GTI Tatiana

For dinner tonight Stuffed peppers in a creamy tomato sauce.
Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD1 Eco
| Alexandra |
Quote: GTI

All manufacturers say you can fry without oil. I run an oil brush along the bottom of any Steba frying pan and bowl, it comes out without oil.
I only have stainless steel, you and it without oil?
GTI Tatiana
| Alexandra |, meat on stainless steel. frying pan without oil. In general, I did not put it right, it meant non-stick dishes.
kirch
Quote: EvgeniaK
only with plastic spoons
Now somehow everyone uses silicone, they are safer than plastic
Bijou
Quote: | Alexandra |
Well, of course - this is not a very calm situation, that under the coating, if there is aluminum, it also happens to be different, or maybe some other layer.
Oh well ... I don’t believe that Shteba put “dirty” aluminum in her pans, which can be poisoned. I have been frying in my old aluminum and silumin pans for a long time and with pleasure.
lega
Quote: Bijou

Oh well ... I don’t believe that Shteba put “dirty” aluminum in her pans, which can be poisoned. I have been frying in my old aluminum and silumin pans for a long time and with pleasure.
Shteba (like any other company) here may have its own economic reasons and should not be compared with Soviet pans. Old Soviet aluminum dishes were made of special alloy grades, no coating was supposed, therefore, the requirements for the quality of the metal were determined by GOST. Now the dishes are made with a coating, so it is possible that the metal under the coating is of a different quality. How dangerous can it be?
marinastom
And in general, as Pakat says, life is harmful, they die from it.
Masinen
lega,
How dangerous can it be?
This question should be asked in the sections of other companies in which the ceramic coating from the bowls is chipped off. And in general it is not known what they do for spraying the bowls, because it smells awful,

And Shteba has control at the factory and they check 100 times before releasing a batch from the factory.
Therefore, Shteba's buyers should not worry. Everything is all right here,
Yes, there was a batch with a marriage, but the firm changed the bowls to buyers at their own expense, those for free.
And that says something.

And other firms have sold and forgotten, so they do not care about the quality of their goods. The main thing was to sell.
julia_bb
Quote: marinastom
And in general, as Pakat says, life is harmful, they die from it.
I agree, I support, you need to think about health and safety, of course, but without fanaticism ...
GTI Tatiana
And Teflon bowls in Germany do not seem to be sold. There is only stainless steel, that is, therefore, ECO.
The base in teflon and ceramic bowls is the same, the coating is different.
GTI Tatiana
Quote: Masinen
Yes, there was a party with marriage

And this batch with 100% control went on sale! It is certainly good that this marriage was exchanged. A big plus for manufacturers. But the consumer still has sediment ((
vernisag
And I bought such a defective cup, three times cheaper, now I can't even understand where she had something wrong there
Masinen
Tatyana, the main thing is that everything was fixed.
This is a big plus)
GTI Tatiana
Mash,
Quote: Masinen
This is a big plus)
I also say plus. And there is a hole in the old woman. I love my Stebushka. Maybe I'll buy a 6-liter one, with new functions.
EvgeniaK
thanks everyone for the opinions

Tatyana, the fact of the matter is that they are not for sale here, ordered and transported with an opportunity. I started using it only in July.

We need to look for silicone spoons, I had these and I did not look for others.

Interestingly, and the representative of Shteba can tell what kind of metal is there?
GTI Tatiana
Spoons are good only silicone coated dishes with any coating. Any dusting will wear off and can be damaged even by plastic. Stebe goes to plastic asceauars, because the main bowl is stainless steel, and she is not afraid of anything anyway. But perhaps in the future the manufacturer will change the paddles to silicone and comfortable ones. And these can not be produced at all and not be wasted on production.
EvgeniaK
I have 1 spatula like a silicone one - with a soft tip, she now needs to do everything while there are no others.

The scratch seems to be small, but there is a deposit. There are two small children in the house (one really does not eat 5 meters yet, but the older one eats with us from this saucepan), so I would like to be sure that I will not harm them.
GTI Tatiana
Evgeniya, cooked in alum. dishes just do not store in it. And I have the same aluminum basket for a double boiler. Do not worry so) And in general, all these coatings are invented so that food does not stick when cooking.
The people do not throw out the scratched pans, they cook in them (mostly Adults and everyone is alive)
GTI Tatiana
Quote: lga
Old Soviet aluminum dishes were made of special alloy grades, no coating was supposed, therefore, the requirements for the quality of the metal were determined by GOST.

