Air humidifier (discussion and feedback)

I mastered the whole topic (thanks to all the participants in the discussion), now I don't even understand whether I want / need a humidifier or not ...
Maybe someone can tell mewhat are they wearing now what is held in high esteem today? Humidifier? Air cleaning? Or maybe something else was invented?

[Kroshik]

Kroshik, if you decide that you want him, then your Boneko is like this 🔗 I can give it for half the price. I have 3 of them and all on the balcony ...

Humidifier? Air cleaning? Or maybe something else was invented?

Depends on goals and conditions.

Ultrasound (ultrasound, which "shakes" the water and makes fine sprays, which are driven further by the fan) is the most effective, efficient and cheap, but requires demineralized water (osmosis, distillation). Cartridges are garbage and a waste of money, I had dust with Bonekin in a week, and after all, I have an average water supply system, in Moscow it is not the hardest). If there is an osmosis filter at home - definitely an ultrasound, if not - then in the end you will still want to put osmosis. Although, probably, there is some kind of super soft and super mineral water in the tap ...
It is also important - you need to clean well and on time, although everything should be cleaned well and on time, but ultrasound - especially, since it sprays exactly what is in it, including bacteria, salts, dirt. And it is also easy for them to overmoisten if the room is small and completely closed (if there is no automatic hygrostat). It must be found where to put it - the "jet" should not go to furniture, wallpaper, appliances and people. Ideally, it will completely dissipate in the air.

Washing. Natural hydration. The essence of the sheet is on the battery, everything evaporates by itself, but effectively due to the evaporation area (or is it the blades of a "mill" or a fiber of a filter-"sponge". Efficiency decreases with a drop in temperature and / or an increase in humidity in the room. Roughly speaking, if at 25C and 30% it will evaporate 300ml / h, then at 19C and 40% - much less. Plus non-spongy - no consumables and undemanding to water. Whatever is poured into it, only water will evaporate, and all hardness salts will remain in the pan and on evaporating surfaces. They are removed, respectively, like any scale. For sponges - a consumable filter. On average, it is enough for 1 season (autumn-spring), but it all depends. From the filters, scale is also removed, but they die from it If you don’t clean the filters, the efficiency drops. Where to put - all the same. Non-spongy are like an airplane. Spongy - a little cheaper.
Steam humidifier. In my opinion, it has finally gone down in history, you will find figs (but in vain, IMHO). The essence of a double boiler is a boiler. He doesn't care about water and he has no consumables. Cleans like any kettle. Minus - when overturning it will be hot and it is the most energy-intensive of all. Another plus is the most effective, but this means that it is better not to use it without a hygrostat or timer - there will be a bath. You can, if desired, replace with a double boiler (if you need it quickly and for a short time)
Performance is all the more critical, the larger the area of ​​the room, the number of cracks in the windows and the less habit of closing the interior doors (for me, for example, in general, all doors are open in life). The rest is up to you. In a small room with plastic windows, a sink will go well, in a large one with an ever-open window and / or doors - an Uz or a steam engine.

At the same time, do not forget that in addition to humidity, it is very important to keep the temperature as well. If the house is +25, then it is hardly worth making the humidity above 40%. If the house is 20C, then 60% will be relatively comfortable. Whether you need it exactly at home can be found in two ways. one.subjective - if in the morning after sleeping in the nose there is a dry crust and the skin and dry wood peels off, then you obviously lack moisture. 2. buy a thermogyrometer. But keep in mind that they are all scary lies for the most part. + \ - 10% - easily. There are two options. Or believe the numbers and proceed from them, or see paragraph 1.

[Omela]

Omela,
Why are they on your balcony? What didn't you like?

