my_milis
Marfusha5, Thank you so much. So you just need to adapt. I already thought I bought a fake. And I don't really like metal either.
Mirabel
Irina, my_milis, Girls! Why don't you like metal? I keep darting between 2 and can't choose
my_milis
Mirabel, I read the topic and many girls write that the suite is very heavy and the attachments (knives) are not as convenient to change as on plastic ones. There are no 9 mm knives on the plastic one, well, I think I can do without them. Their knives seem to be equally good, and the price of metal is just scary.
Jiri
Mirabel, Vika, if you really take, then iron. In general, I am not overjoyed at him, and in a feast and in peace, and in good people with him. It's not heavy at all. All attachments for Kenwood and others lie in boxes, and this one is a plug for each barrel, quickly and with a minimum of hassle
Mirabel
Well, how many people, so many opinions. I also tend to metal, pay off 70 euros once and enjoy.
aprelinka
Jiri,
Quote: Jiri
All attachments for Kenwood and others lie in boxes, and this one is a plug for each barrel, quickly and with a minimum of hassle
it's even worse for me - an ordinary grater was used
my_milis
Probably the suite is better and more reliable, and if there is a possibility, even more so. I just persuaded myself that plastic is not much worse, I found my advantages and I am quite happy with the purchase.
Jiri
Quote: aprelinka
it's even worse for me - an ordinary grater was used
we survived, Len! Well, the truth is, while you attach this cube cutter, you teach everything with an alligator at a moment, during this time. I have it at hand every day, so I'm used to it. Why do they say that it is heavy? very thorough, it does not jump on the table, even though it thrashes, and does not crack, although toothpicks need to be protected
kirch
I have not used a cube cutter for a combine for a long time. Firstly, it is large and it is dreary to wash then, and secondly, the cubes on the alligator still turn out neater
Biryusa
Quote: aprelinka
it's even worse for me - an ordinary grater was used

Likewise!
And "Vinaigrette" (for boiled cubes)

(And the TNS-300 is such a misunderstanding ...)


Cirre
And the TNS-300 is such a misunderstanding ...

Maybe I'm not overwhelmed with graters, but I have it, I use it and I am very happy
Helen
Quote: Biryusa
And the TNS-300 is such a misunderstanding ...
and I am very happy with her ..: girl_love: I just love her
Biryusa
This means that the "misunderstanding" is me. Neither the Alligator-lux nor the TNS took root in me. Toka Gigant and a regular grater
Cirre
Olga We are all different, my berner did not take root and the giant
Marfusha5
Girls, and I finally made friends with Berner))))))) Now even cucumbers are too lazy to cut into a salad with a knife)))))))): lol: And I really like the rock-grater. Well, the alligator is my favorite. As much as I used to dislike the taste of Olivier on a 6x6 grid, now I only use it on it. I got used to the taste)))
Mirabel
Irina, So I, too, not so long ago, made very good friends with Burner, I had a rest for 5 years, tried to sell, but here he is not needed by anyone .. throw it out - the hand did not rise. I watched the videos on the IRS Tube.
my_milis
Marfusha5, here is one cucumber on a berner? I want to use it more often, probably I need to buy a holder so that there is where to put it after washing. And then it will dry until you take it away
kVipoint
Quote: my_milis
Here is one cucumber on a berner?
Yes, yes, I also do exactly that, very quickly and evenly (you are lazy tobish), I really love both Berner and my alligash, I have metal, well, it's heavy, so far it's not a problem for me, I take it for granted
Marfusha5
Quote: Mirabel
Irina, So I also made friends with Burner not so long ago, I had a rest for 5 years,
I, too, only got a taste on the third attempt)))) having managed to sell 2 Burners, my prima and girlfriend)))))

Quote: my_milis
Marfusha5, is there just one cucumber on a berner?
Yes, one cucumber and 1 tomato)))) Now I have prima again, I rinse it and put it directly with the inserted plug-in to dry so that the child does not get hurt with an open vegetable cutter, and I put the attachments in the box, it flows with holes there ...