It is about such Gostovsky that Ms. Malysheva says “LOW!” But our grandmothers did not know and used with pleasure, we were fed from them, I still have them in the dacha attic.
EvgeniaK
Tatyana, Thank you
Shtebovich
Quote: GTI

Stebe goes to plastic asceauars, because the main bowl is stainless steel, and she is not afraid of anything anyway. But perhaps in the future the manufacturer will change the paddles to silicone and comfortable ones. And these can not be produced at all and not be wasted on production.

Earnestly. Let's change
EvgeniaK
Shtebovich, but can you say something about the metal used for the Teflon coating?)
Matilda_81
Shtebovich, of course not quite Temko. but there will still be a seandvichnitsa n in 1, with different panels, like the tefal now released? thanks in advance for your reply.
Shtebovich
Quote: EvgeniaK

Shtebovich, but can you say something about the metal used for the Teflon coating?)


Evgenia, to be honest, I have no idea what's wrong with the metal. I can answer you as a user of a similar bowl and as an employee of the Steba representative office, and you choose. Only you can decide what to do with the bowl.

1. My Teflon bowl was also initially slightly worn out + for a year and a half of use there is some damage, but it does not bother me and I continue to cook. There are things that worry me much more than a scratch on a bowl

2. You are in Germany - call the Germans, ask a question or write to them by mail. I don’t know any manufacturers that provide a detailed description of the metal the bowl is made of. And we are not given such data.
lega
Quote: Masinen
This question should be asked in the sections of other companies in which the ceramic coating from the bowls is chipped off.

Masinen, Masha, you don't need to throw slippers at me. This is not a reproach to Stebe, but a response to Bijou's remark.
It is useless to ask this question, even to Stebe, or to other companies (here I absolutely agree). You just need to understand for yourself that it is not correct to compare Soviet pots and pans with modern coated dishes.
For example, for the production of food products and equipment, aluminum alloys of the AK5M2, AK7, AK12 and AK9 grades can be used. The use of other grades of alloys in the manufacture of equipment and products in contact with food is possible only after permission from the health authorities. In food grade aluminum alloys used for equipment, the proportion of lead should be within 0.015 percent, zinc - 0.3, beryllium - 0.0005.

Aluminum alloy AK5M2, intended for the production of food equipment, a special marking is applied with the letter "P" after the main designation. This alloy can also be used in the manufacture of household utensils. If it is intended to use an internal protective coating in household aluminum utensils, then an alloy of the AMTs brand can be used, the chemical composition of which meets the requirements of GOST.

A story from life ... In my distant youth, I worked in the supply department of one organization on whose balance there was a pioneer camp. Preparation for the work of the camp always began long before the arrival of the children. The camp canteen ordered large-sized aluminum trays (I don't remember for what needs exactly), but it was impossible to buy these trays at that time. The chief engineer of our organization negotiated with the production where they could be made. We waited for this dish for quite a long time precisely because we were not able to immediately necessary to deliver a brand of rolled aluminum. If not for this story, then I would also think that aluminum is all the same.

I hope everyone understands that now is a completely different time and Marx was right in saying:
“Provide capital with 10% profit, and capital agrees to any use, at 20% it becomes lively, at 50% it is positively ready to break its head, at 100% it violates all human laws, at 300% there is no crime that it does not I would dare to go, at least under pain of the gallows "
Or do you think that Shteba is a happy exception to this rule, especially since GOST allows the use of other brands? Perhaps ... I am not saying anything, but if the producers were all decent, then there would be no forum ... We would buy bread and sausage in the store ...

And about harm to health, everyone is free to choose how to relate to this. Absolutely all adults know what is good for health, what is bad, but nevertheless ...
Personally, I am not particularly worried and have been using dishes with Teflon for more than 30 years, and have used a scratch ... And I use a microwave ... But this does not mean that others should do the same.
Shtebovich
Quote: Matilda_81

Shtebovich, of course not quite Temko. but there will still be a seandvichnitsa n in 1, with different panels, the type of tefal now released? thanks in advance for your reply.


No news yet.
Matilda_81
Quote: S-t
No news yet.
sorry but we will wait
Shtebovich
there is a 3 in 1 model Steba SG 35
It was removed from production, but then another batch was released.
Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD1 Eco
Bijou
Quote: lga
And about harm to health, everyone is free to choose how to treat it. Absolutely all adults know what is good for health, what is bad, but nevertheless ...
Personally, I am not particularly worried and have been using dishes with Teflon for more than 30 years, and have used a scratch ... And I use a microwave ... But this does not mean that others should do the same.
Naturally.
But few people take the trouble to grasp the essence of the issue. I have seen how a teflon frying pan with a scratch on the coating is thrown out in a family with horror, and at the same time a pot with a chipped enamel has been living for many years.

