Cooking utensils (pots, pans, lids) (2)

Larisik, dear, well, I wrote - I'm not a saucepan !!!! For me, everything with a 2 ... 3 liter lid is a saucepan. I reported above how I bought the set and where. And Mr. Ketleri gene. director of the pan and pan plant! Very well versed in this area, knows where, what and ... how much! Maybe he's just gone on vacation to Mallorca. But he always takes his laptop with him. You can get it there too. Bomb it and you will get direct personal recommendations on pots. I suggest:
1. choose the pots you like the most.
2. copy to your computer.
3. go to his Smorgon forum and post pictures of the pots and pans you have chosen.
4. with the words: "Here, dear Kuhmeister (this is his local nickname), how people know how to make dishes! Your" magnolias "with" orchids "did not stand here and there!"
And you can tick the hotel faster. And in pursuit you will hear everything he thinks about your choice in detail! And then we can say that she was joking and he will thaw. Somehow like this.
And with 100% confidence I can give advice and very valuable (literally!). DO NOT buy a zepter !!! The pans are great, but the price is 5 ... 10 times higher. The same cool pans can be bought for a very reasonable price from other manufacturers. Kuhm told about them in detail on the same thread ... ugh, you're already confused! Mr. Catleri.
Good luck!

[Wit]

Oh hello!
and how am I still not lit up here yet? Mamdaragaya, I've been studying about dishes for a long time (say, I'm getting ready for a complete replacement of the "pan park" at the end of the repair), but I have not seen this topic and such sensible information as in these links, I did not come across ... (special thanks, Wit!!! )
About all sorts of "super pots made in Germany ..." (France ... England, etc.), I just can't listen in stores.
Until now, I have known good Russian dishes Gourmet, on the consumer. ru read tests about her.
but! - now I am very interested in this "Kuharskaya" dish ...
Well, they convinced me, together with Mr. Ketleri, that is, Kuhmeister ....

So what now? How can I buy it?
We have never met such one anywhere ... Remember friends from Belarus?

and in St. Petersburg the choice is not so great .. but gradually ordering several pots-delivery 300r

I bought a Korkmaz Alfa-5,5 brazier last year. So happy! Wide bottom, frying is a pleasure. I do not like it when it flies to the sides while stirring. Sufficient volume - 5.5 liters. Recently I made bulgur with fried onion and carrot + curry and a little ketchup + potatoes. (Awesome combination!) Now this is my favorite "frying pan"! They said that you can put it in the oven, but have not tried it yet.

They said that you can put it in the oven, but have not tried it yet.

And don't try it yet! Wait for Mr. Ketleri - let him first give the go-ahead for this manipulation.

I can get confused in the details, but when I was crawling on the topics of dishware, I got stuck in my head - you cannot put dishes with welded handles in the oven. May fall off! It seems to be possible with riveted handles, but welding is impossible. I do not assert, maybe I am mistaken, but God protects those who are careful. And Mr. Ketleri is a pro, he knows for sure!

I remember that Mr. Ketleri said something about delivery to Ukraine. But since I don't care about pans, I did not remember the answer. I want it super frying pan! And he still tests it and patents it. Wait a run, I'll run over the topic - suddenly I'll catch ...

[Freesia (Simferopol)]

I so wanted to please you, Inusya ... But, alas!

Freesia (Simferopol): Do you supply TM Kuhar dishes to Ukraine?
Mr: There are no trading partners yet, unfortunately.

However, below ...

Freesia (Simferopol): I asked, because representatives of this company in VKontakte say that they already have Orchid on sale and they announced the prices.

There was no answer
We must find Freesia.

I already wrote that I bought a "grill" frying pan "Gourmet.



Cutlets are great in it. First fry on one side, then turn over, reduce power and cover. As a result, cutlets with a crust, fluffy and tender, not steamed. All the trick is in the lid itself. All condensation accumulates on the rim, which is wrapped so that it does not spill onto the food. But of course you need to be careful not to do this yourself when you remove the lid. Although, to be honest, this is quite problematic. When I wash it, it is almost impossible to pour out the remaining water from under the rim. She rolls on it. Fried potatoes are also good. I haven't tried the fish yet, but I guess it will turn out well.

