fffuntic
Mirabel, imagine a square of a lattice made of sharp knives with which you press on vegetables. The sharper the knives, the less effort. An alligator has the sharpest knives, which means the least effort. With boiled vegetables, none at all, with raw vegetables you need to press.
The alligator has two options for installing this cutting edge: different replaceable lattices in one hole, that is, one base is a metal Lux. You can buy replaceable grilles of any size in one window. It is economical.
But when working, you need to change them, like graters in a combine.

And installation from rigidly soldered gratings into plastic, that is, for each grating "its" alligator. But you can put two alligators side by side and use alternately, and they are easier in the hand.
But it is less economical to buy other sizes and the unit will take up more space.

For boiled vegetables, any model will work, there is no effort at all.

But for raw vegetables, effort is already needed, so the iron will be of better quality, but heavier for the hand, and the plastic is easier to work with.

I use a 6 mm neiser just to plan everything for soup, potatoes, carrots, onions. It suits me completely.
My seconds under a strong stream of water, if raw vegetables.
Of course, if vegetables are boiled, then any grill will require more effort, vegetables are glued even to an ordinary knife
immediately buy a hard brush for convenience, well, or a toothbrush, at first I cleaned it perfectly too


Added Wednesday 25 May 2016 8:07 PM

And in the process of work I am too lazy to change the lattice.Therefore, I am on one string and shred everything to the grate. So to each his own. If not for the price, then I would have liked a set of different plastic alligators
Or an electric alligator - that's my dream. Assorted straws and cubes. Maybe when they do



Added Wednesday 25 May 2016 08:39 PM

About preparation and cubes.
Well, imagine a grid of knives of a certain size. And with this grate you press on a whole potato. This makes a long straw.
If you cut the potatoes in half, and press already in half, then the straws are already two times shorter. You will not get cubes on the machine right away. Is the principle clear? Cubes are shortened straws.
And then all the questions about effort. The larger the surface of the raw vegetable you press on, the more effort is needed. If the carrot is especially hard, then you need to cut it into pieces to make it easier or so that the straw becomes a cube

Lerele
Quote: Astilba

Interesting video about Nyser Diser Plus at the Destroyers of TV shops
Ohh, I haven't had so much fun for a long time
There is also about Bullitt, there is generally tin.

In general, fools' thoughts converge (if that's a saying, not a hint)), today I was cutting an onion, then I went to watch an alligator, I go here, and here they are discussing it

I just want one piece of onion and one piece of carrots, too, with one hand movement.
Will the alligator go? Should you push it hard?

And I have some kind of plastic, there is immeasurable strength to push through and blunt inserts
Most importantly, I don't remember where it came from, how I took apart the cabinets and found it, but after all, only I could put it in the closet, but I don't remember

Jiri
Quote: Lerele
Alligator will go
cuts like clockwork. There is little effort, but we are not babies, we move a little
francevna
Lerele, also watched the video about Nyser Diser Plus.
Looking at these young people, I wanted to say that they should include their heads in the work. Is it really hard to cut the potatoes into two parts.
I have had this Nice for three years and am very pleased with it. From raw I cut eggplants, zucchini, cucumbers, tomatoes, potatoes, champignons.Today my husband bought a strawberry, and it is very large, so she quickly chopped it on the insert for a tomato, it came out beautifully and without juice.
I really like to cut boiled vegetables for salad, quickly, easily, beautifully. My grandson from 4 years old cuts vegetables on it, while under my supervision, I put vegetables on him, and he pressed from above. Now he is six, she explained,what cannot be touched by hands, applies and cuts independently.
I'll cut the onion with my hands, if I need a little and finely. And for large volumes, Zelmer is the assistant.
fffuntic
Quote: francevna

Lerele, also watched the video about Nyser Diser Plus.
...
but I did not like this model, although the equipment is super-duper there. Firstly, it is harder to press on the piece of iron from above with plastic, it takes longer to wash the container because of one vegetable and it is inconvenient to remove it. The button on top requires control of efforts, I was sharp, pressed hard, and apparently somehow unevenly, and I immediately broke it, skewed.
Although with a careful attitude, this model will probably work.
But I love both the tail and the mane

In general, I remained a fan of the first neiser with a small round container and knives on top.

But no matter how we praise the cheap analogue, the alligator's goraazdo knives are better, better quality and sharper, cuts softer and easier, I would like a plastic alligator, but the toad strangles.
The iron one is too roaring and heavy, something did not impress at all, but these are my cockroaches.

And these rollers ... with this approach, the combine will not stand it. You can break and stop anything you want.

