Zhivchik
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I usually open "secrets" only after I have eaten / drunk.
Knows less - sleeps better

And he still does not know what was so viscous there.
And he won't know.

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Zhivchik, and yourself?

Since my husband didn't really want coffee, he left me 100 grams.
I finished this gag. And nothing ... I wanted to eat even more.
* kisena
Zhivchik , strange.
I have been drinking for 4 days (1 cup each) and it seems to me that even during the day there is not such an appetite as before agar
kleskox35
Conclusion: you need to drink cocoa, after cocoa I also have no urge to eat and really less appetite, but how many people have so many reactions. For example, if I drink coffee at night, then that's it, until one in the morning I clap my eyes. And my friend does not drink coffee during the day due to the fact that five minutes after coffee she has a sound and healthy sleep
Zhivchik
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Zhivchik , strange.

The fact is that I have high acidity and I always want to eat.
* kisena
Zhivchik, I sympathize.
I can't even imagine how to deal with it
Zhivchik
I wanted to lose weight two years ago. I heard from girls that green tea helps. So I drank it in the morning, in the afternoon, and starting from 6-7 pm only green tea and cottage cheese. Plus a few nerves and a stomach ulcer as a result. And in two months (while I was on the strictest diet) I threw off all my extra and necessary pounds.
I had to buy a new wardrobe, because I dropped out of all things.
And then, already in a medical program on TV, they said that excessive consumption of green tea leads to stomach ulcers.
* kisena
Zhivchik , this is the story
No wonder I do not accept any diets, and I drink green tea no more than 2-3 cups a day.
The result is obvious, but the price is too expensive.
Freken Bock
I cannot agree with the role of green tea in the development of Zhivchik's ulcer. My family is from Central Asia, my parents do not drink green tea, but, excuse me, they jam it. And the local population has this drink number one. Gastritis and peptic ulcer disease are no more common than anywhere else. A peptic ulcer is an infection + a number of predisposing factors, of which the most important are stress and errors in the diet.
nut
And with me there was such a case: I decided to lose a little weight, bought green tea expensive, had a little breakfast and drank tea, got into the car with my daughter-in-law and went to the supermarket, I was driving, went to the store, I walk and suddenly feel that I was thrown into sweat, everything spun around, the earth disappears from under my feet. I leaned against the counter, all white as a wall can hardly stand, in short, I barely left the store with my daughter-in-law, caught my breath in the fresh air, barely got home. I don’t understand what it was. On the trail. Day drank tea again, stayed at home and the same thing happened again. I threw this tea away and I can't even look at it anymore. Toli drug was there, I don't even know
kleskox35
Nut, but how are you with the pressure? Green tea lowers blood pressure, that's why I treat it with caution, I have a working 90/60 (hypotonic), maybe your blood pressure dropped greatly, hence the problems ...
nut
The fact of the matter is that with pressure everything is normal 120/80 always and everything started literally minutes. 40 after drinking tea, after this incident, there was never such a thing, I don't even know how I was able to get to the house while driving, my daughter-in-law told my mothers let's leave the car and take a taxi, but we will stop the male and the galloping horse, etc. ...
Zhivchik
Yes, I probably gave it all together. Instead of something to eat, I drink green tea (I really wanted to lose weight). I bought it by weight at the Buffet. The pressure is also not all right. My normal pressure, as in kleskox35 90/60. In the eyes it darkens constantly, because.vegetative-vascular dystonia, and fainting in unventilated rooms is mine.
Freken Bock, you're probably right. I had to get nervous then because of the child. Not every day the counselors in the camp seduce a 14-year-old guy.
afnsvjul
And I, as a hypotonic with experience, can also add on my own that only hot green tea reduces blood pressure, and you can drink cold and warm as much as you like. In the summer, it was with cold green tea that I saved myself from the heat. And from the hot, out of ignorance, he also covered the fool. And the only type of green tea is Oolong, which does not reduce pressure. It can be drunk both hot and cold.
Zhivchik
No, I won't dare to drink green tea anymore. Last year I drank linden all year, and now it is mint. Sometimes, if it's a holiday, then I drink black with a cake.
marinal
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And I, as a hypotonic with experience, can also add on my own that only hot green tea reduces blood pressure, and you can drink cold and warm as much as you like. In the summer, it was with cold green tea that I saved myself from the heat. And from the hot, out of ignorance, he also covered the fool. And the only type of green tea is Oolong, which does not reduce pressure. It can be drunk both hot and cold.