[Wit]

I already wrote that I bought a "grill" frying pan "Gourmet.

And the rest? Do the products stick to the bottom? And what series, "Elite"? Expensive?
PS. So, you say, she inundated with questions. So now don't know when you will get "orchids, magnolias". Yes, and Mr. Ketleri now figs will appear to us, after Wit it was "declassified".

And what series, "Elite"? Expensive?

Yes, this is the Elite series. It costs 2450 rubles.

Do the products stick to the bottom?

Yes, they stick when some conditions are not met: the pan and oil are not heated. It must be said that this is not a non-stick cookware. But if the food sticks, then it is not critical.

So now don't know when you will get "orchids, magnolias".

I think that these are different pans and it is incorrect to compare them. You can't fry pancakes on a "gourmet". There is a corrugated bottom. Although I calmly fry onions and carrots on it. But to be honest, I haven't tried all the features of this frying pan yet. She was generally abandoned for me. The children there overcooked something, everything was burnt, they did not try to wash the frying pan. I had to clean it thoroughly. I risked a "mole". And then I decided to fry the cutlets and was pleasantly surprised by the consistency (lush) and taste. They were store-bought. With homework, I think the effect will be even better. Combined with the tricky lid, the frying pan is very good. I can’t advise you anymore, because I’m not quite an experienced cook. So, amateur. True, this frying pan has 2 drawbacks. First: you just can't rinse it to wash it. Soaking and a toothbrush helps me. For those who have a dishwasher, there is no problem. Second: the size is too small. I like it to be where to turn around. If "Gourmet" made a brazier like "Korkmaz", she would take it without question. There, her capabilities would have expanded significantly.

P.S. By the way, the 3-layer thermo-accumulating bottom of the "Gourmet" keeps the temperature better than the 5-layer bottom of the "Gipfel". I have an induction cooker. "Gipfel" reacted faster to changes in power than "Gourmet".

... bought a grill pan "Gourmet.

Yes, this is the Elite series. It costs 2450 rubles.

And at our Flea market is not this sold now?
Sold by Mabo: "Frying pan from Gourmet of the Elite series of stainless steel with a triple bottom d240, new for 1700 rubles."
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27659.0

And at our Flea market is not this sold now?
Sold by Mabo:
"Frying pan from Gourmet of the Elite series of stainless steel with a triple bottom d240, new for 1700 rubles."

I think she is the most. Gourmet has one frying pan with a grooved bottom. Only lids with different handles.

P.S. I would like to add that I liked heating food in the Gourmet at low power. (At the moment, something is wrong with the microwave.) I don’t know whose merit here: a tricky lid or a thick bottom, but it warms up delicately and carefully, nothing burns (even porridge). It seems to be saturated with steam. But for this purpose it is better to use dishes with a flat rather than a corrugated bottom.

You know with what thought I just finished reading your answers in this thread? The more I read, the dumber I get.
In the sense that the more information, the more difficult it is to choose.
There is no perfect product. Until.
So I bought a good heavy frying pan with AP coating. Everything is great: it does not stick, it fries well, but! The connection of the handle with the pan (the handle is not removable) was splattered with oil and I was faced with the question of how to wash the dried oil without prejudice to the coating of the pan? This, although outside, but still. Even devices for preserving the coating are not so annoying. I don’t use it yet, I don’t want to pay more for it. It's a pity that it's new.
People, can anyone tell me what?

You know with what thought I just finished reading your answers in this thread? The more I read, the dumber I get.
In the sense that the more information, the more difficult it is to choose.
There is no perfect product. Until.
So I bought a good heavy frying pan with AP coating. Everything is great: it does not stick, it fries well, but! The connection of the handle with the pan (the handle is not removable) was splattered with oil and I was faced with the question of how to wash the dried oil without prejudice to the coating of the pan? This, although outside, but still. Even devices for preserving the coating are not so annoying. I don’t use it yet, I don’t want to pay more for it. It's a pity that it's new.
People, can anyone tell me what?

