Venera007
And I have more than four days yoghurts and sour cream in the refrigerator do not linger.
Ivanovna5
Quote: Kara
but without preservatives, unnecessary bacteria begin to multiply in sour milk

Kara, Ir, where do they come from if we sterilize the cans before preparing sour cream and yogurt, and boil the milk?
I cook for a whole week and I think that even more can stand if, after cooking, the resulting product is decomposed into smaller sterile jars and immediately sent to the refrigerator.
baba nata
Girls, thanks!
Creamy
I am very lazy, and therefore I make the leaven at once for 15 ferments. I use a silicone mold, there are 15 cubes in it, the size of the edge of the cube is 3.5x3.5x3.5 cm, the volume of one cube is 43 ml. I immediately pour it into a mold, freeze it, then take out the cubes and store in a bag with a zip-lock fastener. And no attempts on the part of the household on the last spoonful of leavening sour cream. In general, this is my favorite form, I freeze a lot of things in it, the cube shape and volume turned out to be very successful. I still dream of buying a couple of just such a shape, unfortunately, I don't see it on sale now.

Homemade sour cream
Linadoc
Alevtina, an interesting option! Need to try .
musyanya
Creamy, And then how to revive? Add a cube to the cream and it melts there by itself, then stir it? Or are you melting the cube and pouring it into cream?
Creamy
musyanya, I’m lazy, but according to all the laws of physics, this frozen cube does not sink, but it floats like an iceberg, like ice on a river, and melts as it warms up, and then I just mix it with a clean (sterile) spoon. And that's it! As I throw the cube to swim and melt, I immediately cover it with a lid so that other bacteria do not get into the air.
musyanya
Oh, I will do that too, otherwise every time I open the jar I wonder how many microbes have flown into it. Cubes can also be thrown into a sterile jar if desired.
kil
Quote: Creamy

I am very lazy, and therefore I make the leaven at once for 15 ferments. I use a silicone mold, there are 15 cubes in it, the size of the edge of the cube is 3.5x3.5x3.5 cm, the volume of one cube is 43 ml.

(y) Is it possible in more detail what exactly is frozen for sour cream? First sour cream?
Creamy
kil, yes, you are right, it is the first sour cream that goes into sourdough. What a saving of leaven this is!
kil
CreamyAlevtina thanks for the science, I really liked this business, I will also freeze the leaven.
Creamy
Girls, I forgot to say that this 15-cube shape holds 645 ml of volume (43 ml x 15 = 645 ml). I don’t top up a couple of mm to the top, because due to the water contained in the product when freezing, the cube "swells" towards the top.
lotoslotos
Linadoc, thanks a lot for the sour cream science !!! Made from all the cream that was found in the house (1.2 l). It turned out very thick and tasty! There were grains on top, like butter, but after mixing everything was evenly distributed. The husband says that you can just eat sour cream, since it is in such quantities)))) So from the whole family, thanks !!!
julia_bb
I, too, used to think that sour cream only goes to borscht or to salads, and when it is so tasty, then this can be just with black bread for dinner, mmm
Linadoc
Oh, girls, I'm very glad that this simple recipe brings so much joy to people! Do it to your health, please your loved ones.
redleafa
Tell me, what did I do? I fermented the cream not with sour cream, but with Greek yogurt. The taste is very similar to store sour cream. And I made fermented baked milk with Greek yogurt. Once from store-bought baked milk, another time she melted milk herself. Well ryazhenka! Thick, spoon is worth, bitter! Have already eaten.
Linadoc
The Bulgarian yogurt stick ferments cream perfectly to creamy yogurt, but it's not sour cream.Yes, thick, but tasty, but yogurt. Sour cream has a different taste, sweet and creamy. And baked milk fermented with yoghurt is not fermented baked milk, but varenets. You can do it if the result is pleasing, only sour cream with streptococcus lactis is fermented.
Venera007
Quote: lotoslotos
The husband says that you can just eat sour cream, since it is in such quantities))))
Quote: julia_bb
I, too, used to think that sour cream only goes to borscht or to salads, and when it is so tasty, then this can be just with black bread for dinner
I also smear sour cream on bread, of course, on homemade, and with tea instead of sweets and cakes ...
To whom I tell, they do not understand my delight
they don't understand, they don't bake bread, they don't make sour cream
Linadoc
Tatyana, in-in! I have the same story! For the night I put bread in khp on whey, with corn flour, with rye sourdough and dry onions
Aromaaaat in the morning! And for breakfast with his own sour cream and jam or ham (all his own) - a song! Good start to the day!
Ekaterina2
Venera007, retarded people .....
My sour cream gets cold in the fridge. It seems to work out. I did it in Orsonchik for 8 hours. I decided to ditch the leaven in the Tapeverovsky Gnome, there is a maximum of 50 ml, and there are also marks for 40 and 30 ml.
Venera007
Linadoc,
Quote: Linadoc
I put bread in khp on whey, corn flour, rye sourdough and dry onions
Aromaaaat in the morning!
I imagine the neighbors probably salivate from such scents)
Linadoc
No, I'm at the dacha. Only my husband and I are salivating in the morning. And here in the garden the strawberries are still ripe, to the sour cream.
Gandalf
Quote: Creamy
I make the leaven at once for 15 fermentation
How long can such a leaven be stored in the freezer?
Creamy
Gandalf, in two months my stock of sourdough leaves. The leaven does not lose its qualities. I repeat, the volume of the cube is 43 ml of uterine culture.
redleafa
Well, let me have fatty yogurt. I put it in cabbage soup and salad - good !!
Mirabel
Tell me, how many times can you ferment sour cream? I mean, if you use your sour cream for sourdough.
Venera007
Mirabeluntil sour. But I don't get to this state. After 5-7 fermentation, I take a new sour cream. It just happens somehow. There is dry sour cream sourdough, but it is for a liter of cream, and I make a maximum of half a liter of sour cream ...
Albina
I really liked making sour cream in Orsyusha
Mirabel
Tatyana, Thank you! We do not always have sour cream for fermentation on sale, maybe I can find it in the Polish store.
Mirabel
Something does not work out for me full sour cream ... Knowledgeable! Tell me please!
So I take long-playing cream (there are no others), ferment it with sour cream (also long-playing).
In the multicooker it worked the last time for 18 hours and then in the refrigerator. The sour cream is not thick, nothing can be cut there, even the spoon does not form a hole, but it tastes quite good.
That is, how the dressing will go, into baking too, but into cream ... I don't know ..
How can the matter be corrected so that the sour cream is thick?
Elena Bo
Quote: Mirabel
I ferment with sour cream (also long-lasting).
Here's the mistake.
Sour cream is needed for a sourdough with a short term of use, that is, live.
Mirabel
Elena BoWherever I can get this even from the Poles for a long time ... I'll look at the market.
Linadoc
Vika, rightfully so, Elena wrote. You need live sour cream with high CFU (colony-forming units, that is, microbes, streptococci), but this is just a killed fermented milk product - there is a taste, but no benefits.
Mirabel
Linadoc, I will look for the "right" sour cream
Svetta
Linadoc, saw the topic about sour cream and perked up. The fact is that we now live in a dacha and buy rural milk - milk, cream, sour cream. So, sometimes there is no sour cream, but cream is always sold. One woman taught me to make the same sour cream from cream as milkmaids sell: add 350-400 ml of milk to 500 ml of cream, stir and cool. I did, everything worked out, tasty and fatty, like from the market. But in fact it is not sour cream!
And I have a question. How can I make sour cream like yours from fatty cream (almost butter)? In the city I will buy factory sour cream 15% the most "live" for sourdough. But how to transform the cream itself?
Linadoc
Quote: svetta
But how to transform the cream itself?
Light, so our girls calmly breed milk and that's it. Even 6% milk was fermented - it turns out as 15% factory sour cream.
Svetta
Quote: Linadoc

