Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

[lappl1]

lappl1, Ludmila, I was confused. Rotten granules, it's not clear. I would have taken out 2 hours already.

[Light]

Light, we do not focus on time, but on readiness. Why rotten ones? What did you interfere with? If mixed with a spatula, they can crumble. I only interfere with my hands. I lift the opposite corners of the paper, first some, then others. Tea is poured into the center. then I just level it with my hands. so the granules do not crumble.
In general, get it.
I didn't answer right away, I'm sorry. A strong thunderstorm, downpour, and the Internet is constantly cut down.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Ludmila, I took out the sheet and interfered with my hands. Then put it back in the oven. And the rotten ones, probably, so twisted their meat grinder.

[Light]

Light, nothing, tea will still work. Next time, try twisting in a meat grinder 2 times.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Ludmila, was afraid to overexpose. So that the smell does not disappear

[lappl1]

lappl1, Ludmila, well. I'll try.

[Light]

I was afraid to overexpose. So that the smell does not disappear

Light, well done!

Svetiashka, well done!

[Tiger striped]

Tiger stripedWell, here's another attack ... Have you treated the wound? When it happened, my husband was treated with alcohol, and then they made bandages with levomikol. Everything healed quickly. Get well soon!

I am now in such a wilderness that there are only improvised means. I poured moonshine into the wound. I thought and accepted it internally for balance. Thanks for the sympathy! It has become a little cooler here, now my pear, harvested earlier, is fermented. There is not much of it, I barely managed to build a layer of 5 cm. The temperature in the room is 25, I will check after 5 hours of fermentation, how it smells. But the child has sprinkled cologne everywhere and now it smells of cologne everywhere. I peeled off the remainder of cherry leaves around the house, dried on a sheet, put it in the freezer for the night. If tomorrow I am able, I will go for an apple tree, hence the question: for a apple-cherry mix, what proportions are needed? Or is it all the same, by eye?

Cherries are smaller than apple trees, but in general I made a mono cherry, then you can throw a drop into any seagulls. In general, I really love cherries, so I am shaking over my bush-bush and neighbor.

Yes, we also have very few cherries. I found a lot of irgi and a green, not yellowed pear at the neighbors. Tomorrow I will continue to cut off the irga, I put today's collection in the freezer, I hope it will wait for replenishment.

Something I have nonsense with cherries turned out. She dried out on the table for two hours, then it became too sunny and I put it in the refrigerator in a sheet, then I decided to make it not in mono, but in a mix and mixed with freshly picked leaves of a young wild pear and all this is now in the freezer. Nothing? I didn't ruin her? And in the freezer, as I understand it, freshly picked can lie as long as you like? Tomorrow I want to pick another pear and an apple tree and then dry it for a mix. Maybe I'll still find forest raspberries there, in the yard we have some wild strawberries. But about rowan, I doubt something - add or not, will it give too much bitterness?

Oh, Lyudochka, sorry for being late. I photographed my strawberries, which were "a little under-fermented and a little under-dried". The tea smells and tastes just amazing! Now my favorite. Even a pear and an apple are resting nervously on the sidelines.

Look at the "raw material", do you get the same strawberries?

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Well, brewed.

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[Tiger striped]

Tiger striped, it was necessary to wither the leaves before the freezer, and in general, we always wither!
And in the village tea, I added mountain ash last year, added all sorts of leaves.

Girls, tell me, I've found a lot of viburnum in the forest, with berries. How is she in mono tea? And twist only the leaves or will the berries go there too?

Kalina also added to the village, but without berries, of course.
Girls, a list of leaves on the first page, from which teas were prepared.

[inka_kot]

Look at the "raw material", do you get the same strawberries?

inka_kot, Inessa, my strawberry in the photo is in the recipe. I have it black, but here it is lighter. But it is not important! It is important that you like the tea. The main thing is that the strawberry season is not over yet. It can be done before frost and even after. So, Inessa, make your favorite tea for health!

then I have a nonsense with cherries. She dried out on the table for two hours, then it became too sunny and I put it in the refrigerator in a sheet, then I decided to make it not in mono, but in a mix and mixed with freshly picked leaves of a young wild pear and all this is now in the freezer. Nothing?

Tiger striped, but nothing happened to the cherry. And with a pear ... Why wasn't it dried?

Girls, tell me, I've found a lot of viburnum in the forest, with berries. How is she in mono tea? And twist only the leaves or will the berries go there too?

svetn, Svetlana, Lena has already answered about the viburnum. See on the first page. There is a link to it. It's better not to do it as mono.