Pay no attention to it. The pan is not eternal, it will not last long anyway. It's my opinion

To tell the truth, such a thought also visited me. But I'm not ready to give in right away. I will break yet.

How stubborn! You have to do it like me. I take a toothpick or a wooden skewer and, sticking out my tongue, slowly scrape off the fat. Long and boring. Although, gel against fat can help for cleaning stoves and ovens: drip onto the stove and dip a toothpick skewer into it. And then apply neatly to the place where the fat is. And leave for 5 ... 10 minutes. And then with a rag-rag and vodoooooooo-vodooooy. Hot! Or cold. One fig is not worth a new frying pan!

And then with a rag-rag

A toothbrush would be better.

Covering kyrdik from the brush and fat will laugh. Like this

Kind! No, I would say: yes, all the class, Manyash, it will be, try it slowly. Now I will definitely spit and live like SWIFT.

Kind! No, I would say: yes, all the class, Manyash, it will be, try it slowly. Now I will definitely spit and live like SWIFT.

Manyash, why did you strain with toothpicks in the Murom forests? You can shake and claws lightly. Whoa! The class will be!

Manyash, why did you strain with toothpicks in the Murom forests? You can shake and claws lightly. Whoa! The class will be!

The claws are in your cat's part. We have marigolds for now. Even in the woods.

but did you try to "boil off" * JOKINGLY *? I twice a year .. put the tank on the gas-stove .. soda + washing powder .. and plus stationery glue .. a handful .. well, a tube ... steam it .. pulled out you use it .. and under the tap with an old toothbrush .. you touch it, the film itself slides .. dirt, I mean ..

but did you try to "boil off" * JOKINGLY *? I put the tank on the gas-stove twice a year .. soda + washing powder .. and plus stationery glue .. a handful of it .. well, a tube ... steamed .. pulled out you use it .. and under the tap with an old toothbrush .. you touch it, the film itself slides .. dirt, I mean ..

And along with the dirt, the coating will slip

but did you try to "boil off" * JOKINGLY *? I twice a year .. put the tank on the gas-stove .. soda + washing powder .. and plus stationery glue .. a handful .. well, a tube ... steam it .. pulled out you use it .. and under the tap with an old toothbrush .. you touch it, the film itself slides .. dirt, I mean ..

This execution is not for Teflon and others like it.

And the cover is unfortunate?

nothing will happen to him .. true glue (transparent) is added if there are still aluminum pans (as far as I know) you take it out .. it looks like from a store ...here the bottoms of the pots-pans are washed out a little hard .. take out rub them .. put them in the solution again .. boil ... I don't have a dishwasher unfortunately ..

This execution is not for Teflon and others like it.

afraid for teflon .. turn the pan .. and only boil the handle ..

nothing will happen to him .. though glue (transparent) is added if there are still aluminum pans (as far as I know) you take out .. it looks like from a store ... the bottoms of the pots-pans are a little too heavy to wash off .. take out rub .. again into the solution you put it down .. boil ... I don't have a dishwasher unfortunately ..

Mom and I used to do that. Now I do not bring pots to such a state. Yes, to tell the truth, as I got the multicooker, almost all the pots are idle in the cabinet. if you just pour something ready, put it in the refrigerator.
And old silumin or duralumin pans were not washed like that.

[Larissa]

and did you try to "boil off" * JOKINGLY *? I put the tank on the gas-stove twice a year .. soda + washing powder .. and plus stationery glue .. a handful of it .. well, a tube ... steamed .. pulled out you use it .. and under the tap with an old toothbrush .. you touch it, the film itself slides down .. dirt, I mean ..

Larissa, this method has been improved for a long time - we add oxygen BFB bleach to hot water. And truncated ... Let the dishes lie down a little, turn sour and everything will easily go away. And no glue, soda, powder ...

