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Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class) (page 252)

lappl1
Quote: inka_kot
girls, and no one tried to make from linden leaves? I've dried the flowers. I think I can also use the leaves?
inka_kot, the recipe says about linden. At the very beginning, where it says about the principles of plant selection.
Quote: Lucilia
Empty lesson, I made a 2 liter bottle. Nothing !!!!
Lucilia, and if I had read the recipe more carefully, I would not have wasted my time.
Girls!!!!!! We read the materiel, as the respected by all Admin says !!!!!.
Radushka
Redhead,
Quote: Redhead
I didn't think about pallets
I have a Shivaki dryer. Lattices. There are no pallets. First, I covered it with two layers of markle. I was worried about shaking out the tea crumbs. And the tea got strings. Then I bought two types of mesh. The one that is sold for the windows (from the forest) in garden and country shops. And the one sold in the fabric departments. The window is more suitable for tea. But, the edges have to be walked through to get sealed. And another larger cell. It is convenient to dry berries and loose tea. You do not need to solder anything. Both meshes can withstand a temperature of 100 without deformation. I don’t think anymore.
Radushka
paramed1,
Quote: paramed1
This will be tea for special occasions!
MOCKERY!!! from your side
inka_kot
Quote: lappl1
inka_kot, the recipe says about linden. At the very beginning, where it says about the principles of plant selection.
Lyudmila, thank you! I read your materiel several times, but apparently I missed it. (((Now I found it and read it again. Everything is clear and detailed. Thanks again.
Quote: lappl1

Conclusion: I'm not going to do linden anymore! And I do not advise you.
Luna Nord
Quote: lappl1
Lucilia, if I had read the recipe more carefully, I would not have wasted my time
Moreover, when I was picking up the leaves, I was bitten by a bumblebee .... very painful and for a long time!
Elena Kadiewa
Tonya, what's wrong with your tea? I don’t see the report!
Redhead
Quote: Radushka

Redhead, I have a Shivaki dryer. Lattices. There are no pallets. First, I covered it with two layers of markle. Tired of shaking out the tea crumbs. And the tea got strings. Then I bought two types of mesh. The one that is sold for the windows (from the forest) in garden and country shops. And the one sold in the fabric departments. The window is more suitable for tea. But, the edges must be walked with fire to be sealed. And another larger cell. It is convenient to dry berries and loose tea. You do not need to solder anything. Both meshes can withstand a temperature of 100 without deformation. I don’t think anymore.


Thanks for the idea) I also thought that, in theory, once the grate, then the air should circulate. And the grid will be just right. It remains to buy an airfryer because in the oven I have no strength to dry. If you make a low fire, it may go out. And I don't know the temperature. I can only determine above a hundred or below.
iriska3420
Redhead, The grill in the airfryer is very large. It will not be possible to dry not only granules, but also sheet. This device itself is very good, but it has a short lifespan. The heating element itself breaks down very quickly. And for drying tea, an electric dryer is better suited. They are both inexpensive and last for many years.
paramed1
iriska3420, but it is impossible to reach the temperature required for proper drying of tea in the dryer! Well, at least 100 is needed, not 75 dryers. There - only if you dry it.
And about the quick failure - I have 2 Hotters, I bought the first one in 2010, plows several times a week.The second one is a year older, works from May to October every day on the sterilization of a heap of conservation and on drying everything and hibernates in an unheated house. Both are safe and sound.
Regarding the wire rack - tea in AG is dried on a metal tray, not on a wire rack. Dries quickly.
Serenity
Ladies, I'm completely confused about something. Freezing - does it replace wilting or not? Can defrosted sheets be simply wrinkled and cut?
And do you wash the raw materials? there is dust and in general any small insect
niamka
Quote: Serenity
Ladies, I'm completely confused about something. Freezing - does it replace wilting or not? Can defrosted sheets be simply wrinkled and cut?
And do you wash the raw materials? there is dust and in general any small insect
Before freezing, you still need to wither. During withering, the insects will scatter. Leaves are only washed if they are dirty. And it’s better not to wash.
iriska3420
Veronica, I dry my tea in e-mail. dryer. Thirty minutes at a temperature of 70 grams, and then at a temperature of 30. My teas are 90% ready-made. And then I dry them at room temperature for a day or two. Regarding the airfryer - I will only be glad for your technique. My two served no more than two years.
filirina
Regarding the dryer, I agree 100%, I threw it into the dryer and no dancing with a tambourine! A couple of hours and you're done!
Serenity
Quote: niamka
Before freezing, you still need to wither.
Thank you, why freeze then?
Radushka
Olga,
Quote: Serenity
why freeze then?
Have you read the recipe on the first page?
The leaves can be frozen immediately after withering. This is an optional process, but it facilitates further processing of the leaves in preparation for fermentation. During freezing, cell membranes burst and juice is released, which is what we need. The withered leaves are put in a bag and sent to the freezer for a day or two. The longer the leaves are in the freezer, the easier they will be processed later. The leaves can be stored in the freezer for several months.

