nut
Well mustache, I have cocoa and agar for dinner tonight
Crochet
Quote: Hairpin

Is Nesquik with a hare in a yellow jar okay?
Hairpin
Sly what, do not even dream! Nesquik is with sugar, but we need natural cocoa and sugar-free, well, if we keep equal Alexandru ... And in general, why do you need this, in my opinion your figure does not need correction in any way ...
Quote: nut

Well mustache, I have cocoa and agar for dinner tonight
nut, after dinner or instead?
nut
Nah, instead of dinner, I'll try, I'll see how everything inside will swell up and how I don't want to eat, but I have potato pancakes for dinner today, ohhh how to endure
Crochet
Quote: nut

ohhh how to endure
nut
So you screw the potato pancakes yes with sour cream and drink it down and you will be happy !!!
Hairpin
Quote: Krosh

And anyway, why do you need this, in my opinion your figure does not need correction in any way ...

Needs !!! Okay ... I'll try with a simple ...
nut
Duck what a weight loss then
Crochet
Girls, I put on some cocoa myself, I sit drinking, beee ... I don't like something at all ... maybe I did something wrong ... for 100 ml. water-1 tsp. with top cocoa, 0.5 cof. l. agar ... oh, how it doesn't taste good to me, I'd rather not eat for a week at all than pouring such a byaka into myself (forgive me those to whom it tastes good) ...
P.S. 100 ml. cocoa was drunk with great difficulty for three (me, mom, daughter), about 50 of them got to me ... I couldn't do it anymore, it got sick ... my mom finished the cocoa with a spoon, and then rushed to the kitchen to have something to eat ... a happy one returned from the kitchen with an apple marshmallow in hands teeth ... after two sips of cocoa, the daughter "piled on" Chuchelkins pies with potatoes, I'm the only one left out of work, with 50 ml. cocoa in the stomach ...
Cubic
Quote: Krosh

Girls, I got myself some kakava, I sit drinking, beee ...

Krosh, I, too, in this version could not, began to make a concentrated: tsp with a slide for a coffee cup (about 50 g). Then it was richer and more dense, not ambrosia, of course ... but it seemed to me so much nicer.
afnsvjul
I am on water and do not drink cocoa, I do it on low-fat 2.5% milk, then it turns out much more edible. All the same, you (Krosh) will consume less calories in this case, despite milk, than from a full dinner. And the taste of this drink is highly dependent on the quality of the cocoa. If cocoa is not initially "a fountain", then one should not expect goodies from the drink either.
Crochet
I generally sit and think, but I need it, is it cocoa? I never eat after 17-18 hours ... I just wondered what kind of healthy "yummy" our girls consume, I decided to try it too, so ... to say that I didn't like it is to say nothing .. ...
afnsvjul
This is not really "yummy", it is a means to muffle the zhora during the day and especially in the evening.
Crochet
Quote: afnsvjul

means for suppressing zhora during the day and especially in the evening.
Ahh, well, then I definitely don't need it, because the concept of "zhor" is completely unfamiliar to me ... well, I never have it ...
Zhivchik
Quote: afnsvjul

I answer the question - I don't feel like eating at all after cocoa with agar.

afnsvjul, good for you. And I always want to eat (after Agar too).

Quote: Hairpin

Is Nesquik with a hare in a yellow jar okay?

Hairpin, in Ukraine there is a TV program "Quality Mark". Here in it they somehow tested children's yummy, including "Nesquik". The experts said there are many additives in it and not good ones either.
Do you need this Nesquik? Boil plain cocoa better.
And in general I do not understand why torture myself. You're skinny anyway.

Quote: kleskox35

Zhivik tried coffee, it seemed normal, she even gave her husband a drink and nothing, he drank and did not notice!