Added on Tuesday 24 May 2016 8:54 PM

The most important thing is that I was shouting louder than anyone in the topic that I didn't need a berner, I had enough of an alligator)))) And they actually complement each other very well, each is good in its own way. Loved them both dearly.
my_milis
kViPoint, Marfusha5 I ran to look for a box for my berner. So that, too, one cucumber was not too lazy to get it.
Marfusha5
Quote: my_milis

kViPoint, Marfusha5 I ran to look for a box for my berner. So that, too, one cucumber was not too lazy to get it.

Right)))
Serenity
Quote: Marfusha5
I don't need a berner, I have enough of an alligator)))) And they actually complement each other very well, each is good in its own way
Can you compare a berner and an alligator? Which is better and what do you use each of them for?


Added on Tuesday 24 May 2016 9:05 PM

Quote: my_milis
I ran to look for a box for my berner. So that, too, one cucumber was not too lazy to get it.
I have inserts hanging right above the worktop. The hand stretches itself
kVipoint
Serenity, so they are completely different! In general, before, to cut the potatoes into cubes for frying, I used a berner, now an alligator is more convenient for me because of boxing and probably much less effort, and the speed is faster, I use a berner for rings and other horizontal slices and for carrots, that is, I use a fine grater. I keep the burner and alligash in a drawer at the bottom with a rubberized napkin, they are always at hand and conveniently lie side by side
Serenity
kVipoint, Vita, Thanks for the clarification! And wash it quickly? And besides the small pieces, what does he have useful?
Marfusha5
Quote: Serenity
Can you compare a berner and an alligator? Which is better and what do you use each of them for?
With an alligator, I cut Olivier salads and the like, cut onions into cubes for frying, carrots into pilaf cubes, potatoes for frying in cubes, cubed potatoes into soup, potatoes into french fries with cubes.
With Berner, I chop cabbage, cut cucumbers into cubes and rounds, tomatoes, peppers into salad, round potatoes into stewed potatoes, sometimes potatoes into rhombuses for a child's soup) it looks more fun with diamonds))) Well, so what will come to hand. I use an alligator for cubes, a burner for rounds, mainly for cabbage. I like them very much. Each in its own way.


Added on Tuesday 24 May 2016 09:21 PM

Quote: Serenity
And wash it quickly?
It washes with a quick rinse, sometimes I go through the cells with a brush to pull out slightly stuck food, but more often they fly out with water.


Added on Tuesday 24 May 2016 09:24 PM

I have this type of brush for the alligator and sometimes for the burner, so as not to cut myself.

Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)
kVipoint
Quote: Marfusha5
It washes with a quick rinse, sometimes I go through the cells with a brush to pull out slightly stuck food, but more often they fly out with water.
fully support)))
Mirabel
Irina, Vita, Convinced !!! Thank you! need a metallic and only it! Thank you!!!
Marfusha5
Quote: Mirabel

Irina, Vita, Convinced !!! Thank you! need a metallic and only it! Thank you!!!

Yes, if possible, it is better to take metal immediately, there are more cutting sizes and it is more durable.

fffuntic
A friend's alligator luxury is iron, so we pulled out 2 plastic (rubber) white buttons, which are like brake buttons when pressed, but they also interfere with lifting the cutting part. They take a lot of effort.
And now much easier work as a metal alligator. It is necessary to pull out the two buttons carefully, but with effort, carefully push into the hole, helping with something, so as not to tear the "skirt", it is very carefully to pull it out without damage. If you don't like it later, insert it back.

I have a question about Berner. There were similar graters with a holder, I rejected it because of sharp knives, I somehow didn’t like to press it with the holder, I strove with my hands. But maybe I also missed something in the Berner? Is the holder really convenient to use?


Added Wednesday 25 May 2016 03:52

and..
Quote: Mirabel

Irina, Vita, Convinced !!! Thank you! need a metallic and only it! Thank you!!!
8 pieces is a toy
what if you don't like it? maybe it costs 500 r to first buy and make sure you need it. My relatives rejected this unit, only I am happy with it with my girlfriend.
And if you use it once a month, then the metal will have to be inherited by inheritance
Not ... if this amount does not scare, then no problem ...


