IRR
Quote: Aprelevna


I was somehow upset ... in my aul I can't buy, no, my brother gave me this one,

From Prague they take me all the little things as gifts, they wanted a grater and you have them, Natasha. But, my Czechs unfit for the kitchen, said what? a grater for 80 bucks? and they brought me a camera down with this money ... now I'm crushing a carrot with a camera
Leska
Quote: Margit

Venta : flowers: It turns out small straws, I really, really like it! And for frying and salads, this insert must be tried to be appreciated!
and even if in broth - like potato noodles
Aprelevna
Quote: IRR

From Prague they take me all the little things as gifts, they wanted a grater and you have them, Natasha. But, my Czechs unfit for the kitchen, said what? a grater for 80 bucks? and they brought me a camera down with this money ... now I'm crushing a carrot with a camera

There is, Irina, my brother just gave me a present and bought it in Moscow time.
It is worth it with us, yeah, about that and only in a couple of places for the extended sale of teers, I did not find ...
but there are no spare parts for it on the iCh sites ... so right now I went to a German site alone, and there ... everything my heart desires,
there I saw ROCO for 10 euros, I will order it and send it to me.

Girls, thank you all for your support, I'll get used to it !!!

IRR, add to the post.
This is what I found on the ITS sites for the request "börner", only such a device 🔗
it costs about 56 euros.
Everything, there is nothing else at all, no matter how I get rid of the letters, typing them in a local search engine,
But on the websites of Germany, this stuff is just heaps, I found everything there, but here I sit and figure out how to order it now.
Venta
Aprelevna and the online store from Berner directly does not work for you? On the German site ( 🔗) there is a switch to the language of the country you want - and it seems at the same time throws it to the online store of that country. When I switched to Russian, I got to a Russian store site, maybe you have it?
Venta
So I was wrong, I thought that here is the Czech Republic ((
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Margit
Quote: Leska

and even if in broth - like potato noodles
Leska Thank you! I will definitely try the potato noodles. I make a Korean salad from potatoes, but I haven't tried it in soup.

Girls, in the photo above on the left are cubes: insert 0.7 lies on the table, and 10 mm in the V-frame - an accordion is obtained, since the blades are different in height and the bar is not cut through to the end; on the bottom left, a 10 mm insert lies on the table, 0.7 is inserted into the V-frame - small flat cubes are obtained. At the top right, both inserts of 10 mm - even cubes are obtained.

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dopleta
Quote: IRR

here ... now I'm crushing carrots with a fotik
Why are you silent? Is it necessary? Let's pass it on with your uncle, who comes here! Delov something!
OJGG
Quote: Pro

It's a pity to upset you, but you have a dumb China. Throw it away and don't be discouraged.
Details on how to distinguish the original from a fake are on Berner's Russian website 🔗

I would like to say that many companies already make graters of the Berner type. Berner was bought from me in 1995. Many years have passed since then, it is still working. About two years ago I bought another grater (the old one remained in another place), but I don’t remember exactly made it, somewhere like in Orel. So here is a new grater of better quality. It is classic, and the inserts are written in Russian - thick, thin. The knives are as sharp as Berner's. For two years it has been serving faithfully. And its price is 250 rubles. So you don't have to pray just for Berner!
Mrrr meow
Girls! but you have no desire to switch to an electric grater, but not hand? there are a lot of food processors, isn’t a grater better and not replaceable? Or maybe someone has already changed and can advise an alternative to the manual Berner? I'm in search of such an assistant, and if you also grind the meat and beat the cream and dough, it will be complete happiness .. but only Kenwoods 10 and 20 for 800-1200 bucks do not offer
Venta
I also have a harvester, domestic Energy. In the harvesting season, of course, it is irreplaceable, without it as without hands. When you cook a lot - of course, an assistant) But when you need to cook a little, it's easier with a knife, and by the same Berner - less fuss, less washing.For the sake of a couple of potatoes or carrots, onions to wash the harvester?) Lazy))) Besides, the configurations of the harvesters are different - there are not always the necessary attachments. For example, I have only a coarse grater in it. Everything is cut into a flask, which must be emptied periodically (well, here I am lucky - my cutting is taken out into a substituted dish, acromia of the flask), the inlet opening is narrow - not every product can be shoved in without first cutting it.
A grater or the same Berner - directly into the desired shirk-shirk dish and that's it)
And yes, with all the bells and whistles in the kitchen, the grater will still remain: DNo without it, no way
I have old ones, I still have almost Soviet ones, but personally I don’t have any convenient strength, I will never throw it away))
Margit
Quote: OJGG

