Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class

[francevna]

I think the dark color comes from high temperatures.

francevna, so I thought so too. And, it turns out, and not necessarily at all.

thanks, I will consider your words)

by the way there are no leaves ... the other material is

[Misha]

by the way there are no leaves ... the other material is

Misha, and then I did it with leaves. And I made the leaves separately. all the same it turned out black.

Throw off a photo, if not difficult, which was dried in a dryer)) brewed ...

[Misha]

Misha, let's do it tomorrow. And then all the tea in my mezzanine in the room, and there my husband is already asleep.

[Wozik]

Throw off a photo, if not difficult, which was dried in a dryer)) brewed ...

let's do it tomorrow.

Wozik, Misha, here is the promised photo:

And I came to share my fireweed ...
Exactly a month ago, I found fireweed on the pier. She stripped all the leaves, so she also grabbed the root in the hope that it will take root.
I pulled it out - that's what it was ...


And now, exactly a month after planting, I found this in the thickets (planted in the shade) ...


Now, the main thing is to survive the winter ...

But after my unsuccessful trip through the fields, I brought a couple of sauces, only without roots, threw them on the lawn (in frustrated feelings), and since the tops were already puffed up, these seeds (so as not to fly away), I nailed with water to the ground, watering them from a hose - I don't know what this idea will turn out to be, but in nature it reproduces like that: it flies away and reproduces in good rains ...

[Anyuta]

Anyuta, prepare the soil for planting fireweed: make a fire, burn dry grass, and in this place beat down fluffy seeds with water and sprinkle with earth. Fireweed has very small seeds, weeds clog them. And in the fires they have no competitors. I sowed a package of fluff (seeds) in the spring. Ascended. And where I just planted zero.

here I am sharing my tea))) the new batch is already languishing)) in the oven in the evening)) in the meantime I still make beautiful jars for yummy

[Yessenia]

Yesseniathan decorate jars, very cute.

So, girls, advise! They brought me leaves in a package, they stood before that night and day in a hot car. The inside of the bag was hot and smelled great like fruit, i.e. fermentation is in full swing ???
And what should I do with them now, while spreading them on the fabric, I'm withering like ...

[francevna]

francevna, decoupage a bit)))

[cerea]

So, girls, advise! They brought me leaves in a package, they stood before that night and day in a hot car. The inside of the bag was hot and smelled great like fruit, i.e. fermentation is in full swing ??? And what should I do with them now, while spreading them on the fabric, I'm withering like ...

cerea, Natalia, immediately twist in a meat grinder. They are already soft steel in the bag - they should not crumble. Then act according to the situation. if there is a strong aroma when twisting, then you can immediately dry. Or ferment for 2 - 3 hours - no more.

[Yesenia]

here I am sharing my tea))) the new batch is already languishing)) in the oven in the evening)) in the meantime I still make beautiful jars for yummy

Yesenia, what a beauty! Smart girl!

[* Anyuta *]

Exactly a month ago, I found fireweed on the pier. She stripped all the leaves, so she also grabbed the root in the hope that it will take root. I pulled it out - that's what it was ...

* Anyuta *, Congratulations ! You see how tenacious he is! Even in the heat, I took root and began to grow. Do not be afraid - it will not freeze in winter.
And Vasyutka advised you correctly with seeds. We need to burn the whole earth. if possible, then burn more pieces of wood on this place.Fireweed loves highly mineralized soil, but does not like fertile soil. This is achieved by fire.

[Yesenia]

Yesenia, what a beauty! Good girl!

and the size of the jar is so good, master's

We need to burn the whole earth. if possible, then burn more pieces of wood on this place. Fireweed loves highly mineralized soil, but does not like fertile soil. This is achieved by fire.

I thought about it - I can't burn the lawn - my hand won't rise ... but I have a lot of ash ... a lot ... then I'll sprinkle it on top ...
By the way, these fireweeds that lie on the lawn and grew on the spot where our forests burned in 2010 ...

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, thanks, twisted the first third and set to dry. The rest, nowhere to go, I will do only tomorrow. And I finally understood what flavor from raw materials should be

[Anyuta]

By the way, these fireweeds that lie on the lawn and grew on the spot where our forests burned in 2010 ...