Added Wednesday 25 May 2016 04:09

And you can buy an electric cube cutter a small compact one, blenders with this function from Bosch, a filipka and so on.
If you put it on the table, then like an electric kettle takes up space. Bosch has two sizes of cubes, graters, little waste. Of course, the sizes are smaller than on the Berner and Aligator graters, but still convenient.
Ideally, it is good to have at home both a nice-aligator and such an electric grocery cutter. My relatives have such a minibosh, so I already managed to check it out.
The only thing is that he does not have slices.
Mirabel
Quote: fffuntic
maybe worth 500 r first buy
incomparable things, a toy for 500 rubles and a thing for 8 thousand.
In Europe, the metal Alligator costs around 70 euros, of course, this is not a little, but not a very big risk.
Well, trust in the opinion of the people of this forum also strengthens the desire to buy this thing.
There is only one small fear, if I will abandon my 2 electric grocery cutters then
Astilba
An interesting video about Nyser Diser Plus at the Destroyers of TV shops
kVipoint
If you get used to using the holder conveniently, I first cut a cucumber or something long without a holder, and to the end I carefully slowly cut it without a holder, but the onion, on the contrary, with the holder is very convenient, I almost stopped using an electric cutter with an alligator, only for vinaigrette, here are salads like olvier or others only on an alligator, well, very quickly, literally 5 minutes if I spend a lot, or even less, I don't cut potatoes into bunches for soup, I get beautiful and fast on an alligator and store them in a box with water while in soup I will not give up. At first, it seemed like money was a little sorry for him, but this is really the best assistant in the kitchen
fffuntic
Quote: Mirabel

incomparable things, a toy for 500 rubles and a thing for 8 thousand.
In Europe, the metal Alligator costs around 70 euros, of course, this is not a little, but not a very big risk.
Well, trust in the opinion of the people of this forum also strengthens the desire to buy this thing.
There is only one small fear, if I will abandon my 2 electric grocery cutters then
I tried both a cheap craft and a real metal luxury. No matter how sharp the knives are, you need to use force to cut a carrot. If the vegetable is large and you hurry up and shove it in completely, you will press very much to push it through, sometimes you have to "jump".
Vegetables must be prepared so as not to "jump" on the machine.
If you use the unit for one or two carrots, then this is not important. And if there are a lot of vegetables, it may not really like it.

The moving part has to be moved back and forth by hand, this is not an electrical unit. And even on a real alligator, force has to be applied.
By the way, I was just unpleasantly surprised how hard it is to lift up the iron suite, how loudly it knocks.
And the box mount could have been better thought out. It is not particularly "European" turned out. Cleaning is also invented worse than a cheap analogue. The cheap analogue goraazdo has worse quality, of course. But the design is more convenient, just.

I’m not discouraging.
I just warn you that if you use a vegetable cutter for soup for a couple of vegetables, then you can do it cheaper.

And further. The straw is obtained immediately. But as for the cubes, we need dances with tambourines.

I love this unit, but if they did something similar electric with different sizes of straw, I would change it without hesitation.
But so far there is only a mule with large straws and a slow one.

And the design of the original alligator is much inferior to the cheap analogue of the first type of "Niceer", which not "plus" of green color, for ease of use, for very convenient mounting of the box, for ease of washing.The original alligator has only one advantage, but a strong one: quality knives.
Everything else needs some work.
I am already silent about the prehistoric configuration.
dopleta
Quote: fffuntic
And you can buy an electric cube cutter a small compact one, blenders with this function from Bosch
Is this some kind of little Bosch, fffuntic? We have the Bosch ProfiKubixx, but it's not small at all.
fffuntic
Quote: dopleta

Is this some kind of little Bosch, fffuntic? We have the Bosch ProfiKubixx, but it's not small at all.
this Bosch MSM 881X2, it's just like a kettle. But he has a very high price, although the equipment is gorgeous, I hesitate between him and this CENTEK CT-1310, my friend bought the second one from me and it is of high quality, the knives are sharp, the price is good, but only one cube size and fewer grades.

