mur_myau
Natalishka,
By the way. I'm a brake on the five-year plan. Do you remember talking about a single wire? So here's the one that goes from a rectangular prumel to a round one.
gala10
mur_myau, with new assistants! Let them serve for a long time and with benefit!
Ligra
auntyirisha, sorry for the princess, but the diet is 'burning' super

mur_myau, finally got it, I'm waiting for the impressions (although I'm a chelyab. Miracle, but it's also interesting and the recipes are suitable for both these and those).
mur_myau
URGENTLY!!! Help !!!

I loaded a rectangular prummel for 1 kg of dough. It rose so hard that it hit the lid. It starts to burn. What to do? Turn off and bake in the oven? She's not warmed up.
Zena
Cover Lena with foil or baking paper
Natalishka
Elenain a round volume 3.5l. more, so there is 500g. flour rises to the top. And this 2 liter, less in volume
gala10
Elena, and if you put baking paper on top (under the lid)?
mur_myau
Natalishka,
Natasha, I already understood where I went wrong. I have two instructions side by side, I look at one, I read about the other. It was necessary for 500g of dough, this is the ceiling. Otherwise, it will trample to the lid.

So I turned it off and put the dish in the oven. The door, fortunately, has closed (the shape is very long).

I'll see later how the bottom and top with grinders will be washed. Of the shortcomings, I have identified one so far: there is no separate stand for the lid, where do you put it when you remove it from the mold? I'll come up with something. The domestic miracle comes with two coasters for such a case.

gala10,
Did not help! Temporary measure, because the dough is close to the tenu. And from the paper the top ceased to close tightly with the form. Began to write on the forum.
Zena
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Did not help! Temporary measure, because the dough is close to the tenu. And from the paper the top ceased to close tightly with the form. Began to write on the forum.
well, oh, oh!
tell me later how it was washed ..
Natalishka
Elena, Okay, don't be upset. Here is the experience.
mur_myau
Divna,
Shchaz ... In general, I realized that the top would burn even more in the oven, and I just took out the loaf on the board, turned it over and baked it upside down. Although, according to my feelings, the sides and bottom are already quite with a pleasant crust. But just a little more just in case. Then I'll cut off the top crust.
When I took it out, the bread slipped out easily (greased it with vegetable oil before baking).
The prumel lid is still hot. It cools down - I will clean it.
mur_myau
Quote: Natalishka
Here is the experience.
Exactly! And all the way, it smells so delicious. Although the view is unpresentable.
gala10
Quote: mur_myau
unpresentable view.
The main thing is that it is delicious!
Zena
Quote: gala10
The main thing is that it is delicious!
washing experience !!!
mur_myau
gala10,
Now I'll finish it, cool it down a bit and try.
And I will process the pictures.
Natalishka
Elena, but look how they put the cover on the video-
Admin


Girls, immediately select links so as not to insert them into a search engine Not all browsers have "open in a new window" and you need to search for a link through a search engine.

For this:
take a link to U-tube
select it with the mouse
push the button Electric miracle stoves "Prumel"

AND EVERYTHING! Watching a movie!
Natalishka
Tatyana, Yes I can. It's just that everyone has already seen this link. True, they did not pay attention to how they put the lid on the table in a rectangular Prumel
Admin

Natasha, well, we don’t know about it. The link does not say that it has already been and where to look for it in the topic
And it's okay that there will be a replay, but you don't need to run to a search engine and look for a movie
Natalishka
Tatyana, OK
By the way, where's the guru's pastries? Promised
mur_myau
Admin,
A! I realized what my mistake was. I held my arms upside down. It is possible to remove the lid, but put it on the table no longer.
Natalishka
Elenayou seem to be worried today. Still, until the parcel waited
Admin
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Tatyana, OK
By the way, where's the guru's pastries? Promised

Yeah, I found something to find fault with in revenge
I walk in shock and trance, today two invoices were presented to me for a total cost of 10 thousand scars, even more for a broken window and for updating water meters

I received the saucepan yesterday - very pretty
Natalishka
Tatyana, Is the window broken? You are a bully ...
Admin
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Tatyana, Is the window broken? You are a bully ...

Aha! Especially when I live on the 6th floor, and they break it from the street, at 1 am Weak?
Natalishka
So they broke it for you: girl_red: I thought the bill was presented, Did you change the meters or ...?
Admin

But the replacement of the glass bag at my expense
Replacing the meters is also at my expense - the management company changes, I pay
mur_myau
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for updating water meters
But I have not. I pay according to the standard with an increasing coefficient. And I advise you.

1. Cut off the counter. (Or we don't, it doesn't matter. Neither one nor the other physical persons the law does not directly prohibit).
2. We call from the water utility to draw up an act and certify the absence of the meter.
3. A copy of the act is presented to the power supply (so that they do not take payment for heating, but only for heating).
4. We present a copy of the act to the settlement center (against signature).
5. We present a copy of the act to our management company.
6. We receive a new bill according to the standard, we pour as much water as we want.
No transfer of readings ... No expensive meters and checks.

True, this will not work in a new house. Only in the old Soviet style.

They tried to convince me for a long time that I would overpay a lot of money. As a result, the neighbors count every liter and still pay more than me. The number of showers per apartment is the same.

Natalishka
We ourselves (husband) change. For 16 years already changed 3 times. A year ago, 2000 rubles. were worth everything.
mur_myau
Milk with bread, delicious. Now we will eat and the pictures will be.
mur_myau
Natalishka,
Two thousand are not lying on the road. By the way, we have the cheapest - for five thousand.
Anastasenok
It is much cheaper with us with meters than in an old apartment without them. But we do not pour much, a dishwasher once a day and a shower. Neighbors without PMM, with whom we are friends, have a significantly higher consumption of hot water in the kitchen. Because the dishes are washed by hands. I'm on maternity leave, at home together all day. I cook often and wash too.