Miracles ... how many people have so many opinions ... but I, for example, can't drink green tea at all, because it raises my pressure to such an extent that after one cup my heart flies out and my hands tremble, although I drink coffee calmly. I've heard that green tea contains many times more caffeine than coffee itself.
In our house, green tea only to save ourselves from sunburn
julifera
I read the last 2 pages with interest, you need to add a postscript to the topic title:
"... and tea"

How much just green tea can cause

In addition to black, I can only drink white, and green (no matter how expensive or not very expensive) I can not drink because of the smell and taste, almost all greens give me herring

The rest of the herbal teas do not fit for the same reason - the smell and taste, since childhood I was shoved with these super-useful herbs because of drug allergies, except for herbs and rubbing, there was nothing to treat the body, so I developed a vomit reflex ...

And coffee with us is the first medicine for raising appetite - after it, such a zhor attacks, it is good for my son, but I refrain, I drink only for a headache.
Freken Bock
I am sitting here drinking cocoa with agar ... Such a wonderful thing .. It pacifies somehow ... I am now experiencing a breakdown in a two-month diet, it was not a weekend, but some kind of gastronomic debauchery. Today I spent quite well, but in the evening I can’t, I’m hungry! And this magic kakava does so well inside! ...
Stern
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I read the last 2 pages with interest, you need to add a postscript to the topic title:
"... and tea"

And I'll take all this later to the tea theme.


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And coffee with us is the first medicine for raising appetite - after it, such a zhor attacks, it is good for my son, but I refrain, I drink only for a headache.

And with me, on the contrary! Coffee kills appetite.
lina
green tea? Well, the Japanese greenfield gives herring, I agree. in others I did not notice. I drink it every day, quite a lot, for 10 years, if not more (since we had green tea). and on an empty stomach, green tea is drunk perfectly (y), if before a long trip, then only green tea. what is bad from green tea is sooo individual ... Because I can't drink black tea

In winter, I still really like mint-lemon balm-chamomile, with honey
afnsvjul
But the agarch really helps to deceive the stomach! I drank cocoa with agar several times already - and it really is a feeling of a full stomach! The truth is, for the first time, I went overboard with a portion, a painfully large glass of cocoa came out, I drank it all and I'm waiting to see what will happen. After about half an hour, the feeling was as if I had crawled out from the New Year's table and there is not a feeling of satiety, but a feeling of a full stomach, and to the very neck. The next time I began to use half a portion - about 100 ml of liquid This is just right for me - instead of dinner. Thank you very much for the recipe - cool!
kleskox35
Julia! Where are you going ?! Wait, an inferiority complex will develop in comparison with you, I'm just a fattrest ...
afnsvjul
It's just that until I was 30 I was thinner than now, and I lost weight easily and quickly, just playfully. And now, it seems that the food is about the same, but the arrow of the scales has steadily started to creep in the direction of increase. Since then I have gained about 3 kg. Then I thought that if I add one kg every year, then in 10 years it is already 10 kg and I became scared. And since I'm used to being thin, then every added kg is very visible. Hence the conclusion - it is necessary to do everything so as not to gain weight, than then take heroic efforts to eliminate them. And the easiest way to keep your weight normal is not to overeat at night. And for this, the option with agar is the most it! Here!
kleskox35
Well, then it is understandable ... this metabolism just became slower after 30, so really here either eat less or move more, and you can also change the diet in favor of less high-calorie foods
Crochet
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there is not a feeling of satiety, but a feeling of a full stomach, and to the very neck
afnsvjul
I understood correctly, that is, when you feel a "full" stomach, eat hotts anyway? Or not ?
kleskox35
Krosh, while Yulia is not there, I will answer, I don't feel like eating, at least for me. Only the dose needs to be selected individually, with my height of 170 cm I need at least 200 ml (or better 250) of cocoa, and Yulia is enough for 100, but she is miniature ...
Crochet
kleskox35
Thank you ! And how much do I need then, with my 1.64 cm? Approximately 150 ml?