There is also an analogue of filipki, also expensive, but there are different cubes.
Polaris and others do not take into account, disposable.
Jiri
Quote: Mirabel
There is only one small fear, if I will then abandon my 2 electric grocery cutters
most likely you will abandon it, because it is much easier to care for it
Serenity
Quote: fffuntic
I have a question about Berner. There were similar graters with a holder, I rejected it because of sharp knives, I somehow didn’t like to press it with the holder, I strove with my hands. But maybe I also missed something in the Berner? Is the holder really convenient to use?
Convenient when you get used to it. Now it is unpleasant for me to use an ordinary 4-cornered grater, I also want to adapt some kind of holder to it, otherwise the feeling of stiffness, all the time you make sure not to scratch it with your fingernail or finger.
The only thing I don't really like about the holder is that soft vegetables often fly off.
dopleta
Quote: Serenity
soft vegetables often fly off.
Olya, don't raise your hand. Move the holder to the right and left along the plane without raising your hands.
Serenity
Larissa,
Quote: dopleta
Olya, don't raise your hand. Move the holder to the right and left along the plane without raising your hands.
Vegetables sometimes get stuck on inserts with knives.
dopleta
I usually only have the very last slice stuck. when the whole vegetable is already sliced.
Serenity
Larissaespecially the tomato!
Mirabel
fffunticIn general, by and large I'm looking for something for boiled vegetables for salads. I bought the type of Niser, threw it out very quickly, my nerves were not enough to tame him.
But since such an Aligator is a universal ... she began to look at him. But this is only after the vacation, I'll think more ...
Marfusha5
Mirabel, the alligator for salads from boiled vegetables is the best you can imagine. Combines don't cut as neatly as an alligator and wash faster.
Mirabel
Irina, oooh so can no longer rush.
Lisichkalal
So I wandered here! Vika, thank you, you told me about the alligator.
So I had a nice, I gave it away when I bought a combine in cubes. And now, again, like a Niceer, I wanted something. I bought an analogue, cut it once and I don’t know, wash it for a long time somehow. Cuts with pressure.
So is an alligator good for diced raw vegetables? Potatoes, carrots?
Climbed into the Internet, and there are so many different ones, which one to choose? went to read the topic, but it's so long, and buy hotts right now))
Mirabel
Svetlana, Brightwing! in short. I realized that metal is more versatile, but plastic is also not bad at all, in general, people are happy with both. Issue price 35 euros or 75 euros.
I again returned to the plastic one, probably I will still cut one onion with a knife or chop it not very nicely in a blender. And, if there are more onions and carrots, I will get an electric grinder. But everything is boiled for salads, here the help will be enormous.
Lisichkalal
Vika, thanks, understood. I'm more interested in raw potatoes and carrots. I cut them first, and then I cook them.
Do you need to buy additional attachments? Or are all the necessary ones included from 35 or 75 euros?
Marfusha5
Quote: Lisichkalal
I'm more interested in raw potatoes and carrots.
The alligator does an excellent job with raw potatoes and carrots. Attachments: the set of the metal alligator includes 3x3, 6x6, 12x12 mm grilles, if you need a 9x9 mm grille, you can buy it separately.
The plastic alligator includes only a 6x6 mm cutter, you can additionally buy only a 12x12 mm cutter, and separately a mini alligator 3x3 mm, but it never came in handy for me, it just lies there.
Mirabel
In my opinion, the whole set .. but maybe I'm wrong.
They wrote to me above that you cannot immediately cut raw vegetables, without preliminary preparation.
I also sometimes cut from the beginning, and then cook, but in this case, Moulinex will help you, the cubes for salads are a bit large, it turns out true
Of course, choose according to your needs.
But I will not buy now, I have a new Steba blender itching.


Added Wednesday 25 May 2016 06:15 PM

Irina, aaaah how cool !!!! then truncated is decided for me!
And in my opinion I saw on Amazon in 2 cutters.
Ira, I'll torment you a little more: girl_red: will he cut the sticks too? or just cubes
Marfusha5
Quote: Mirabel
They wrote to me above that you cannot immediately cut raw vegetables, without preliminary preparation.
To cut raw carrots into small pieces, I divide them into 2-3 parts in height, since the lid will not allow cutting through a tall vegetable. I cut the potato in half so that it has a flat side for stability, so the vegetable is more stable. And I immediately chick with an alligator. To cut a vegetable into cubes, first you need to cut it into washers, fold these washers in a stack of several pieces and cut into cubes with an alligator.


Added Wednesday 25 May 2016 06:21 PM

Quote: Mirabel
Ira, I'll torment you a little more, but will you also cut the sticks? or just cubes
Yes, he cuts into cubes and cubes, but for cubes you first need to cut the vegetable into layers-washers.


Added Wednesday 25 May 2016 6:22 PM

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