Anyuta, that's what we are talking about ... He loves places after fires.

And I finally understood what flavor from raw materials should be

Natalia, Congratulations ! This is the most important thing in our business - to catch the scent. This is what we focus on during fermentation.

[lappl1]

lappl1, thank you very much))) beauty should live in beauty))) I'm talking about tea by itself))

[Wozik]

Wozik, Misha, here is the promised photo:

taak ..
thanks a lot for your time)
beautiful tea, but I can't understand ..
why is it dried green, in the photo, and in the cup the tea leaves are black, mine is mine)) by the way, how much tea did you put in the cup (approximately)

Yesseniya in Tver as I envy, there is the Volga, and I am on the asphalt))) although I love Moscow)

[Wozik]

Wozik, yeah, we have beauty here, they say that in the Tver region the most beautiful nature in all of Russia))

Masters !!! needs your diagnosis. The fact is that yesterday I made tea and it turned out not the same as always ... They will start from the beginning. The weathered leaves languished for 4 hours. the smell was amazing. Then I went to the oven at 100 degrees. Stood there for about an hour. But since it was already midnight and the kid refused to go to bed without me, he had to turn off the oven. the tea was still raw. I opened the door and went to bed. In the morning I checked that the tea was dry, BUT the tea did not turn black. that is, it turned out as if green. The aroma is not lost. But I haven't brewed it yet. Tell me please, did I ruin it? ((((

[lappl1]

The girls have passed almost two months since the collection.
God, how delicious he is. It became just some kind of punitive fruit and very pleasant.
My relatives already all know that I am making some kind of tricky tea.
Recently I sent a package of tea to my relatives!
lappl1, Lyudochka thank you very much for the opening !!!!!!!

[Yessenia]

Yessenia, I'm not special, but I don't think they spoiled it!

[Wozik]

Wozik, so I got it green today .... probably it's the low drying temperature ...? I think so.

[Kokoschka]

Kokoschka, no wonder they say, the longer it costs, the tastier it will be)) eh, I hope I have at least one jar will live until winter)) the whole family drinks and tea flies away at the speed of light)) and 4 men in the house are not small cups, you know))

Kokoschka, it’s not for nothing that they say that the longer it costs, the tastier it will be)) eh, I hope I have at least one jar until winter)) the whole family drinks and tea flies away at the speed of light)) and 4 men in the house are not small cups, you know

No need to say!!!!!!

[Wozik]

beautiful tea, but I can't understand .. why is it dried green, in the photo, and in the cup the tea leaves are black, mine is mine)) by the way, how much tea did I put in a cup (approximately)

Wozik, Misha, but I can't understand this either. It's biochemistry ... And I'm not an expert in it. This is most likely due to tannins. I also have this tea from very light granules, absolutely even (from boxes, without leaves, dried at 50 * in a dryer):



Apparently, this is a feature of Ivan tea. I always brew the same - 2 tsp. for 1 glass of boiling water. but I brew it not in a cup, but in a thermos for about 20-30 minutes. But in an ordinary teapot, and in a mug with a lid, and with less time it turns out black.Only the aroma and taste changes from the time of brewing, but not the color.
So Yesenia got green granules. I'm sure she will also have black tea. A lighter tea is obtained by making loose leaf tea and not kneading it very much. But in the last batch, I rubbed the leaves with a new device. So there, too, blackening turned out.

Masters !!! needs your diagnosis. tell me please, did I ruin it? ((((

YesseniaI'm sure everything will be okay.

[Kokoschka]

God, how delicious he is. It became just some kind of punitive fruit and very pleasant. My relatives already all know that I am making some kind of tricky tea. Recently I sent a package to my relatives! Lappl1, Lyudochka, thank you very much for the opening !!!!!!!

Kokoschka, Lilya, I'm so glad you did it! Good job! I did everything right, so this is the result. Drink your tea for health and treat your loved ones with it!

probably it's the low drying temperature ...? I think so.