I would like to say that many companies already make graters of the Berner type. Berner was bought from me in 1995. Many years have passed since then, it is still working. About two years ago I bought another grater (the old one remained in another place), but I don’t remember exactly made it, somewhere like in Orel. So here is a new grater of better quality. It is classic, and on the inserts it is written in Russian - thick, thin. The knives are as sharp as Berner's. For two years it has been serving faithfully. And its price is 250 rubles. So you don't have to pray just for Berner!
OJGG It would be nice, of course, to see a photo of your grater.
I had no luck with the graters, I changed the graters after a year, it didn't serve for the most time.
Also ours, domestic, orange from 5 inserts and a frame. Narrow, almost as high as Burner. But she does not do what the Burner grater can and does not have such inserts, the blades dull quickly, or fly out of the plastic frame ... There was also a similar one to Berner, Grater Burner (1)
dopleta
Quote: Murmyau

Girls! but you have no desire to switch to an electric grater, but not hand? There are a lot of food processors, isn’t a grater better and not replaceable? Or maybe someone has already changed and can advise an alternative to the manual Berner? I'm in search of such an assistant, and if you also grind the meat and beat the cream and dough, it will be complete happiness .. but only Kenwoods 10 and 20 for 800-1200 bucks do not offer
I have these electric floats - it's hard to count! But I will never give up Berners, that is, Berners (also a few)! Mrrr meow, You have already asked your question in various topics, but you have already been answered: there is no device that meets all your requirements, since your condition - cutting into cubes - is answered only by Bosch, Philips, a meat grinder and a vegetable cutter Moulinex, a vegetable cutter Ariete (but the latter even does not make sense to consider).
Mrrr meow
Quote: dopleta

I have these electric floats - it's hard to count! But I will never give up Berners, that is, Berners (also a few)! Mrrr meow, You have already asked your question in various topics, but you have already been answered: there is no device that meets all your requirements, since your condition - cutting into cubes - is answered only by Bosch, Philips, a meat grinder and a vegetable cutter Moulinex, a vegetable cutter Ariete (but the latter even does not make sense to consider).
this is what stops me in buying and does not allow me to decide .. it will be a shame to buy an electric one, so that later you can still buy a manual one ..
there is also an anarezka in cubes in Nyser .. so I think how to combine all this and not miscalculate.
It turns out that the expected shredder quality is still not obtained in electric combines?
dopleta
Quote: Murmyau

It turns out that all the same, in electric combines, the expected shredder quality is not obtained?
Why does it work? The shredder suits me in everyone except Arieta, and the cubes in Boche.
Quote: Murmyau


there is also an anarezka in cubes in Nyser.
Are you asking about electric ones? There are many mechanical ones.
Mrrr meow
Quote: dopleta

Why does it work? The shredder suits me in everyone except Arieta, and the cubes in Boche
only cubes in Boch suit? why slicing and shredding is bad? don't grind meat in it? I am all worried about this power, 800 somehow confuses ..
dopleta
Quote: Murmyau

only cubes in Boch suit? why slicing and shredding is bad? don't grind meat in it? I am all worried about this power, 800 somehow confuses ..
Not bad, great! I just answer your questions as they are posed! You all the same, than to suffer so much, strain and read the topic. All the same (I repeat what Rina has already told you) - there is no such other apparatus yet! The maximum possibilities, taking into account the cubes - only he has.
lesik_l
Quote: Murmyau

: crazy: that's exactly why and I suffer, that I read .. less b read, long ago b bought something on the advice of a consultant in the store .. thanks))

Murmyau, what was that? Thanks for the advice? You help me, and I will spit on you from above.
Mrrr meow
lesik_l, You scare me with such conclusions that you do not understand in the word "thank you))" ?? and where does "I will spit on you from a height"? What are you talking about?
lesik_l
Murmyau, yes, I reread all the messages - I did not understand what you want. You reject all the options, and if you wish to re-read the previously available topics, write
Quote: Murmyau

I would read less, I would have bought something long ago on the advice of a consultant in a store ..
If you do not need advice, why do you ask?
Mrrr meow
Quote: lesik_l

