Cooking utensils (pots, pans, lids) (2)

[Inusya]

mini grill surface

Inusyait's like little cells / honeycombs at the bottom of a frying pan, right?
And you all fry meat / fish / eggs on it ??? I have such a saucepan and I can't get it

Yes. And I have both cells and potatoes. I like those in old teflon better. Only mine is not right away, but I let it stand for a few minutes with some water. And immediately everything goes away in the holes.

[Inusya]

I have both cells and potatoes. I like those in old teflon better.

Inusya, and you first heat the oil / heat well, and then put the product ??? Or another algorithm ??? It's just that for more than a year I can't afford fried potatoes even once a week.
Help, Inusya!!!

Are the handles on the lid hot? Glass lid?

I kind of have a Lotus. Glass covers. It seems that the handles are not heated on them. Why I'm not sure - I have only two pots of the Kuharovskys, in others they are definitely warming up. I don’t remember these exactly, but it seems that I don’t. I also took a frying pan with a glass lid, I like to see through the lid.

Lyudochka, I don’t bother too much. I poured a little oil, warmed it up without fanaticism, I see when it is a little "worried" at the bottom, or I held my hand over the frying pan and felt heating. And that's all. Next, I'm already throwing potatoes ...

[Friends]

Friends who has a saucepan in use Gourmet series Pro, are you satisfied?

I have all Gourmet series Classic ...

You need a pot of 7 liters, in series Classic there is no such volume ...

In series Pro there are 7 liters. pan (RUB 4,100):

And there is a double boiler, the same 7 l. saucepan + steamer insert (RUB 4,750):

You can take this one, however, I'm not sure that I need a double boiler ... but there, who knows, maybe it will come in handy when ...

There is also a mantool of the same volume, 7 liters. (RUB 4 800):

Bliiiin, right now and I don't know what to choose, so that later it will not be excruciatingly painful !!!

And about the frying pans, you can ask a question or go where? I got the idea to buy a cast-iron pancake pan for pancakes. The last time I bought in Uuterra some kind with a ceramic coating, I don't remember the company. Enough for a year, the pancakes began to stick ((((although only pancakes and pancakes were fried on it with a minimum of oil. I think, maybe I shouldn't have treated cast iron so badly? What do you say?

[Krosh]

Krosh, take a double boiler, especially since it is so deep I am very friendly with the steam basket in Thermomix (the one with the same principle in the photo) potatoes, buckwheat, rice are very convenient to cook

[Ksarochka]

Ksarochka, I recently bought a cast iron biol for pancakes. I really liked Shrovetide Pekla pancakes on it and on the Swiss one - Biolovskaya fried faster.

[Ksarochka]

Ksarochka, go to "The choice of multicooker ..." I wrote everything in detail about this coating there. Yes, and laid out an article on the MP, but you do not appear there.

P. 613
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=158832.new;topicseen#new


I drew attention to the fact that in Europe, dishes with a "ceramic" coating are considered "easy-clean", that is, easy to clean, but not "non-stick" - non-stick.
And the old avatar was better.

[Crochet]

Crochet, I have such a casserole. I really like it. If you don't cook manti and stuff, then take it with a double boiler, or without anything at all. All the acquaintances were bewildered by such a saucepan.

[Olyushka]

the more so deep it is

Nadyush, where did you read about the depth?

I didn't find something ...

If you don't cook manti and stuff

Yes, that's the point, Olyushka that I myself don't know yet whether to cook manti in it or not to cook it ...

After all, it is worth buying a pan without a mantle insert, as I will definitely be impatient to cook manti ... well, or something else ...

And if I buy it with an insert, I'll just throw that insert from place to place as unnecessary ...

Well, that's what kind of person I am, huh?

All the acquaintances were bewildered by such a saucepan.

I am myself only in series Classic there is nowhere aboutGourmetsilt ...

[Inna]

Inna, and what are you going to do in it? She is so roomy. From this and proceed. Just to be there - takes up a lot of space

[Olenka]

what are you going to do in it?

Oh), Olenka, huge plans ...

[Wit]

Wit, Vitaly, I read your links about this coverage. The problem is that they wash well for the first six months (fat from low sides), and then you wipe off the fat of the figs ... But even if you don't wash it, the pancakes are already starting to stick to the frying pan (((The first frying pan served for 3 years, the second one is exactly the same, but bought later, already a year, but for that kind of money for a year, I don't want to buy such pans.

