ser1963
Quote: sazalexter

Having worked out 8 years, after a huge load, HP SD-255 broke down, the bucket drive ADE97A107 collapsed Panasonic Bread Makers Problems and Breakdowns
ordered, I'm waiting for delivery. By the way, the same plastic knot about which they have been selling lately, forgetting to say that the design of the knot has not changed at least since the SD-200, and this has been somewhere since the late 80s. Again, the knot is specially made of carbolite plastic, plays the role of a "foreseen break" unit, should break when overloaded.
Where did you order it?
sazalexter
ser1963, here 🔗
ser1963
Have you already received it? Isn't that a fake? Original? I also looked after them, but they take doubts. My pulley also burst, I gave it to a friend at the plant to pull it off with rings. And so you have to order new ones, but the price tag is crazy. Now think about buying Panasonic
sazalexter
ser1963, Sergei! I bought and installed it, see above in the topic. In this company, all Panasonic spare parts are original. Alternatively, order here 🔗 ... From not original I heard that only scapulae come across.
ser1963
Thank you so much! Calmed down. If it doesn't work with the rings, I'll take them from them.
hope-55
After 4 years of work, the ADE97A107 element, which drives the stirrer in the bucket, fell apart into 3 parts. We ordered a new one on the Internet, received it, installed it ourselves, the bread maker works like new. I am very happy with my bread maker, I really, really missed it when the breakdown occurred.
STEEL56
Exactly the same story, after 5 years of work, the ADE97A107 element, which drives the mixer in the bucket, fell apart. I didn't want to order. I took off the dimensions, took it to the turner and milling machine, made it completely metal. If necessary, I can reset the drawing. Delivered while it works fine. I hope it won't fall apart.
ser1963
Quote: Steel56

Exactly the same story, after 5 years of work, the ADE97A107 element, which drives the mixer in the bucket, fell apart. I didn't want to order. I took off the dimensions, took it to the turner and milling machine, made it completely metal. If necessary, I can reset the drawing. Delivered while it works fine. I hope it won't fall apart.
Please reset. I also burst, but they put a ring around the circumference and still holds it. And also my pulley burst and now they carved it out of duralumin. But this detail must also be carved.

Quote: sazalexter

Replaced the bucket drive ADE97A107, was surprised by the lack of wear on the bronze-graphite bearings in the ADA25-137 mount and the drive shaft itself. I used Dow Corning Molykote HP-300 grease I could not find better.

Your experience is used for lubrication. I bought it in Omsk. Only it is not very clear about felt, should it be impregnated or how?
sazalexter
Quote: ser1963
Just not very clear about felt
I don’t understand where you found the felt
ser1963
Quote: sazalexter

I don’t understand where you found the felt

around the top of the graphite sleeve
sazalexter
Sergey, I have no felt washer in SD255, there are 2 metal ones. From experience, if there is a felt washer, it serves to retain oil, just like a porous bronze-graphite bearing.
ser1963
Quote: sazalexter

Sergey, I don't have a felt washer in SD255, there are 2 metal ones. From experience, if there is a felt washer, it serves to retain oil, just like a porous bronze-graphite bearing.

I have 2502 and there is. So it should be lubricated? I lubricated the stem and applied a little on this washer, I don't see what to lubricate anymore.
sazalexter
Quote: ser1963
I lubricated my stock and applied to this washer
This is quite enough.
ser1963
Quote: sazalexter
This is quite enough.

Thank you
sazalexter
I would not advise sharpening the ADE97A107 from metal, this unit, as often happens in household kitchen appliances, plays the role of a foreseen breakage unit, so that when the bucket gets jammed, the engine does not burn out and does not lead to more sad consequences. In HP Panasonic there is no slipping clutch, and the V-belt drive has a high degree of adhesion.
ser1963
Quote: sazalexter

I would not recommend sharpening the ADE97A107 from metal, this unit, as is often the case in household kitchen appliances, plays the role of a foreseen breakage unit, so that when the bucket gets jammed, the engine does not burn out and does not lead to more sad consequences. In HP Panasonic there is no slipping clutch, and the V-belt drive has a high degree of adhesion.