Murmyau, yes, I reread all the messages - I did not understand what you want. You reject all the options, but if you want to re-read the previously available topics, write If you do not need consultations, why do you ask?
What do you think I'm doing here? do not consult? you distort the meaning and turn everything over, and if you reread my messages, then you read the phrase like: the more I read, the more I get confused and while I read one, the previous one flies out of my head. What surprised you? Am I the only one asking and doubting before buying? Isn't the topic and forum for that? I, if I cannot / do not want / do not consider it necessary to advise, pass by and teach no one to live and write posts. It is necessary to react softer and with understanding to a beginner who is confused in search of a purchase and choice)) and in general, such negotiations should be conducted in a personal and not interfere with those who read for a grater.
I think the moderators will fix it
OJGG
Girls, patriotic one to one Brown will be! So why take a photo = it's the same Brown Orange! The main thing ours began to do not better than the quality of imported ones, but five times cheaper! And then I bought a brown combichipser (that's what it's called). Well, what for I needed it - I wanted to make cubes, but it turns out that I also need to cut it beforehand (I later read on the forum that I need to cut it myself, but nothing is written in the instructions). You can also do it in the classics, only 360 rubles. threw it away.
OJGG
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She was so dry, but Berner was white and she was also dry. But the price is five times less, and the quality - fingers also fly off with meat! The main thing is that when buying, it was not a pity to throw it away, but it turned out to be quite good. Small, but nice.
mowgli
I also doubted and also asked. As a result, I bought the Trend set. Standing on the table in the box, I don’t put it away at all and I bought a pot, I also like it in operation. The daughter ordered herself a Burner. She will probably buy it already. I will accept, although the cubes, as I understand now, are not really needed. For everyday use, Burner is best and I do not regret ... especially for cabbage soup ... mmmm ... once-and-it's done ...
lesik_l
How are cubes not needed? This is my most requested feature. Finely chop the onion for cutlets, fry - please, carrots, parsley for soup - excellent.
Pogremushka
Quote: lesik_l

How are cubes not needed? This is my most requested feature. Finely chop the onion for cutlets, fry - please, carrots, parsley for soup - excellent.

Do you cut parsley on a berner? How?
irysska
Yes, Berner is a wonderful grater, but after my adventure with the finger, I am afraid of it and do not use it. So it lies in the locker 630 UAH. dead weight. As I see it, the spurs are already entering (as the people say). And nowhere to put, and I can not use it - that's how a task
mowgli
Quote: lesik_l

How are cubes not needed? This is my most requested feature. Finely chop the onion for cutlets, fry - please, carrots, parsley for soup - excellent.
I don't need potatoes, I cut them in short pieces. for the soup completely. and for the sauce and frying I turn so that the slices are long / but this is how I adapted ... and if I bought it I think I would use cubes too ... I'll take my daughter I'll take it
tatjanka
Quote: irysska

Yes, Berner is a wonderful grater, but after my adventure with the finger, I am afraid of it and do not use it. So it lies in the locker 630 UAH. dead weight. As I see it, the spurs are already entering (as the people say). And nowhere to put, and I can not use it - that's how a task
irysska, urgently get the grater out of the cabinet, such an assistant is messing around. And the fingers are well preserved in the fruit holder. : nyam: For me personally, this grater is a godsend. (y) Previously, we had a non-branded one (from cheap ones), they rarely used it, and left for my mother's dacha. When I bought Berner, I was afraid it would be the same, and I’m even going to waste money. : yes: Now, without her, nowhere, I'm even surprised myself, here. : girl_love: I advise everyone! And you have to pay for quality.
fakell
Quote: fakell

1. Tried the Pizza Grater for beetroot salad. The size was not very suitable, a bit big for us. But this is not for everybody.
But for the noodles, I think it will be good, I plan to try. Then I will unsubscribe.
I tried a dough grater. It turns out large noodles, not uniform (hard to grate frozen dough) Grate immediately into the hot broth.
Who uses this noodle grater? How do you do it?
I was still pleased with the result.
Venta
Please tell me, is there any difference between these waffle graters besides the design? Well there .. wave width, slicing thickness? I don’t understand from the photo, maybe someone saw both of them live? Berner is not for sale with us, I will order on the Internet, so I'm toiling. The price of white is even cheaper by 150 rubles

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I also want to order Rocko. Since I don't have 1.6 mm)) While my toad is sleeping)))

