Amateur chef
I went to the link, prices for 6220 are interesting, but for 6290 not very much. The difference between officers in Russia and such an order is 4600r. Without a guarantee in Russia and wait a month ...
Crochet
Quote: Scarecrow
How I got pulled up by these kneaders, damn it !! I don't like Kitchen or Arkansrum yet so ah. For about 15 minutes I was again mixing dough for a kilo of flour in a Swede. I looked and looked at it all, I don’t like the consistency again and transferred it to the HP Panasonic. As for me - so she is the best of all three kneading dough.

Tus, you are not alone, here is Luda-mariana_aga exactly the same considers:

Better than a bread bake, nothing and no one kneads the dough. Fair! It does not knead like other devices. She not only wraps the dough on herself, she also grinds it. A tremendous effect, affects the crumb.

I was also quite satisfied with the quality of the dough mixed in HP ...

But Ankarsrum still bought ... for some reason ...

But he makes me happy ... now ...

And it's great that "infuriates, infuriates" is already far behind ...

I wish I could also buy a citrus juicer for it ... it's expensive, damn it ... but I want ...
Gandalf
Maidens-beauties!
Who has already got used to the work of this kneader?
Please describe a detailed cycle of kneading dough for bread, preferably using a real example.
Gandalf
Well, the lack of an answer is also an experience.
I will consider for the future.
Omela
Quote: Gandalf
Please describe a detailed cycle of kneading dough for bread, preferably using a real example.
Yuri, usually. the author in the bread recipe indicates the kneading scheme. For Ankarsrum something like this:
- Mix all products at low speed. cover, leave for 20 minutes
- knead at high speed until smooth

For example, you can see the result here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=358237.0
Gandalf
Omela, thanks for your helpfulness and help.
And for wheat-rye 70/30 the same kneading mode?
Omela
Quote: Gandalf
And for wheat-rye 70/30 the same kneading mode?
No, Sergey (register) kneads with a hook for 8-12 minutes. Link cannot be inserted, autocorrect occurs.
You can enter in the search engine: Bread "DREAM". TU 9113-209-05747152-97, he has illustrations there.
Gandalf
Omela, Thank you.
I read interesting content.
airat333
Hello everyone. I want to give my mom a dough mixer, could you help me with the choice. It is mainly planned to use it for making dough for dumplings. I chose bork e800 or Ankarsrum (basic). So, which one is better suited for this purpose, or can you recommend something else.
Omela
Quote: airat333
use it to make dumplings dough.
I would take HP Panasonic for dumplings. But that's my personal opinion.
vernisag
Quote: Omela
HP Panasonic.
Ksyusha, why exactly Panasonic?
Omela
I certainly said, since the conversation was about dumplings. I just don't know about the rest. She did not want to offend other HP. It just makes no sense to take Ankarsrum just for the sake of dumplings. IMHO.
airat333
Quote: Omela
It just makes no sense to take Ankarsrum just for the sake of dumplings. IMHO.
Not only for dumplings, my mom prepares custom-made pies, cakes, but mostly dumplings. That's why I wanted to buy something more serious. I thought that bork e800 or Ankarsrum would do, although some write that they are not quite suitable for this purpose either. So I want to know your opinion.
Omela
It is clear, you did not write about the rest ... I've never kneaded dumplings dough, otherwise Ankarstrum is good. And made very high quality. I can't compare these two models, I don't know anything about Bork.Although I am very careful about this brand (I have their HP), despite the fact that I know many people who really like their technique. It is better to ask about Bork in the profile topic.
Omela
I found a video on kneading pasta, even with a roller.




Although our girls do it with knives in 30 seconds in a combine.