[Antonovka]

Antonovka , already wrote here many times. There is a sink, ultrasonic, and traditional. With Italian radiators and temperature in the apartment + 25 + 27C - effect 0. But the side effects are constant snot-ears, draft, mold, etc. Plus you can't open the window. In general, it did not work out for me .... somehow

With Italian radiators and temperature in the apartment + 25 + 27C

Well, with such a t, they definitely don't need to come out. Although I honestly don't know how Mona can live like this .. I'm already at +23 stuffy and hot. And normally - 19-22. It turns out you have a vicious cycle of hot and humid is worse than humid and dry. Are the radiators really not adjustable? Or is there a need for such tropical numbers?

ps: in a personal it is impossible to throw off in more detail why give it back? it's not that I urgently want it right away, but yesterday we finally cut in a normal filter for ourselves, and now I think that in the nursery I'll change the old natural spongy - I'm tired of buying sponges for him every year, although it works decently in a small room ..

And normally - 19-22. It turns out you have a vicious cycle of hot and humid is worse than humid and dry. Are the radiators really not adjustable?

No, well, 19-22 floors are very cold .. the radiators are not regulated .. I'm afraid to breathe on them at all, because pipes must flow once a season due to pressure drops in city pipes.

ps: in a personal it is impossible to throw off in more detail why give it back?

That soobsenno not that I am going too much. Just standing on the balcony in a box, idle. Purchased in December 2009. Used 5 times. I gave a link to the model at the top. How much money I can’t imagine.

Please tell me a small ultrasound humidifier, who used it! There is a reverse osmosis filter.

Who can say why plaque appears from the humidifier (on the TV screen) and is it harmful?

Plaque appears for the same reason as in a kettle - water contains various salts, the humidifier, together with the water, sprays them into the air and they settle on everything. To avoid this, use filtered water (preferably a reverse osmosis filter) or buy distilled water.

It's the same for me. Dust deposits near the TV and on it appear many times faster than without a humidifier (and this is clearly dust, not salt deposits). The humidifier is at a sufficient distance from the TV. Water is used from the filter (there is no scale in the kettle). There is no salt deposit near the humidifier. It seems that the dust on and around the TV is a little different, sort of finer than usual. How about others? Ultrasonic humidifier.

It's the same for me. Dust deposits near the TV and on it appear many times faster than without a humidifier (and this is clearly dust, not salt deposits). The humidifier is at a sufficient distance from the TV. Water is used from the filter (there is no scale in the kettle). There is no salt deposit near the humidifier. It seems that the dust on and around the TV is a little different, sort of finer than usual. How about others? Ultrasonic humidifier.

what kind of filter is used? Does this use a softening resin cartridge in the humidifier itself?

For ultrasound, just filtration and ion-exchange softening (in which calcium salts are replaced by others, "invisible" in the kettle) are not suitable; it requires just and only demineralization. That is, the withdrawal from the water of everything that is in it to the maximum. That is, osmosis or distillation. Otherwise, the raid was, is and will be. Branded softener cartridges rely heavily on tap water, but are generally not very effective (and cost money at the same time).
"White dust" is a mineral salt deposit from what you have in your water. The water evaporated - the salt remained. It is usually most noticeable on dark plastic and is very fond of household appliances, since it sits on the most electrified surfaces.

Who can say why plaque appears from the humidifier (on the TV screen) and is it harmful?

There is no official confirmation of its danger. All formulations on English-language sites boil down to the fact that "no direct harm to health has been identified, but it is recommended to use demine water to avoid occurrence."

But in the fall, the first real medical article in my memory appeared, describing a case where a six-month-old child with ARVI became much worse when using an ultrasound humidifier. But there the "gifted" parents poured the devil into it and put it almost close to the bed (1.2m), "after a few hours" their room "was filled with a white suspension", and it became more difficult for the child to breathe. At the same time, the parent was told that the distillate was used (which strongly, strongly contradicts logic, since the specific salt-mineral composition was determined in the dust as a result). It is worth taking a note of the case, but at the same time do not forget that the mentioned parents actually violated all possible rules for using the device, starting from incomprehensible water and ending with the distance from the sick child's bed in a closed room.

Please tell me a small ultrasound humidifier, who used it! There is a reverse osmosis filter.

