energy after turning it off (immediately pull everything out of the sockets) and the spark that occurs when it is turned on. into the outlet, between the outlet contact and the plug.
Waist
Svetlana, I hope that it will cost, we are not at all up to the stove now.A couple of years ago I would have figured it out myself, with or without consequences, but now I don't want to - I'm getting old

Valentine, wow ... interesting. I'll watch my HP, maybe the "lady" really needs to rest
Waist
Until then ...
All the same, my stove is malfunctioning The last time it turned off during baking 5 times

My husband said he will look - he will spin it when he buys a new one for me We still sell 2500 models I want the same

Today I baked bread in a combined way: everything (leveling, kneading, kneading / proving) before baking was in KhP,
and baked (just like that in a bucket from HP, with a spatula inside) - in the oven. It turned out almost what we need, you need to correct it a little over time. While so Honestly, it takes up time during the day I'm already used to putting bread at night
$ vetLana
Quote: Waist
All the same, my stove is malfunctioning Last time during baking it turned off as much as 5 times The husband said he would look - he would spin it when he bought me a new one We still sell 2500 models I want the same
How old is the stove?
Waist
Svetlana, Her husband gave me her 3.5 years ago. She is "young"


Added Thursday 22 Sep 2016 08:31 PM

But I didn't take care of it at all, I exploited it as I needed.

I honestly wanted a new one


$ vetLana
Waistshe felt it
fffuntic
Natasha, quietly steal the devices from your husband and at least test the cord itself and the junction. There may be a completely nonsense reason. I deeply doubt that this is software. Either a contact or a sensor. Something that heats up quickly and cools down quickly.

To catch the sensor - start only baking and watch. It is even possible in service mode.

The stove will start to turn off - slip something cooler closer to the sensor at once and look at the reaction. If the stove turns on immediately, the sensor.

Even if they buy you a new one, two stoves are better than one.


Added Thursday, 22 Sep 2016, 21:30

Ideally, it would be very inexpensive to find a non-working stove somewhere and screw parts from it. Then it would immediately become clear and you would not have to test.
Because poor contact, I think, will be difficult to catch, the malfunction is observed with increased loads on the baking.
Nikitolog
Good day, friends. I am asking you for advice!
In general, my mother used the Panasonic SD-255 HP for a long time and successfully, until a few days ago there was a surge in electricity at their entrance. The stove has fallen into a coma and does not turn on.

Our hands are not for boredom, we will always have time to buy a new one, I decided to first try to disassemble the old one and find out what the problem is. In general, I disassembled, I did not see something like a fuse anywhere, I opened the board and here my knowledge in radio electronics ended)))
In general, one supposedly problematic place was found - some two "tracks" on the board. On the reverse side next to them there is a black wire contact. In the photo, I marked this place in red.
Panasonic Bread Makers Problems and Breakdowns

Who can tell you what burned out and what to do? Throw away or try to repair?
Thanks to all!
$ vetLana
Nikitolog, did not look on youtube, is there a similar problem?
sazalexter
Nikitolog, It is hard to see in the photo, from what I saw, the painted marks with white paint. There is no schematic diagram, there is a diagram on the SD-2501 on the network, but it is different. Part of the circuit https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=445.560 here by checkpoints https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=445.580 If there is little experience in repairing, there are few options, to service, or to buy used parts.
Сw34er45
Tell me for the Panasonic sd253 does not knead in all modes except pitsi what can be done
Mirabel
the question is not entirely on the topic. but did not find one where different types of bread makers are compared
Owners of Panas and non-Panas, please respond and advise! is Panasonic really much better than other bread makers.
I had both budget bread makers and not entirely cheap ones ... now a budget bread maker, it kneads well, bakes normally every other time. The crust is almost never golden brown, but the size of the loaves is smaller than in other bread makers
Now we have a nice promotion for the most pristine Panasonic model, it costs a little more than 100 euros before NG. confused ...maybe you need to seize the moment ...
$ vetLana
Mirabel, I have a Panasonic. When I was choosing, I read reviews about many HP, I started with cheap ones. I realized that the quality of the HB itself is important, so that it bakes without problems, so that the knife does not get stuck in the bread.
Vikato decide on Panasonic, read the topic
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)
Or search for a topic for a specific model, cat. going to buy.
Waist
Quote: Mirabel
Now we have a nice promotion for the most pristine Panasonic model, it costs a little more than 100 euros before NG.
What model?
Mirabel
Panasonic Broodbakmachine SD-2500WXE
Waist, This one. this is probably the simplest model.
Waist
Vika, good model

And she kneads well, and bakes well, and in general she is smart

And just knead the dough, and 3 sizes of bread can be baked
Mirabel
Waist, Natasha, it seems to me that all the bread makers knead well, but far from baking everything is normal, so I think that the time has probably come to replace your antediluvian SilverCrest.
Waist
Quote: Mirabel
SilverCross
What do you mean, this in general does not go to any comparison with Panasonic.

