AnastasiaK
Lagri, Maria, I haven't delivered the foil to anyone else yet, but there was not a single miss in Maxwell! Although, nevertheless, if I missed the mark with the dough (and saw it right away), there was a lot of water, the bread squatted slightly, but did not fall!
Maybe an accident, and something is wrong with the recipe?
Lagri
Here I am, I'm sure in Maxwell, but not in others yet. Here in Scarlett does not work yet. Although, if we compare the roof that was obtained yesterday with the one that was before, in Scarlett (the roof turned out like a crater), then this time it was very good, only on one side it dropped a little. Maybe next time it will be better. By the way, there is only one glass in Scarlett, and two in Maxwell, but I still installed the foil inside the bread machine.
walexyz
Lagrithanks for showing the foil effect! The "parted" baked goods do not really fall off.
I have a question for you and everyone who is looking into the ventilation holes in the top cover. Can you close them by placing foil around the entire perimeter of the top cover? Or, be sure to leave these holes open. The closed-hole bread was baked well, but there are doubts about the safety.
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I don't want to open the fan)).

From 300g of ramen flour at 30r for 2kg and a noun-name of yeast for 6r / pack, we got quite a nice 500 gram loaf.
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Lagri
walexyz, I'm glad that everything worked for you. Since I put the foil down, the roof of my bread has never fallen off. I think that you, too, will now receive a stable result. As for the holes on the lid of the bread maker, my husband explained to me that they should not be closed. And the top of the bread will be the same color with the sides, if the screw inside the bread machine, which is above the heating elements, is unscrewed by 30 degrees. But this decision is individual, because they say that this is not necessary, there may be troubles, we discussed here Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W # 885, but I still unscrewed the screw and now everything is OK in this regard. Good luck to you!
walexyz
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And the top of the bread will be the same color with the sides, if the screw inside the bread machine, which is above the heating elements, is unscrewed by 30 degrees.
Lagri, thank you answer and advice. You mean this screw in the photo? Or is that screw higher on the wall?
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Lagri
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Or is that screw higher on the wall?
Yes.
Lagri
walexyz, write later as results. What worked and what didn't. I think everyone will be interested.
walexyz
Lagri, I have not twisted the screw yet. When you load 400 grams of flour, the crust turns out to be darker, and on Dark, even tough. The best is the enemy of the good, and then we will see. The roof doesn't sag anymore, but if you add 40g of flaxseed flour, it looks like a hummocky tundra. Perhaps you need to change the mode. And if you add 120g of rye flour and a spoonful of sour cream, then the bread rises very much and grows weighing up to 670g.
The screw for tightening, as I understand now, is the one highlighted in red, right?
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Lagri
walexyz, in your photo is not very visible. This cog:
Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W
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When you load 400 grams of flour, the crust turns out to be darker, and on Dark, even tough.
In this case, I turn off the program 10 minutes earlier and leave the bread in the turned off bread maker. The crust is thinner and the bread is baked.
I like this kind of bread, we have it everyday, the recipe is successful, the roof of the bread is convex.
• 315 g - flour (270 g wheat grade 1/35 g rye / 10 g whole grain.)
• 180 g - whey
• 7 g - pressed yeast
• 1h. l. - sugar
• 1 tsp. - salt
• 20 g - grows. oils
1. In the Main batch mode, minutes 4.
2. Then add the Basic mode 3 hours + 30 minutes to the proofer.
3. Remove the paddle after the last batch.
It turns out this is the bread on the Middle Crust (I showed it above):
Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W
walexyz
Quote: Lagri
In this case, I turn off the program 10 minutes earlier and leave the bread in the turned off bread maker. The crust is thinner and the bread is baked.
Unfortunately, the automatic machine cannot set 2 hours 50 minutes on the main program. At 13 o'clock it is possible, but 10 minutes less than 3 o'clock is no longer. Chinese logic.
LagriThanks for the recipe, I will adjust. I need 1) bread with about 400 grams of flour to bake at the same time all the time, and 2) bread that comes out completely on the machine so that after the first batch I will no longer be distracted. Rolsen allowed this to be done quite successfully, I hope now to tame Maxwell.))
Lagri
It seems my bucket has come, because when kneading the dough it crunches somehow and something very dark on the dough remains at the bottom near the shoulder blade. Only the baking of bread became normal and there is another problem. She can bake, of course, and bakes well now, but still I won't buy a bucket, because there are other bread machines besides Maxwell. I will only bake in it: in a bucket and in baking tins.
AnastasiaK
Maria, my bucket also came to an end, only on the other side - the coating on the edges, against which the dough beats, has worn off, to shiny metal. At this point, now, of course, bread sticks when baking. I bought a bucket from Redmond, it is almost the same, a little higher. It cost something about 1,000. But I only use Maxwell for mixing mostly, so the stove is still working. Yes, the oven is convenient in any additional shape, I picked up a few aluminum bakery. The rest everything works fine.
Lagri
Anastasia, stoves do not last forever and once something breaks down, but it's a pity - you get used to them so much. I, of course, do not promise that I will definitely not buy a bucket. If you suddenly come across some suitable one, then maybe I'll buy it. But I will not look specifically. Sorry for Maxwell. She just began to work correctly, and then the bucket deteriorated. What's the name of the Redmond bucket, just in case?
AnastasiaK
Breadmaker bowl Redmond RP-A100 for RBM-1908 and RBM-1912 is called. It was inexpensive, and I took it. While the oven is working, it is so small, it is always at hand, it is convenient to make dough. And then while the heavy Panasonic is pulled out of the closet)), although of course he is super and automatic, I will not part with him for anything.
Lagri
Thank you, if you are satisfied with the meeting and the price, then I will buy a bucket. I also really like Panasonic. Recently I have been using it and I am 100% sure that the bread will turn out, any, only pleases.