It seemed to me that I answered you. It turned out that it only seemed. There is no particular difference between them, IMHO. Only now all the compacts are rather weak in performance (I have never met more than 300ml / h). If performance is not critical (a small room, plastic windows, closed doors), then feel free to take any design you like and look-feel the plastic for a very frank Chinese. The only thing that I would definitely choose with a hygrostat.

For ultrasound, just filtration and ion-exchange softening (in which calcium salts are replaced by others, "invisible" in the kettle) are not suitable; it requires just and only demineralization. That is, the withdrawal from the water of everything that is in it to the maximum. That is, osmosis or distillation.
All formulations on English-language sites boil down to the fact that "no direct harm to health has been identified, but it is recommended to use demine water to avoid occurrence."

Explain for the "kettle" what osmosis is and where to get the distillate? Is this water demineralization?
I can't afford to buy something expensive. But I also don't want to dance with tambourines around the water.

Explain for the "kettle" what osmosis is and where to get the distillate? Is this water demineralization?
I can't afford to buy something expensive. But I also don't want to dance with tambourines around the water.

Osmosis is a type of filtration system. If the details are interesting - Google will help you. They are not that cheap (although there are relatively inexpensive systems with low performance). Distillate should be sold in car dealerships - as far as I know, it is somehow used by us, well, in general - it is sold, even in hypermarkets, maybe. Another thing is that the cost of a liter comes out to ~ 10 rubles (I did not come across cheaper, possibly more expensive), the average humidifier "eats" from 300 to 500 ml / h. You can calculate the cost of ownership for the season yourself (I don't know exactly your prices and your water consumption), it is very likely that a weak osmosis filter without a tank will cost comparable money or even be cheaper.

No cost at all - it's just dancing, such as freezing or boiling and standing. But all this and a lot of time and efficiency is so-so.

It seemed to me that I answered you. It turned out that it only seemed. There is no particular difference between them, IMHO. Only now all the compacts are rather weak in performance (I have never met more than 300ml / h).If performance is not critical (a small room, plastic windows, closed doors), then feel free to take any design you like and look-feel the plastic for a very frank Chinese. The only thing that I would definitely choose with a hygrostat.

Thanks for the answer. So I did, tomorrow they will bring it, the room is small. There is an air wash in the big one
Air-O-Swiss, there is a decent amount of dirt in the pan, I tell you!

Girls, to NG, the children were promised a humidifier in the room, I went into a lot of them there, I wanted to consult on the forum, here, after all, they won’t advise bad things, but I didn’t find a topic, please, poke my nose

[Humidifier]

Humidifier

Thank you so much.
Yesterday we already bought it, made a gift for the kids.

[vera100865]

Yesterday we already bought it, made a gift for the kids.

vera100865, if not a secret, which one did you choose? I, too, was on fire, but after reading the topic, it cooled down ... Until now, I will go out, then go out ... It seems like I want to and ... in general, I have not decided yet ...

I chose the Venta LW 14 white air washer. ( 🔗) I will explain what I was guided by
Washing, that is, as I understand it, air purification, including from allergens
here is the Air Humidifier, something that we really lack in city apartments.
the third is not unimportant, there are no replaceable filters and cartridges, it just strains me later to look for a replaceable one, and a feeling of shame, so I can't find the children, and there are microbes, etc. well, in this sense,
And it's also 100% Germany. Warranty 120 months, this is not a slip of the tongue, in fact, 10 years are written in the passport and on all sites. There you can still have all sorts of specials. Buy fragrances, soothing, tonic and in my opinion an orange, now I can not find, but if necessary, I will look.
Email it does not take a lot of energy, it works at different speeds, there is a quiet noise, but at night you can hear it a little, like a working processor.
He works for us only the second day, the difference has not yet been felt, special. there is no hydrometer apparatus (it seems). But even the time has passed not enough, while the daughter always opens the window, it is very hot in the apartment, now there is ash on the street and rarely less than 25-26.

used ultrasonic Vitek, stopped working after six months. I took a cheap Supra, also "uz" - it also does not work after two weeks. shocked

Air humidifiers can produce hot and cold steam. Which one is better and safer for indoor use with a child?