Plus, raspberries and black currants don't seem to be cooked any differently. (read on the same first page)
lappl1
Quote: Serenity
Freezing - does it replace withering or not?
Serenity, no, it does not replace. The recipe says why - excess juice will not allow fermentation to take place correctly. Radushka, Natasha, thank you for helping with the answer.
Quote: Serenity
And do you wash the raw materials? there is dust and in general any small insect
Serenity, and about this is in the recipe.
Well, girls, dear! Please read the recipe. Everything is there.
Serenity
Radushka, lappl1, thanks, I'll go read it again
lappl1
Quote: iriska3420
I dry my tea in e-mail. dryer. Thirty minutes at a temperature of 70 grams, and then at a temperature of 30. My teas are 90% ready-made. And then I dry them at room temperature for a day or two. Regarding the airfryer - I will only be glad for your technique. My two served no more than two years.
Quote: filirina
Regarding the dryer, I agree 100%, I threw it into the dryer and no dancing with a tambourine! A couple of hours and you're done!
iriska3420, filirina, girls, you can, of course, dry the tea in the dryer. And just in the air. But it will not acquire those taste and aromatic properties that it acquires at a temperature of 100 *. I posted excerpts from a book about tea in the comments. The Chinese wrote. He explained very clearly the essence of each stage of making tea, all the nuances of its preparation. These excerpts can be read by following the links at the end of the recipe in the Notes. Drying is also written about. Here, I brought this info here:

