Margot
Husband gave it to March 8 joy knew no bounds. But after 3 days on the function of baking wheat bread (3:50), a malfunction appeared in the program: Pre-mixing is in progress - pause - kneading and somewhere at 2:30 the ventilation is activated and baking does not start in time should start somewhere when 1 remains: 23. You have to cut down the program and put it on the baking itself. It's a shame, even cry!
natalka
Are you sure that baking starts in your oven at 1.23. Usually, in different bread makers, of course, in different ways, but as far as I know, baking takes from 50 minutes to an hour. I have not met again. Most likely you are mistaken and in vain cut down the program. Let her finish it to the end, and then draw conclusions.
Margot
To be honest, I noticed that the fan has worked and does not stop, the top of the raised bread is very dry. The first three times everything went well. Everything is great when baking regular bread! And at the expense of the baking time, I looked at the instructions, but the truth is in the mode of baking ordinary bread.
Something I already doubted: maybe in the wheat bread mode baking lasts less ???
Kiev woman
Bread baking starts 50 minutes before the end of the program. Disconnecting in vain.
natalka
Exactly! And I said the same thing. Put bread on this program and do not interfere with the process. Maybe everything is as it should be. Don't get discouraged ahead of time. Perhaps the fan worked before, but you did not notice. As far as I understand, the fan in this case is convection, it accelerates hot air. At first, not very hot, for raising the dough, and then when baking starts, the temperature rises and everything will be OK. Bake and report the result!
HiHi
I had a problem with the oven For a whole month after the purchase I baked great cupcakes, then I took a break from working with the oven for 2 weeks. And that's it ... I'm baking a cake, but it's not baked. At all
What to do? Tell me if anyone knows. Could this be due to the low voltage (although the bread turns out as before)?
Aglo
What is low voltage? Figures please.
But lowering the voltage should not give such an effect - the temperature is controlled by the stove and is maintained at the level set in the program by the time the heater is connected to the network. That is, the heater is not permanently connected to the network, but periodically turns on and off when the set temperature is reached.
Rather, the reason should be sought in the changed properties of the ingredients.
Pakat
HiHi , Aglo, a little bit wrong ...
Undervoltage, will not allow the heating element of the stove to heat up to the set temperature, the shutdown relay simply will not work, but no
sufficient heating will not bake anything.
But it's not about tension, since bread is baked normally, in other modes, it means normal tension
Check cake ingredients, flour / liquid ratio, and try baking again, which may increase baking time.
Aglo
HiHi nor HiHi , but if we are talking about a reasonable reduction, at which all other equipment is still working, for example, a TV or light bulbs are not barely glowing, then everything will be as I said above. A reasonable voltage, in this case, I suppose, is to lower the voltage to 190V.
HiHi
I didn't change the ingredients, but tried several times - and each time the same thing: baked from below, and batter on top.
And the voltage is such that the fluorescent table lamp does not burn, but blinks.
Pakat
HiHi, you need a voltage regulator to cover the stove's peak power. That is, if the stove is 600 watts, the stabilizer is at least 750 watts, if 900 then 1500 watts.
lsam
The essence of the matter: When baking dough, the dough is rising, the bread maker does not heat up and the dough does not rise. Bakes fine, but ends up with a small bun. can anyone have this? before there was still a glitch when the bread maker at the end of raising the dough began to interfere with it and the dough fell. does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Admin

Write on which program this happens and on which particular loop.
Describe the sequence of actions x \ stove.
lsam
On Bread and RapidBread. when the proving mode starts.
He does everything according to the program but does not turn on heating when raising the dough. as a result, the dough does not heat up and does not rise. however, the baking mode works fine.

So I don't understand what's the matter
Admin
Have you been using a bread maker for a long time?

Try to compare my temperature measurements in the bread maker while it is working with yours.
If so, like mine, then perhaps you need to look for problems in bread baking products, in yeast.
I measured the temperature at the top of the bucket so as not to interfere with the dough during kneading.

Hitachi Bread Maker Program, (in which I bake this bread) Whole Wheat Bread, which lasts 3.50 hours.

The duration of the process and the cycles in the Hitachi bread maker by operation is as follows:

1.preliminary kneading - 11 minutes
2.pause - 40 minutes
3. kneading - 14 minutes
4.first ascent - 26 minutes
5.gas outlet - 20 seconds
6.second ascent - 70 minutes
7.baking - 55 minutes
8. End of baking - 13 minutes.

1. During the first (preliminary) kneading for 11 minutes, only the products are mixed. Stove does not heat up yet

2. The pause lasts 40 minutes - at this time the products interpenetrate into each other, the dough is resting, gluten bonds begin to form inside, the flour swells from the water taken in, the dough spreads along the bottom of the bucket.
The stove does not heat up during this period (cycle) either.

3. The main kneading of the dough and the formation of the bun begins - kneading time is 14 minutes.
During this period of time, intensive heating of the stove begins, and the temperature inside the bucket reaches 35 * C by the end of the batch.

4. The temperature in the bread maker decreases from 35 * С (after the second batch) to 26-28 * С by the end of the first proofing.

6. The temperature in the bread maker is maintained at the level of up to 26-28 * C, which is optimal for fermentation of the dough.

7.8. A strong heating of the bread machine begins, due to which the dough piece after proofing will turn into a finished ruddy bread.
At this time, complex biochemical processes for baking bread take place in the dough piece.
The temperature of the crumb inside the finished bread reaches 98 * C.