Installing a humidifier in your nursery is a very wise decision. By maintaining proper moisture levels, humidifiers can help fight respiratory diseases. Moist air dilutes the secretions of the mucous membranes, they leave without problems and do not interfere with the child's breathing.

In addition, a humidifier is indispensable during the heating season, when the air is extremely dry. Starting in late autumn, you should turn on a humidifier in the apartment even at night, so that crusts do not form in the little child's nose and do not interfere with normal breathing. The only condition: he should not stand very close, so that bed linen and children's furniture do not get wet and do not deteriorate.

Humidifiers with both hot and cold steam are equally effective and do a fairly good job with the task assigned to them - to humidify the air in the room. Recently, pediatricians have been inclined to believe that humidifiers that produce "cold" steam are safer: there is no risk of scalding by accidentally spilled water or steam.

The downside of cold-steam humidifiers is that they essentially create an ideal breeding ground for bacteria and mold. This is due to the fact that the water is not boiled in them. Such humid air with bacteria is especially dangerous for children suffering from asthma or other chronic respiratory diseases.To avoid these side effects of such beneficial moisturizing, you should strictly adhere to the manufacturer's advice on how to care for your humidifier: wash regularly with soap, vinegar, hydrogen peroxide or disinfectant (as indicated in the instructions).

By the way, it is recommended to fill the humidifier with low mineralization water, that is, distilled or filtered, because the minerals will be released into the air and will irritate them when they enter the child's sensitive lungs .--------------- ------ in our apartment it is also hot 25 and above. so which humidifier is right for us? or it is not needed. in the summer it was dry in the morning in the nasopharynx. but not now. or maybe just a wet towel on the battery. and that's enough. we have 1 bedroom apartment. girls advise something ...

[chapic]

in our apartment it is also hot 25 and above. so which humidifier is right for us?

chapic , no. Somewhere in my subject Hairpin gave calculations for temperature and humidity. You can go look. So, in short, the temperature should be 19-20C, so that the humidity can be brought up to the set 40-50%. I already wrote that I had 3 of them (air washing, with cold-hot steam UZ, traditional). I handed everything out. You are tortured to change towels. If you really suffer from dry air, then put temperature regulators on the batteries and then buy an ultrasound humidifier. But keep in mind that it blows quite strongly, that is, it must be placed and directed away from people, it is difficult to do this in a single room. IMHO... Good luck with your choice!

in order to determine whether you need it or not, you first need to purchase a hygrometer, which will show what kind of humidity you have. each room may have a different humidity: for example, in the kitchen it is always higher, since something is often cooked. you can try a towel for less. but only a hygrometer can show the effectiveness of this method.
temperature regulators for the battery are needed, but first of all so that it is not hot. but you need to understand that if you screw on the battery, you will not increase the humidity, it may stop decreasing, or at least it will decrease more slowly, but it will not increase in any way.

battery regulators are not realistic in the near future ..

[vera100865]

vera100865, if not a secret, which one did you choose? I, too, was on fire, but after reading the topic I cooled down ... Until now, I will go out, then go out ... It seems like I want to and ... in general, I have not decided yet ...

the same thing, it seems, and it would be desirable, and pricked, but whether it is really so necessary, doubts take ...

I chose the Venta LW 14 white air washer. ( 🔗)

He works for us only the second day, the difference has not yet been felt, special. there is no hydrometer apparatus (it seems). But even the time has passed not enough, while the daughter always opens the window, it is very hot in the apartment, now there is ash on the street and rarely less than 25-26.

very interesting, is there really less dust? and how does it feel, is it easier to breathe? I felt the effect of the salt lamp the very next day, before ALWAYS waking up in the morning I sneezed several times, but when I bought the lamp the very next day it stopped, I even checked it several times, I won't turn on the lamp - I sneeze in the morning, I turn it on, no now and never turn off. and this is just a lamp, and here, such a system and cleaning and moisturizing, the effect should be felt
in general, keep us informed, please

Somehow I could not think that this topic will touch me. The dryness of the air in the apartment is terrible, nothing helps from handy means. Had to buy a humidifier. The choice of them in stores is not large, I chose from what was. I hope very much for him, that he will ease my torment.