DRYING


The last technological process for processing tea leaves is drying in a stream of hot air. Her the goal is to fix in the tea leaf the properties that were formed in it during fermentation, by stopping the work of enzymes under the influence of high temperature... Excess moisture is also removed during drying.
The tea leaf is usually dried twice, and the final moisture content of the sheet after the first drying corresponds to 18%, and after the second - 3–5%.The drying quality is influenced by the duration of the process, the drying temperature, the speed and amount of air in the dryer, and the thickness of the sheet layer.
When drying tea very quickly, using mainly high temperatures (above 100 ° C), good results cannot be obtained as with very slow drying and very low temperatures (below 75 ° C). The use of high temperatures during drying significantly reduces the quality of tea, since its aroma is significantly reduced due to the loss of essential oils and sublimation of caffeine. However to obtain a "stable" product it is necessary dry at a temperature of at least 76.7 ° C, so Optimum should be considered temperatures during the first drying 90-95 C, with the second - 82-87 C.
In the drying machine, under the influence of heat, a bouquet of tea is finally formed - its most complex flavoring complex. The most noticeable change in tea during drying is the loss of that specific odor that was acquired by the leaf during fermentation and reaches its maximum by the end of this process. Freshly dried tea is almost odorless, since during drying there is a significant loss of aromatic principles (essential oils, volatile aldehydes, etc.).
Vasyutka
Radushka, a question about currants.
As I understand it, everyone prepares black currant tea. I grow golden, someone calls it forest. I love her more. On some website I read that she had poisonous buds and young leaves and were not used for brewing.
Has anyone made golden currant tea?
lappl1
Vasyutka, although the question is not for me, but I will answer. There have never been any reviews about golden currant, but red and white tea is not tasty. There is no smell at all. These leaves can be added to mixes for volume.
You will smell the collected leaves in the bag. If there is a strong and tasty aroma, like black currant, then you can try it.
Vasyutka
lappl1, I taste the leaves. Or rather, the aftertaste.
Cherries have a sweetish sticky taste, irgi has a delicious, peculiar, pear. Viburnum doesn't like bitter. The peach has a bitter taste, but the aftertaste is pleasant.
By the way, yesterday we went to the place where Cossack juniper grows. I tasted the berry. The aftertaste was awesome all the way back. The chewing gums are resting.
A friend remembered that the hedgehog in the fog from the cartoon was drinking tea from juniper twigs. I don’t remember something.
I went to Wikipedia - the leaves are poisonous. I don't understand.
Luna Nord
Today, on Channel 1, on "good morning" they showed an enterprise for the preparation of willow tea. Something they were wise there. First, of course, they dried, and then dried, and then, (for some reason, the raw product after drying) rolled the leaves on special. mechanisms. Moreover, drying t was called 50 degrees. That is, they showed a "changeling" so that no one would understand anything. After drying, drying, not fermentation, although this word flashed somewhere in the background. In short, everything is confused. I looked and was constantly indignant, why confuse people? Or just edited the video like that?
lappl1
Ludmila, my husband told me this story. And about the temperature - too. In industrial tea preparations, drying machines are used, which are capable of drying the raw material at 30 * in 20 minutes. This is not possible with us - the tea will run out.
And then, in Russia, tea was dried in Russian stoves at a decent temperature. And Odintsov, whose article I referred to, also writes not 50 *. And then what else to do with your own experience? And, most importantly, the experience of the Chinese? They know everything about tea and consider temperatures below 76 * harmful for tea. I dried in a dryer at 70 *. I didn't like this tea.
Here is a snippet from an article by Odintsov published in the journal Science and Life.

Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

In the evening I watched this story on the website of Channel 1. And I understood everything. These guys make green Ivan tea using this technology - withering - drying at 50 * - curling - final drying. Now everything is clear. They have no fermentation, just as there is no fermentation for green tea.
Radushka
Nataliya,
Quote: Vasyutka
A friend remembered that the hedgehog in the fog from the cartoon was drinking tea from juniper twigs.
Laugh ... Gin is a juniper tincture, if you do not delve into the specifics of the technological process.
I don't know how things are with tea, but ... it's better to dry the berries just in the air (they dry themselves perfectly) and add to the tea when brewing. Leaves are suitable only with branches for a bath - beautiful brooms are obtained. A bit BDSM-ovish, if uncautious. True, I have a tall juniper growing. It's not prickly at all.
Quote: Vasyutka
Has anyone made golden currant tea?
I didn't make tea. I tried to make wine once. But, I liked it more from white with the addition of raspberries for color and light aroma.
The leaves and berries of colored currants are not aromatic in themselves. I don't know how it will be in the tea. Try it, tell us