Mom, too, after installing the meters, paid off in a year.
Admin
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But I have not. I pay according to the standard with an increasing coefficient. And I advise you.

True, this will not work in a new house. Only in the old Soviet style.

They tried to convince me for a long time that I would overpay a lot of money. As a result, the neighbors count every liter and still pay more than me. The number of showers per apartment is the same. [/ Spoiler]

Taking into account the new legislation, this number will not work, the meters (and I have two risers and 4 meters) are now obliged to install everyone, even in old houses - I know that for sure.
Natalishka
Elena, I'm shocked: oWhat is not profitable for you? I set it myself. It is very beneficial for us. We pay per month for less than one prescribed. And I save only so. that I constantly close the water. She just does not run like a stream with us. And it doesn't drip anywhere. I have this habit since Kazakhstan, there was no meter there. There are other problems ...
Natalishka
Elena, it's expensive for us, too, if you call locksmiths. And two thousand, I pay off in three months. And the counters are for five years.
mur_myau
Admin,
Tanya, so as not to argue on this topic, briefly. This is the interpretation of the water utility and the authorities. I specifically emphasized - for physical persons it is not forbidden to live without meters, not install or remove them. What is not prohibited is allowed. It's just that the rate of payment for the standard increases every year. Nobody will fine or force you to put meters.
I can post references to articles of laws in another topic or send them in a personal.

Natalishka,
I love the bath! And a shower in the morning (I don't understand how some people can wash only once a day). And not only me. Cleaning an apartment of almost 100 squares is a lot of water. We drink filtered tap water. So far, I have no meters and do not regret it.

In general, if people are sure of something, they cannot be persuaded. Let them decide for themselves.
Admin
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Elena, it's expensive for us, too, if you call locksmiths. And two thousand, I pay off in three months. And the counters are for five years.

Well, I also have a meter worth 1050 rubles + 600 installation. Another thing is that I need 4 meters for two risers.
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I love the bath! And a shower in the morning (I don't understand how some people can wash only once a day). And not only me. Cleaning an apartment of almost 100 squares is a lot of water. We drink filtered tap water. So far, I have no counters and do not regret it.

Yes, I, too, somehow got used to "washing in the mornings and evenings" and the apartment with the dishes needs to be washed .... every day And others have the same problems.
But why should the cost of water consumed by someone be then thrown at everyone or included in the increase in tariffs?
This is strange, strange
mur_myau
Admin,
If I knew what their arithmetic is. It's easier for me to pay like this until I'm 18. And then, if they are obliged by law without options - well, I will. Where to go. Floor 5 - I'll leave one pipe for cold water, I'll cut off the rest. And a water heater.
In the next entrance on the 5th floor, a friend did so, and it comes out cheaper. For electricity a little more, but not critical. He also threatens to put on a gas water heater, but I'm still sitting in the bushes and waiting for her to save money.

So, report! Knead and melt in a bread maker. Then she rolled it on an oil board into a roll, put it seam down in a greased mold. Hell began to burn from above. Put it in the oven, baked upside down until tender. Nothing stuck to the form.
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Side view, in section without crust.
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I cut it hot, sorry, I could not resist. The pores are large, the upper crust has fallen behind, but in the process of cutting, and not a cavity during baking. The recipe is basic from my bread machine.
Electric miracle stoves "Prumel"
The dough stuck to the lid. I did not risk soaking it, because there is a heating element. Wiped off "Dosya cream" - fig! Then the "metal cleaner" Amway. Figo. And easily mastered Svinto. We tear off such a small particle from the sponge, moisten it with water and three dirty place. There will be a gray foam from aluminum - not scary.
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The bottom mold was easily washed with a soapy sponge.
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mur_myau
Next time I'll try 500 and 600 gram loaves. I wondered which one would be ideal.
Natalishka
Elenahow long is the loaf?
mur_myau
Natalishka,
Didn't measure. I can measure the shape along the top edge. About one and a half times longer than standard.
Natalishka
I know the form, the site says. And the roll is smaller? Although the walls of the form are probably not thick.
mur_myau
32.5 * 10.5 cm if along the notch that limits the loaf (inner edge).
And the walls are quite massive. And there is a rim for the lid, an allowance of almost 8 mm to the dimensions that I indicated.
Natalishka
Wow, that means 42cm. it is with the ears. Not much more round.
mur_myau
Natalishka,
Yes, with ears.
The round seems to be smaller (today I will not, I will measure it tomorrow).
By the way, I liked the round handles more. Although they are non-removable, there are both at the bottom and at the top, the jumper attachment does not allow them to heat up. It would be better to make such a rectangular one and also props for the lid.
But in general I am satisfied, I will experiment further.
Yulek
mur_myau, Lenok, congratulations on the bread! His crust is very appetizing! And in the last photo, it seemed to me that there were stains from friction? I didn't think that a rectangular stove with a 1m heater could create such a uniform crust. Congratulations!
Yulek
Yes! And the Guru is silent ... we are waiting for Promelev's art !!!
mur_myau
Yulek,
Thank you! Yes, there are stains, but you can see them only when the camera is flashing and when looking at close range. It is fortunate that the surface is matte rather than shiny. It doesn’t strike the eye at all that it was cleaned.
The crust was already strong enough before baking in the oven, pale yellow (did not photograph). But I was reinsured, I was afraid that it was damp inside. In the final photos, the crust after the oven is more tanned.
How to determine the readiness of the test with a thermometer? Who will teach?
Anna1957
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How to determine the readiness of the test with a thermometer? Who will teach?

94 degrees. Admin taught that.
mur_myau
Anna1957,
Thank you!

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