But frequent breakdowns will be very expensive, I have served for 3 years and we began to knead the dumplings well 4 times and such a disaster. Here you have to choose.
sazalexter
Sergei here must look for the cause of the breakdown, then treat the consequence. Frequent breakdown of the drive unit cannot be, this is a rare case, as I said above, I have worked for 8 years, having gone through one bucket change.
ser1963
Quote: sazalexter

Sergei here must look for the cause of the breakdown, then treat the consequence. Frequent breakdown of the drive unit cannot be, this is a rare case, as I said above, I have worked for 8 years, having gone through one bucket change.

As you can see, the quality of the products is getting worse. You have 8 years, I have 3, despite the fact that I followed the correct recipe, tried not to overload it
Wit
Sergei is right! This trend is shouted at all corners and from all boxes. "Quality is lower, prices are higher" - this is the current motto of the bourgeoisie. Otherwise, you will have to fire workers.
26region
Hello. I have a Panasonic sd-zb2502 bread machine. and such a question. after baking bread and the next day I wanted to put a new one. began to start the program, it is indicated that the oven has not cooled down (u50). but it didn't even work.
Wit
Hello Vera! Your stove is turned off from the socket and you have checked it. So, before calling the service center and voicing the problem, try turning it on again. Such glitches sometimes occur with other devices with electronic brains. If the display again shows that the stove has not cooled down, take it to the service center.
Let's wait for someone else to answer. Maybe someone also had such a case.
26region
I wanted someone to help. because she's already in service. or such masters. but they cannot find a reason.
Wit
Let's wait then for Sasha. I wrote to him in a personal message. If this is not a thermal sensor weird, then the stove's brains are covered and you will have to change the entire board. Let's wait until tomorrow
26region
if the fee, then it's probably expensive
Wit
yes, but let's not think about the bad for now.




Vera, I came across something here on your problem. I'll look while Sasha shows up. There is a thermistor in the thermal sensor circuit, which controls it, as it were. If it is covered, then it costs a penny to replace it. I'll try to find this topic.




SOS! turning on cold PANASONIC SD-ZB2502BTS-gives out "U-50 (Overheating) # 1
Read here. I read it too.
sazalexter
26region, It is really possible to check only by replacement, it is similar to a thermal sensor, but there is a possibility that the electronics unit is also.
Sensor No. ADA11E165 🔗
26region
But the truth is that only their parts go to Panasonic and nothing else. so say the masters.
Wit
The sensor costs 1950 rubles: I found it by Sasha's link
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sazalexter
26region.Only original parts




Wit, Vitaly in SD-ZB2502B sensor is different! ADA11E165 🔗
I'm not sure if the ADA11E166 will work!
26region
I have another problem. mica gasket burned out in the microwave. can I use the microwave without it?
sazalexter
26regionYou can, but be careful, it is needed so that water and fat do not get on the magnetron. Here you can buy mica on the radio market, cut it to size and put it yourself.
ser1963
Hello everyone! All the same, I ordered an ADE97A107 bucket drive on Orbis, it cost 1650 rubles to be delivered. The ring that they cut for me is weakened and I decided to order a new one. Came to Omsk in a week. I still don’t dare to knead the dough. And the pulley made of duralumin works fine. Something like this
Wit
sazalexter, Sasha, but the sensor itself can be checked for operability before changing it. Somewhere in the repair manual I met this.
sazalexter
Wit, Vitaly, can be checked with an ohmmeter, slightly heating or cooling with freon and measuring the resistance.
Wit
Here I am about it. Vera writes that there are still masters there! Thank you, Sasha!
26region
Hello. I want to inform you that the master found the cause of the breakdown.They said that the controller was burned out and it is very difficult to get it. so they said to take the stove home without repair. is it really hard to find?