Subtracted that any juniper berries, except for ordinary ones, are poisonous. This is true? Where is our pharmacist? I've been eating berries for 10 years now. True, 5 pieces a day, but ... almost all year round.
YuLi
Hello! Are you accepting a new one?
Thanks for this thread !!! I registered only because of tea, although I have been on the site often and for a long time.
Last year, homemade people made tea from fireweed, and this year I joined in, I master all the processes, I dry everything in a row for the second week
Just tried freshly dried sea buckthorn leaf tea, very nice! This time I did it with fermentation, after drying it and kneading it with my hands until sticky. Last year it was dried as a medicine, it is very, very useful!
Vasyutka
Radushka,
Tea from juniper branches - gin - hedgehog in the fog.
We also make tea and become obsessed. We tear up different leaves and no longer know what else we can make tea from. We reached the wheatgrass.
Today, after reading on the forum, with the words of Carlson * Live with you, start eating all kinds of nasty things * flooded into the garden, found old berry leaves, brewed them.
Do we make teas for sure?
Radushka
Vasyutka,
Quote: Vasyutka
Do we make teas for sure?
Exactly.
By the way, did you like the badan? (the leaves should have been brown, like rotten).
I like it. She tore her hair, that for 10 years she removed old "rotten" leaves every spring.
And the roots of wheatgrass are very useful as medicine. I pulled my brother after the rocket fuel with them.
Vasyutka
RadushkaI'm kidding .... My husband and I have been dissatisfied with teas from the store for several years now. I ordered Ivan-tea, now we have been drinking it for a year, well, and then I got to your forum and "Ostap suffered ...", while I just made three teas. There are a bunch of packages in the freezer - cherries, grapes, blackberries, ... and a lot of plans.
Yes, I brewed incense from rotten leaves. I walk and drink until I understand. The husband will come to drink the potion, he will appreciate it.
Radushka
Vasyutka,
Quote: Vasyutka
huge plans
, yes, I realized that you were joking.
Today all her stocks, which were frozen until better times, were twisted in an hour. Pah-pah-pah! The meat grinder works like a beast! Still the rains ended, it would be very good. And then the third day I can not go to collect raspberries! And so the berry will only go for wine and tincture, because it is wet, and you can't collect that!
lappl1
Quote: YuLi
Hello! Are you accepting a new one?
YuLi, Hello! Welcome to tea themes. And stay with us.
Quote: YuLi
Just tried freshly dried sea buckthorn leaf tea, very nice! This time I did it with fermentation, after drying it and kneading it with my hands until sticky. Last year it was dried as a medicine, it is very, very useful!
We were all not happy about fermented sea buckthorn. Maybe you will be better?
Quote: YuLi
Last year it was dried as a medicine, it is very, very useful!
As a reminder, don't rely on fermented teas as medicine. Fermentation reduces and, at times, changes the medicinal properties of plants (see Notes in the recipe).
Radushka
Well, what ... today my daughter-in-law and I compared different fermentation times for leafy mono-raspberries.
We unanimously concluded that fermentation less than 12 hours is not suitable for us. But the daily ...the most IT! Astringent, beautiful and light aftertaste.
paramed1
Well, I'm a pharmacist, who called me? In medicine, common juniper is used, sometimes Daurian juniper, they are completely harmless. The cones are poisonous in the Cossack juniper, which is also found in the wild, and is well poisonous. Ornamental junipers are best not to eat - who knows what they crossed with what. Yes, and there is no need to forget about contraindications.
Radushka
Good day, Veronica!
Quote: paramed1
Ornamental junipers are better not to eat - who knows what they crossed with what

Late. I've gotten used to it for 10 years. My juniper is almost 70 years old. He was imprisoned in the 46th.
paramed1
Radushka, I think this is the common juniper. We have a huge amount of it in the surrounding forests. My sister once, about 10 years ago, dug up some bushes and planted them in Moscow near the kindergarten where she worked. Now it has grown so that people do not recognize a juniper in it, they consider it a cypress ... And you can flavor tea with juniper berries. And yours will do too.
Radushka
Quote: paramed1
Radushka, I think this is the common juniper
no. His leaves are different. I would say that they look like thuya. Only more tender.
Scarecrow

I ate so much that ... For several years I kept staring at Koporsky tea. Then my sister started doing it, but I still couldn't get myself together. Now I am ready: I ​​went for some fireweed, laid out to dry. I will report on the results!))

The year before last, I collected a lot of lindens (in the sense, linden flowers). No one really began to drink it, and threw away the whole pillowcase in the summer. I don't know if my homemade tea will take root, but I really want to. to take root. Because it's insanely useful, I know ...

Radushka
Nata,
Quote: Scarecrow
Nobody really started drinking it, and threw away the whole pillowcase in the summer.
well, they threw it out in vain. They did not drink, so it was possible to rinse the hair, wash. Linden tea is an excellent remedy for dry hair and dry skin. At least hand baths.
Redhead
Quote: YuLi

Hello! Are you accepting a new one?
Thanks for this thread !!! I registered only because of tea, although I have been on the site often and for a long time.
Last year, homemade people made tea from fireweed, and this year I joined in, I master all the processes, I dry everything in a row for the second week
Just tried freshly dried sea buckthorn leaf tea, very nice! This time I did it with fermentation, after drying it and kneading it with my hands until sticky. Last year it was dried as a medicine, it is very, very useful!