Anastasia, I looked everywhere for this bucket - nowhere. They write: either ended or withdrawn from sale. They were in TechnoPoint, Wildbury and other online stores, but they ended everywhere. So I flew with the bucket. Well, maybe something else will turn up. And how to understand whether some other bucket will fit or not, I don't know ...
Amazonka
AnastasiaK,
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I took 300 grams of wheat flour and 100 grams of rye (including 2 tablespoons of malt). The Borodinsky program for 4 hours put the weight on 600. The dough was kneaded very well, but with a little strain.
Please write in full recipe
AnastasiaK
Larissa, for this amount of flour of live yeast 14 grams (I already had them old), if fresh workers can be 10-12 grams. The recipe is standard - 400 flour (300 wheat, 100 rye), 250-260 grams of water (how much is needed for a kolobok), salt 1 tsp, sugar 1 sec. l., vegetable oil 1 s. l.
Amazonka
AnastasiaK, thanks for the recipe, but if you take dry yeast, about 1 tsp? And it seems like the malt was in the recipe, how to dilute it or put it dry directly?
I want to try it in Delta (Endever clone), but there rye mode is only 3 hours, and only French for 4 hours, can I try it on it, what do you think?
AnastasiaK
Larissa, yes, dry yeast can be 1 tsp. standard. And add the malt to the account of the total weight of the flour, I put it dry. In the French mode, the bread will turn out more airy, you just need to look so that it does not come out of the bucket during proofing (if the bread maker is small). Then just turn on the baked goods earlier.
Amazonka
AnastasiaK, Thank you so much! I will try for now on rye or in the Chef-Baker mode in March 1784, I found your description of the Borodinsky mode, I will try to set such parameters, it may work