Light, so our girls calmly breed milk and that's it.Even 6% milk was fermented - it turns out as 15% factory sour cream.

I would like to figure out how much of that milk is needed up to 15-20% fat ...
Linadoc
Very heavy cream is 30-35%, respectively, it is necessary to dilute it with milk by 2 times: that is, take 100 ml of cream and 100 ml of milk.
Albina
And if you take 35% cream and ferment Vivo with sourdough, how much fat will you get? I never asked such a question, but everyone calculates something
Linadoc
You will get sour cream 35% fat - what is the fat content of cream, so is the fat content of sour cream. Simply properly prepared thermophilic sour cream of such fat content can be chopped with an ax.
Mirabel
Linadoc, Lina, I'm back to you for help! It looks like in Belgium you can buy short-lived sour cream only from farmers. Today we were on the market and the salesman uncle swore that it was not cream, but real sour cream. K sozh in French, both are called the same. I told him 40 times in English that I was looking for SOR-KRIM (sour cream). At home, I opened and found the real cream, but he said that they would begin to thicken in the refrigerator.
And on the lid it is also written (also literal translation - uncooked ... not processed more precisely, raw, that is) Is it not dangerous to use it at all?
So ... let it thicken at the beginning? Or is it possible to ferment cream for sour cream with liquid?
Linadoc
Vikait looks like it's just fresh cream. There is an option that they themselves will ferment. To do this, leave at room T for 4 hours, stirring occasionally, and then put in a yogurt maker for 6-8 hours. For starters, you can not ferment all the cream, but if they themselves ferment, then already 1 jar as a ferment can be used to ferment the rest of the cream.
Mirabel
Linadoc, Linochka! Thank you very much!
A.lenka
Quote: Mirabel
I will look for the "right" sour cream
Mirabel, Vika, can it be easier for you to find a dry sour cream starter?
Mirabel
Elena, Thanks for the advice! Are there different starter cultures for sour cream and yoghurt?
We do not have such good in pharmacies, few people here would think of doing something like this at home, you will have to look for it on Amazon or Ibea.
On the food market, when I found out why I was looking for "live" sour cream, I was dumbfounded.
Linadoc
Vika, for sour cream you need streptococci, for yogurt you need a Bulgarian stick. You can buy the whole range of starter cultures from Laktin (Bulgaria), maybe someone else, the girls will tell you.
Mirabel
Linadoc, Linochka, thank you! I will try your method at the beginning, and then you will see.
Natalishka
Quote: Linadoc
You can buy the full range of starter cultures from Lactin.
Today I fermented Lactin with sour cream (n) She is so snotty, even stretches in her mouth. Brrr ... disgusting
A.lenka
The girls in the Orson branch wrote about the MEZO (Caprina) leaven for sour cream, fermented baked milk, yogurt. Praised. I also want to try to buy it.
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I got a viscous sour cream on sourdough sour cream DVD. I didn't like it.
Playful
Girls, does anyone make sour cream from cream with homemade milk? Tell me how you, so to speak, process them before the leaven? After all, they cannot be boiled like milk, they curl up ...

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