And another question - is a carrot sharpener the right thing or figs with it?))) I understand that it gives out shavings like from a pencil, but how does it look like a rosette or what nonsense

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tatjanka
Quote: Venta

Please tell me, is there any difference between these waffle graters besides the design? Well there .. wave width, slicing thickness? I don’t understand from the photo, maybe someone saw both of them live? Berner is not for sale with us, I will order on the Internet, so I'm toiling. The price of white is even cheaper by 150 rubles

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Venta, I had the same question, see here.https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2844.0 As a result, I bought Deco-Star.
Venta
Thank you. Perhaps I will also lean towards Deco ... It seems to me visually that it will be more convenient to hold it) Well, the width in some cases can also be important
Margit
Venta
There is one difference between these waffle graters, the first is a little wider, it is called the Deco Star wafer grater (Trend model), the second Classic waffle grater is a classic. Pay attention, the classic Is narrower than Deco is old and as if on legs. Deco has an old (trend model) semicircular bottom, it is more problematic to put on emphasis and rub, but, of course, you can get used to it. If you decide to purchase a complete set of vegetable cutters, then of all the graters, in my opinion, it is better to purchase the Trend model. This model is made of higher quality plastic than the Classic model. And second, it is more convenient and easier to use than the new Prima. And third, there are all inserts to it, including 1.6, which Prima does not have.
Margit
Quote: Pogremushka

But Trend has no dicing. Or is there?
As practice has shown, they work well and So
julifera
Quote: Margit

it is better to purchase the Trend model ... - more convenient and easier to use than the new Prima.
And third, there are all inserts to it, including 1.6, which Prima does not have.

Margit

And why is the new Prima less convenient?
I have a VIP-4, so I'm thinking whether to update to Prima, giving the VIP to my parents, or not
They have some kind of remote berner, but they are still satisfied.
Margit
julifera
I don’t like that Prima doesn’t lie down on the boat right away, you need to catch the grooves. The trend falls immediately and somehow very thoroughly. I don’t like the fact that it takes more time to switch to slicing thickness on Prima than on Trend. Of course, these are seconds, but I'm used to working quickly, I don't like digging. I don't like that for the 1.6 insert I had to buy another grater. Of course, in the summer, two or three graters will not interfere with blanks, but it is unpleasant - there is no insert 1.6 in the Prime, and is not expected. The trend as an employee is good in the kitchen, and Prima - she is the prima, a little capricious, although beautiful.
Venta
MargitI have a V-Prima kit just) It is quite convenient. I want to additionally buy these graters. A waffle for decorative, Rocko for a Korean one, and so I don't need a 1.6 insert, just like a pot.
Iriska
Quote: Margit

julifera
The trend as an employee is good in the kitchen, and Prima - she is the prima, a little capricious, although beautiful. :
SAVE-PAMAGITE !!!! What to choose: Prima or Trend? Firstly, as a gift (upon request regarding convenience and versatility; secondly, ... well, I really liked yours, girls and boys, reviews about this thing, well, I really liked it so much, I want myself too. And thirdly, I don’t like to hit my face in the dirt with my gift.
Iriska
Quote: Venta

MargitI have a V-Prima kit just) It is quite convenient. I want to additionally buy these graters. A waffle for decorative, Rocko for a Korean one, and so I don't need a 1.6 insert, just like a pot.
I apologize wildly, but why 1.6 and sudoku are not required?
Pogremushka
Quote: Iriska

SAVE-PAMAGITE !!!! What to choose: Prima or Trend? Firstly, as a gift (upon request regarding convenience and versatility; secondly, ... well, I really liked yours, girls and boys, reviews about this thing, well, I really liked it so much, I want myself too. And thirdly, I don’t like to hit my face in the dirt with my gift.