Lagri, Maria,
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I like this kind of bread, we have it everyday, the recipe is successful, the roof of the bread is convex.
• 315 g - flour (270 g wheat grade 1/35 g rye / 10 g whole grain.)
• 180 g - whey
• 7 g - pressed yeast
• 1h. l. - sugar
• 1 tsp. - salt
• 20 g - grows. oils
Maria, in this recipe, is it enough to put 1 tsp of sugar? Or were you mistaken, still 1 tbsp?
Lagri
Larissa, 1 tsp sugar, right.
Amazonka
Maria, thanks for the answer! Already baked according to this recipe, only instead of whey I took yogurt, a very tasty bread with a beautiful roof turned out, thanks for the recipe. Please tell me if you use the presses. yeast, but without dough, then you need to put them immediately in the liquid or what? Have you ever tried to bake Easter cake or muffin? If you did, please write a recipe
Lagri
Larissa, I always spread the pressed yeast, crumbling, the very first ones, on the bottom of the bucket. Then I add the liquid and everything else. At the very end of the flour. The stove has enough time to mix everything well, so I don't dissolve them in liquid, but just spread them as I wrote.
Both the cake and the cake tried to bake. Everything worked out well, but I don’t like to bake them in a bread maker, so I baked them once, twice and didn’t repeat them again. Here Cake, I showed the recipe, look. And there is cake there, a little further, and also with a recipe. maybe at Anastasia the recipe for Easter cake is closer, she also baked cake and exhibited a photo somewhere in the subject.
Amazonka
Maria, thanks a lot, I will definitely try!
Lagri
Larissa, here you can see the recipe for kulich exhibited by Oksana, brendabaker Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752WKulich in Maxwell 3752 bread maker
I think you will like it.
Amazonka
Maria, thank you, I'll try it today, I hope it tastes like cake, not bread, I somehow made Easter cake both in Panasonic and in Moulinex, but it tasted more like dry bread and I didn't bake anymore, but now I think maybe just the recipe was not entirely successful. I also ordered forms L11 and round for 13, I look forward to it, I want the same beautiful bread as they put it here, although I don't have such HP models, but they are also small, I hope everything will work out
Lagri
In baking molds, the bread always turns out great, I always liked this bread. Only shifting the dough is sometimes tiresome. But sometimes I also use forms. In them, the roof of the bread is always convex and, in general, the type of bread is beautiful. I baked in different bread makers in molds and never had punctures. So everything will work out for you. Just before putting the dough into a mold after the last kneading in a bread maker, you need to grease the mold (I smeared it with margarine, rubbed it with a piece of margarine and rubbed it with a brush), and then dust it with flour, shake out the excess flour. The bread will jump out very well after baking.)) Good luck.
Amazonka
Maria, and the new forms were calcined in the oven?
Lagri
Yes, I did. Where I bought the molds, I was told that I needed to be oiled and calcined, but I did this with one form and it darkened for me, so I ignited the others without greasing, and everything is fine. I have several forms.
Amazonka
Maria, thanks :) As I get it, I'll try and unsubscribe, what happened
Lagri
AnastasiaK, Anastasia, I want to ask you about the screw that we unscrewed so actively: did it remain unscrewed in your bread maker? I remember I left mine unscrewed by 45 degrees and now I put a dark crust, the bread is badly toasted, I have to regulate the crust with sugar, that is, I think, it can unscrew a little more ... The oven cannot be eternal. Let it be - what will be. The buckets over there are slowly failing themselves.
AnastasiaK
Maria, yes, as I unscrewed the screw, I left it, I was not afraid. It bakes perfectly. So you can probably take a chance.
Palych
Using a screw (unscrewing), we reduce the thermal conductivity of the sensor body to the wall, pressing it.
Lagri
Anastasia, I have already unscrewed.
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Using a screw (unscrewing), we reduce the thermal conductivity of the sensor body to the wall, pressing it.
I didn't quite understand ...
Palych
Maria, well, how do you think the temperature changes? There are no moving parts in the thermistor.
Lagri
Igor, what does this mean, the consequence of unscrewing the screw will negatively affect the operation of the bread machine or what? I don’t know anything about thermistors, just explain.
Palych
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can unscrew a little more ... The stove cannot be eternal. Let it be - what will be.
Twist. He only holds the sensor, pressing it against the body.
Lagri
Here here and below we were explained how the screw unscrewing could end. Therefore, having unscrewed it, we then spun it back. But Anastasia still works fine, so you can unscrew it. After all, it helps to make baked goods more ruddy.
Lagri
Anastasia, I never found a bucket for Maxwell, having shoveled the entire Internet, buckets (I was looking for Redmond) ran out everywhere, and in return I bought a small Smile 1193 bread maker, thinking that a bucket might be suitable for Maxwell. Bread weighing 450g / 700 g is baked in it. It so happened that the bucket almost fits into Maxwell, in height. But I was not upset, because I really liked the bread maker. The bread in it without dancing with tambourines turns out to be excellent: it is baked well, with a beautiful convex roof, evenly toasted, that is, everything that we achieved so much in Maxwell. And, what is interesting and I really liked, in this Smile bread maker, that on any program there is only one kneading and a couple of long proofings with one kneading, that is, like the programs of Rye and French in Panasonic. The duration of the programs is normal, there are 12 of them. There is also a window that does not interfere with baking bread with a convex roof. And then I decided not to look for a bucket for Maxwell anymore, let it only bake. And she did not half regret that she bought Smile, and for a price of less than 3 thousand.
AnastasiaK
Maria, that's lovely! Show me the new stove, very curious! It is strange that the window does not prevent the top from baking normally. And what interesting programs. And our Redmond bucket is still sold in an online store, it costs something in rubles of 1150. Although, of course, a whole new oven for 3000 rubles is generally a godsend. A photo of bread to boast?
Lagri
Anastasia, I wanted to take a picture of bread yesterday, but did not dare, did not think that it would be useful. Tomorrow I will bake and take a picture. The bread turned out, several times already, of a beautiful uniform color, with a beautiful roof. I'm so happy with the stove. I took it at my own peril and risk, according to reviews and customer reviews.

