Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class

Dispersed!

Posted Monday 13 Mar 2017 02:17 PM

And we warned, this is an infectious occupation!

[Wozik]

If the tea is not left to mature for 2 days after drying, then immediately pack it in a container without air.
Will he suffocate?

Wozik, Misha, will suffocate! Drying is a must! And there are not 2 days, but more. Depends on weather and air humidity. Sometimes it has to hang for a week. And sometimes this is not enough if the weather is damp. then I turn on the dryer and dry it.
There is a lot of residual moisture, especially in granulated tea. We cannot feel and see it. The tea should rustle ... Then it is dry.

[Yuri K]

but the branches of herbalists on the forum are not a case?

Yuri K, no, there is no such branch.
But Lena is right. We have specialists. If you are worried about something, ask. The answer will be qualified.

[Wozik]

Wozik, MishaAs before, we do not have a consensus about the storage of tea. My most fragrant tea in cans of 500 gr and 250 gr. In the glass, under the screw caps, gasps, curls up. I don't store it in plastic or in a vacuum - the stench is even worse than in glass

[Citizen]

I drink from the store ... very good.

Citizen, yes, yes, just a little bit left! Better do it yourself than spend money on the store. And yours will be better, definitely better.

[Wozik]

Wozik, Misha, will suffocate! Drying is a must! And there are not 2 days, but more. Depends on weather and air humidity. Sometimes it has to hang for a week. And sometimes this is not enough if the weather is damp. then I turn on the dryer and dry it.
There is a lot of residual moisture, especially in granulated tea. We cannot feel and see it. The tea should rustle ... Then it is dry.

Thank you!
My tea after drying 50 degrees (final) does not smell.
I reason that there is no moisture there. And if I finish drying on trays in the apartment, he picks up moisture from the air.

Posted Monday, 13 Mar 2017 2:23 pm

Wozik, MishaAs before, we do not have a consensus about the storage of tea. My most fragrant tea in cans of 500 gr and 250 gr. In the glass, under the screw caps, gasps, curls up. I don't store it in plastic or in a vacuum - the stench is even worse than in glass

Did you finish drying afterwards? And how was Ivan-tea dried and at what temperature?

[Tricia]

I don't store it in plastic or in a vacuum - the stench is even worse than in glass

Tricia, Nastya, well, with the stench in the plastic, you are that ... got excited ... n - this is for something else, but not for mine, for example, tea in a plastic container. There was never a stench. The aroma is also strong. But after pouring into a tin can, it gets even better.
I won't say about banks. I described in that post the opinions of others who like to store in banks.

Dispersed? .. but then read the article. A man makes tea from Jerusalem artichoke in the same way, so I want to try it.
And on storage, how many disputes have already been in the subject?
Personally, I store in large sealed plastic containers and glass jars with a screw, and nothing goes bad. Provided that the raw materials are perfectly dry, so that the mold does not go. In my apartment, the humidity is high in non-sealed tin cans, there is "enough" moisture and there is mold.

[Wozik]

My tea after drying 50 degrees (final) does not smell.

Wozik, Misha, properly dried tea immediately after drying and should not smell (I wrote about this in the recipe). It is then, on dry fermentation, he gains aroma.

I reason that there is no moisture there.

There is moisture there.Are you aware that the air in an apartment never has zero humidity? This humidity does not allow the tea to dry absolutely ...

properly dried tea immediately after drying and should not smell

If tea is sent for storage smelling, then it is not completely dried. And the likelihood that he will suffocate or become moldy is very high. It will also acquire a fishy smell ...

[be sure to finish drying]

Did you finish drying afterwards? And how was Ivan-tea dried and at what temperature?

First, I subject my tea to shock drying-roasting in the oven at 150 grams, then at 80 I bring it to a semi-dry state and then be sure to finish drying on sheets of paper at least a week before rustling! And even longer - I keep it in a pillowcase for another week. My apartment is warm, south-facing, so it doesn't pick up moisture from the air.
You shouldn't believe Ludmila, drying is a very important stage! If you read our topic again, you will see how much tea the people have got moldy in the jars due to the fact that they hurried, did not dry it and put it in the jars without drying it.