Try "SANITA spray 1 MINUTE" (red bottle) - an excellent product.

Girls, my neighbor comes from Belarus (and all her relatives live there), she goes there at least once a year.
So I can ask.
This dish is Smorgon (or whatever is right there) in Belarus itself on free sale there is ? Or should I look for it too?
If so, then maybe I will puzzle her.
I really liked how you write about it, and the appearance is impressive, especially that frying pan with high sides and a corrugated bottom ...

this tableware is on sale in Belarus, six months ago I got on the Internet to describe it and also fell in love with it, puzzled my relatives and bought it for me the very next day (only they just can't bring it to me yet)

got to know better the different series of the Kuhari, the cook. RU.
Thanks everyone for the tips!
I liked the Lotus series, the one that is classic, but it looks like an Orchid in appearance (but On this For some reason, the site did not find Orchids), in short I like with glass lids ...
The design is very attractive, nothing more
In general, I decided to beg the neighbor ...
While the repairs are going on, there is time!

Can I add my own five kopecks? I ordered a set of 5 pots + WMF steam insert a year and a half ago in Germany. Together with delivery, it cost 7000r. I cook often, but the appearance has not deteriorated, very good pots are heavy, the bottom is thick, excellent dishes for reasonable money

[Inusya]

Inusya, my sun. If I were you, I would not buy with glass lids. Trust my experience as a chain user. God forbid it breaks, where will you take a new one? To strain your neighbor again? Yes, and it's expensive ... I have a glass cover on the MDV, so I carry it around like a fool with a stupa.

But I really love the glass lids of my mother with an iron one, I lift it every 5 seconds - it's unusual not to see the contents, and do they break so often? I have broken only one in 10 years, and that one from a Chinese frying pan. pan somehow as long as survived t t t

[Inusya]

Inusya, my sun. If I were you, I would not buy with glass lids. Trust my experience as a chain user. God forbid it breaks, where will you take a new one? To strain your neighbor again? Yes, and it's expensive ... I have a glass cover on the MDV, so I carry it around like a fool with a stupa.

Nelichka, I have Swedish glassware. lids, donated in 93 (this year she is 20 years old!), four items (ladle, 2 pots and a frying pan), stainless steel.
I still use it, the only thing is I am the plague, in the first year the lid from the frying pan "burst", I thought of putting it in the oven, and when I pulled it out, water splashed from my hands on the hot lid, and ... tryndets (only I could think of it).
And the rest is all-intact! After that, I buy only stainless steel dishes, I gave all the enameled ones to my mother.
That is why I want such dishes, it looks a lot like my "old lady".

And I like glass lids. So far, none of them have broken, although my dishes are beating hard. Tiled floor in the kitchen.

and how often do they fight?

And I have a total of 12 pieces of 20 year old glass lids intact. And I buy new dishes with glass.

[dopleta]

dopleta, Larochka, and from Gourmetdo you have a string with glass lids?

I choose another Gourmetbrazier and straight even nina, with a glass lid, what can I take?

I’m not going there ... I’m going there on the occasion for a gift (a set of camping utensils), at the same time I’ll see with my eyes .. we can catch my eye.

[at]

Well, if you catch on sho, can you share it though?

I urgently need a brazier and a ladle with a lid, and, yes, ishsho and castratI am wide overa !!!

What day in their tyrnet-gamazin I rummage around, I can not decide from which series to take ...

And they also added a series of combi ... but I brushed it off right away, I had to shove and shove Mona into the oven ...

[Gourmet]

I choose another Gourmetbrazier and straight even nina, with a glass lid, what can I take?

I recommend taking the iron lid from the Gourmet. It is made in such a way that it collects condensate, which rolls down to the cleverly bent rim so that water does not get back into the dish. You can also fry under such a lid.

I recommend taking the iron lid from the Gourmet. It is made in such a way that it collects condensate, which rolls down to the cleverly bent rim so that water does not get back into the dish. You can also fry under such a lid.

yes .. it seems like someone posted a photo .. such an interesting lid ... but it seems that it happens in a glass version too ..