We have had ultrasonic Boneko with cold steam for eight years.
I am very satisfied, especially during the heating season it helps ...
And then the humidity drops to 40%.

We have had ultrasonic Boneko with cold steam for eight years.
I am very satisfied, especially during the heating season it helps ...
And then the humidity drops to 40%.

And I'm not very happy with it - all the walls are white, all the equipment is white. I had to use distilled water against this, because the original filter is expensive, and it does not last long (if at all). Now a fountain has been installed, it has a unique surface system, which, due to its high porosity, absorbs much more water than a smooth surface, and, accordingly, evaporates much more. Now at home there is no problem with dryness, white walls and distilled water. In addition, it greatly decorates the room.

I read good reviews about Boneko, but we don't have them for sale. There are only Viteki and Elektorolux.
This one, too, with ultrasound, with cold and hot steam, for allergy sufferers, for children, and much more were promised in the instructions.
There is a filter in my humidifier, I really hope that there will be no plaque anywhere. Spare filters are on sale, change once a year, price $ 10

These fountains are made by one Estonian company to order. It seems they can deliver. You need to write to them and ask. But they are expensive.

Air humidifiers ... it is recommended to fill the humidifier with low mineralization water, i.e. distilled or filtered, because the minerals will be released into the air and will irritate the sensitive lungs of children.

I would like to hear the scientific rationale for how "minerals are thrown into the air." Very intrigued.

Even before the birth of our daughter, we bought a Boneco Air-O-Swiss 2055D, it purifies the air, humidifies and ionizes, there is a replaceable silver rod to be placed. We are very satisfied, works constantly.

I would like to hear the scientific rationale for how "minerals are thrown into the air." Very intrigued.

I will not say the scientific basis, but the limescale that appears on the walls and furniture during work, apparently, is these very minerals.

[Boneco Air-O-Swiss 2055D]

And here are the reviews on the market:

Boneco Air-O-Swiss 2055D

Terrible model. Experience of use: more than a year
Advantages: For three years of use I did not find it, I keep this supposedly purifier-humidifier in the house only at the request of my husband, it seems to him that it performs its functions (I mean cleaning). Yes, it moisturizes, devices for 1000-1500 rubles do it just as well. The only advantage is that there is no sound signal for the end of the water - it does not wake you up at night.

disadvantages: Everything that all owners have:
1. Noises and gurgles loudly
2 with an indicator, you can go for mushrooms at night,
3. The water tank was developed by a pervert, it is inconvenient in everything: in removing, in pouring water and a special pleasure in washing it.
4.the iron plate came off after the 2nd lock in the decalcifier
5.The water poured from the filter blooms despite the annual change of the silver rod
6.Functions of cleaning and humidification are not separated, i.e. at high humidity, cleaning does not work (wet is not dirty)
7. Washing the unit is a separate song, described in detail by other users before me.

Comment: If you have extra money, give it to charity. This is not a device, but a piece of plastic with an unjustifiably high price and requiring constant complex care, with very poor functionality.

A source: 🔗

I have been using a humidifier for a week, I wrote about the purchase and the model above.
There was a definite opinion. The device itself looks stylish and fits well into the interior. It works almost silently, you don't hear any splashes, gurgling or anything else. Easy to use. There is a positive result from the application, it became much easier to breathe, the dryness in the nose and throat that tormented me, dryness on the face and body disappear. There is also a minus from the use of which users warned. A whitish sediment is debugged on all static objects in the apartment. Despite the presence of a filter in the humidifier itself, which, according to the manufacturer, is designed to prevent the formation of this plaque.
But overall, I am satisfied.

