Maybe you shouldn't overpay for brands?

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Hello,

I am trying to choose a bread maker and found a Turkish company in our store Sinbo 4705 (SBM-4705).
Is there anyone who has used it or heard of it?
I just can't decide - to take or not to take?
I can't find any reviews about her anywhere in the net.
Maybe experts will advise, based at least on the description of the bread machine
Thank you in advance!

take it! it is a complete copy of our Morphy Richards, in Israel, almost everyone uses such
this is rye made from whole grain flour baked in it \ a piece of the stove is visible on the photo \

just compare .. the Germans also have such a copy, in general, they do everything at one plant in China, the stove is good, I have no one.

Yes, really, you can't tell ... apparently it's true they are stamping at one plant!

Thank you for your advice, Gypsy!
Probably I will opt for it.

And what is the model number of your bread machine, I want to read the instructions in English, since everything on our model is in Turkish?

Thanks again!

you can use this manual, technically they differ only in a folding blade, it is quite suitable .. it is multi, in Russian (starting from 121 pages):
the recipes aren't bad either.

model number in my signature

Thank you very much, Gypsy!
I downloaded the instructions and everything became clear.

Jazmina if you buy it, then come to be friends with stoves in the theme of Morphy Richards stoves
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=76.0

Good time!
Did you come across instructions for UNOLD 68415 in Cyrillic or Latin? I did not find it on my home site.

Gypsy woman, if I buy, I will join your topic, but two other stoves, Delonghi bdm 755 and Kenwood 210, caught my eye, it seems the flour of choice is not over yet.
Now I am more inclined to choose Delonghi bdm 755, but I don’t know if I’m doing it right. Can someone tell me which of these three stoves is the best and most reliable?

I was completely worn out with a choice ...

Thank you!

[Jazmina]

Jazmina Read about delongues here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=65.0

sazalexter thanks, I've been reading for several hours, my head is spinning ... I don't know what to do ..

Jazmina, I cannot compare the reliability of these stoves. When I bought from us there was not much choice, it was .. two firms in total, the second was completely dumb. In general, there are a lot of good reviews about my model on our Internet and only good reviews, which I was generally convinced of.
Look also at the price .. or maybe you will like something else outwardly, so it also happens. we are women

Yesterday I finally made up my mind and bought Delonghi 755 and even managed to bake some bread, although my mother and I were not very happy with the result, but this is because of flour, although I write "Top grade", but in fact it turned out to be not so top-quality, bread turned out to be grayish, but we will replace the flour and begin to fill our hand.

Jazmina, congratulations

because of the flour you worry in vain, as I remember, the higher the grade, the more useless it is if not harmful flour for health

Good time!
Did you come across instructions for UNOLD 68415 in Cyrillic or Latin? I did not find it on my home site.

Download here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=89&topic=3487.0
I checked, the file is working, the instruction is in Russian.
Good luck in baking

Good day everyone
I read the whole Temka and skimmed through the others, but found nothing about my stove. Who has one, write, pliiiz, your review and recipes, which are applicable there. Otherwise, there is nothing in the instructions, only the operating rules
I took a recipe for ordinary white bread from the site for 500 grams, made it, but the bread rose with the lid. Then I made a half portion, the bread turned out, but it was too small. Today I have already taken the ratio of products by eye, but again it turned out not quite high. However, to taste
I have a SUPRA BMS-150 stove. Owners of such stoves, please respond

I took a recipe for ordinary white bread from the site for 500 grams, made it, but the bread rose with the lid. Then I made a half portion, the bread turned out, but it was too small. Today I have already taken the ratio of products by eye, but again it turned out not quite high.

I have adapted to count the number of products.
Divide the weight of each recipe into 10 parts.
I reduce it by 1/10, 2/10 or 3/10 parts.

Hello everyone! Also fired up to buy a bread maker. I saw a PALSON bread maker in the store, does anyone know anything about it. Or maybe someone has one like this, share your impressions

Hello!
We took a bakery and a multicooker two in one Palson, though only yesterday.
Of course, they immediately began to experience it - they baked fish and vegetables, the taste is Simply Super !!!!! You can't cook like that on the stove!
But the overlay came out with the bread ... the yeast was expired and it did not rise, although the machine kneaded everything by itself and baked it with a golden crust (the crust is delicious) !!! :) Today I will try with normal yeast;)

We took a bakery and a multicooker two in one Palson, though only yesterday.
Of course, they immediately began to experience it - they baked fish and vegetables, the taste is Simply Super !!!!! You can't cook like that on the stove!
But the overlay came out with the bread ... the yeast was expired and it did not rise, although the machine kneaded everything by itself and baked it with a golden crust (the crust is delicious) !!! :) Today I will try with normal yeast;)

It is that in one case chtol or two different units.
And the manufacturer is also China.

Manufactured ..... written Barcelona Want to believe
There is only one unit, that is, in this mold (as for bread) you can bake bread and just knead the dough, 10 functions are the main one, and 5 more for bread and sweet bread, then marmalade, jam, custard ... In addition, you can cook the second there (there is a recipe for pasta, fish is described) all sorts of casseroles and soups too! :)
Only if you are always in a hurry, then you should think about the oven cooking bread for 3 hours!
But the smell in the house will be- FEEL !!!