Lerele
I put it in the Metallic basket.
And I dream, I take an alligator, with one movement of my hand I chop onions, carrots and potatoes on it and cook soup.
Dreams come true ??

And then I already have these sharp, well, all, and a berner and a giant, and a mule, and just a combine. And from the tapper the chef. And from a blender, and just a chopper from Aldi.
Rituslya
Oh, and I use my Nayser + only for cutting French fries, I never even used the rest of the ingredients. They lie somewhere.
Lisichkalal
Irina, Thank you !
Today I made a vinaigrette with my new sharp, like a neiser. Normul)) all pochikal, and the carrots were solid. I'll wait with the alligator.
The price of the issue is 20 euros, if anyone is interested, I will give a link.
Lerele
Lisichkalal, let's just in case. Although my type of Niceser cuts really bad
Lisichkalal
Lerele, went to the kitchen to watch the name))


Added Thursday, 26 May 2016 00:39

Gemuse schneider, durandal
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Lerele
Lisichkalal, I just have this and cuts badly
Lucky for you to cut. Maybe now other knives are being inserted.
fffuntic
Quote: Lerele

Lisichkalal, I just have this and cuts badly
Lucky for you to cut. Maybe now other knives are being inserted.
the alligator is very good in quality of knives. I have only one serious complaint about it: the price (add a little and like a little Boshik with a cube cutter with two grates and graters, well, then BOSHIK).

Since you do not like analogs, then you make increased demands and I understand, because you use a burner, and everything is qualitatively sharp.
Probably for you personally, it is better to take a really knowingly high-quality thing, only then you will not be mistaken in expectations.

For ease of cutting aligator strong ahead of my counterpart, no way to catch up. Just for 500 r it is already normal for me.

But I think that you most likely may only like the alligator. He is an unconditional leader.


Added Thursday, 26 May 2016 02:36

Girls, thanks for the Berner consultation. But she looked at these sharp knives and it became scary. All the same, allegator-neisers are not so scary, I don’t have the courage for a berner, but thanks for your attention.
Lerele
fffuntic, Moulinex makes cubes for me, but getting it out and washing it every time, brrr .... is lazy.
I got some kind of onion today, I started to cut it, but it’s not hard anymore, it’s tousled with leaves, I got so nervous and immediately remembered what it was like !!! such a device to bam, and the onion into pieces.
Well, then Ostap suffered, dreaming of chopping everything into soup on one device, for example. And then just rinse it off easily
And on my last time I tried to cut an onion into manty, so I almost jumped on it with all my weight, and pressed, and tugged, then cleaned And such warm words slandered him that in a decent society and scared to say
So I need to have no nerves. I'd rather pay more. And my husband is of the same opinion. Because for some reason he is afraid when I'm nervous
fffuntic
This is how I cook, everything on one 6 mm grid. Very comfortably. At first I doubted that grated carrots are better, but when they are small cubes, they are absolutely not worse, very much even nothing.
In general, I cook in this style: I put the broth while it boils, I cut potatoes on one 6 mm wire rack, then carrots and onions (I divide the onion into 4 quarters, it is ideally cut into quarters in my machine). The main work goes to cutting vegetables into large slices, if the hunt is cubes, not straws. I look closely at the slicer, but also the infection is like a helicopter. And then there would really be only two movements: first into the slicer, and then into the alligator and immediately small cubes. The beauty.
But without a slicer, you need to cut it into slices with a knife. You can put it into an alligator twice, and not cut it into slices, but it will be less accurate, although it is quite possible and it will also be fast.
By the way, here the alligator rules too. It is very convenient to pull out the straws to shove them into the alligator a second time.
Any aggregates in the form of "Nicera plus", when vegetables crumble right into the lower hopper, do not provide such convenience, so I immediately rejected them.
And in an alligator, you can easily and quickly take out the straw immediately and again for processing. Conveniently. Two movements

Carrots and onions in a cup and in the microwave with a piece of fat and two or three tablespoons of broth for 6-7 minutes with a lid, at the same time I put cereals and potatoes in the boiled broth. After 6-7 minutes, I throw onions with micro carrots. Then it is enough to bring to a boil and hold until eating for 10-15 minutes under a lid, and neat soft vegetables in the soup will be provided. I fall asleep greens and on the table.
Then a few seconds to rinse the nyser, knife and board, a minute to wash the carrot cup and spoon for stirring the soup.

I often save effort. I peel the carrots and potatoes a couple of times, then rinse and wrap each in plastic wrap and in the refrigerator. Before cooking, I take already peeled vegetables. Conveniently.


