hjunec
Please tell me the names! I'll buy a slow cooker and mulvar, whatever you say! I'm already tired of studying all this !!!
Biryusa
Quote: hjunec
On Ozone, Shteba has a bad review about the stainless steel bowl.
Why did you unconditionally believe the anonymous review? Maybe it's better to go to the topic and ask real users about the quality of the bowl? Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD2 / DD2 XL

hjunec
I asked a question there, I'm waiting for an answer.
And I believed it because I have a light Chinese stainless steel saucepan lying around. He is stainless steel there only shine. And it is really unclear what kind of metal it is. Corrosion immediately covered, some pits, dents. You cannot compare with normal high-quality stainless steel.
UPD They answered there that the stainless steel is good. Everything seems to be OK
Irgata
hjunec, all elections are decided through the wallet - it is our main prohibitor and authorizer

for myself, I decided - the unit is not more expensive than 4000 r, I have only 2 of them, and Filya \ 03 for this price was bought at a discount not the capital from us, prices are higher for everything, the reducer02 was bought quite by accident for a promotion for one and a half thousand, otherwise it would be for complete local I don’t need it

Panasonic - out of competition and 10, and 18, and 101, like me and my mother (85 soon), all bought by me at low prices, then a promotion, then a discount, then points on ozone

slow - I have kenwoods, they are sold in our regional and \ m, it's convenient for me, delivery costs a minimum

Muscovites, in my opinion, should not have any problems with the choice, you have the same concentration of equipment, moreover, of different price categories
hjunec
Thank you! I will go to study.
Is Redusha Redmond? Filya - Phillips?
Jenealis
hjunec, replied to you in the topic. Shteba I have the third slow cooker and the first pressure cooker. Perhaps the most demanded, partly because of the bowl, very comfortable. And of course the cooking speed is beyond praise!
Kara
Quote: Irsha

it is necessary, troubles with her, it is necessary to adapt to her

Irin, I totally disagree with you. True, I only have Shteba in pressure cookers, but she is so intuitive !! Well, what to adapt to it? I threw in the meat, closed the lid, pressed the "Meat" button - EVERYTHING! And so with any product and any program. I opened it, ate it with pleasure, washed the casserole and the lid, and happy and happy
Irgata
Quote: Kara
Well, what to adapt to it?
agree
but for me it's more convenient not to deal with slow pressure
of course - each hostess has her own priorities
OlgaGera
Quote: Natalia

I will probably be the first opponent.
At home: bread maker, yoghurt maker, gas pressure cooker, etc.
And gas is much cheaper than electricity.
The multicooker-pressure cooker was presented last spring. I cooked in it only once. I washed it and put it in a box.
I guess I wanted her to do everything herself: cleaned, cut ...
The amount of work is exactly the same as usual. The old pressure cooker and the usual set of pots and pans are fine.
Hmm. I thought that everything was settled on this topic. But no.
The statement that gas is cheaper than electricity is a myth. I calculated it. The state does not give gifts to anyone.
My head starts to ache in houses with gas stoves, and I'm a sniffer.
It happens that the gift is not appreciated. But in vain. So your time has not come yet. Sell ​​it.
I cleaned it, cut it ... and the washing machine itself changed the linen and the dishwasher took apart the dishes. Empty it
valushka-s
Quote: Irsha

agree
but for me it's more convenient not to deal with slow pressure
of course - each hostess has her own priorities
Irish, and I don't understand why I'm slow. Not adapted.
Russell used 3.5 liters several times, he is cute and let it be, maybe I'll cook something else, I'll adapt, and the big slow one has been standing for a year already (and the warranty will end soon) never used it at all, I hope everything will come in handy for what - anything.
Irlarsen
A slow cooker is considered a useless thing only by those who do not have one. Exactly the same passions are running high about dishwashers. And if you move a little further, then I remember how they explained to me that a washing machine is not needed either
There are only such people who are sooooo difficult to budge. Well, they are so used to it ..... the old fashioned way And then there is some kind of multicooker, buttons. From phrases on the forum like "what are you frying on, on baked goods?" Or "I cooked rice on buckwheat" or "and I stew it on pilaf" and all our local slang their heads start to swell. It's just fear of everything new
OlgaGera
Quote: Irlarsen
It's just fear of everything new
Then let them use candles, torches, kerosene stoves and primus, go on foot, etc.
Irgata
Quote: OlgaGera
The statement that gas is cheaper than electricity is a myth. I calculated it. The state does not give gifts to anyone.