Choose any, especially if you do not know the intricacies of the type: do you need a container, insert 1.6 mm, cubes. With Berner, you won't fall on your face anyway
mowgli
: girl_skakalka: and I really like the skakalka, its capacity is about 2 liters. rubbed something, threw it into the soup, cut the potatoes on a grater while the frying is done, the cabbage is waiting in it for its time, conveniently. I like..
Zvezda askony
Quote: mowgli

: girl_skakalka: and I really like the skakalka, its capacity is about 2 liters. rubbed something, threw it into the soup, cut the potatoes on a grater while the frying is done, the cabbage is waiting in it for its time, conveniently. I like..
And I only have a vessel and use it.
The grater itself is on the shelf. Nothing works. And what turns out for a long time, is slow and then it takes longer to clean and wash
In general, I am disappointed
I bought Prima + sudok + "house" for graters "
In general, a thing for those who know how to use it.
Pogremushka
Quote: Zvezda Askony

And I only have a vessel and use it.
The grater itself is on the shelf. Nothing works. And what turns out for a long time, is slow and then it takes longer to clean and wash
In general, I am disappointed
I bought Prima + sudok + "house" for graters "
In general, a thing for those who know how to use it.

Without Ken, I would quickly learn
mowgli
there you need to gain a little speed. but even my daughter has adapted to her and if we eat where we take her with us
Venta
Quote: Iriska

I apologize wildly, but why 1.6 and sudoku are not required?

Firstly, this insert does not go in the V-Prima set, and it is not and will not be separately for this modification of the grater. And to buy another grater because of this insert, especially since I very rarely cut so finely - there is no need, I will buy it for a Korean carrot, it is just that, but several times cheaper than a set) And a sudok is a matter of personal preferences how convenient. I don’t like to cut in a horizontal plane, I’m very uncomfortable, I’d better put the grater while standing or put it in a bowl at the angle I need))) Moreover, there is enough of all kinds of containers in the house, all calibers)))

And if you really want to, you can always buy it, it's business)

And what to choose - that's just - I already wrote - there are no 1.6 mm knives in Prim, but in Trend and Classics there is such an insert. Trend is cheaper than Prima - the cheapest Classic, then Trend, then Prima, and the most expensive Pro, like (because it is metal, not plastic). The design is slightly different - look, suddenly, and this is important)
The basket is NOT included in the kit, it is bought separately - here you need to be more careful, it seems that you had to choose a grater for your model - I read that it might not fit in size. The 10 mm insert is also purchased separately if necessary. There are also all sorts of separate graters.
metel_007
Quote: Pogremushka

Without Ken, I would quickly learn
I cannot live without my "Prima". Even the onion for the herring is chopped on it. Also, not everything worked out right away, but now everything is OK. The main thing is to use the holder so that there are no injuries and then, as a result, be afraid to even take it in your hands.
lega
Quote: Venta

I will buy for a Korean carrot, it is just that but several times cheaper than a set)

I agree with you that buying another grater for the sake of this insert is not very reasonable ... But the Korean grater is less convenient, it quickly clogs up and rinsing it afterwards is a big deal ... I had a grater for Korean carrots for many years and almost never was used, and not so long ago I bought inserts for 10 and 1.6 for my classics ... And it turned out that 1.6 is perfectly used for carrots in salads ... and washing it is incomparably easier than Roco.
If someone else does not have a kit, but is just choosing, then you need to keep in mind the ability to add these convenient inserts.
Margit
Quote: Venta

... And the sudoku is a matter of personal preferences, whoever is more comfortable. I don’t like to cut in a horizontal plane, I’m very uncomfortable, I’d better put the grater while standing or put it in a bowl at the angle I need ...
It's all a matter of time and habit. I know from myself that everything that once seemed convenient to me, that it seemed better, and was not necessary, over time it turns out that this is not so, and I missed a lot, and even lost in something.
Quote: metel_007

I cannot live without my "Prima". Even the onion for the herring is chopped on it. Also, not everything worked out right away, but now everything is OK. The main thing is to use the holder so that there are no injuries and then, as a result, be afraid to even take it in your hands.
Likewise! Although at the time I use it nothing at all!
Using the holder is almost the main condition for successful work on the grater.
matroskin_kot
And Ken, on the contrary, is more burdensome to me than Berner. Collect-disassemble-wash one borscht soup ..... For blanks, yes, I put a bowl and chop it, it is harder to chop with Berner huge reserves for salads-twists, but all the same - onions and cabbage on Berner are more accurate ...
Svetik_
Girls, I'm too lazy to shred something on Ken, I shred a hotz at a time, so that there was a lot - this is just Berner needed right ???
I wanted to at first, but now it has cooled down a little ....... I love fried cabbage, while you chop it with your hands, you look ... a lot, but in a pan ............... ....... already gone: girl_haha: There is a lot to do hottsa to fry in two rounds
So much money, so far bad thoughts about buying are not ripe, but I still look at this device

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