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and Yulia is enough for 100, but she is petite ...
So you too ... very miniature, so much smaller then?
Cubic
oh girls and i will knock

such cocoa with agar gives not just a feeling of a full stomach, but satiety! There is also cocoa - in itself it saturates well, interrupts the appetite. And agar is responsible for a full stomach. So, in my opinion - an ingenious drink for losing weight.
kleskox35
I gained 4 kilos after giving birth, I have been fighting for 4 years! So far to no avail
Summer resident
Tell us how to cook cocoa with agar! And then everyone drinks, but I don't know
Crochet
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Tell us how to cook cocoa with agar! And then everyone drinks, but I don't know
Summer resident
HERE ABOUT COCOA WITH AGAR .
Celestine
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Freken Bok, Zhivchik, excuse me, but yesterday my son squeezed me out because of the computer .... he helps and very well! The main thing is not to overdo it with the amount of agar, no more than 4 grams. it just has a laxative effect ...

And my appetite doesn't really beat me off, after an hour I still want to chew
And I didn't have a laxative effect ... let's say the opposite. So I gave it up ... maybe try again
kleskox35
Celestina, and you still have a glass of cocoa in an hour, and see, but in general everything is individual of course. For example, after rice porridge in an hour SUCH zhor attacks !!! But with oatmeal, I can then run up to 2 days and not remember about food ...
Yes, and the laxative effect of agar, I personally come in the morning ...
Summer resident
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Summer resident
HERE ABOUT COCOA WITH AGAR .
Thank you crumb, now I will be useful to play with in the evenings
Celestine
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Celestina, and you still have a glass of cocoa in an hour, and see, but in general everything is individual of course. For example, after rice porridge in an hour SUCH zhor attacks !!! But with oatmeal I can then run up to 2 days and not remember about food ...
Yes, and the laxative effect of agar, I personally come in the morning ...

And after pasta and mashed potatoes, I become so hungry as if I hadn't eaten for a day
Today I will try again cocoa with agar, why should he be wasted, there is still about 400g
Crochet
Summer resident
You're welcome !
Girls, and someone tried to prepare coffee in this manner, is it edible?
nut
And I have been looking at this drink with agar for 2 weeks and still can’t make up my mind in terms of the fact that my stomach does not tolerate milk from early childhood: '(And what should I do, I really want to lose a couple of kg, probably I'll start
Cubic
Quote: nut

And I have been looking at this drink with agar for 2 weeks and still can’t make up my mind in terms of the fact that my stomach does not tolerate milk from early childhood: '(And what should I do, I really want to lose a couple of kg, probably I'll start

why milk? we do not add milk, as well as sugar .. this is a slimming recipe

Crochet, like Zhivchik wrote that you can do coffee like that ..
kleskox35
Not only with milk, I really take 0 or 1%! I need to try soy milk ... Zhivchik tried coffee, it seemed normal, she even gave her husband a drink and nothing, he drank and did not notice! Temka with my light hand and respect to Alexandra (it was in her author's theme that I read it) somehow transformed into cocoa with agar.
Crochet
Girls, once again, for the gifted, is it possible?
1. We cook cocoa either in skim milk or in water, right?
2. What is the best cocoa?
3. Sugar no, no? Not adding?
4. When do we drink and how much?
5. Is it better to drink it hot or let it cool slightly? Or does it make no difference at all?
* kisena
Crochet, a matter of taste.
1 I cook in milk 2.5% (I can't imagine cocoa on water)
2 Cocoa alkalized
3 in the case of agar, you don't even want to add sugar, even if ordinary cocoa is drunk with sugar. Prescription - Sugar Free
4 No more than 2-3 cups per day (250 ml each). Do not replace food with cocoa, but drink after meals, for example, before bedtime, so that you do not feel drawn to the kitchen. Or before dinner.
5I love all drinks hot.