Aglo
Or maybe it's worth starting to find a voltmeter (tester - multimeter) and measure the voltage in the network?
In the event that the voltage is below 198V (the norm of the mains voltage is 220V +/- 10%), apply with a written statement to your power supply organization with the requirement to bring the voltage in the network back to normal.
It seems to me that it will be easier than finding a stabilizer above the specified power. And all the equipment available in the house is voltage that goes beyond 10% of the nominal is not good.
Cake
Yes ..... I don’t know what country you live in to “write an application to the energy supplying organization” like this and they’ll give you 220 right tomorrow .... I live in a small town in the Central Black Earth Region. The lines are worn out, the transformer boxes are still from Soviet times. People are drowning in the old-fashioned way from "goats" from "left" sockets .... In autumn and winter, the voltmeter barely shows 180 volts. And write at least to Putin .... First, they put the transformer on the computer (otherwise, in the middle of the work, everything was cut down), then - on the German gas boiler, because otherwise the dealers did not give a guarantee on it (electronics flies). And then I got so tired of not using the microwave and cursing everything in the world in the dark that they took and bought a 6 Kilowatt transformer for 7 thousand rubles !!! And life began to play with all its colors! Washer-washes, multicooker-cooks, etc., nothing turns off, all lamps do not blink and do not buzz suspiciously.So, I'm not afraid to seem original, "rescuing drowning people is the work of their drowning people"
Aglo
"write an application to the energy supplying organization"
This is to identify the goats which is drowned in the old-fashioned way by "goats" from "left" sockets .... Often because of them, the voltage in the network decreases so much.
Again, the town is different from the town - not everywhere energy supplying organizations are so loyal to the plunderers.
"The rescue of drowning people is the work of the drowning people themselves" is true. Only the ways of salvation are manifold and any of them should not be neglected.
Writing a statement does not guarantee 100% result, but when I apply for a statement on any occasion, I assume that what if my statement will become the last straw that overflows the cup and the matter will move.
Lenusya
Quote: Aglo

Writing a statement does not guarantee 100% result, but when I apply for a statement on any occasion, I assume that what if my statement will become the last straw that overflows the cup and the matter will move.

It is in vain to think so. To my application and numerous calls, there was such an answer: look, find out which of the neighbors is carrying out welding and other work, has left connections, etc., and let us know, we will go check from 8.00 to 16.00 (such a working day with an inspector), except Saturday and Sunday, and if you don't know who, don't complain
Aglo
look for, identify which of the neighbors is carrying out welding and other work, has left connections, etc., and let us know, we will go check from 8.00 to 16.00

I understand that these were oral answers - you can't sew them to the case.
I have experience of successful struggle with housing department, with Sberbank, with unfair treatment of my children at school.
And I believe that a statement (complaint) is a fairly effective method.
Cake
You are definitely right! And you have to complain, and write and swear. But ... Left hand sockets are only part of the problem. Power lines were mainly built when each apartment had only a TV and a refrigerator. I mean, from those that consume energy strongly (tube TVs oh, how they ate !!!) Time passed and ... Look, what is the total power of all electrical appliances in houses! Powerful 1-2 kilowatt heating elements are everywhere! Even if people do not steal electricity, but pay regularly, they still consume many times more than 20 years ago !!! In Moscow, houses are now being built, where power wiring stretches at the rate of 25 (!!!!!) kW per apartment!
So while I wait for the replacement of the city's electrical facilities with a more modern one ...
My husband and I sat down and counted how much all the electrical appliances cost in the house And in the kitchen, and in the rooms). It turned out to be a very tidy sum! I don't want to repair at my own expense (power surges are not included in the warranty). Therefore, we got out of the situation once and for all: 8 kilowatts (my husband corrected me with the power, I wrote in the last post - 6) voltage stabilizer at the entrance to the house. All. No problem! Left-handed sockets, right-handed, boil-do not boil, respond to complaints with reciprocal complaints about poor funding, they are silent like fish .... I'm calm! And my plasma in the hall will not "grunt", and everything that is cheaper will also serve longer and without problems.
This is my opinion, I do not impose on anyone.
Vyacheslav Ivanov
Good morning!
When operating a used HP Hitachi 301, I noticed that the agitator shaft in the bucket rotates by hand not freely, but with some effort. Is this normal or needs to be disassembled and lubricated? Is there a bearing or a bushing? Fastener in the form of a flat spring, I'm afraid to break. I dripped a drop of oil outside - nothing seems to have changed. The rest of the moving elements (the drive shaft in the housing) were wiped, lubricated, the motor shaft was not touched. If possible, give a reference to a special food grade oil (for lubricating moving parts) for HP.
Palych
Vyacheslav Ivanov, your hp is not the same as everyone else's)). There are a dozen topics on the forum on disassembling and assembling buckets, replacing the oil seal and bearing. Everything is trite. Bushing, stem, oil seal. I changed the oil seal on mine. After baking, do not turn the shaft at all. Clogged with oozing baked dough. Hot water, time and get ready to change the oil seal.It is better then to immediately pick up a needle bearing instead of bronzes. bushings and it is possible to sharpen a new stock. I have both the bushing and the shaft itself a little worn out.
sazalexter
Vyacheslav Ivanov, The main topic of bucket repair https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...com_smf&topic=36855.0 ibid lubrication recommendations

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