Added Thursday, 26 May 2016 04:13

I don't have a mule, but a fillet vegetable cutter. The thing is convenient, if you are not lazy and make a preparation several times from stewed carrots with onions in the refrigerator. A bunch of cuts, really like the Korean carrot grater there. It turns out very nicely in the soup. But for Olivier, vinaigrette, for straws from potatoes or carrot straws for pilaf, only the niser drives.
But I like to rub salads only on electrical appliances, and for mulka, graters for carrots are larger than filkinny ones, and the filka cuts a salad of radishes with cucumbers into slices wonderfully.
And I liked the cubes of the minibosh and there is less waste, the graters are very attractive and rubs everything into a small compact flask. Now I really want a minibosh, more than an alligator. But it is possible that the operation would show flaws. Unfortunately, on the forum, no one has yet unsubscribed about the features of this unit.
Merri
Lerele, soon for you cutting vegetables into soup will turn into a holiday!
Lerele
Merri,
Here you get up in the morning, and here kind people say pleasant things, they raise the mood for the whole day
Lisichkalal
Quote: Lerele

Lisichkalal, I just have this and cuts badly
Lucky for you to cut. Maybe now other knives are being inserted.
Maybe others, or maybe because I used it only 2 times, or just everyone's requirements are different. Personally, I compare it with my former Niceer, it seems to me there was a fake, well, the current one is not inferior. She touched the grate a little and cut her finger right there.
But I rarely cut cubes, for everything else I use a Berner, and for a large number of cubes the Mum 5 Boshevsky combine.
I would read the branch before buying it, take an alligator, and once I grab this one, I’ll use it. It will be seen further.
What is personally uncomfortable for me in the combine, I first cut raw potatoes, then raw carrots, and then I have to wash it, because after that I cut the boiled food and the rest of the potatoes and carrots will fall into the boiled slices. Well, wash again after boiled vegetables.
But it cuts, of course, very quickly.


Added Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:30 AM

That's the diagnosis! I myself have just written that while I will use what I have, and I do not get out of the Amazon, I look at alligators.
Here is steel
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Cubes 3, 6 and 9 mm.
Here is the plastic
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Cubes 3, 6 and 9 mm.
And here's the plastic
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3, 6 and 12 mm.
Did I understand correctly that 9 is more often used, not 12 mm? So consider the first 2 options? Plastic 40 euros or metal 70 euros.
Plastic will take up more space during storage, since as many as 3 graters.
And where to store the attachments in the metal?
Do I need to buy an additional 12 mm nozzle? It costs some unreal 50 euros.
Lerele
Lisichkalal, well, count up, I'm the same. It seems that I don't need anything, but I look.
We are all like this
And as for your cutting, it can cut well, I don't remember mine when I bought it, there are glimpses in my head, like a penny a thousand years ago. So it may look like this, but the knives are different.
That's what you want to be easy to care for and quick. When I need a lot, Moulinex will help me, and for the sake of one carrot and onion, I will never get it.
Lisichkalal
Lerele, that's for sure ! and got infected themselves did not notice how
I sit watching videos on YouTube about alligators. For some reason it seems to me that it is more convenient with the container at the bottom, and it is bigger.
And if without the upper container, then constantly remove the food and transfer. Time is wasted too much.
It was also embarrassing that there is no special brush to wash the nozzles from the remnants of vegetables.
But outwardly steel like
In the neiser, I was very pleased that the container with a lid. I cut vegetables in it and kept them in the refrigerator.
And so, without trying to cut it yourself, it is difficult to understand which one is better and cuts with less effort.
Today I still order additional Berner graters)) Korean and baby
Lerele
Lisichkalal, and for the Korean I bought a four-handed burner, well, like ordinary graters in appearance. And I still use it, it's just too heavy, but I like it this way.
But now I need to quickly chick one onion, and not for a large number. I also use a large type of burner, and the cabbage on it and the cubes can be large and thin. In short, everything is there, but one onion has nothing to cut

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Disgusting, I bought expensively (found 49.90), but now


Added Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:54 PM

Ugh on me, now I also wanted a slicer
Mirabel
Quote: Lerele
and one onion has nothing to chop
This is really a big problem!
And what other slicer is ???
The four-sided Burner is handsome too!