Dumplings dough without kneading in 21 seconds! (dough for dumplings with knives in a food processor) + video (Doxy)

Kneading dough in Ankarsrum Original
ir
And I think he will handle everything well.
airat333
Quote: Omela
I found a video on kneading pasta, even with a roller.
I saw this video and bork has a similar video on youtube. So I watch these videos, read reviews and can not decide in any way, it seems like the bork is intended exclusively for kneading dough, etc., and for this reason, I originally wanted to buy it. Although many complain about the quality of the products of this manufacturer. By chance, I saw reviews about Ankarsrum on this forum, everyone praises the build quality and seems to be good at work, but still I do not really trust the technique, where several functions are combined. And for several days now I have been thinking and cannot make a choice.
Omela
airat333, except for you, no one can decide. Choice is always a difficult matter in our business.
ir
He does not look like all kneaders, some unusual ... ... fabulous
Omela
By the way, when I was looking for a kneader, I also looked at Bork. I liked it purely externally. But in my case, the price was decisive, Ankarsrum was cheaper at that time.
Masinen
We have positive reviews about Bork on the forum. They say that it is very quiet))
Lenka has Tim bork))
airat333
Could you tell me how the Ankarsrum AKM 6220 (deluxe) differs from the Ankarsrum AKM 6290? As far as I understand, the Ankarsrum AKM 6290 has a deluxe package, but for some reason the price is the same as the base one.
Omela
Quote: airat333
Ankarsrum AKM 6290?
Where did you get this number? on the site only 6220.

🔗

Arka
6290 - this is the deluxe package
airat333
Quote: Omela
Where did you get this number? on the site only 6220.
Quote: Arka
6290 - this is the deluxe package
Yes, there are only 6220 on the official website, but in the Yandex market there are 6220 (basic), 6220 (deluxe) and 6290, which are no different from the deluxe in terms of configuration, although its price is even slightly lower than the base one.
Omela
It's easier for you to call the office. representation and ask all your questions.
Lettera
Quote: airat333
What is the difference between Ankarsrum AKM 6220 (deluxe) and Ankarsrum AKM 6290?
For some reason, the name has now changed. A year ago, and on the site indicated by Mistletoe and everywhere were sold 2 configurations, 6220-base and 6290-deluxe. What is still on sale 6290, apparently, old supplies. The price of 6290 cannot be the same as the base one, check. The most interesting thing is that they have absolutely the same boxes, just the base has empty spaces inside from the nozzles that are not supposed to be.
Great choice, happy shopping!
Ninelle
Omela, did not drive, and you have Ankarsrum? Or Kenwood? Whose am I darting between these two and Beauchamp .. Of course induction Kenwood is cool, but I don’t understand yet, but it’s Nada for me ?!
Omela
Quote: Ninelle
Omela, didn’t move, and you have Ankarsrum?
Ninelle, Yes. But I can’t say that I’m straight on it. Normal, high-quality dough mixer. Now it is idle, like the programmable HP.
Ninelle
Is pachimu idle ?!
Ninelle
Here's how to choose something to rip off ...
Omela
Quote: Ninelle

Is pachimu idle ?!
And there was no time to bake bread completely. You need to devote the whole day to this. We switched to healthy yeast-free cakes. : secret: I quickly bake the cakes in the chapatnitsa.
Omela
Quote: Ninelle

Here's how to choose something to rip off ...
Apparently, everything is individual here.

I am already fed up with all the gadgets.

Ninelle
Quote: Omela

Apparently, everything is individual here.

I am already fed up with all the gadgets.

I'm going to cry now ...

With healthy cakes without yeast, I started a hundred years ago ..
Lettera
And every week I have a dough for cookies / muffins. And I am lazy, I bake in cotton
Ninelle
ScarecrowNatasha, what are your three kneaders ?!
Scarecrow
Ninelle,

Kitchen, Ankarsrum and HP Panasonic))
Crochet
Quote: Omela
Idle now

Likewise ...

But the kneader is solid !!!

But loud, as for me), especially when it works at the highest speed ...
Ninelle
Quote: Scarecrow

Ninelle,

Kitchen, Ankarsrum and HP Panasonic))