About the stench in plastic is strictly IMHO. I am not campaigning for anyone, I just consider it my duty to warn that this happens.
Lyudochka, I conducted an experiment: I divided one dried batch into two equal parts. One in plastic, the other in a tin. Plastic smells much worse for me! I could not drink this tea. In a tin can, the smell is good, not raisins, of course, but the smell of good black tea is there. Maybe I have plastic containers of poor quality, what does the plastic give an additional smell?
My husband and some friends tried to delicately hint to me, maybe I had a shift during pregnancy. But this chemically incomprehensible smell infuriated me before, during and after pregnancy. I very much react to such smells ...

Nastenka, maybe it’s true, your plastic was not ice? Mine is absolutely odorless.
I vote for metal cans with all my hands and feet. And I will acquire them whenever possible. But so far I haven't collected so much to pack all the tea (20 kg) in them. Therefore, I found a way out, which I wrote about on the last page. Store in food grade disposable plastic containers. First, I close each container with cling film, and then with my own lid. This achieves tightness. Well, for consumption I pour it into metal cans. Tea becomes more aromatic in just a couple of weeks. But metal cans are enough for me to keep the aged tea much longer - a couple of months or more. This is how I save myself.

I can't wait this year, I want to try to make a dairy May.

if you like very delicate tea, then May will suit you.
Two years ago, we prepared a lot of tea in May, this year we will harvest as usual in the summer. For our taste, May is rather weak against summer.
I store all my tea in glass jars, does not choke or mold.

lulu2015 I have Ariston with convection, when the door is opened, the oven does not turn off, but turns off only when it reaches the operating temperature, then turns off ... The first year I just tried to dry in the oven in this mode with the door CLOSED at first. During the drying process, he turned off the oven and opened the door ... and so on in a circle. I didn't finish the first batch ... I was cut off to sleep. In the morning I finished drying it all the same. The second batch has already got used to it in a similar way. But, all the same mutually, total contral is tiresome. Subsequently began to dry in e-mail. dryer with warm air supply, very convenient. If there are small tea leaves, then drying in a dryer with lower heating elements should be done carefully, since when drying out, tea leaves can fall through and fall on the heating elements.

Added on Monday 13 March 2017 09:27 PM

Two years ago we prepared a lot of tea in May,

marika33 Marina, can you please tell me how to guess the time for picking May tea? Everyone writes about subtle scent. In general, I like it stronger and more patient, maybe I'll try to fry it, although I never did it, I always tried to keep the maximum useful.

[Garik]

Garik, forgive me for getting in. About May tea: how I fried it, fried it - it does not become more tart or darker, for the life of me! All the same sweetish honey smell, slight sourness in taste, and the color of yellow tea!

people praise, but I don't like

And the name "May" is very conditional: it means tea from delicate leaves, collected in a light green panicle. Here in St. Petersburg and in June you can find one. And if you notice a clearing and cut off the first batch of tops, then in July, when new shoots grow, you can make such "May" tea.

Now I'm drinking July - the color is like shoe polish, the smell of good black tea, it tastes like with rosehip and hawthorn - a little sour and tart. This is a tea for me.

Posted Monday 13 Mar 2017 9:56 PM

Nastenka, maybe it’s true, your plastic was not ice?

Lyuda, yes, there is such a possibility. We need to buy new banks and conduct a new experiment!

Anastasia, you won't fit in at all! We all communicate here. And some do not bow at all. Thanks again for your valuable advice and opinions!
But ... not convinced)))) I'll go and try. Even if it does not work out, I will not be disappointed, I gave myself such an installation in advance.

[Garik]

not convinced))))

Garik, not even in my thoughts!
She herself wanted to make this tea darker, but no, you can't trample on nature! It's just that there are no tannins in the young leaves, there will be no dark tea from them, no matter how I tried. And milkiness, as in uuluns, there are only hints, at least in my teas.

Even If it does not work out, I will not be disappointed, I gave myself such an installation in advance.

No no no! No negative attitudes!
If it turns out great, but with a different, unexpected taste, we will rejoice and conduct a new successful experiment!