Yeah, my husband exposed me. Once again I made him coffee, but something distracted me, I did not bring him coffee with Agar on the sofa. I told him to pour the coffee myself (which is with Agar) and add milk.
Here is a picture: a husband comes in with a cup in his hands and in a bewildered face asks: "What is this?" As I look, my coffee with Agar turned into a gray thick jelly. Of course I had to confess. And before, when I just brew and immediately pour milk, I drank to a sweet soul, and then the coffee cooled down a little and it turned out to be such a bullshit. True, my husband also said that he noticed that some coffee was thick. He thought that I was adding cream, or making foam. So my trick failed.
Crochet
Quote: Zhivchik

And in general, I do not understand why torture myself. You're skinny anyway.
🔗
I also support Nesquik, it's better to use natural cocoa ...
* kisena
An unexpected experience
I get cocoa with agar tasty, no hints of abnormality.
kleskox35
Crumb, but try it on ordinary milk, well, for the sake of experiment? I didn't like it on the water either, but on milk it was just mnyak, very tasty ... maybe the fact is that I love bitter chocolate?
nut
I didn't manage to drink cocoa yesterday (well, the pancakes were very tasty), but today I will definitely try
Crochet
Quote: kleskox35

Crumb, but try it on ordinary milk, well, for the sake of experiment? I didn't like it on the water either, but on milk it was just mnyak, very tasty ... maybe the fact is that I love bitter chocolate?
kleskox35
Persuaded, tonight I will try on skim milk ... and only for the purpose of experiment ...
Quote: nut

I didn't manage to drink cocoa yesterday (well, the pancakes were very tasty), but today I will definitely try
nut
Describe your feelings later?
Crochet
Nuuu ... in general, I tried ... Heaven and earth! Yes, I would agree to eat such cocoa in milk for the rest of my life! It's not just delicious ... it's delicious! And with a pinch of cinnamon is just a holiday of some kind! This taste is completely unacceptable for the addition of sugar (IMHO), it (cocoa) itself is "sweet", perhaps because of milk (milk took low-fat 1.5%) ... That's just ... in short, I read the post again Alexandra about cocoa on agar,Alexandra recommends adding no more than 2 tsp. milk for 250 gr. a cup of cocoa, and even then rather as an exception, not a rule ... So I began to doubt whether cocoa with milk (even if it is low-fat) would be a "slimming" product?
kleskox35
Thank you for "persuading" me to try cocoa on milk, otherwise yesterday's impression of cocoa on water ( 🔗) would leave in my memory not the best memories of the taste of cocoa ...
kleskox35
Will, will be Krosh, if you use it instead of dinner, And if weight loss is not required, so why not get pleasure. Well, how many calories are there ...
afnsvjul
it is necessary to cover at least approximately the energy value of our drink in two versions - on water and on milk. Then it will be known for sure whether the game is worth the candle.
Crochet
Quote: afnsvjul

it is necessary to cover at least approximately the energy value of our drink in two versions - on water and on milk. Then it will be known for sure whether the game is worth the candle.
afnsvjul
Yes, it is not a question to count, of course, but everyone uses milk of different fat content, and the concept of a cup is different for everyone, for example, I have a cup of about 100 ml., And someone has 350, and besides, everyone has different cocoa, accordingly, the calorie content is also different. In general, I really liked yesterday's cocoa in milk, but after I drank it, I realized that for me it was ... a little fatty or something ... I'll try to dilute the milk with water, maybe then it will be just right ... damn it you won't please me ...
nut
I drank cocoa yesterday at 19-00, but it was not so tasty for me.You can say I hardly forced myself to drink it, and already at 10 o'clock I had such a zhor, I wanted to eat right up to nausea, until I ate one candy - even a souffle I couldn't sleep So kakava is not for me I am better according to the old scheme - a light dinner at 5 o'clock and at 8 o'clock tea without sugar or an apple or an orange, the weight goes away gradually and without straining These are my feelings
Crochet
Quote: nut

I drank kakava yesterday at 19-00, but it was not so tasty for me
Oh, this is right about me and the cocoa on the water! So that nut, accept my condolences, I sympathize with you, I myself went through this "horror", only after that cocoa, I didn't even want to turn my head towards food until two the next day, it was so sick ...nut, and you cooked cocoa with water or milk?
Girls, a question to all cocoa fans, how much agar is needed per 100 ml. cocoa? And then I got confused ... I put 0.25 teaspoon, is this normal or not enough? I remember Alexandra advised 0.5 teaspoon per 250 grams. cocoa ... Girls, inject, who puts how much agar?
* kisena
I take 0.5 tsp. for 250 ml of milk.
Hairpin
Inject, inject ... I'm sitting in ambush here !!!
Crochet
Hairpin
So you haven't tried cocoa on water yet? Waking up ... this is a song ... Join us!
Hairpin
Quote: Krosh

Hairpin
So you haven't tried cocoa on water yet? Waking up ... this is a song ... Join us!