but if you cook on gas, half of the heat flies past the pots, and yes - soot, smell

in multicooker, all the heat is concentrated in a small volume, its loss is minimal, the cartoon does not spend all the declared power = on / off for cooking, and the gas stupidly burns throughout the entire cooking, unless it is turned off periodically - it was like this - in a * peasant worker * there was advice to cook periodically, i.e., it will boil - turn it off - cool down a bit - turn it on
if anyone has the time and desire to cook like this at a lower t and while saving gas - and after all I cooked jellies and broths, but again, you can't leave gas unattended
Kara
Quote: Irlarsen

A slow cooker is considered a useless thing only by those who do not have one. Exactly the same passions are running high about dishwashers. And if you move a little further, then I remember how they explained to me that a washing machine is not needed either

+100500 !! I always wanted a washing machine, but PMM did not inspire me at all, I believed that no machine could wash it like I did with my hands.
And now I can't imagine how I used to live without a dishwasher .. and without cartoons, and without AFK, but I'm generally silent about HP.

I sometimes wonder how to cook without all this economy?

As for gas, I had a gas stove and a gas oven in my old apartment. Everything is electric now. And even if there was gas in the apartment, I would still install an electrician, well, an oven for sure. Soot has already been mentioned above, but it's not even about it.

Baking in an electric oven turns out 100 times better, meringues on gas I do not know how to do it at all, I will not even mention convection, it cannot be compared with gas !!
OlgaGera
Quote: Kara
how to cook without all this economy?
Irina, on an open fire
Kara
Well yes, well yes

Quote: OlgaGera

Then let them use candles, torches, kerosene stoves and primus, go on foot, etc.

Irlarsen
Home appliances have a minus, they are HUGE. In any case, personally with me. Every year it is harder and harder to prove to my family how tired I was at the housekeeping. Little by little, my whole family came to the conclusion that there was nothing for my mother to do. The rumba is vacuumed, the scuba washes the floor, the lunch is made multi, well, everything else: dishwashers, washer, dryer. My insolent - this is something !!!!! His own ham, bread for her, with his own whipped butter. Where's mom? And mom is on the forum !!!!!! On a soft sofa
SvetaI
Oh, if only there were ironing machines - so that they could iron everything themselves - from blouses to duvet covers - and put them in piles, that would be life!
Kara
Quote: Irlarsen

Home appliances have a minus, they are HUGE. In any case, personally with me. Every year it is harder and harder to prove to my family how tired I was at the housekeeping.
Irina, in this case, I suggest that my husband talk to my assistants on his own. For example, stew meat in Shtebe, put French bread in KhP, cook a side dish in a cartoon and sauce with it in Keshka.Naturally, the instructions for all devices have long been and are irretrievably lost.
In a maximum of 5 minutes, my hero crawls up with a guilty face and, stammering, in a pleading tone asks "Forgive the scoundrel for doubts and please cook dinner"
Rarerka
Irlarsen,: lol: there is such a moment
thank God not with loved ones
Irlarsen
Kara this trick does not work for me. The husband proudly says that I will do everything myself without your idiotic bells and whistles. The bottom line? A mountain of burnt pots, ladles, frying pans, a stained stove and HE is proud to the point of impossibility with words, well, you must get out by yourself ..... I COOKED !!!!!!
Natalia
Quote: OlgaGera

Hmm. I thought that everything was settled on this topic. But no.
The statement that gas is cheaper than electricity is a myth. I calculated it. The state does not give gifts to anyone.
My head starts to ache in houses with gas stoves, and I'm a sniffer.
It happens that the gift is not appreciated. But in vain. So your time has not come yet. Sell ​​it.
I cleaned it, cut it ... and the washing machine itself changed the linen and the dishwasher disassembled the dishes. Empty it
You don't need to react so aggressively. This was my personal relationship to the multicooker. I quite agree that you think otherwise. But nowadays, I can easily do without a multicooker. I use a washing machine and a dishwasher and they suit me.
OlgaGera
Quote: Natalia
You don't need to react so aggressively.
It depends on how you read my message. It is completely indifferent.
Quote: Natalia
But nowadays, I can easily do without a multicooker.
and that's your right. Nobody imposes anything on you
Quote: Natalia
I use a washing machine and a dishwasher and they suit me.
So there is progress
Good luck
Irgata
Quote: Natalia
You don't need to react so aggressively.
Natasha, there is no aggression, just a statement his opinions, the topic is question-and-answer, everything is fine