I didn't have an avatar here. I recently started writing here. Earlier, only occasionally dropped in.

Maybe you have links about cast iron pans and you can defeat my cockroaches in your head that they are harmful?

That's how we are all different. I bake pancakes in two pans at once. On the cast iron Biol and on the pancake Nevskaya. So for me the taste of pancakes is different. I don't like it on cast iron.
Krosh, I would take it with a mantle cooker, you probably have a double boiler in your slow cooker.

[Olyushka]

I would take with a mantool

Olyushka, yes, I cook manti every 39 incomplete years ...

There is a steamer in the multicooker, yeah, but its capacity is not quite what I would like ...

[Inna]

Inna, in my opinion, earlier these inserts could be purchased separately. Buy both. Well, and a saucepan, of course.

I cook in such compote and tomato. Good size, needed in summer.

before, these inserts could be purchased separately

Now too ...

[Ksarochka]

Maybe you have links about cast iron pans

Lena, I just type "cast iron pans" at the top of the search box

Added Wednesday 29 Mar 2017 4:54 pm

Ksarochka, about cast iron pans here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3127.720
And in this thread too. You can search here at the top of the page for "Cast iron pans" or "choose a cast iron pan".
And these coatings are very sensitive to overheating.

Come here

IKEA Hover's pancake pan is a typical representative of its class
For those who are willing to sacrifice the comfort of non-stick pans for long-term use, uncoated cast iron pancake pans are suitable. Cast iron conducts well and retains heat. A frying pan pre-greased with oil or a lard crust acquires sufficient non-stick properties for frying pancakes. The service life of cast iron crepe makers is not limited. The main feature is that cast-iron pancakes are heavy, and only athletes can turn pancakes on them on the fly, others will have to do with a spatula. Well, it should be noted that uncoated cast iron cookware requires special care.

One of the most attractive models of cast-iron pancake makers in terms of price-quality ratio is the BIOL frying pan with a removable wooden handle. The cost of the product is 930 rubles. in the online store

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[Vitaly]

Vitaly, yes, I know how to search, but who would have convinced me that they are not harmful ... that is the question ... You wrote so well about the pseudo ceramic coating, maybe you have something smart here too?

Lenochka, choose useful info here and don't worry.

"... It has already been written about the" stone "coating, this is a reinforced PTFE-based coating with a decorative effect, this coating has nothing to do with stones. Accordingly, this coating has all the technical and hygienic characteristics characteristic of this type of coating. Fissler enough a well-known Western European brand, here you have to look at what specific product we are talking about A healthy lifestyle, or rather a part of it - proper nutrition, by and large does not depend on dishes.In general, discussions about ecology in the context of dishes do not look entirely correct. There is a list of materials approved by the Ministry of Health for the production of utensils in contact with food. These are the materials that are tested by hygienists, i.e. they do not pose a threat to the health of consumers ... "

This is the answer from the Pans, Pots & Covers expert in this thread.

Pan for pancakes, 24 cm, AMT Gastroguss with beveled edge. AMT was chosen by reading thread 1 and 2 about frying pans
Heavy.
Detachable handle, comfortable and high quality.

For the purchase of a frying pan, they presented a Russian glass thermal lid of choice by diameter.

Process.
They knew how quickly, if they managed to take a picture.
The wife liked the frying pan

The problem is that they are washed well for the first six months (fat from low sides), and then you will wipe off the fat of figs ...

Along with the fat, polyorganosiloxane is also "washed away" - a polymer due to which the effect of non-sticking is provided at the initial stage of operation. And only the "ceramic" base of the coating remains in the frying pan, into which the fat is eaten in such a way that you can wash the figs, that's why, at first, an excellent carriage inevitably turns ... into a pumpkin.

Has anyone used Faberlic cookware? Interested in a stainless steel pan. I heard that everything burns on them (I have the left one. Everything really burns on it). I saw steel for frying at professional chefs. Or do they have an alloy? I decide on a purchase. Perhaps, if it is “real,” then food will not really burn in it? Someone used these? Made of stainless steel AISI 304 (18/10), triple thermo-accumulating bottom, some kind of fine satin inside. Very expensive, so I ask for your advice.

[LiudmiLka]

LiudmiLka, take a better "real" at once, a proven company.
De Buyer, for example.
They, of course, need special care, food cannot be left in a pan, washed immediately, wiped off. But the food doesn't stick. I have two pancakes, I bake it calmly, I don't even grease it with butter, only at the beginning of frying, well, I add a little oil to the dough.