But I was asked yesterday a question, is it possible to add lemon to such teas? Will the taste of Ivan tea itself go away, or even worse, it will change to disgust, because lemon juice is acid. Or add milk. And I don’t know what to say ...

I added lemon and honey, my family and I like it, but it's a matter of taste))

[Yuri K]

But I was asked yesterday a question, is it possible to add lemon to such teas? Will the taste of Ivan tea itself go away, or even worse, it will change to disgust, because lemon juice is acid. Or add milk. And I don’t know what to say ...

Yuri K, our tea cannot be spoiled - neither during preparation, nor during consumption. I myself drink tea without additives, but I know that it is recommended to drink it with milk for weakened people. Lovers of lemon tea should also like it. I don't like lemon at all. The husband loves. He puts lemon in tea and drinks with pleasure.
In general, try it - there is lemon and milk in every home. You can practice with a cup of tea.

In general, try it - there is lemon and milk in every home. You can practice with a cup of tea.

Will be done!

[Deer Emerald]

So now I am enjoying a real, fragrant, wonderful Ivan tea! Yesterday I received a parcel with him from our Deer Emerald
Well, it's finally, such a class!
So far I do not want to add anything to it, because its taste is already superb, well, perhaps with one ... two ... three

[Yuri K]

Will be done!

Yuri K, then share your impressions, please ...

from and I now enjoy real, fragrant, wonderful Ivan-tea! Yesterday I received a parcel with him from our Olenka Izumrud
Well, it's finally, such a class!

Tatochka, how happy I am for you !!! You also joined our Vanya!
Thank you Olenka-Emerald for this !

well, maybe with one candy ... two ... three

Cake is okay too ...

the question was asked, is it possible to add lemon to such teas?

My husband drinks mostly with lemon. Brews a lot and puts them in the refrigerator. And during the day he drinks chilled.

I would like to share how I design a gift box and at the same time inform those who are intended to receive tea as a gift.Printout on ordinary office paper (or colored) + figured hole punch "Leaf".

Lyudmila, I agree with you: Ivan-Tea is beautiful in its purest form. I add a little sugar to "squeeze out" a light honey aroma. Well, a little more currant leaf, in my opinion, does not spoil the sepals of cloudberries.

[Elena-Borisenok]

In the topic "tea from the leaves of garden and wild plants" I left a small report on the tea I received, the parcel arrived today from Elena-Borisenok

[Creamy]

I would like to share how I design a gift box and at the same time inform those who are intended to receive tea as a gift. Printout on ordinary office paper (or color) + curly hole punch "Leaf".

Creamy, Alevtina, a great gift! Great design! I didn't even know about such a hole punch. You need to look with us. Thank you for sharing your way of decorating gifts. I can imagine what pleasure the one to whom you present it gets! Bravo! I love!

Lyudmila, I agree with you: Ivan-Tea is beautiful in its purest form. I add a little sugar to "squeeze out" a light honey aroma. Well, a little more currant leaf, in my opinion, does not spoil the sepals of cloudberries.

Citizen, Garik,
I agree about currants! Ivan tea is very good with joint fermentation. Only there are nuances in cooking, so as not to kill the aroma of currants. I dry this tea at a temperature not higher than 80 *. And I also add a handful or two of pre-dried currant berries to the mixture when twisting. But I don't know about cloudberries - we don't have them. But I also read good reviews about her.

In the topic "tea from the leaves of garden and wild plants" I left a small report on the tea I received, the parcel arrived today from Elena-Borisenok

Yuri K, yes, yes ... I'm still going now! Borisonok is a miracle!

Girls, has anyone fermented Kuril tea?

In the summer they treated me to a bunch of such grass. Dried Kuril tea without fermentation. No special impressions. Who did the fermentation? Is it worth asking for a bush for divorce?

[lily_a]

lily_a, lilyMany Kuril tea was made with fermentation. And we are very satisfied.

I was making Kuril, back in the first year, when, like caterpillars, they saw preparations for tea in each leaf. At first it did not inspire, but a year later it turned out to be tasty and aromatic. But there is nothing better than Ivanushka!
Yes, Radushka? !