I bought a lid on Ozone of this type, it is universal, for three sizes of pots and pans.

Now only much more expensive.

[Pro]

I recommend taking the iron lid from the Gourmet. It is made in such a way that it collects condensate, which rolls down to the cleverly bent rim so that water does not get back into the dish.

I wonder if the glass lids have a different design?

Here in the series Pro the covers are so different, but in the series Glass I can't understand from the photo ...

You can also fry under such a lid.

What am I actually doing ...

Ipatiya, Thank you ...

I recommend taking the iron lid from the Gourmet. It is made in such a way that it collects condensate, which rolls down to the cleverly bent rim, so that water does not get back into the dish. You can also fry under such a lid.

In which series of dishes does Gourmet have? And how is this cover to be installed on the handle? Will it fall off? And it will definitely not flow from it? I can't figure out what it looks like.

[Like this]

And how is this cover to be installed on the handle? Will it fall off? And it will definitely not flow from it? I can't figure out what it looks like.

Like this

The lids hold perfectly !!!

There will definitely not be a leak ...

Virgin, well, give me at least someone a thread of kick, I will naraskaryaku between classicohm and a plusohm:

Have a plusbut I like the design, but is it worth overpaying for "inflated" handles? I'm straightforward to choose what ...a it was yesterday !!!

[a plus]

Have a plusbut I like the design, but is it worth overpaying for "inflated" handles?

The "blown" handles are hollow and when washed in the PMM, water and detergents flow there. Then you turn it over and it all flows down the pan, leaving traces. With others (made from a bar), nothing like this happens. If you never intend to acquire PMM, then no big difference which pens, any will be fine. And for PMM they are definitely not exaggerated.

[Svetlana62]

And the lids are so attached to what series of pots?

Svetlana62, I have classic, the lids hold perfectly !!!

Have Margit our elites, judging by the photo shown by Ritulya, the covers hold on with a bang !!!

It seems like they wrote that the pros the same song the covers are held in the same way, only here who wrote ... alas, I don't remember ... not Larochka - Dopletochka is it?

Plus, well, very cute, especially the stewpan.

So me too, well, sooo nra ...

I liked the inflated ones too .. and overpay much more?

Larochka, the difference between the braziers is 350 rubles. (I compare braziers of the same diameter, 24 cm.).

But the buckets are already 500 rubles. difference ...

lega, Galyunya, thank you very much !!!

There is no dishwasher yet and I don't seem to plan ... damn, well, why ethose "inflated" handles look so cool ...

Not really, really
I have a habit of viewing pictures before reading them. So, before I read what you choose, I immediately glanced at them and noted for myself that the first bowls with thin handles look much softer.

[Girls]

Girls, I wanted to ask in kitchen details, but I thought it would be more appropriate here ...

Who can tell if it is true that Mona's glass pots should be put on gas, on a flame divider?

I even somehow strive ... Or maybe I should strive for nothing?

Flame diffuser for glassware for gas stove

Who can tell if it's true that Mona's glass pots should be put on gas, on a flame divider

Inna, really. My mother, 35 years ago, still had a set of glass refractory dishes from Czechoslovakia (she worked in Voentorg). It was great to watch the soup cooked in a glass saucepan on gas. But you need to handle it very carefully. For three years from the set, one small frying pan remained, everything else broke or burst. I still have a frying pan as a rarity, but I hardly cook on it, because I have an electric stove, sometimes I only do something in the microwave.
Thank you for your answer about VSMPO cookware.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, I am very grateful to you for the answer to my question, I have already bought the divider, I will try !!!

Girls and boys, I know for sure that some of you are the owners of cauldrons (NEVA-METAL), I have a question, does anyone have any complaints about this product?



I want a cauldron ... but I don't know which one to stop at ...

I need help from the hall ...

P.S. My gourmetthis dish has already reached me !!!

On reflection, I still stopped at classice ...