And about myself, I'll tell you even more - I plan to rip the old Tefal off of the coating and see what happens.)) What if it starts to fry as nicely as another aluminum one?
Rick
Quote: GTI
It is about such Gostovsky that Ms. Malysheva says "LOWER!"
Ms. Malysheva's opinion is just the personal opinion of Ms. Malysheva. And everyone is taken for the ultimate truth just because it is said on TV.
GTI Tatiana
Quote: Bijou
I plan to rip off the old Tefal woman from the coating and see what happens.)) What if it starts to fry as nicely as another aluminum one?

Lena, I did just that with Tefalskovoroda. Clean up la it with sandpaper to a shine. It fries perfectly on a gas stove, but bad on a ceramic surface, since the bottom of the pan is already humped. I bake such pancakes in the country.
marmelad
I will insert my five cents into the discussion
Quote: GTI
Stebe comes with plastic accessories
By the way, this spatula came with me with such a manufacturing defect - the tail of the connection is right in the middle of the spoon, which I had to grind down and use with Teflon no longer ice anyway. there will still be micro-scratches.I use other teflon spoons.

As for aluminum dishes, how many generations of Soviet people grew up on it and were alive and well. now there are much more sick people, both children and adults, from food products, in which they do not add anything to smell / color / reduce the cost of production.
julia_bb
As for the shoulder blades - when I got Shteba and looked at them - I immediately realized that it was better not to use them for a non-stick bowl, and then I found that this thread was also mentioned. And in Panas, by the way, there are also plastic blades in the kit, I don't know what kind of MV are the silicone ones?
GTI Tatiana
these scapula-spoons in all CB and MV are the same
Bijou
GTI Tatiana,
Just my Privilezhka is still working on the sly, I cook stews in it in large portions - it's large, 28 cm, I don't have a second such frying pan for induction, and I'm not a fan of stewing in aluminum, just fry. Therefore, I keep an oily (poisonous) film on aluminum dishes, like on cast iron.

Quote: GTI
these scapula-spoons in all CB and MV are the same
Vooot ... And now Shteba will become famous for his sane shoulder blades.
* if competitors don't get ahead *
GTI Tatiana
Quote: Bijou
just fry. Therefore, I keep an oily (poisonous) film on aluminum dishes, like on cast iron.

Exactly.
Matilda_81
Quote: julia_bb
I do not know which MV are silicone ones?
Mulek Vitesse, in my opinion, had silicone spatulas
GTI Tatiana
Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD1 Eco
Curd improvisation. Who does not have a non-stick bowl, you can bake in a silicone mold, which is inserted into the stainless steel. bowl.
marinastom
Tanya, how to take it out? Or is the product below the edge of the mold?
GTI Tatiana
marinastom, Marina, my cottage cheese was only 340 gr. The form is half full. In general, just turn it over. Pull out of the bowl by the edges. Cover with a plate and flip the clap quickly.
Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD1 Eco
marinastom
Cool! I also looked at the shapes that would fit in size.
julia_bb
Tatyana, cool baking dish and casserole
And the size came up like a 19 cm diameter somewhere, right?
GTI Tatiana
Yulia, below the diameter is 13 cm, at the top along the outer edge 24 cm, and the height is 8 cm.
julia_bb
Thanks for the measurements, Tanya, outwardly it seems wider .... And where did you buy the mold?
GTI Tatiana
Yulia, I don’t remember where I bought it))) There seem to be a lot of them everywhere. Not so long ago I saw different ones in Tescom.
Loksa
GTI Tatiana, is it a casserole or an omelette? Appetizing!
GTI Tatiana
Loksa, Like cheesecake) Small dose for 340 g of cottage cheese,
*Kristina*
Hello. Please tell me where and how to buy a stem with a delayed start and additional. a non-stick bowl? The problem is that in Ukraine they are not available at all, and if there is, then without a delayed start and temperature control. About a bowl and not dream, OU really want.
Roza_Irina
Christina, take the new Steba DD2 ECO. I bought myself, there is temperature regulation from 30 to 150 * and a delayed start. The teflon bowl fits from the dex-40 pressure cooker. But this store promised to bring original bowls. I have already ordered - I'm waiting.

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