I have been thinking about a bread maker for a long time. But I find it difficult to choose.
So the initial data are as follows
- budget about 120 dollars
- I will bake mostly rye bread
Paying attention to such ovens
Moulinex OW 2000
LG HB-151 JE or LG HB-155 CJ
DELONGHI BDM 750 W or DELONGHI BDM 750 W
Kenwood BM 250 or Kenwood BM 256
These are the ones that are in one (suitable price range for me)
I really love black rye bread and Borodino, how do these ovens fit in baking such bread ???
Or is it worth saving up money and buying something "hit" like Kenwood BM 450, Panasonic SD 255, Moulinex OW 5002
I will really wait for your recommendations, because I really want a stove))))

All stoves allow you to do whatever you want. the programs are almost the same. It is worth paying attention to Kenwood or LV, Delongy is also not bad, but I can not exactly advise. because I myself have not seen (this is in appearance) and Moulinex would not advise, not because it is a bad oven, by no means, but, unfortunately, it is these ovens for some reason that have a large percentage of breakdowns ... but you can and get lucky.
In general, read about each stove yourself (we have enough information) and choose exactly what you like.

I have Delongy for 2 years. I'm glad. At work I advised the employees to buy Delfa. Two bought and are VERY happy (of course, 350 UAH price !!) - they bake with might and main. A third colleague bought a Panasonic, she didn't get bread, she abandoned the stove. Conclusion: there would be a desire, the stove is secondary.

EI have a Benten bread machine that can make yoghurt, but where can I get such recipes? Maybe someone also has such a function in the oven?

maybe you really shouldn't pay so much for brands and buy something in the style of BENTEN, Orion or Delphi?

I would have no doubt now, I would have bought Delfa. You can't buy sin for this price. Panasonic is 5 times more expensive !!! And the rest are much more expensive. (IMHO)

At my work, a girl almost at the same time bought me a Binaton (for 2 buckets). In less than a year, X / p was repaired twice. Now it will definitely be present in the mix, because something can get stuck there and then the engine will burn out. So no-name is always a lottery. IMHO.

Girls, I’ll tell you for sure, there is NOTHING difference between well-made bread in Delfa and Panasonic bread. And I won't even speak about Skis and Moulinex. Don't overpay. My experience with household appliances allows me to say so. Technique is always a lottery.
As our service workers say, it is better to take cheaper regular manufacturers every year than to steam with expensive brands. And how does the expensive brand NOW differ from the same Delfa and others like it?

What do you think about such a manufacturer as Zelmer ???
they have a Zelmer 43Z011 stove - this is an average option, so as not to overpay for top brands and not take risks buying Orion and the like ???
And further. I heard that bread from a bread machine becomes "rubbery" the next day, that it should be eaten only fresh. But I love yesterday's slightly dried bread. It's more useful ...

I heard that bread from a bread machine becomes "rubbery" the next day, that it should be eaten only fresh. But I love yesterday's slightly dried bread. It's more useful ...

It depends on which recipe you choose. Now I mainly make bread on kefir - there is no rubberiness for several days and there is no trace of it.

This is not entirely true. I noticed that the more yeast and the shorter the time for fermentation, the more unimportant the bread the next day. And now I make it with sourdough plus a little yeast (very little!) - and it keeps such fluffy and freshness - just super! And after 4 days, like yesterday. Just UNWARM. And soft-

It looks like according to your posts, the person is light. Must be lucky. Read about the not expensive ones here and buy one of them. But so that you like it in the store.

Lucky in different ways)))) it happened that the brands let down. But still, in my life I try to buy normal companies. There were many sad experiences associated with noname, but with bread makers I see a slightly different situation here. For example, when the brand and non-name have the same design. I understood everything when I saw this post. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...26545.0
I remember I saw Elenberg BM-3100 in Eldorado for 308 UAH. She has so many analogues, horror. Alaska BM2600, Rolsen RBM-938, Daewoo DI-3200S, Rotex RBX-38 Y, WEST BM903WS, First 5150, Liberton LBM02, Saturn ST-EC1775 Leda, ORION OBM-101, Elenberg BM-3100
, Saturn 1775.
Yesterday I saw Kenwood and a similar cameron in the store, only the cameron is 2 times more expensive. Now I'm leaning towards this Elenberg BM-3100
I'll try what a bakery is, maybe later I'll want Panasonic. And I still don't understand how it is in Panasonic with the same proportions and ingredients that bread tastes better than in LV? Is bread tastier in Panasonic than in Moulinex, Delonge?

The bread in different ovens is almost the same. This "almost" can be neglected if you do everything correctly and have experience, knowledge of nuances.

Aha! Especially if you do not bother with the fact that your stove does not have a heating function, so you can simply not put food from the refrigerator to help it! And now all the stoves have good programs - everything has been worked out over the years. And the oven is still not a spaceship.
By the way, we have a Philips bread maker in our warehouse (I haven't found it in the catalogs yet!) I opened and looked. NOTHING outstanding! Small, primitive in design. But obviously OWN development. I have never seen such people. The bucket doesn't sit well, and I personally have a mixed feeling about the O-ring. But Phillips!

