Masinen
Elena, I can't find your photos anymore. They are visible only through your profile.
Yes, try to resolve the issue, but I don't think they will repair it, the soonest thing will be an exchange for a new copy,
Zaharra
Masinen“Maria, I, being guided by your parameters, the results of baking, frying, realized that my temperature was clearly lower.
Many thanks for sharing your experience. Therefore, I see that the oven is wonderful. You just need to find the right one.
Today my husband asked sadly: “Maybe you’ll leave her? We have become akin to her! Just think, the view is not beautiful in some products.


Posted Monday 13 Feb 2017 10:11 AM

Maria, this option was suggested to me by a familiar seller from another home appliance store. I thought it was possible


Posted Monday 13 Feb 2017 10:12 AM

Maria, is the bottom ruddy in silicone molds?
Masinen
Quote: Zaharra
Maria, is the bottom ruddy in silicone molds?
I didn't bake cupcakes in silicone, I can only try to bake a curd casserole and see how it comes out.
I have American, curly and aluminum molds for cupcakes. they get a uniform color over the entire area.

Quote: Zaharra
Today my husband asked sadly: “Maybe you’ll leave her? We have become akin to her! Just think, the view is not beautiful in some products.
Yeah, only if you can convince yourself that way))
no, it's better to change)
Zaharra
Yeah, I trained on cottage cheese in silicone


Posted Monday 13 Feb 2017 10:57 AM

Masinen, Maria, I'll try to bake at Nordic Ware too. I only have small ones, like, roses, no. I'll bake one of the ,, quartet ,,


Added on Monday 13 Feb 2017 5:02 PM

Well, that's what happened to me. Part of one batch was baked in silicone molds each 6.5 cm in diameter, the other - in one part of the Nordic "quartet" mold. Term. 180 degrees, top-bottom mode. Grill, lower level.
Silicone checked in 20min - ready. Ver and bottom are equally pale - golden. I tried to redden for 10 minutes on the "bottom" mode. Slightly. Just dried up.
In Nordic in 30 minutes are ready, the top is the same slightly golden. But the bottom is beautiful brown, dark gold. Moreover, the cake turned out with a clearly defined dividing line between light and dark. As if painted.
Interestingly, when I baked at 190, it was the other way around. In Nordic, the entire cake is of the same uniform color - brown, and in silicone the top is dark, the bottom is contrasting white.
I have a bunch of beautiful silicone manna molds, casseroles and any kind of flip pies. And then it turns out they will not work. A normal, albeit mini-oven should bake equally well in all forms. I think so.
I wonder how others do it in silicone?
JoliK
Quote: Zaharra
Olga, and if you bake cupcakes, in silicone or other forms, the color of the top and bottom is the same in the top + bottom mode?
in general, I tried) the top and bottom blush the same way.
BUT!!!! Girls, because of what the baking can not rise? in particular, I tried to bake cupcakes and muffins, they are also put into the mold by 2/3 with the expectation that they should rise a little ... Is it the temperature? or something might be wrong with the test? did everything according to the recipe
Quote: MSU
In Temka somewhere this problem was discussed, and they came to the conclusion that the difference between the degrees of the thermometer and the degrees set in the stove is approximately equal to 30.It is on this difference that I, for example, am guided.
I decided to experiment on one batch of cupcakes: I turned it on by 30 more, the pastries burned a bit .... I didn't have to. But now I know
While the minus is in the stove for me, there is no more accurate temperature calibration. That is, it goes 90 ... 120 ... 170 ... 210 ... 230)) And I would be more precise. For example, how is the timer graduation set there
I don’t want to take it, just set the temperature correctly

PS:
Unfortunately I didn't have time to take a photo of the cupcakes yesterday. And there was zero aesthetics in my baking
Rituslya
JoliK, Olga, I almost immediately bought a thermometer with the stove and made some measurements for myself
Quote: Rituslya
Judging by his testimony, where
230 degrees-in my oven 205
210 degrees-in the oven 180
about 220 degrees - in the oven 190
In 20 minutes it cooled down from 190 degrees to 100.
I am still guided by this. I even copied it in a notebook so that it was always at hand.



Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 08:33

I want to pick up a baking sheet, otherwise I have something wrong.
Zaharra
Hostess, thank you. If the bottom is beautiful in silicone, even with deviations of 30 degrees, then how many deviations should I have in degrees ?! Probably 50.
I, too, lack a scale with uniform divisions, as in a timer. Here, in another topic, there was a good idea to measure with a thermometer and make the missing markings ourselves .. You can, for example, first with a pencil, double-check, and then a toothpick in nail polish and mark points. Can anyone have other ideas?

Girls! Please advise a quality, accurate, inexpensive oven thermometer. And so that the dial scale is clearly visible and does not melt over time. And then there are manufacturers who are funny. On a scale up to 2 5 0 degrees, and in the instructions they write up to 210 only. Those who have not read or forgotten this receive a surprise and a bunch of "wonderful" wishes for the performers: the numbers on the scale melt and the paint flows down.


Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 20:52

JoliK, I have met recommendations in general to put muffins (are these cupcakes?) in a cold oven so that the top is even. This is if they are then smeared with jam, jam, and on top with cream from condit bags, for example, decorate. Here the "slide" of the product will only interfere.
It turns out that you put, in fact, into a cold oven, according to cupcake concepts of heat. The bizet dome is just right for them.
JoliK
Rituslya, and what kind of thermometer do you have?
Quote: Zaharra
Girls! Please advise a quality, accurate, inexpensive oven thermometer. And so that the dial scale is clearly visible and does not melt over time. And then there are manufacturers who are funny. On a scale up to 2 5 0 degrees, and in the instructions they write up to 210 only. Those who have not read or forgotten this receive a surprise and a bunch of "wonderful" wishes for the performers: the numbers on the scale melt and the paint flows down.
Well, I have one, it is up to 300, and in the instructions it is written above 210 do not use and generally in the gas bottom)))) and I put it in the gas stove, maybe I took something to him)
Today I watched him))))) He drives the arrow from 150 to 220 there, how can a thermometer behave in the oven? Top / bottom program worked
I'll go read Temko about thermometers
and my muffins came out good today, I just put them on the temperature required by the recipe
Marpl
Shteba is an excellent stove. You just need to get used to it and decide what degree of browning you like. When I bought it, I was also guided by Maria's recipes. I prepared the baguettes and realized that I needed to set the temperature lower, not 230-210 degrees. I bake top-bottom without convection, and the temperature is between 170-210 degrees, a little closer to 170 and everything bakes perfectly in 20-25 minutes. And today she baked cupcakes in a silicone form, and the dough was like a manna. It turned out to be excellent muffins, evenly browned at the middle setting.By the way, in the subway they now sell a dough dispenser for only 299 rubles, it is very convenient to use, poured the dough into the dispenser, placed it over the mold, pressed the handle - the required amount of dough was poured, let go of the handle and to the next mold, until all the dough was pour it out. Everything turns out much faster, and most importantly there are no drops of dough, which then burn and must be washed. I recommend everyone who uses molds to purchase a dispenser. Also in the metro they sell a culinary thermometer, but it is up to 120 degrees for 299 rubles. I read above that the bottom of the pastry does not brown. I also did it once, but it was my own fault. Just before baking the bread, I made a casserole in a glass baking dish (bottom potato-fish-onion-mayonnaise) and so as not to stain the bottom of the stove during cooking, I put my native black one with sides on the lower level, covering it with foil. After cooking the casserole, I put the bread to bake, so it had an unbroken bottom. Usually I bake on a grate (my native black is outside the stove next to it), and there are already silicone molds on it. Everything bakes and browns perfectly.
Mini ovens Steba KB28 / KB 28 ECO Line

Mini ovens Steba KB28 / KB 28 ECO Line

Mini ovens Steba KB28 / KB 28 ECO Line
j @ ne
Marina, I look at your thermometer from the photo, it seems that this is a temperature probe for measuring the temperature inside the product, in it the declared temperature is enough "for the eyes". For example, when baking bread, the temperature inside the loaf reaches 96-98 degrees - it's time to take it out, everything is baked!
Marpl
I do not argue, maybe a thermometer, but the label says a culinary thermometer. A similar one comes with Tescom's ham maker.
Zaharra
Marpl, you have a beautiful blush on the cupcakes. And the shape is interesting for them. I have to look for one myself. Otherwise my metal is 40 cm long. I have silicone on the grill with a top like yours, they are twice as light.
What dimensions does this form have? Does it hold its shape, is it tough enough, thick?