Thank you, Panasik is, there is Bosch Kubik ...
Artlen
So I rush about. For several months now. That's terrible ...
Help me with the choice ...
Goal:
I am going to use for all kinds of dough, including very tight dough for dumplings, pizza, and also pasta.I also plan to bake bread (to learn how to bake, I have never tried it yet, maybe I decided that I couldn’t cope with the kneading myself, so I postponed this dream until buying a dough mixer), but I’m going to master bread with leaven, including rye, but my the most favorite is ciabatta, with a crispy box and crumb in a hole.
I'm not going to use any additional attachments like a meat grinder / cutting.
Whisking whites, cream, making creams, marshmallows, marshmallows, and any other baking dough (muffins, cookies, gingerbread) is also necessary.
Volumes:
we have a family of 2))) we are planning an addition, but .... more than 1 loaf of bread I definitely don’t plan to bake) because we usually buy half of it in the store, otherwise it just disappears and we throw it away. 1 loaf of bread is up to 1 kg of flour?
I 100% don't want any additional attachments, just a basic set of several whisks.
Additional wishes:
- reliability (to be honest, I really want the model to be inherited by children
- I do not want to additionally interfere with the work of the mixer: that is, to scrape the dough off the hook / walls so that it mixes better, help scrape off the bottom from the bottom - thank you! I plan to pay a lot of money and I want the unit to handle it myself!
- the presence of one large handle on the dough bowl (this is more convenient for me)
- not very noisy
Considering:
Ankarsrum original assistent
Bork E800
Kenwood (there are soooo many models that I don’t know, from 35 thousand up to ...)
KitchenAid Artisan 4.8L
Bosh MUM XL
and .... Panasonic bread maker
Help me please!! I already made a damn and in excel a comparative table of characteristics, but to no avail! it doesn’t help, I don’t know what these models are IN WORK. What kind of noise? Which dough is smeared on the walls and climbs up the hook? Which can not knead a small volume? What are not very reliable? Which ones have a head with nozzles adjustable so that the bottom can be reached with a small volume?
Irina F
I will write how I use it myself. All yeast dough, dough for dumplings and pasta I make in HP Panasonic.
Biscuits, meringues, cream, cookies, etc. -Kitchen.
I like this distribution of roles. Once Ankarsrum was delusional, but then cooled. And this state of affairs suits me)
Gala
Quote: Artlen

and .... Panasonic bread maker
I think I should start with her
Arka
You need to narrow down the list, because there is hardly a person who had at the same time or sequentially a hundred options. You can choose from 2x-3x. And they will certainly help with this, but from 5-6 ...
Watch a video of these devices in operation and maybe you yourself will exclude something.
When I was choosing, the reliability was on the 1st place, and on the 2nd the opportunity to buy and use any block of the type of constructor-transformer. Well, I chose Ankarsrum. The build quality is gorgeous, the possibilities of use are wide. I am very satisfied.
I make yeast dough in HP Panasonic, you don't have to think about what speed is on, how long it takes, etc., well, you can't repeat an automatic proofing with a crush in Ankarsrum, but oh, how convenient!
Artlen
Quote: Arka
Watch a video of these devices in operation and maybe you yourself will exclude something.
I'll probably start with this!
And what do you use from the additional nozzles of the ankarsrum?
Arka
I use a meat grinder, graters, a dough roll with fettuccine-type slices, rarely a blender bowl, although it is also convenient for its extra. a lid that is installed deep (in the middle) of the bowl, making it possible to use a small volume, not a full one. It is extremely rare - a mill.


You know, when using this or that nozzle, it is better for you to focus only on your own interests, since it depends solely on the culinary preferences of an individual family.
Masinen
Artlen, if Kenwood, then boldly narrow down to 096 models with induction heating, or 020? 060 model without induction heating.

Kenwood definitely does not need help, I have 086/096
and there is HP Panasonic)
Artlen
Quote: Masinen
if Kenwood, then boldly narrow down to 096 models with induction heating, or 020? 060 model without induction heating.
with induction kenwood I definitely will not pull the money (
060 - too expensive ...will be the most expensive in my sample, and I don't need a blender there (I have a separate 2 horsepower blender)

Masinen
Then look for 020)
Omela
Quote: Artlen
What kind of noise? Which dough is smeared on the walls and climbs up the hook? Which can not knead a small volume? What are not very reliable? Which ones have a head with nozzles adjustable so that the bottom can be reached with a small volume?
Artlen, Ankarsrum is reliable but noisy. The minimum weight of flour for kneading is 500 g. In any case, the kneading must be controlled, in any unit. And help with a spatula, including. Good luck with your choice!
Artlen
Quote: Omela
The minimum weight of flour for kneading is 500 g
In the blog of the Bread Mills in the review of the Anakrsrum dough mixer, a girl made bread from 300 grams!

Ladies, thank you all for the advice!

Quote: Masinen
Then look for 020)
- is the full title of Titanium Major KM020 Kenwood? Can you compare Kenwood with someone in terms of noise level?

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