Jiri
Now the iron alligator has chopped up frozen pork for me on the largest net, he didn't even take an eye.
Lerele
Jiri, show me! ???
Marfusha5
Quote: fffuntic
I look closely at the slicer, but also the infection is like a helicopter. And then there would really be only two movements: first into the slicer, and then into the alligator and immediately small cubes.
I have a slicer - I love it. He cuts raw vegetables like butter. And it is very convenient, once on the slicer, the vegetable was cut into washers, put in the alligator, and you already have cubes. I cook Olivier just once or twice. I won't even have time to blink an eye, everything is already ready. The longest is to peel the vegetables to the alligator)))


Added Thursday, 26 May 2016 4:52 pm

Quote: Lisichkalal
Here is the plastic
🔗
Cubes 3, 6 and 9 mm.
The plastic does not have a 9 mm grill, apparently there is a typo.

Quote: Lisichkalal
Did I understand correctly that 9 mm is used more often than 12 mm?

For 9 cubes, they are more accurate and not as large as 12 mm.

Quote: Lisichkalal
And where to store the attachments in the metal?

I put the attachments in a regular square plastic container - it was very convenient. In such-and-such, whether in the largest, or in the middle, I no longer remember, but there was a size right under the nozzles, all the tunic fit into the tunic and it was very convenient and safe to store.
Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.)
Jiri
Quote: Lerele
Jiri, show me! ???
Eh, there was such a thought to take a picture, but unfortunately already in the stomach.According to Tumanchik's recipe, potatoes with meat Liver. Meat, onions, potatoes, dice on a large grid, and carrots on a small dice
Marfusha5
Quote: Lisichkalal
I don't get out of the Amazon, I watch alligators.
Here is steel
🔗
Cubes 3, 6 and 9 mm.
And where are the sizes of the gratings written? I do not see (((
Jiri
Marfusha5, Irish, did you buy a slicer there?
Mirabel
Quote: Marfusha5
I have a slicer - I love it
for the gifted, is a slaser also an Aligator?
Marfusha5
Jiri, Irishik, nope, on some site. I took 2 thousand with a tail for a long time.


Added Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:50 PM

Quote: Mirabel

for the gifted, is a slaser also an Aligator?

Yes, an alligator slicer, but there is only one slicing thickness of 5 mm.

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Jiri
It's a pity that they couldn't have foreseen different inserts? Although 5 mm x9, you can probably for a salad, You probably tried it, Irish?
Marfusha5
Quote: Jiri
maybe for a salad,

Irishik, I began to cut salads on an alligash on a 6x6 mm grid, and the slicer turned out to be a wonderful helper here. The two of them together very quickly cope with any salads with salads.
Lisichkalal
Lerele, so I cut 1 onion on a bener, I have Prima.


Added Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:36 PM

Quote: Marfusha5


And where are the sizes of the gratings written? I do not see (((
The Germans didn't write something, the French have it, but the price is higher
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Lerele
Mirabel, yes, too. I already put it in the basket, I still want it and it looks like I'll buy

Slicer
🔗

But myself
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Marfusha5
Quote: Lisichkalal
The Germans didn't write something, the French have it, but the price is higher
the Germans in their questions and answers say that the gratings are 3x3, 6x6 and 12x12 mm.
Lerele
Lisichkalal, I can too, but it's not the same there, you need an onion on the holder, well, wave your hand
Mirabel
Quote: Lerele
you need the bulb on the holder, well, wave your hand
Oh, okay ... it's not difficult to wash it afterwards, but there the slicer doesn't bathe itself and won't jump into place.
I'm still leaning towards the simplest kind, plastic with a 9mm nozzle, but I'll think about it, probably someone will grab it and tell it before.
Lisichkalal
Quote: Marfusha5
There is no 9 mm grill in the plastic, apparently there is a typo
Yes, it looks like a typo. So also not only in this. The third version of plastic, model 3080, is a mini chopper at all, not plastic cutting. And the description of the model name is incorrect.
And I did not see a separate 9 mm grille on sale. So if you take it, it turns out only metal.


Added Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:59 pm

Vic, not in 9mm platyk
Mirabel
ok, so I will study further
Lisichkalal
Quote: Marfusha5

the Germans in their questions and answers say that the gratings are 3x3, 6x6 and 12x12 mm.
All ! I'm completely confused!
On the home site of the steel they write about 12 mm !!! And 9 has no sharp edges.
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Added Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:15 PM

Lerele, Ir, for sure, Berner rinsed and washed nothing.
Lyubanich
They write that no store with three nozzles sends to Russia


Added Thursday, 26 May 2016 7:30 pm

everyone, girls, I see where you are from))) it's easier for you
Marfusha5
Quote: Lisichkalal
On the home site of the steel they write about 12 mm !!! And 9 has no sharp edges.
A 9x9 mm replacement block must be sold separately.
fffuntic
Quote: Mirabel


I'm still leaning towards the simplest kind, plastic with a 9mm nozzle, but I'll think about it, probably someone will grab it and tell it before.
it's almost a cm-cube size. It's too big for a bulb with carrots in the soup, and if you make borscht, then for beets, the less, the better.
I think I need at least two: 6mm and more, to choose from. And ideally three: 6, 9, 12. The latter is good for a stew. But 3 mm seems unnecessary to me at all ..
a 9 mm for fried potatoes
a 6 everywhere and for carrots in pilaf
etc..