Good evening! I have been studying the forum since spring, I made different tea, it seems to work. Now I made a mix of cherry + lemongrass leaves. Lemongrass after the freezer, for some reason it is very wet, scrolled, fermented for 6 hours, dried in the oven at 120, now it is being dried in the dryer, dries for a long time, it smells nice, the color is very dark. In general, there will be a tonic tea)))

[inka_kot]

inka_kot, My strawberry granules are also green. And the brewed tea is of usual tea color. But the aroma is simply unusual. A month later, a caramel smell appeared. And I can't compare with anything - I have never met such a scent.

[inka_kot]

inka_kot, but nothing happened to the cherry. And with a pear ... Why wasn't it dried?svetn,

Because the table was busy. And also because I wanted to get more tomorrow and immediately dry out. Can't you put it in the freezer first and then wither it? Now I have such a collection of raw materials that there is nowhere to dry everything at once. My irga also immediately went into the freezer.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...380.0 here I found a way without withering, immediately with freezing. True, there is only pear, but why not try a mix - pear and cherry? It's just embarrassing that at first I managed to waddle it a little and darken it in the refrigerator. And there is a pear in a pact with two fees - yesterday's (slightly dried) and today, un-dried. The question is - is it worth adding a new collection tomorrow? I wanted another apple and another pear.

[Tiger striped]

Can't you put it in the freezer first and then wither it?

Tiger striped, No you can not. After the freezer, the leaves are destroyed and immediately after thawing, fermentation begins, rather than withering. dry in the fabric, as written in the recipe - no space is needed for this ..

[Katrina7]

Good evening! I have been studying the forum since spring, I made different tea, it seems to work. Now I made a mix of cherry + lemongrass leaves. Lemongrass after the freezer, for some reason it is very wet, scrolled, fermented for 6 hours, dried in the oven at 120, now it is being dried in the dryer, dries for a long time, it smells nice, the color is very dark. In general, there will be a tonic tea)))

Katrina7, good evening! Welcome to tea themes. I am very glad that you are doing well.

And what to do with the fact that immediately got into the freezer without withering?

[Tiger striped]

here I found a way without withering, immediately with freezing. True, there is only pear, but why not try a mix - pear and cherry? It's just embarrassing that at first I managed to waddle it a little and darken it in the refrigerator.And there is a pear in a pact with two fees - yesterday's (slightly dried) and today, un-dried. The question is - is it worth adding a new collection tomorrow? I wanted another apple and another pear.

Tiger striped, I wrote it. But look what kind of tea it is. Sheet. And you make granular. The difference is huge. Moreover, look at the date when that post was written. Since then, a lot has been studied, realized, and with the whole topic we have made sure from our own experience that you ALWAYS NEED TO DRY .. And even in that post it is not written that after freezers they freeze. This is already your idea. And any action in the tea business requires a theoretical foundation. Withering after freezing doesn't fit into any theory.

The question is - is it worth adding a new collection tomorrow? I wanted another apple and another pear.

You can mix whatever you want. But first, wither. And before the freezer, not after.

And what to do with the fact that immediately got into the freezer without withering?

Determine in tea already ... But what to do?

I copied and pasted them from this branch, I don’t remember exactly where it came from: “But if I make leaf tea, then I first freeze the leaves (without withering), then twist, ferment, cut, dry.
The withering process is needed to make it easier to roll the leaves by hand. Fresh leaves are difficult to curl.
And when the leaves are twisted in a meat grinder, a wet mass is obtained. If the leaves are not wilted, the granules will squish during fermentation in the juice. And then tea in the oven will dry longer ...
In general, I wither the leaves only for the "meat grinder" tea. And for leafy I do not wither, since I twist rolls from frozen leaves - it turns out very quickly and easily. And from withered leaves it is difficult for me to twist rolls - my hands get very tired. And I don't have enough strength, the juice from these rolls
squeeze out. So the freezing made my life easier. "
Therefore, I sent everything except the freshly picked cherries to the freezer. This year it’s so dry that it’s unlikely to squish in juice, even if it’s been rolled in a meat grinder. So, now we need to make tea from all this, no longer dry, right? It remains only to decide - sheet or granular. And if sheet, then with kneading, rolls are unlikely to spin.

[Tiger striped]

Tiger striped, I just answered you - it was written a long time ago ... Since then we have made sure that you need to dry all. After all, I did not graduate from tea institutes. And in the internet at that time there was no information about the fermentation of garden sauces, and even now - almost none. That's all on my own experience and studied. Everyone has mistakes. And that was a mistake. Tea is obtained, but from withered leaves it is better! Why? Read the recipe for why withering is necessary. Well, I can’t revise all 708 pages and delete those posts that should be deleted. Read the recipe. I edited it this year, this tea season.