I personally do not even buy SilverCrest equipment, because they all have low rates and the results are appropriate.


If you buy Panasonic, you will understand everything at once.
Mirabel
all! buy means! : friends: Thanks for the advice!
well, the Cross is not so bad .. well, why are you so
Waist
Quote: Mirabel
well, the Cross is not so bad .. well, why are you so
Maybe not bad. I have my own in my head: I prefer to buy one for many years (although I want to do it once and for a lifetime), with the functions I need and the quality I need. I don't like changing things.

Vika, buy, buy a Panasonic! You will not regret!

Although what else can a Panasonic user say and wish It's me about myself
$ vetLana
Quote: Waist
Vika, buy, buy a Panasonic! You will not regret!
And I walk around and around. And Natasha said bluntly about Panasonic.
Natasha,

what can you say about the Severin technique

Waist
SvetlanaI never used Severin
$ vetLana
Waist, I heard that it is very common in Europe. So I decided to ask. I wanted to buy something from this company.
Mirabel
Svetlana, Only in no case should you buy this company vacuum cleaner
$ vetLana
Quote: Mirabel
Svetlana, Only in no case should you buy this firm vacuum cleaner
Mirabel, Vika, thanks.
sazalexter
Quote: $ vetLana
what can you say about the Severin technique
China, the quality is average, I bought a pancake maker, changed it by marriage, the replacement turned out to be workable.
$ vetLana
sazalexter, Thank you.

I looked closely at the vacuumator (now I know that it is bad) and at the mini-oven (I bought a multicooker instead and I am very happy)

Svetlana11111
Svetlana, for such a price, I would not hesitate. I love my bread maker with all my heart, and knead, which I do constantly, and bake when there is no time.
Mirabel
Svetlana11111, and what kind of baker do you mean? Panasonic?
Svetlana11111
Vika, of course. I bought it a year ago, I'm very happy. I started with my mother's old woman JG, which is also a very worthy option, but there was no one on sale. After reading what the girls are talking about, I bought Panasonic.
Mirabel
Svetlana11111, I also decided to buy only Panasonic. From the very beginning 8 years ago it was necessary to buy Panas.
Svetlana11111
Vika, happy shopping, and delicious bread.
Marisha Aleksevna
Quote: Mirabel
I also decided to buy only Panasonic
Vika, do not even hesitate, you will be very pleased. I have a Panasonic 2500 for 5 years and I don't want anything else.
Mirabel
Svetlana11111, MarinaThank you very much girls!
entin
Mirabel, 5 years I bake 2 times a week. Once moaned, washed again, stroked, back to work!
$ vetLana
Quote: entin
stroked,
... You can also say something affectionate.
entin
$ vetLana, yes, yes, yes, how can it be without it. Without this, there is no way ... they will give ... a product ...
Elena Bo
Quote: Сw34er45
Tell me for the Panasonic sd253 does not knead in all modes except pitsi what can be done
In other modes, the kneading does not start immediately, but after 30 minutes in cool weather and after 1 hour in the heat.
MarinaK
I want to buy a Panasonic bread maker to replace the old one. I would like to know, in Panasonic SD-2511WTS or in Panasonic SD-2512WTS what is in the bucket drive: a bearing or a bushing? Because in the old bread maker, there were problems with this (there was a sleeve)
$ vetLana
Quote: Elena Bo
Prompt for the Panasonic sd253 does not knead in all modes except pitsi what can be done In other modes, the kneading does not start immediately, but after 30 minutes in cool weather and after 1 hour in the heat.
At least someone wrote that this is not a breakdown. I was sure that only the service would help
sazalexter
MarinaK, Marina, I will not say in the bucket drive, in the bucket, the sliding bearing is covered with an oil seal of a closed design, in general, the drive and the bucket design, the blade, the blade / drive axis lock are protected by the company's patents, Panasonic does not sell licenses to repeat the design.
MarinaK
sazalexter, Alexander, thanks for the answer. I think I'll order Panas. I haven't found the best replacement yet.
Mirabel
Girls boys! My Panasonic has arrived! : yahoo: so handsome
today I will master it.
But Progy-French didn't find bread ... isn't she?
Waist
Vika, Congratulations! There must be a French program! It is the longest - 6 hours.
Mirabel
Waist, Natasha, thank you! uuuf .. found ... it turns out I am in French, it is called differently
Waist
Quote: Mirabel
it turns out in French it is called differently
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