Added Wednesday 15 Feb 2017 08:40 PM

JoliK, I probably ordered the same today, up to 300 degrees with blame and red temperature emission. Didn't know that it can only be used up to 210. The site did not indicate. Why then scale up to 300? I will also go to the topic about thermometers


Added Wednesday 15 Feb 2017 8:57 PM

j @ ne, if the bread needs ruddy, crispy crust on the sides, then the temperature can be up to 130 (or 150), instead of 98. - this is today on some website in the table for determining readiness by temperature I saw
Marpl
I ordered silicone molds for cupcakes on silikonmold point ru. My form is 33x25x3 in size, it cost 399 rubles. The shape of 8 pieces of pie is also 399 rubles. (And the German min cost is 645 rubles) Silicone is the same thickness as in German. There are also cheap silicone molds on my-shop dot ru. Flower-seven-flower molds -250 rubles, similar chamomile -285 rubles, I portioned (8 pieces) German 645 rubles.
Masinen
And I will come to you with a pie


Curd Pie (Thermomix, Steba 28Eco) (Masinen)

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Oktyabrinka
it turned out to buy me such a Steba KB 28 ECO Line mini-oven on ozone for 7300 with delivery. I like everything, only the temperature does not pick up the declared one, it is 30 degrees less, the door somehow opens tightly and yet not only is it warm from above, but the sides are very warm. But I think such jambs are not very essential, all their functions are performed normally, the main thing is that bread bakes well.
Natusya
Masinen, Mashul, I have a thin strip of pork ribs, what is the best way to bake and grill (t *, time)?


Added Monday 20 Feb 2017 08:28 PM

In order not to dry out. Or is it better in a protvishka?
Masinen
Natusya, wrap in foil and at the maximum temperature, and then open and so that they are baked.
Rituslya
I'm already confused about the topic in which I have a stove. Let it be in this one.
I bought a mold for baguettes in Metro. Speckle. Great. IN piecewise. It turned out at a maximum of 30 minutes. We must try to reduce the time.
Mini ovens Steba KB28 / KB 28 ECO Line
Rottis
Rituslya, please tell me the dimensions of this form
Masinen
Quote: Masinen

Smile, Katya, what bread !!!!!
And I bought today in Metro a silicone mold for baguettes for three pieces.
And she got into Shteba's stove!
Mini ovens Steba KB28 / KB 28 ECO Line
Mini ovens Steba KB28 / KB 28 ECO Line
Mini ovens Steba KB28 / KB 28 ECO Line

Maybe someone will need the information))
price 750r
Here are the dimensions of the form.
Rottis
thanks, Masha
just today was in the Metro ...
I didn't notice anything like that ...
Rituslya
Well, that's about the size Maria said.
I want to try it in the oven. It seemed to me that the crust was painfully dense in 30 minutes.
j @ ne
Rituslyais it for 230, all 30 minutes? What level did you choose? I'm at 230 degrees. I only bake a ciabatta for the first 10 minutes, then I start to "sunbathe" somehow quickly, with both top and bottom. And the crust, maybe, only at first it seems dense, it will stand, cool down - and is already soft?
And this form is cool, it's a pity the Metro won't bring us to us.
Rituslya
j @ ne, Zhenya, yes, at 230 degrees for about 30 minutes. Level? Probably the lowest one. I really liked the shape itself, the bottom is so deliciously pimpled in the bread, but the result is not.
The crust was just stiff. If yesterday you could still eat hot, then today I will use the remaining half for crackers. Could this mismatch between temperature and result be due to convection?
In my regime, just top-bottom at the stated 210 after 25 minutes, it starts getting dark well.
I'll try to bake baguettes in the oven. I'll experiment.
JoliK
Girls, tell me how to bake biscuits?
Do not rise from me .... I think maybe the oven is not heating up well?
I put on the declared temperature, wait 10 minutes, then a baking dish ...
Or do you need to warm it up by 230, then lower it to the desired temperature and form the mold in the oven?