I'll add a little - I've bought my first, 5 liter multicooker exclusively for baking biscuit
sort of like - I'll cook the rest perfectly on gas, and then rice, milk porridge for rice and off we go
each hostess is a hostess in her kitchen, you can only advise, but share your experience
OlgaGera
Irsha, Irina, I, in due time, also bought a fast car. And I thought that I had enough for her eyes. Yeah, schaz .... when I came to the Bread Maker, I got sick with a hamster, and off we go: new HP, multi 3 pieces, skomulti 2 pieces, one slow one, bye, and all sorts of princess, mixer mixers, etc. And .. another syringe for sausage, here
Irgata
my friend works in the store, the hostess herself, not at home all day, very glad now that I persuaded her to go to panasika10, I forgot about dry food, soups, porridges can always be eaten at her dreary job, everything is prepared imperceptibly, lukewarm for a long time

she bought another Panasik, already in a house under construction, here the husband does not gnaw at it, he came to the construction site, laid a simple set of products, he would always eat hot meat with potatoes, and the work was getting on
eye
Quote: Irlarsen
A slow cooker is considered a useless thing only by those who do not have one.
alas, no, everything is individual. we have five years of supra, love has not happened: on weekends there is time to rehabilitate - it is not needed, on weekdays - there is no time to cook, all the more to wait until it happens slowly, therefore, it is not needed either.
everyone chooses a tool that is convenient for themselves. practice - the cretery of truth
Irlarsen
Quote: ok
alas, no, all love did not happen: on weekends there is time to rehabilitate - it is not needed, on weekdays - there is no time to cook, all the more to wait until it happens slowly, therefore, it is not needed either.
Sorry, of course, but from your post it is clearly clear that you did not understand the capabilities of multwark, io just badly approached the choice for your needs. How is it "wait until it happens slowly?" If there is a speed? And the delayed start? I put it in, left, came, and a hot dinner is waiting for you! And about cooking on weekends, I don't understand at all.Do you absolutely need to STAND next to the pot on the stove? Play with the children, go for a walk, sit on the couch in the end, than stand at the stove !!!!
Sometimes I also like to do something with my hands. But cooking is RUTINA! I also wash my favorite blouse with my hands, but the bed linen - thank you !!!! So it is with cartoons. Delicious cake or salad with pleasure. And why do you need daily meat potatoes?
That is, you seem to have a supra, but in fact you don't have it
eye
Quote: Irlarsen
But cooking is RUTINA!
here is the answer to the question! for me - creativity
Quote: Irlarsen
daily potatoes
cook faster in a saucepan
Irina, why argue and, even more so - run over.
I shared my experience on the topic
Quote: ok
everything is individual
hjunec
Tomorrow I'm going for a multicooker.
While I am absolutely sure that I will make yogurt, yogurt and similar things in it. Since it is difficult for them to organize conditions with a constant temperature in the apartment.
I decided to buy not just a yogurt maker, but still a multicooker, in order to leave myself the opportunity for an experiment - suddenly the multicooker will be useful for something and like it. We'll see
Babushka
Talk me out of the Zigmund & Shtain MC-DS42IH Multicooker-Bread Maker! You are welcome!
Irlarsen
eye, try, well, you just try to cook potatoes in a cartoon! Since you have it
I don’t run over, God forbid! I am a peaceful person. I'm just worried that you have such a lonely, forgotten, abandoned wonderful helper. She, well, does not interfere in any way, she will facilitate YOUR work. At the same time, the creative process cannot suffer at the same time, but it will only help YOU to focus on the creative process, and not following the boiling of the potatoes and the time of their boiling. ! You can beat the eggs with a fork, you can use a special whisk, and now they have come up with a mixer. Does the creative process necessarily require extra effort?
And how wonderful and without the slightest problems you can cook pasta. You don't need to cast them, you don't need to follow. You just try
selenа
Babushka, Tanyusha, went and looked
The color scheme is not ice, the red screen will be unnerving
Induction is not always good
Well, as I could, I helped
Irlarsen
Babushka, also went to read. Why is she also a bread maker? And what is the price of the issue?
velli
OlgaGera, I read your message and see myself 100%. It just got to our site and off we go! I started with Ves -14, then Lacucina, Polaris 517, pressure cooker-smokehouse Unit 1210, Shteba, Ourson 5002. I gave the first two to my aunt's dacha, and use the rest. Each plays a role. In Shteba, jellied meat, soups, broths. In Ourson I fry, bake, carcass, boil pea porridge (she cooks them excellently and better and tastier than others). Unit can not only smoke, but also cook delicious pea soup with smoked meat, cabbage soup and borscht. I need all of them and with such helpers the stove is idle, except that sometimes I whip up fried eggs for my son's breakfast before work. I'm not talking about the sausage filler, Princeska, the Vacuum Sealer Profi Cook, and so on .... and so on ... and so on ... I can't imagine how I used to do without this arsenal of miraculous technology?
hjunec
So she's just a slow cooker, not a bread maker
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Irlarsen
velli, sausage syringe !!!! Here it is! Here it is, my new Wishlist !!!!
Irlarsen
Girls in Mvideo Polaris evo 125 multicooker-pressure cooker with Wi-Fi for 4990 !!!!! I've been playing with her for a month now, and now the price has generally dropped below the baseboard! Would be in Moscow the second would run to buy !!!!!!
Sens
Quote: Irlarsen
multi-cooker-pressure cooker with wai fay
and what is the use of wi-fay in mv. ?