Yessenia, exactly. the green color of dry tea due to the low temperature.

well, I don't want to offend anyone, but in this matter I'm not interested in seeds, boxes, etc.))
only the leaves and the dryer are interested ... how do you want black raw materials, both infusions and externally)
By the way, we used the oven yesterday two weeks after drying the tea, the smell of grass remained, I don't see anything wrong with that, I'm just saying))
p. from. I still don't like caramel tea, although it has changed its taste at times. I like leafy 6-hour fermentation, just like a long one almost))
still Luda, throw me a book, if it's not difficult about tea, I would read it at my leisure

[Misha]

MishaAnd Lyuda and many tea-makers write that it is not necessary to ferment tea for a long time. Luda counts 12 o'clock, and me 6 o'clock.

[Wozik]

but in this matter I am not interested in seeds, boxes, etc.))

Wozik, Misha, yes God is with them, with boxes. For comparison, I showed how black tea is obtained from light raw materials, moreover, when dried in a dryer.

how do you want black raw materials, both infusions and externally)

Misha, dry black cannot be obtained from the dryer. but when brewed it will be black. But to be black and dry, and brewed, you need to dry, starting at 100, well, at least 95 * in the oven. There will be no caramel, but black dry and brewed tea.

I like leafy 6-hour fermentation, just like a long one almost))

Luda counts 12 o'clock, and me 6 o'clock.

Misha, Lina, I recently fermented for 3 - 5 hours. I liked more than 12 hours at this stage of my life. I say that I still haven't decided which tea I like best. Each time is different.

Lyuda, throw a book to me if it's not difficult about tea, I would read it at my leisure

Misha, you mean a Chinese book about tea? Good. Only she is in my Word. I need your mail. Then I'll throw it off. And here, on the Bread Maker, you can't send it in PM. Throw me your email.

Girls for the first time I fermented for a long time and still delicious tea

Lily, I agree. It is difficult to get not tasty from Ivan-tea.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Lyudochka .. I once again came with a photo ..
This is what I showed last time ...
Now it looks like this

I'll try again .. is it definitely not fireweed? And then I read about some small-flowered - here it is very similar ...

[Anyuta]

Anyuta, not similar in flowers, but similar in fluff. small-flowered never saw. By the way, I now have half a meadow in such fluff. And not only fireweed is puffing.

oh, girls and boys ... What a delicious tea it turned out, yes with my own honey. Next year I will do a lot!

[cerea]

cerea, Natasha, oh, how glad I am! Well done ! I did everything right, that's why it's so delicious! Drink your delicious tea for health!

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, yesterday found the same plant. Only blooms. The only one for the whole river. The fact that this is not narrow-leaved fireweed for sure. The narrow-leaved one has the next arrangement of leaves. I don’t know what the name is. It looks like a small-flowered fireweed.But the flowers are not small.

[Vasyutka]

Vasyutka, look at the photo of small-flowered fireweed - I have one in one. So in our country, narrow-leaved fireweed grows more as a bush than (how to put it more accurately) as a tree or one stem ... I also posted the photo above ...

By the way, I also have this one single plant ...

I'll try again .. it's definitely not fireweed

Maybe a subspecies?

Maybe a subspecies?

Small-flowered fireweed

[Anyuta]

Small-flowered fireweed

Anyuta, but they don't make tea from it?

Girls, went to the shop today to the seller's shop, sells food and all sorts of things, coffee, tea in packs and by weight. I saw Ivan-tea by weight in his glass jar, well, I think - dreams come true. (I did not find fireweed growing here). I asked for a sniff, I felt the familiar aroma of country tea, which I made myself from apple + cherry + plum + a little gooseberry. Its price is 900 hryvnia, about 2300 rubles. Granulated tea, seen through a meat grinder. What do you think? It is he? Floral, honey smell did not feel, the smell of its rustic, just one to one. It is worth shelling out at least 100 grams to try and fulfill your dream or not spend it. Ivan never drank tea or even smelled, that's the whole catch.

Anyuta, don't they make tea from it?

Allochka, honestly - I don't even know ... .. so I'm trying to find out myself: can I make tea with him or not?

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, it is better to grow narrow-leaved fireweed and make it out of your own.