Added Thursday, 02 Mar 2017 2:57 PM

I don't look at my thermometer anymore ...
Tos
Dear, please tell me - what weight (maximum), without any special problems, who managed to shave a chicken on this stove on a spit?
Masinen
Olga, bake the biscuit as it is written in the recipe)

Anatoly, I baked chicken on a spit, but I don't remember the weight, but it seems not very big.
Yarik
Anatoly, I baked, but I did it for a long time, weight 1.4 kg, it took 2.5 hours, it seems to me easier not on a spit, but on a top-bottom grill, it will come out much faster. But it's in my stove, maybe someone else's.
Masinen
Yaroslavna, it seems to me that here it is necessary to bake a chicken 1 kg 100 g, no more)
Yarik
Maria, it was the smallest, my husband ran around several shops, I already thought she would knock me, said take this
Oktyabrinka
I bought a baking sheet for my stem with ozone. deep 4cm, very comfortable, fits the width of the stove into the guides. it is convenient to put it in the refrigerator later, there is a lid. Now I'm waiting, maybe there will be shares again, I'll buy another one.

🔗

Marpl
Does the pallet hold itself in the grooves or should it be placed on the grate? Also looking for a tray for the stove.
Oktyabrinka
Marina, simply inserted into the grooves, the grating is not needed, I put it in the middle grooves, I don't know how the coating will last for a long time, but so far I'm very happy
Marpl
Excellent, so we must take it.
Rituslya
I began to bake small portioned Easter cakes, relying on the stove, it smelled like that. Here mlyn ...
Everything fell from above. I urgently put it in the oven.
Straight ah ... Looks like not baking Easter cakes, there is not enough space.
Masinen
Rita, Ritual, high will rest against the ten, or it is necessary to put between the ten, then they will not burn. I baked little ones in it, you know, there are small molds or that follow the small ones.
Natusya
Quote: Masinen

Rita, Ritual, high will rest against the ten, or it is necessary to put between the ten, then they will not burn. I baked little ones in it, you know, there are small molds or that follow the small ones.
Mashul, didn’t you bake in ceramic shteba?
Masinen
Natusya, nope, but you can bake, the main thing is to lubricate with non-stick grease)
MSU
Please help me with advice: is it possible to upset the dough in Stebe? In a hurry, I can't find information about the minimum temperature - I need to save the dough from a cold night dough, it didn't fit at all, only hope for detuning ...
Rituslya
MSU, Svetlan, that's what I'm doing now. Warmed up a little, turned it off. I put Easter cakes in the warm one. Good, yes.
Mashul, I also need to look for mask-molds, otherwise my bread is burning, and then Easter cakes.
MSU
Rita, thanks! And at what temperature did you warm up and how long (approximately)?

... In general, I warmed up for 5 minutes at 90 degrees, aired a little and stuffed the cakes. The dough is awesome, but not suitable ...
Gala
Girls, I join you. I bought a 28 Eco stove.
I turned on the empty one for the first time, for interest I put a thermometer inside to see how the temperature rises during the heating process. At the end of heating, the set temperature corresponded to the temperature shown by the thermometer. This makes me happy. We will master a new unit. I went to read the topic and take into account your experience.
Masinen
Gala, Galya, congratulations on your purchase !!
Come on, please us with your beautiful recipes!
MSU
Gala, also congratulations on your purchase!
You're in luck with your temperature. I finally managed to shove a thermometer into the Headquarters, and my difference is 30 degrees (on convection), but this does not bother me
Rottis
Galina, I join in the congratulations

I didn't even think about it coincides - does not match ...

The stove bakes beautifully, why is there something to measure ...

or, too, measure once everything is measured
Yarik
Galina, I also join in congratulations! She's really cool. Here is the technique to which the soul lies right away)))
Gala
Girls, thanks for the congratulations!
Quote: Yarik

She's really cool.
Quote: Rottis

The stove bakes beautifully
This is the main thing.
Cielito lindo
Quote: MSU
me the difference is 30 degrees
Svetlana, and the difference is + or -? Does it show less or more than the preset? I also choose a stove, since it is impossible to adjust the temperature normally in the old gas stove. I was flattered on the mini-oven, primarily due to the fact that everything here can be set to a degree, but it turned out that she was also lying ...
Ljna
Cielito lindo, mine shows less exposed, but does its job well
Gala
Quote: Cielito Lindo

I was flattered on the mini-oven, primarily due to the fact that everything here can be set to a degree, but it turned out that she was also lying ...
In a mechanical mini-oven, it will not be possible to set the temperature to the nearest degree. This requires electronic brains, and this is already other money.
And as Evgenia quite rightly noted, the main thing is that
Quote: Ljna

copes well with its task

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