or rather: what features did wi-fi add?
in my opinion, wf simply duplicates the on-off button, etc.

discussion on, if anyone is interested:

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Jenealis
Still, multicooker / pressure cooker is not a choice for everyone. I myself have 3 of them and a dozen other devices, from a pizza maker to an egg cooker. Each device performs its function, and for me, a young mother, it is very convenient. At the same time, I also have a gas stove, which stands closed with a lid, so that I do not take up space on the countertop, sometimes I only fry eggs on it. But my mother, a person who is madly in love with cooking, hardly uses cartoons and pizza makers, she is more comfortable "on gas". Moreover, her main psychological problem is that they "eat electricity." Although here someone believed that practically this is what comes out, at the current tariffs. She just got used to cooking THAT, and she's calmer.But considering that she is a housewife, this is quite normal, but she is not bored. But people who are busy, no matter what, even their favorite hobby, it seems to me that such an assistant is very necessary. Well, like a washing machine or a vacuum cleaner, you can do it without them, but it's difficult. You just need to really choose the device for your needs. That's what our forum is for. I, having not been here yet, bought myself a Panasonic, I do not remember the model, the drake was on the package, instead of a simple Polaris, I just spat. This is not a slow cooker, but a punishment, it cooks for hours, while the porridge runs in it godlessly. Barely got rid of her. Then I replaced it with the one that suits me, and was happy! Yes, you need to spend time learning how the modes work, yes, you need to rebuild. But it will take just a couple of days, and then you can calmly go about your business, and the device itself will prepare a delicious soup, roast, or whatever. And I think that mothers of babies certainly need a multicooker, our complementary foods went without cans at all, everything was done with a couple, and then with a blender. But I always knew what my baby was eating (especially the meat part). And now we have grown up and run for a walk while the pot is cooking. : girl_skakalka: So there should be a multicooker!
lira3003
Quote: Jenealis
be a slow cooker!