There is no point in making cocoa on water if you don't like milk.
Agar not only in cocoa reduces appetite. You can prepare a dish based on agar-agar, with those products that you like.
Cubic
In the case of agar, it goes great on water !! I had no idea ..

tastes like 99% dark chocolate. if you like chocolate like that, then cocoa will go .. without agar on water did not roll with me, as well as a thick black drink, very nothing

personally for my taste, of course .. I just can't imagine with milk without sugar
Crochet
* kisena
Thank you ! And what a beast-alkalized cocoa and where to buy it?
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Do not replace food with cocoa, but drink after meals, for example, before bedtime, so that you do not feel drawn to the kitchen. Or before dinner.
And why shouldn't cocoa be substituted for food intake and what would it threaten otherwise?
* kisena
Cubic, perhaps. I will not argue, but I believe that not only agar plays a role here.
Milk counts food, and this is additional saturation.
Compare at least tea and tea with milk, it's not only the difference in taste.
To me personally, tea with milk (black or green) seems to be more filling than just tea.
Crochet, not at all.
Alkalized cocoa is more concentrated in flavor, richer than regular cocoa.
You can read about the chemical process here
🔗

Where to buy in Chekhov - I won't tell you, but I ordered from Lily.
Because the body is not stupid. He will not forgive such a deception.
Each time we skip a meal, we thereby "frighten" our body and it wants to eat more as a safety net (suddenly it will be deprived and hurt again) and fat will be stored more actively.
kleskox35
I agree with Cubic, but in general try Krosha in every way you like it and drink it! For example, I haven’t come across alkalized cocoa so far, I have experimented with different brands, the thickest and most saturating (my favorite) RUSSIAN cocoa powder from the Krupskaya factory, “Rossiyskiy” OJSC “Confectionery Association“ Russia ”, Samara, Cocoa van is also suitable (Polish production, the taste is very chocolate). There were several varieties that, after cooking, creaked on my teeth, I got the impression that there was sand there, threw it out, I mostly take these 3 and don't risk it.
Crochet
* kisena
Thank you very much for your answers, advice and explanations. 🔗!
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Cocoa van works too (Polish made, very chocolatey taste).
kleskox35
I have just this, I have not even printed the pack yet. Thank you !
* kisena
Crochet, not at all.

Try it.
For example, after 5 days of daily use it seemed to me that even my appetite decreased a little (a trifle, but how nice).
Then I stopped drinking it.

Recently, when I stewed chicken, I added agar-agar to the cream sauce, so I could eat less than usual

ps something this boom with agar goes into other topics all the time
Celestine
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Compare at least tea and tea with milk, it's not only the difference in taste.
To me personally, tea with milk (black or green) seems to be more filling than just tea.

And for me a more satisfying tea with milk and a pie or cake
Freken Bock
I, a glutton, after a cup of such cocoa (however, any milk that is in the house, and agaga figachu 1 teaspoon) can simply forget about dinner. I confirm about the laxative effect. Note that the effect is not at all the same as that of pills or herbs. How can I put it more delicately? .. Simply, if there is a tendency to constipation, then after cocoa with agar there is a chair.
afnsvjul
This Temka has grown here! I answer the question - I don't feel like eating at all after cocoa with agar. I couldn't even cram my evening kefir into myself. I like to drink cocoa hot, so it is never thick, because as I understood agar thickens when it cools, but I don't let it cool down, it cools down in my stomach.
Hairpin
I also look at you and lick my lips ... is stopped by the fact that I do not drink cocoa or coffee ... only tea ... I will have to try cocoa, Schaub does not come off the team ... Nesquik with a hare in a yellow can will do? Well, so as not to risk it ... otherwise it will turn out to be disgusting, and I will remain torn from the team ...

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