I don’t know what to do only the warranty ran out after purchase I'm in a panic.
Wit
Vera, do you have only one repair shop? I am confused by their "diagnosis". I turned to the first Panasonic HP repair shop I came across. Such a conversation took place

Me: Hello! What controller is needed for Panasonic SD-ZB2502B bread maker?
M: Unfortunately, there is no such spare part in stock.
We can't order now either.
17:06
Me: What is it called? I mean, its designation ...
M: we do not give information about partner numbers ...
17:07
Me: the control board and the controller are the same? Or an electronic module?
I don't need your partner numbers. I want to know - is there such a knot in this bread farm or they hang noodles for me
17:09
M: apparently it means an electronic module
need to check with those who called it that
17:10



I am alarmed by such answers. I've been here for years and have never heard of a burned-out controller. Let's wait for Sasha. I wrote to him. Do not panic!
26region
the master said that where the thermal sensor short-circuited and punched the controller
sazalexter
Quote: 26region
the master said that where the temperature sensor was short-circuited and the controller struck
I am plagued by vague doubts about this diagnosis, try to contact another service. List of authorized services
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Control board A, no. ADR30K165 🔗
a microcontroller is installed on it. Control board B # ADR31E165 🔗 the power unit of HP is located on it
Waist
Quote: sazalexter
Control board B No. ADR31E165 it contains the power section of the HP
The thermal sensor is located just behind PCB B, and is connected to PCB B (according to the service manual). Logically, then, the damage is precisely on this board, if you believe the diagnosis that the Vera stove was given in the service.

I wonder how much PCB B costs without installation?
sazalexter
Waist, The temperature sensor is connected to B and the processor, which, as they say, is dead, is on board A. Control board B No. ADR31E165 costs 5670 rubles. Board A No. ADR30K165 costs 4170 rubles. It seems to me that there are simply no boards in the service for checking by the replacement method, so they got rid of them saying that the percent was dead. From experience I will say that Panasonic controllers, if their production rarely die, is rather an exception. Alas, I do not have a schematic diagram for this HP, one could say something more specific.
Waist
Quote: sazalexter
Control board B No. ADR31E165 costs 5670 rubles
Add a little and it will be equal to the price of a new stove Now I have completely calmed down with the repair of my old 2500
Thanks for the numbers

Wit
Natalia, there is no fee, there is a fee. It is expensive, 5 thousand, or even more




I was late, Sasha had already answered.




And I would advise Vera to contact the OZPP for help in carrying out the examination. To do this, these servicemen require a written refusal to repair, indicating the reason for the refusal. They will have a "controller" up to their ears! For deception, you can collect money and buy a new stove on them or repair this one. And the claim in the OZPP will help to draw up correctly.
sazalexter
Wit, Vitaliy, OZPP will not help, this is not a warranty case. They only carried out diagnostics, as a fact, there was no repair, they could be mistaken, no one will prove otherwise. In this situation, you need to look for another service, the list of which I gave above.
Wit
Yes, I forgot that the case is not guaranteed. Sasha, you're right - you just need to look for other masters
26region
Yes, of course, after such a diagnosis, it is expensive to repair. will have to buy another. an expensive company, maybe someone knows which bread makers of other companies bake bread well.
Wit
Vera, we say that the diagnosis is suspicious. Read carefully what Sasha and I have written. You need to contact other specialists.
26region
we already took it from this master and gave it to another service. have not reported the result yet. even if such a breakdown from what it could occur.
natasha222
Good evening! Two fuses have blown in my stove. An acquaintance changed them successfully. The oven worked, but another problem arose - the bread did not rise, after baking it remains like a brick !! Throw away three loaves of bread! Altai flour - I've been baking it for five years. Fresh yeast. I am shocked - in five years that I have this oven 2501 this is my first puncture with bread !!! Help anyone with what they can

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