Um ... The thing is, I really haven't tried it with water ... not with milk ... or with agar ... no agar!!! So I got stuck in ambush ...
But I wonder, is chocolate very different from cocoa? I drink hot chocolate and I have it ... True, after 250 ml of hot chocolate I will definitely not want to eat, even if it is without agar ...
kleskox35
The recommended dose is 1 g (that is, 0.5 h. L) of agar per 250 ml of liquid, but everything is individual, as I understand it is more than 4 g. a day is not allowed. So if you take a teaspoon of 250, it's okay too, I tried it, there will be THICK cocoa. Hairpin, I practically do not see a difference in taste between liquid chocolate and cocoa with agar - if you put more agar and let it cool slightly. Only without sugar, sugar just spoils the taste
nut
I made crumbs of cocoa on natural milk according to the recipe in response 19 from kleskox35 and when I barely mastered half a cup, I went there, and it asks back and so that the good would not be lost at all, I added half a teaspoon. sugar and I finished it, even my granddaughter stood next to me and looked at me with such compassion: (And what kind of cocoa on the water I don't even want to try brrr
kleskox35
Here, you have to try everything to know! I have such nonsense with kefir, I go there, and he goes back. Somehow I tried to arrange a fasting day ... at lunchtime after another portion of kefir, he climbed back ...: (since then I have no violence on the body! Doesn't fit, so he doesn't need it!
nut
I agree to all 100
Zhivchik
Quote: Krosh

happy with the apple marshmallow returned from the kitchen hands teeth

I don't remember where I found this recipe, but I have it in my notes.

"Sugar-free apple marshmallow on Agar.

1) one medium apple (I took a green one) peeled, cut into 4 parts, removed the seeds, grated on a fine grater
2) added 3 strawberries there (I had frozen ones)
3) put applesauce with berries in the microwave for 3 minutes
4) beat 1 protein to the peaks and "salt" 2 g of agar
5) hot mashed potatoes were mixed into the protein-agar mixture (at the same time, the agar was mixed)

4) preheated the oven to 180 C.
She put baking paper on a baking sheet and sprinkled it with oil from a can (so that nothing would stick)

5) laid out "marshmallows" with a spoon and baked for 10 minutes.
I left the marshmallows in the oven to dry (I did it all night, since I went to bed). In the morning we got a wonderful marshmallow with a thin crust, but inside like a soufflé. "


Maybe someone will come in handy.
* kisena
Quote: kleskox35

and give cool a little.

Better not, since Stoyanova focuses on hot agar liquids.
Only when hot does it reduce appetite, increase food satiety and prolong the feeling of satiety.
kleskox35
Quote: Hairpin

I drink hot chocolate and I have it ...

For lovers of non-standard food sensations, once in Sochi, in a cafe in Prague I drank hot chocolate ... it was thickly sprinkled with cinnamon on top and poured (moderately) with mint liqueur, very unusual and oddly TASTY
Crochet
Quote: Hairpin

But I wonder, is chocolate very different from cocoa? I drink hot chocolate and I have it ...
Hairpin
What's in your hot chocolate? I bought something for my daughter, I remember it included sugar, vegetable cream, flavoring and a bunch of other "byaki" ...
Quote: kleskox35

Only without sugar, sugar just spoils the taste
And I don’t understand hot drinks (tea, coffee, etc.) with sugar, for me it’s something alien ...
Quote: nut

I made cocoa on natural milk according to the recipe in response 19 from kleskox35 and when I barely mastered half a cup, I went there, but it asks back (And what kind of cocoa on water I don't even want to try brrr
nut
It really does taste and color ... it seemed to me that cocoa in milk tasted divine ... or was it after cocoa in water, in comparison ...
P.S. My today's cocoa was cooked in milk (Valio 0%) 50/50 with water, it's still a bit fat ... or not, not so ... too tasty to be considered "slimming". Tomorrow I will try 1/3 of the milk, the rest is water ... I feel that at this rate I will still return to cocoa with 100% water ... Experimenting for 3 days, but more than 100 ml. I would never have drunk, even after so many "bursts" from the inside ...
Cubic
But this morning I drank coffee with agar .. I don’t want to eat all day, I eat, but somehow very little (it starts to burst right away). Maybe I wasted all this time at night drinking agar? It was necessary in the morning to immediately - and for the whole day
Crochet
Cubic
So Ol, it's time for you to tie up with cocoa, otherwise at such a pace, you will soon turn into an invisible man ...
Cubic
Quote: Krosh

Cubic
So Ol, it's time for you to tie up with cocoa, otherwise at such a pace, you will soon turn into an invisible man ...

oh, how far is it
Hairpin
Quote: Krosh

Hairpin
What's in your hot chocolate? I bought something for my daughter, I remember it included sugar, vegetable cream, flavoring and a bunch of other "byaki" ... And I don't understand hot drinks (tea, coffee, etc.) with sugar, for me it is something alien ...