Yesterday I saw Kenwood and a similar cameron in the store, only the cameron is 2 times more expensive.

I do not believe! Maybe the other way around?
And I know Cameron only Cameron CB-4407, but I don’t know a similar Kenwood ... What exactly did you see in the store yesterday?

Sorry ... Kenwood is more expensive))))

that's such a cameron
and that's such a kenwood

Ah-ah, I know these ... But they are not complete analogues. They differ in the maximum weight of bread - in Kenwood 900g (and full analogs for this oven are dofiga: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...26545.0), and the cameron has 750g (there are also analogues, but much less: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...26545.0).

I don `t understand. A person wants to bake exactly rye bread. I'd rather buy a normal food processor capable of kneading dough, bread molds and baking in the oven - it's easier and much more aromatic and tasty. It is impossible to get normal tasty rye bread in a bread maker, because it requires sourdough. And the sourdough and bread maker are poorly compatible. Now I use my bread maker almost exclusively for kneading white bread, the combine would do better with this. By the way, in order to knead rye bread - you don't even need a combine - you don't need to knead it for a long time

Yes. I will bake mainly black, rye, coarsely ground bread. both he is useful white, including for the figure. and I'm just used to it.

Then go to the leaven section. Choose the right one. You can, for example, "eternal". This will take approximately 4 days. Then choose a rye bread recipe and go. It would be nice to just bribe bread tins, although hearth bread is a cool thing.

The topic is about the price of bread makers!
I think that for baking bread (and not jam, bacon, etc.), you need to buy a cheaper stove (especially for beginners) - since very little depends on the properties of the stove, and they are practically the same in function.
If you bake white bread with store yeast = then any oven will give good bread, and all baking will take place in automatic mode.
If the oven is sourdough, then the oven helps to bake and saves time, but you will have to knead in whole or in part with your hands.
Therefore, I consider buying an expensive oven a waste of money - bread from a $ 70 oven is the same as from a $ 200 oven.
And all sorts of reflections on the topic of quality, brands, programming, etc. are either from the sellers of expensive stoves, or from those who have already bought them. Perhaps these differences exist, but their price is a maximum of 20% of the price of a cheap stove, but not 300%.
I convinced about 10 people to buy Orion 206 at $ 66 (10x66 = 660), and if they all bought PANASONIK for $ 230 (10x230 = 2300), then the sellers would have received an additional 2300 - 660 = $ 1640 !!!
Therefore, it makes sense for sellers to prove here that they need to buy PANASES. Alas - the same divorce (or self-divorce) of suckers, as elsewhere in our life.

Sergey Rzhanoy, the answer to the point!
I'm just looking for something cheaper right now. I saw in Eldorado Elenberg BM-3100 for 308 UAH (38 dollars), but it has no guarantee for the BU type. The new one will be UAH 370, so I'm waiting for it. I also saw kakueto Electra - an analogue of Moulinex 2000 for 600 UAH. I will think, I will not rush. I'm also looking at Zemler)))

Therefore, it makes sense for sellers to prove here that they need to buy PANASES. Alas - the same divorce (or self-divorce) of suckers, as elsewhere in our life.

Explain what you mean by this.

And I think that the stove is bought for a long time, then you need to buy a good one so that you will become unhappy later.

I wanted to express my personal belief that in our time of mass deception, sellers of any goods go to any site and advertise their goods.
For example, if I were selling ORION stoves, I would start praising them on this site - oh, what design, and what programs, and do not break, etc.
But it is most likely that an expensive product is advertised in this way, since the profit is greater, and it is more difficult to convince to buy. And to breed suckers - this in modern jargon means, among other things, convincing the buyer to buy a much more expensive product, although there is a much cheaper one with sufficient quality.
It is clear that direct advertising can be prevented or limited (on this site something similar is only depicted above the picture of the forum - even cognitively), but with indirect advertising it is more difficult - it is more difficult to catch it.
I do not suggest trying to catch this advertisement - I only call for vigilance, and only using the example of bread makers. But this problem is universal and occurs at every step.
WE ARE MAKED TO BUY EXPENSIVE PRODUCTS!

Sergei Rzhanoy, I want to tell you, but think about it. If, for example, I am a seller of household appliances (by the way, I sold it for 2 years)) I start here to advertise, for example, Orion. And what does it matter to me? I'm not advertising my store, but an ordinary oven. And people on our site are from different countries. What is the probability that someone, after reading my advertisement, will come running to my store and it is from me that they will buy this stove.
Before accusing users of brazenly recruiting you, you must first communicate, understand what's what
Think about it and you are doing the right thing if you want to communicate here calmly and to the point.
Don't panic, relax and bake calmly.

The cost of a product is determined by novelty, quality, reliability, design, and just for this there are forums where people express their troubles.

I accept the advice - I bake it calmly. In 1 hour and 40 minutes I will get another loaf.
I am not "speaking" for myself - I want to help others. Maybe I'm trying unsuccessfully.
BUY EXPENSIVE PRODUCTS - THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE than CHEAPEST !!!