But there is nothing better than Ivanushka!

After raspberries, of course

I would like to share how I design a gift box and at the same time inform those who are intended to receive tea as a gift. Printout on ordinary office paper (or colored) + figured hole punch "Leaf".

Super!!!
Alevtina, can you share the link where you ordered? I didn't find something

[Kokoschka]

Kokoschka, Lil, is there a leaf-leaf right for you?
Look at Ozone, there's a lot there. And leaves, and flowers ... Type "HobbyBoom" for scrapbooking.

🔗

Or climb into the may-shop, but I didn't look carefully there.

🔗

[Kalyusya]

Kalyusya, Thank you! There are also many of them on Ali, but the price is three times cheaper.
They are more expensive here ...

I bought hole punches in my town in a craft store. Also for 300 rubles. I am posting another example of the presentation of my homemade sweets (based on digested caramel syrup on kefir, so that the donee can know the composition, and then suddenly an allergy.



and here is the self-made "Lady"

[Creamy]

Creamy, so cute!!!!

"and here is the home-made" Lady ""

Is there a recipe on our site?

[lily_a]

lily_a, I made these sweets impromptu, actually, I cooked caramel syrup on kefir, but I wanted to make it a little thicker. Instead of 7 minutes, I decided to boil for 8.5 minutes and quickly cooled the pouring into another cold ladle, and then the ladle into the sink under running cold water. It began to freeze rapidly, I had to urgently lay it out in silicone molds. This is how candies are made by chance.

[Creamy]

Creamy, great, and what other candies do you make?

I was inspired by your creative ideas and ordered three holes for Ali ...

[Kokoschka]

Kokoschka, no, I make sweets very rarely, once a year. or even less often. It is always impromptu from what is at hand. In the middle of the candy is a fried nut (any that you like or have available, my favorite pine nuts, cashews, peanuts close), the binding base is melted chocolate, but I also add waffle crumbs to the chocolate, or better homemade roasted nuts made of finely chopped homemade caramel ( burnt women). I do it in the same form with hemispheres. I'm very weak as a pastry chef.

[lily_a]

lily_a, I made these sweets impromptu, actually, I cooked caramel syrup on kefir, but I wanted to make it a little thicker. Instead of 7 minutes, I decided to boil for 8.5 minutes and quickly cooled the pouring into another cold ladle, and then the ladle into the sink under running cold water. It began to freeze rapidly, I had to urgently lay it out in silicone molds. This is how candies are made by chance.

Successful impromptu!
Then please write the proportions. And the order of bookmarking products, if they are not added at the same time.

[lily_a]

lily_a, I cooked strictly according to the recipe for caramel syrup on kefir. cooked for 8.5 minutes and cooled quickly under running water. All!

Hello,

If you read our topic again, you will see how much tea the people have got moldy in the jars due to the fact that they hurried, did not dry it and put it in the jars without drying it.

This year I kept tea in birch bark tea bags. Not all, of course, but a part, In general, the best packaging can not be found. he breathes in them, and gains a special aroma from birch bark. In short, I ordered myself a few days ago for 10 thousand tuesques. I'm just doing a little for sale, it is better to earn some money on retirement.

birch bark tueskah

I suspect that this is how our ancestors kept their Koporye tea. This is, so to speak, an authentic way of storing☺.
And so, we keep who is in what is much. This year, if I manage to make tea at all, I will store it in cans for baby food.

I have a humidity of 60-70%, only the hermetical capacity saves. Therefore, banks-whether, tueski-whether, everything is individual.

I have a humidity of 60-70%, only the hermetical capacity saves. Therefore, banks-whether, tueski-whether, everything is individual.

We have humidity under 98. Even salt does not cake in the tuyeska, and I think this is an indicator. But what can I say, at the excavations they find tuyeski with wheat, wheat germinates for 1000 years in the ground and at least henna.

I'll try, there is one little new kid. The lid is true, too, from birch bark "P" -shaped, and not wooden "wedge", which is driven into the jar. I myself live in the homeland of birch bark, I will increment))).

[Tricia]

Tricia, Nastyush, I haven't seen you for so long !!!!!!