Well, that's my chocolate. And the ingredients ... it seems okay ... it seems to me ...

Hot chocolate, cocoa, cappuccino ... Hot chocolate, cocoa, cappuccino ... Hot chocolate, cocoa, cappuccino ...
afnsvjul
And the ingredients ... it seems okay ... it seems to me ...

Wow, that's okay, but what about the E410 stabilizer?
Freken Bock
Girls, a question! If I take such a kakava to work, it will, of course, freeze. And if I heat it up in a micro, it will be liquid again. Will agar solidify again? This is from the category "I knew but forgot."
afnsvjul
E 410 - Locust bean gum thickener and stabilizer consistency improver

I read it, it really isn't scary, but I have a stand for all these E

Receiving

The gum is obtained from the pods of Mediterranean acacia.

physicochemical characteristics

In terms of chemical structure, locust bean gum is similar to guar gum. It is a polymer consisting of non-ionic molecules that are presented in the form of 2000 residues of simple and complex monosaccharides.
Locust bean gum is less soluble than guar gum at low temperatures. It does not dissolve in cold water, so dissolution must take place during heating.
When cooled, it slows down the formation of ice crystals, creating a structured gel.

Application

It is very often used in the preparation of ice cream and various frozen desserts (including dairy ones), cream cheeses, sauces, in the bakery industry.
Hairpin
It seems to me that there are also stabilizers in cocoa ... and in milk ...

Simply Crochet wrote that she was horrified by the composition of the chocolate that she had bought. And I was horrified by the taste of hot chocolate, with which I once started. I bought one in Utkonos, and the second in Pyaterochka. Horror !!!
Crochet
Quote: Hairpin

Simply Crochet wrote that she was horrified by the composition of the chocolate that she had bought. And I was horrified by the taste of hot chocolate, with which I once started. I bought one in Utkonos, and the second in Pyaterochka. Horror !!!
Hairpin
This is where Krosh wrote that she was horrified? Krosh wrote this:
I bought something for my daughter, I remember it included sugar, vegetable cream, flavoring and a bunch of other "byaki"
But it didn’t plunge me into horror, I just didn’t like the composition, for myself I decided not to buy it anymore, by the way I also bought it from Platypus.
Quote: Hairpin

It seems to me that there are also stabilizers in cocoa ... and in milk ...
Is that true?
kleskox35
Freken Bock, agar can be heated and hardened again later, it's not scary.
Girls, what are the stabilizers in cocoa powder and milk ?! What is there to stabilize? There may still be preservatives, and even then they must then be indicated on the package! The shorter the shelf life of a product, the less likely it is to run into preservatives.
Crochet
Quote: kleskox35

agar can be heated and then harden again, this is not a problem.
Wow, great! That is, it turns out that cocoa can be cooked in advance, and then reheated?
Quote: kleskox35

Girls, what are the stabilizers in cocoa powder and milk ?! What is there to stabilize?
I always thought so too ...
Crochet
Girls, yesterday I cooked cocoa on malolactose skim milk VALIO HILA 0%, ugh, it turned out like that, it tastes like sugar (for me all drinks with sugar are 🔗) ... Only I still did not understand why this milk turned out to be sweet?
Freken Bock
Girls, thank you very much for the answer about the re-solidification of agar!
Qween
Girls, I came up with something else:
I boiled cocoa in milk, poured it into a large French press and whipped a little. Cool it happened with chocolate froth on top.

Then came the turn and whipped together until cappuccino - coffee + hot milk. It turns out on top of coffee and milk foam.

Hot milk is whipped well with the addition of grated chocolate. And delicious.

It is interesting for me to whip different hot drinks with milk.

Now I do this and that. It turns out tasty and interesting. Try

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