[Tiger striped]

Tiger stripedDo not bother. For the first season I made tea (leaf) without withering. It worked out fine. From now on, wither, and leave this one as it is. It will then mix with other parts and everything will be great.
And if the raw materials are collected, and there is nowhere to dry them, I would put the raw materials in the refrigerator before drying. Not in the freezer, but in the refrigerator

[Tiger striped]

Tiger stripedDo not bother. For the first season I made tea (leaf) without withering. It worked out fine. From now on, wither, and leave this one as it is. It will then mix with other parts and everything will be great.
And if the raw materials are collected, and there is nowhere to dry them, I would put the raw materials in the refrigerator before drying. Not in the freezer, but in the refrigerator

Phew, thanks. This is a thought. Because otherwise I don't understand how you can get the right amount of raw materials. I played goat for an hour and a half with my neighbors, and I gained less than a kilo of cherry leaves. And people here, I read, collect 7 kilos.
And I read the link to the option with immediate freezing on the first page ... Well, I will knead irga and a mixture of pears and cherries for the night and dry large-leaved ones in the morning, I like this even more.I’ll just dry the unfrozen cherries, put them in the refrigerator in a bag, and tomorrow I’ll get them.

I’ll just dry the unfrozen cherries, put them in the refrigerator in a bag, and tomorrow I’ll get them.

Alternatively, wither this batch and put it in the freezer. Then dry the next one and back into the freezer. The freezing period does not matter. Then defrost everything together and ferment.
I also collect a little. And I ferment in a relatively small amount. There have been no global "punctures" yet

Probably, I will spread it out in the morning. Although the table is large, it doesn't work out in a thin layer, and I won't stir it up at night. Unless you wrap it in sausage, roll it up and leave it overnight?

Why not wrap it up? Quite an option. Choose only natural rags, for example, an old sheet

I wither on a children's duvet cover, it's the size of a table. Congratulations on your first small victory. I just dried a wild pear in the airfryer. I did everything wrong again - she wandered from withering into the freezer and back, for the first 10 minutes I dried, forgetting to insert the skewer, and, it seems, dried it a little, although I reduced the time and temperature (starting from 125). In general, it hangs in a tied bag, and I poured the dust remaining in the flask into a teapot spoon and kept it in boiling water for 4-5 minutes. The color turned out like chifir! And although there are no special flavors - not surprising with my mistakes - the taste of normal tea. And the color! I twisted it through a shallow grate in the absence of a large one, fermented in a barn from 11 am to half past seven in the evening at a temperature of 21 degrees, then in the house at 25.

[Tiger striped]

Unless you wrap it in sausage, roll it up and leave it overnight?

Tiger striped, I wrote about it in the recipe, and in the answer to you, and you all resist. This is the most problem-free option for withering - the leaves do not dry out, they do not take up space, you do not need to stir them up. Don't reinvent the wheel. Read the recipe (everything is written there) and choose the option that is more convenient for you.

[Tiger striped]

Congratulations on your first small victory

Tiger striped, Well, thank God! Congratulations on your good tea!

Thank you. Yes, I do not resist! I'm just overwhelmed with information! And since I now also have an emergency job - I don't remember when I was on vacation without work - I allow all the punctures I can.
Reread about drying in "sausage". It says here that after 5-6 hours it is necessary to check and if the leaves are not wilted, transfer to a dry cloth. At night I will not shift ... But it is very unlikely that the cherry will give such juice that this duvet cover will become wet.

[Tiger striped]

Tiger striped, well, straight, it hurts to read your posts! It's that simple! Gathered - wrapped IMMEDIATELY in a cloth tightly and put in a cool place. Collected more? I wrapped it up again. The main thing is not to forget to rewrap it in fresh fabric over time. And then it is done raw. Unfolded - looked - if wilted, poured into a separate bag and into the freezer. Got enough for the party? Got it out, defrost it, ferment it, dry it (if you can't dry it right away, put it in the refrigerator for not too long, otherwise it will turn sour.
WHAT IS DIFFICULT? In order not to forget what, I write memos on my mobile organizer. With repetitions! Better every two to five minutes.
And there will be no punctures.

Dearie, don't worry like that! At first everything is always difficult for me. You look, I'll get used to it later - there is still a week before leaving. )))))))) I've read how many people get on a penny-board and immediately go, and I tried for two weeks, then I broke my arm, then I skated in a cast and fell in it many times ... But I learned -So, that's with tea, you see, it will cost.