Welcome. And I registered on the forum in search of recipes for a multicooker. And in the end I got hooked on tea. Now almost what I read is tea themes) I used to love adding all kinds of leaves to tea. But I bought all sorts of store teas. And I didn't even know that you can make tea yourself. And thanks to this topic, I discovered so many new things for myself.
Scarecrow
Quote: Radushka

Nata, well, they threw it out in vain. They did not drink, so it was possible to rinse the hair, wash. Linden tea is an excellent remedy for dry hair and dry skin. At least hand baths.

I just won't do it. I have ready-made means to use forever there is not enough time and memory, but to make a decoction. then to rinse their hair, etc. - this is definitely not about me!)))
Radushka
Quote: Scarecrow
I have ready-made means to use forever there is not enough time and memory, but to make a decoction. then to rinse their hair, etc. - this is definitely not about me!)))
So there are two options - either the hair is very good, or bald
Scarecrow
Radushka,

Closer to bald. It's just that I don't care in terms of cares / manicures / cosmetologists and other hairdressers))). Hopeless. I do only the necessary minimum. But today she again clung to her husband - let's go after the linden tree (it has already bloomed here). This is all terrible greed!)))
Radushka
Quote: Scarecrow
This is all terrible greed!
Familiar feeling. I'm bald too. But, my bald head smells like weeds. And the heels of mashed potatoes
All! Shut up, otherwise they will beat us for flooding off topic!
Natalia Koval
lappl1, Lyudmila, I made it all the same: yahoo: His is tea made from leaves with fresh berries!) The granules turned out to be just excellent, it has been fermented for three hours now. The scent was super-duper even when scrolling, I hope that the end result will please me too
Radushka
Natalia Koval,
Quote: Natalya Koval
I hope the end result will please me too
if everything works out, can you share the exact technology?
Natalia Koval
Radushka, of course. I photographed everything for the report)
MariV
I have been looking closely at this process for almost two years. I didn't even have enough patience to read to the end - when I am a "multi-book" I cannot read.
And then she pulled herself together, read it and began to do it.
I can’t stop.
A very exciting process, delicious result.
Quite by accident I changed the process - lightly fried it for 4-5 minutes in a grass grass, after drying. And this tea turned out to be the most delicious!
Radushka
Olga,
Quote: MariV
lightly fried for 4-5 minutes after drying in a herb
why AFTER? Fry BEFORE
MariV
Radushka,
By chance changed the process
- Did you read? This is not on purpose. But I really liked this tea!

I have a large Manchurian aralia tree. The leaves are like burdock! Moreover, it blooms generously. Very hands were itching to collect tea. Well, I carefully read everything on the internet. Yes, there are recommendations to cook and fry young leaves. But in the same place "everything - both leaves and stems - are poisonous"! I collected it anyway, cook it - for cosmetic purposes it will do!
iriska3420
I just read it in the news feed: A drink familiar to everyone from childhood seems safe only at first glance. In fact, any type of tea has several unpleasant characteristics. First, tea is addictive. Of course, it cannot be classified as a full-fledged drug, but tea addiction is a very real phenomenon. Moreover, tea fans need more and more "dose" and they begin to brew an ever stronger drink, thereby increasing the negative effect on the body.
Secondly, tea contains caffeine and theophylline - substances that actively affect the nervous and cardiovascular systems. This makes the drink extremely undesirable for hypotensive patients, hypertensive patients, pregnant and lactating women, as well as for people with diseases of the nervous system.

Thirdly, a film forms on the surface of the tea within 20 minutes after preparation, in which pathogens begin to actively multiply.
MariV
iriska3420, Irina, maybe ....

Fireweed tea lowers blood pressure and has a mild sedative effect. Checked on my husband and myself.

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