And not one !!!
aprelinka
I resisted for a long time. The reasons are like everyone else's. Then I bought Brand 502. lost 'gave it to mom. Brand 6051 replaced it. Now I understand that I need another toon baby for cereals. I also use the stove. My husband is afraid that Brand will break down, he mastered buckwheat porridge there, and also loves different stews with meat, potatoes and all sorts of vegetable ingredients. It is convenient for me to cook broth there, and I can also make the soup in a saucepan later. But nothing runs, no need to follow.
And the coolest yogurt maker is my manual cartoon. Yoghurt, sour cream, fermented baked milk, still undeveloped matsun, katyk in the form of special leavens are waiting in the freezer for their time.
And homemade condensed milk? What about lean porridge with mushrooms and spices? What about rice with vegetables?
A friend has a new MV on a cellophane table. I no longer try to convince her. If there is a need, it will begin to master itself.
I believe that mv should not be considered as the opposite of a stove, they complement each other wonderfully, you just need to understand the possibilities and cook with pleasure
Rarerka
Quote: aprelinka
it is not necessary to consider mv as the opposite of a stove, they complement each other wonderfully, you just need to understand the possibilities and cook with pleasure
HERE! With gold threads and a frame!
velli
Irina, Irish. I got sick with this Wishlist a year ago. Well, I bought myself and did the right thing! I make sausages and sausages myself. Once my husband brought home sausages, he liked them when he bought raw smoked brisket. And when they boiled them, it was not possible to eat some salty ones, with a bitter taste and chemical aftertaste. Apparently they wanted to disguise low-quality raw materials for sausages. No more store-bought ones, just handmade. Fortunately, now you can buy everything for their production at home. And I have a 3-liter horizontal syringe that is very easy to use. It's a pleasure to work with him. Today I stuffed them Amateur by the way.
Irlarsen
Well, since no one goes to the topic about wi-fi multi, I will write briefly here why I personally needed it. My cartoon is not the first, but somewhere tenth - twelfth (counting broken and long thrown away), so I have accumulated enough complaints about the work of cartoon programs, as well as vice versa, I adore sensory rice in the stadler, porridge in my French (there is no mention here about such a brand), pastries in a gastro-tank (there is also no about it here). But you want the perfect cartoon, don't you? Here is evo wi-fi, allows you to create any program for yourself. There, users were allowed to all work conditions multi and build yourself a program as you please, even a sensory one, even with an initial frying, even with a final one, at least how. Naturally, you can dial it all from the multi panel, so wi-fi is needed.Duplicating buttons from a soft sofa is just a toy, although nice, why not? But a 9-step multichef with three transition conditions is exactly what is interesting. For example: the taste of "pilaf" or "rice porridge", but everyone has their own, someone loves it so much, someone else, and here you can personally program your beloved one algorithm that suits you, and not the one that the manufacturer likes ... This is all done in the application, very quickly and conveniently. Once and done! And here's a sensory pilaf or sensory baking, like I have in a gastro-tank or a stew of exactly the stew that my children love, and for stewing my favorite carrot, I will create my own program and I will have at least ten stewing programs. In my opinion it is convenient, and even for such a price ...
And yes, I'm not advertising, I'm just very happy with the new opportunities for using cartoons and just want to share with people
Babushka
Quote: selenа

Babushka, Tanyusha, went and looked
The color scheme is not ice, the red screen will be unnerving
Induction is not always good
Well, as I could, I helped
Nadia, I love induction, I have a cooking (and not the first) induction. This attracted ..

Quote: Irlarsen

Babushka, also went to read. Why is she also a bread maker? And what is the price of the issue?
Quote: hjunec

So she's just a slow cooker, not a bread maker
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And here you can not insert working links?
Irina, Natalya, The price of the issue is a little over 100 bucks. The word "bread maker" in the title does not bother, as there is a bread maker on the farm, but I like bread from the oven more.

Did not work! didn't work yet. I will state the situation: I want suvid. The multicooker-bread machine Zigmund & Shtain MC-DS42IH, I think, is suitable for this purpose. The price is not exorbitant ... I don't really want to order something with delivery to us. Liked the induction. I am not a special fan of multicooker, but in certain situations they help me out. I have on the farm and use: Panasonic 4.5 liters, Toshiba small, Brand smokehouse-pressure cooker, favorite Homecooker Jamie Oliver. And a bunch of other equipment ... A lot of bukoffs, but it looks like I'm going to buy ...
Rada-dms
Quote: Irlarsen
A slow cooker is considered a useless thing only by those who do not have one. Exactly the same passions are boiling over dishwashers. And if you move a little further, then I remember how they explained to me that a washing machine is not needed either
Exactly! Already three of my friends have lost seven years of their lives and a lot of time because they reasoned like that! As a result, they broke down and bought, seeing all the benefits! And now life cannot be imagined without these devices! And how many conversations there were, condemnations ...
For me, it already seems wild, if there is no additional. appliances to the stove ...
Rada-dms
And Shteba's multicooker-pressure cooker can cook wonderful jellied meat even on a gentle mode, choose only the right temperature and time! I also don't like very rich broths, so I often cook them for 86-90 grams for a long time and without problems, I just put it on at night, and the tariff is low!
Biryusa
Quote: Rada-dms
Already three of my friends have lost seven years of their lives and a lot of time because they reasoned like that!
And if there are several multicooker on the farm, how much do they extend life?
For me, the question in the title sounds a little more voluminous: is it worth buying another multicooker? And how many of them do you need to have for complete happiness?
Rada-dms
I would consider that three are needed: a small cartoon and two different sketches.

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