[Tiger striped]

Tiger striped, good luck dear! And delicious tea!

[Tiger striped]

It says here that after 5-6 hours it is necessary to check and if the leaves have not wilted, transfer to a dry cloth. At night I will not shift ... But it is very unlikely that the cherry will give such juice that this duvet cover will become wet.

Tiger striped, but the trick is that you don't have to get up to this "sausage" at night. As soon as they got up in the morning, they checked. Nothing will be done to them overnight. In the morning they checked for dryness. If you still need to dry, then transfer to a dry cloth. If not, go straight to the freezer. Well, there already, as Radushka wrote to you. Good luck!

Well, why doesn't it work out as planned? Gathered tea from wild birds using the method of Zechariah to make. Dry, freeze, sweat, freeze, twirl with pears. The first time I decided to do a short fermentation for 3 hours. Everyone praises, but I have never done it. And according to the plan I have time before dinner.
As in that saying "" Grandma wondered in the evening, got up in the morning - there is nothing to do. "
How snow on your head guests! And I have a tomato, tomatoes in filling, and a biscuit. Bring Mom back. And prepare food for them, they have a fast. Thank you in the freezer.
After 5 hours I remembered about tea, put it in the refrigerator. After another 5 hours I remembered about tea - now I'm drying, I'm sitting waiting. A good oven with a timer - does not allow you to forget and fall asleep.
But the aroma is in the house ..... The smell of childhood - black pears! There would be more land planted! And more ranetki! Sugar apples!

In general, a planned economy is not for me. Only an emergency! And every day.

I found the link on the first page of the revelation of this Zechariah, who did almost the same thing with the pear as I did "On Sunday evening I brought a leaf, it remained in the bags for the night in the kitchen, and lay there until the next evening. In the morning I took it out and sent it to the sun, I don’t remember exactly here, but for about three hours somewhere he basked in the sun. Then I left it in a bag in the kitchen and there it lay until the evening and again in the freezer. In the morning I took out a couple more hours he warmed himself in the sun. After already in a meat grinder .. as a result, he received a leaf of this color with a wonderful dark shade. The leaf is 100% dark. " Only I did not keep it in the sun and I have no aroma, but there is an unobtrusive soft taste.
Vasyutka, as I understand you about rush jobs ...

[Tiger striped]

I found the link on the first page of the revelation of this Zechariah, who did almost the same thing with a pear as I did

Tiger stripedis not the same at all! Zakhar does not take the leaves out of the package after the freezer, but sends them directly to the sun in the package. Then in the same bag again in the freezer. And so several times. Zakhar has a completely different technology. Try to do what he does. Many are happy with this tea.

[Vasyutka]

Well, why doesn't it work out as planned? ... In general, the planned economy is not for me. Only an emergency! And every day.

Vasyutka, but you have fun! And, most importantly, everything works out!

She kept in the sun in two bags after freezing - she sweated. I didn't get it into the world! I stuck my nose in - the smell was stunning!
I liked the method. Sweating draws the scent out of the leaf. Usually, during fermentation, I do not feel a change in smell.
But what will the finished tea show? I wanted a short fermentation, but it turned out 10 hours.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Ludmila,

Vasyutka, but you live cheerfully!

That's for sure! The husband announced - tomorrow we are going to the river for fishing, and from there to the Cossack festival!

Irga I immediately went to the freezer without withering. Does it make sense to put it in the sun in a package? Or the whole trick of the Zakhariev method is that it starts with exposure to the sun, and then into the freezer?

[Vasyutka]

But what will the finished tea show? I wanted a short fermentation, but it turned out 10 hours.

Vasyutka, ready-made tea will show itself perfectly, do not even hesitate! You are right - this method activates everything in the leaves that can be activated. Ah, yes, Zakhari, and, yes, well done!

[Tiger striped]

Irga I immediately went to the freezer without withering. Does it make sense to put it in the sun in a package? Or the whole trick of the Zakhariev method is that it starts with exposure to the sun, and then into the freezer?

Tiger striped, I have not yet made tea using this method.I really want to, but so far circumstances do not allow. But I think you can.

The husband announced - tomorrow we are going to the river for fishing, and from there to the Cossack festival!

Vasyutka, Natasha, I wish you a great rest! You earned it!

[lappl1]

lappl1, Ludmila,

Ah, yes, Zakhari, and, yes, well done!

Medal! Not less!

In general, tomorrow I decided to make a mixture of cherries and pears in large leaves without wilting. And I will try a bag of irga a la Zakhary, but starting from freezing and not as long as he did. My time is running out and I can't keep in the kitchen for days.