Added Thursday, 26 May 2016 8:00 pm

I like to make a vegetable stew in a pressure cooker with a 12 mm grid. The vegetables were shredded to the top of the saucepan (when they are ready, they are tamped and there are fewer of them), added broth for 8 minutes. For a stew of 12 mm it is most, it could be 15mm


Added Thursday, May 26, 2016 8:44 PM

although now I thought that 3 mm could be adapted. If it would be easy to cut, then in chicken soup a carrot of 3 mm would probably look very aesthetically pleasing, a beautiful straw should be obtained.
Finely onion into cutlets, garlic. For beets in borscht.
Lerele
Mirabel, is it difficult to say?
And get it out of the box, which you need to dig, open, insert the necessary insert?
Then bury it back
It’s uncomfortable for me, I can’t think of a comfortable place for her.
And the alligator, I hope, will be more convenient, you can not keep it in the box, and two replaceable panels are easy to adapt. And then in my grater there are three replaceable inserts, the holder still. So he lives in a box.
Mirabel
fffuntic, yes, yes ... the cubes will be too big, you are right.
Well then what ... to return to metal again? : girl-th: 6mm and 9 are in the plastic?
Lerele, Nah .. well, if there is exactly a place, then we must take it without a doubt.
I still have fullmessmess in the kitchen. I just can't move to the pantry, and I also came up with a couple of shelves to fit in the kitchen itself, and therefore I very vaguely imagine where and what I will put.
The bathrooms also have a place for shelves .. well, there is somehow not very kitchen utensils in the bedroom, too, I have adapted something, but again it is far from walking behind a grater
Therefore, I save space in advance
Marfusha5
Quote: fffuntic
although now I thought that 3 mm could be adapted. If it would be easy to cut, then in chicken soup a carrot of 3 mm would probably look very aesthetically pleasing, a beautiful straw should be obtained.
I couldn't cut the carrots by 3 mm, they got stuck. Doesn't take mini alligator carrots. Or maybe these are my hook hands? And you need to get used to cutting the onion sharply on a mini alligator, it is tiny, there you need a completely different sharp movement than on a large alligator. Maybe Lux is doing it? There is one base for the vegetable cutter and under 3 mm and under 6, 12.


Added Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:48 PM

Quote: Mirabel
Are 6mm and 9mm in plastic?
9 mm not in plastic))))))
Lisichkalal
And I didn’t find 9 at all in Europe
Even separately
Marfusha5
Quote: Lisichkalal

And I didn’t find 9 at all in Europe
Even separately

Should be ... Maybe where on simple sites-dealers EPU is?

Here is the site of a company in Sweden 🔗

Look at the address of the distributor closest to you, maybe there is.

I would buy and send an attachment, but I generally do not know how to send international parcels. (
Lisichkalal
Irina, thanks, I'll look again. But this is still more for fun. While my type is fine with me)) but if it finally feels like it, it's like knowing where to run right away))


Added Thursday, 26 May 2016 11:29 pm

Quote: Marfusha5
I would buy and send a nozzle, but I generally don't know how to send international parcels. (
Oh, and I am the same)) I also do not know how) thanks, but for the time being "it does not burn" for me and we will be in Moscow in the summer) if it’s straight, I’ll buy it.
Marfusha5
Quote: Lisichkalal
Thank you, but I am still "off fire" and will be in Moscow in the summer) if it’s straight, I’ll buy it.

Vooot))) There is a lot of this stuff in Moscow)))

Something I read you here))))) now I also want a metal alligator back))))))))))) and all because of the 9x9 mm nozzle))) I really miss it in plastic.
Lerele
Lisichkalal, and I have not found, there is none. Was on the Amazon, now not. And there is one review that they sent the left insert, the picture does not correspond to the picture, the aunt called the seller, he was nasty to her, in short, she sent it back. Apparently she complained and the seller's Amazon pochikal, they have it very strictly, very much.

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