And the bread maker is like this:
Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W

AnastasiaK
Mariawhat a beautiful oven! It looks not cheap, the body is metal, like the big ones. I can't estimate the size, how does it look in relation to Maxwell - is it bigger? Less? I looked for this brand on sale, nowhere else. Neither Ozone, nor WB, nor our stores sell such.
Lagri
Anastasia, here they are:
Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W
I bought from OnlineTrade. A very good online store.

They sell another good oven there, but I don't need it anymore. Also a little more than 3 thousand. Completely metallic from all sides, beautiful and, according to reviews, very normal. There is even a dispenser for additives, also metal. A dream stove. The weight of the baked bread is 500/750/1000 g. But the weight of the oven is 7 kg. Like this:
Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W Yes, I looked at the Smile bread maker in online stores and it seems they were really quickly sold out. And I bought it only about 2 weeks ago.

AnastasiaK
Maria, yeah, now it's clear, just above Maxwell is a new oven. Maybe due to the height, there is more room for hot air circulation, and the roof turns out well?
Here, for comparison, is the height of the Redmond and Endever buckets. I want to try using it in Maxwell, it sits much lower, maybe it will be even better.
Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W

Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W
Now I have a photo sideways) how do not edit them.
Lagri
The bucket in Smile sits in the same way as the bucket in Maxwell.

Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W


I think the Smile modes are better tuned. At Maxwell, we corrected mistakes ourselves, and some Maxwell owners always got bread with a convex roof and evenly toasted bread. Probably, we came across copies with not entirely correct mode settings.It was only after I inserted the foil that the roof of the bread always became convex. I baked bread in Maxwell the other day and I didn't seem to see any gray marks under my shoulder blade. But I still don't trust her to knead the dough, because as soon as I remember what kind of gray-dirty dough was downstairs after kneading, I don't want to knead.




Anastasia, here is Smile bread, from 300 g of flour (70 g rye / 230 g wheat. 1 grade on whey 180 ml, yeast pressed. 6 g). The color of all the bread is again the same on all sides, and it is always so. Baked on the machine.
Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W

AnastasiaK
Maria, really wonderful bread, uniform color! It's great that Maxwell's replacement was found.
Lagri
Anastasia, it would seem, you need to be glad that you have found a replacement, but Maxwell is still a pity. So much we suffered with him, experimented. Well, if you meet a cup sometime, I'll buy it anyway. I like Maxwell.
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uniform color!
Yes, there is not even a gap between the roof of the bread and the sides. Still, it depends on how the modes of the bread maker are configured. Smile is in good mood, but not very good in Maxwell. And I also liked the crust of bread in Smiley: thin, crispy. Maxwell is thicker, a lot. I remember that I had to turn off baking earlier so that the crust was thinner.

I baked the bread, which I showed above, on a Smile bread maker, from 300 g of flour, in another bread maker (Starwind 4163, also a very good bread maker, but there are problems with the roof), so the roof of the bread turns from beautifully convex when baking into a flat one, in general. .. falls. This is how it happens with the same bread recipe in different bread makers.


Lagri
Anastasia, but you can see how the bucket from Redmond sits in Maxwell?
AnastasiaK
Bread maker Maxwell MW-3752W
You are welcome! This is how it sits. Higher than native a little, almost flush with the edges. The bucket is of very good quality, bronze inside, the spatula is also good, it mixes well.
Lagri
Anastasia, thanks for the photo! The bucket fits very well in Maxwell. I have such a bucket (bronze), but from the Starwind 4163 bread machine, it fits well into Maxwell, but the lid does not close completely, and decently. The spouse says that you need to remove the handle, then it may close, but it's not the case that a bucket without a handle ... It turns out a bucket from Redmond is a centimeter or two lower than my bronze one.) Okay, I'll look more.

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