I have exactly this one for 3 years already. Water from the reverse osmosis filter, no plaque. But after the first season (I turn it on only in winter), about the advice of the instructions, I removed the filter completely (the instructions said to replace it, but with this water I simply remove the filters in all devices). Plaque did not appear ... after buying a new TV, plaque began to appear exclusively on it. I bought a filter (Boneko also fits him) - the plaque disappeared on the TV too. This winter I drive with last year's filter, no plaque
It's a pity, but I don't feel the ease of breathing described by many and improvement for dry skin at all. Although I sit with him in the same room almost all day. The humidity was measured with a room hygrometer - from the initial 30 it raises to 35 maximum, we never reach the desired 45, even though it "smokes" constantly and is set to maximum

Maybe your condition was not so deplorable? Excuse me for the details, even my nose hurt, it seemed from dryness that a little more and there would be wounds.
I would like to have even more freshness in the air, because it seems to me that it is still not enough. There is no hygrometer at home, but I can't find something on sale.

Maybe your condition was not so deplorable? Excuse me for the details, even my nose hurt, it seemed from dryness that a little more and there would be wounds.

And I already had wounds. And now it has been a year since I had a humidifier, although only a small WildWind allowed the funds, I turn it on all night, so at least I now sleep normally, otherwise I could not breathe directly, my nose was clogged.
True, a plaque appears on the TV screen and I wipe it off every morning, but this is nonsense, health is more expensive.
I inserted a photo of my humidifier (it has such an interesting backlight in different colors):

And we finally bought it. I wipe the raid from the frames of the monitors, but now we breathe freely in our sleep. Previously, the entire heating season in the morning got up with stuffy noses and a heavy head. Now well.

And we finally bought it.

Which one? Model?
And I thought that only I had problems, that I was suspicious and was winding myself up. It turns out that the problems with humidity are more extensive.

[Flaksia]

Flaksia Unfortunately, this problem affects everyone from the beginning of the heating season, especially concrete houses. Old bricks don't dry the air that way. At work, for example, the state of dryness throughout the body is a year-round problem. Hands and lips dry terribly. So you are not alone and this is not suspiciousness.

We bought ourselves this one:

🔗

it also has an ionizer, so a solid profit

[ERGO HU 3501]

Which one? Model?

Yes, the usual, ultrasonic, with cold steam, from the inexpensive ones we chose, which were in stock from our supplier and ordered (I myself sell equipment).

ERGO HU 3501

So, we bought all ourselves humidifiers on the sly! And don't brag, don't share information.
And the people here stray, in ignorance.

So, we bought all ourselves humidifiers on the sly! And don't brag, don't share information.
And the people here stray, in ignorance.

That I myself thought for a year - good or bad, I was afraid that the walls would bloom with a moisturizer. And then it just got enough, bought and used. And I still do not know whether it is useful or not useful, the main thing is that it is easy to breathe. I turn it on mainly at night, during the day I sit next to it at the computer, work, freeze, all the same, cold steam comes out of it. So I turn it off.

So, we bought all ourselves humidifiers on the sly! And don't brag, don't share information.
And the people here stray, in ignorance.

Share, share I even added a photo of my own humidifier. Before I bought it, I was sure that all humidifiers are VERY expensive, and I can't afford it. But as it turned out, they are for any wallet. At first I was very worried that the plaque appears on the TV, but then I found out that it was not only me, and calmed down

How in the subject ... Like winter - I have a nuna moisturizer.
I've already read about these humidifiers. Now - for a little - buy. But I also pay attention to the function of automatic shutdown in the event that the water runs out and noiselessness plays a role. And the area is more than 30 square meters. Already my head is spinning. Well, the price is not sky-high at all.

We sell only 4 types of humidifier: 2 Electrolux models and 2 Vitek models. So I didn't have to suffer for a long time.
I don't respect Vitek, so I immediately dismissed it. And among the two models, Electrolux chose the cheaper model.

I don't understand what kind of raid everyone is talking about ...
True, our handsome man is in the bedroom, there are no computers, no TVs ...
And the room is used for its intended purpose - we sleep there)))
But I don't see anything like that on furniture either ...