We sell them in the Metro, and also in different places, but in the Metro the prices are the most humane.

A twig will come out with a very good discount. Therefore, the question of buying arose (otherwise I would not even think about it, because there is a lot of things for frying in the bins)))

Well, then at your own peril and risk :))
In general, you need to know how to use steel dishes, I even fried eggs in a steel frying pan. (I recently showed pictures in the topic about induction cookware)

I'm embarrassed to clarify, steel can be rust and stainless steel. Stainless steel is easier to clean.
And rusty is de Buyer, it requires special care. Here I have no friendship with a stainless steel.

A twig will come out with a very good discount.

I looked at how they were pushing their dishes. I realized that even a double markdown cannot seduce me.))

[LiudmiLka]

LiudmiLka,
Faberlic is a typical MLM company with a "ruble in, three out" economy. Without this, the "scheme" of sales does not work. Therefore, a 100% discount is still far from an adequate price. At the moment, dishes under the trademark Faberlic are produced at the Turkish factory Hursultan. The factory is not bad in terms of quality, but nothing outstanding, and even more so for such a price. The triple thermal storage bottom and 304 steel are now no surprise. Fine satin is a type of stainless steel surface polishing, when the surface is first polished in a mirror and then matted with an abrasive tool. It makes no sense to feed 7 levels of sellers for that kind of money. If you like Turkish dishes, then it is better to buy the same KORKMAZ. In terms of quality and technical characteristics, this is perhaps even better.

They now have a promotion for consultants, plus discount percentages for the consultant himself and get a 68% discount. They will take me at this price.
Not in the subject, but I really like their household chemicals. Therefore, there is a little trust in them. Although there are some manufacturers, here are different, but ...

They have a bad habit of offering high quality products at the start of sales. After some time, the goods will go under the same brand, the quality of which will be much lower. Unlike the price, it will jump. What did you want? Each of the 7 levels wants to eat every day! So keep an eye on the quality of this chemistry.

[LiudmiLka]

LiudmiLka,
Faberlic cosmetics and household chemicals are a completely different story. The so-called consultants (distributors) work for a percentage of sales. Therefore, all these "discounts" are simply not 300% profit, but somewhere around 230%.
For how much and what exactly were you offered with this discount?

There is no KORKMAZ in Moldova. In general, we have solid fakes everywhere. There were even Vitesse stores selling counterfeit dishes of this brand, Gipfel, and so on. Therefore, Faberlik is not the worst of evils, but, of course, not at full price.
Teskom's dishes were generally sold at fabulous prices. True, now I do not know what they have and how much, because there is only one store left for the whole city.
Our prices are in lei, but a discount of about 70% is obtained. I will calculate in another currency later.

Added on Thursday, 30 Mar 2017 20:12

The original price of a frying pan with a lid with a diameter of 24 cm is 155 dollars, it will cost me 49 dollars.

[LiudmiLka]

LiudmiLka,
Horror - did someone really dare to forge Vitesse and Gipfel? Made something out of foil, not otherwise ...
KORKMAZ is in Ukraine. Tescoma is the same Chinese tableware as Vitesse, Vinzer and others, the main part of the price of which is the payment for its fake origin.
Well, this price is within reasonable limits, and the initial one is clearly inadequate. Another question is whether you will be able to make friends with this frying pan. As they write here, not everyone succeeds.

No, well, even if you fail to make friends, you can still shift there that cooking for which you don't need special skills - sautéing for borscht, stewing vegetables, frying pancakes, batter, meat and fish. Already help.

In principle, if the money is not very recent, then three thousand for our money is a fairly reasonable price for 24 with a lid.

I don’t know if I’ll make friends. On the one hand, I study and follow the instructions to the technique in the strictest way, and then I improvise. Need to try.
I read reviews that it turns out tastier in it than in other pans. Maybe. I have a favorite cast iron wok with a glass lid. It turns out such delicious food - the same products, but the taste is different.
The price is reasonable because this person close to me is a consultant.

It was Vitesse and Gipfel who forged (by the way, I have a lot of their dishes, knives). The above wok, in my opinion, is also Vitesse. Information about the discovery of these stores (with display cases, in prominent places) was in the news. And about markets, bazaars, flea markets in general, you can not mention. It goes without saying. Maybe Deribasovskaya products?

It was Vitesse and Gipfel who faked

Absolutely not the brands to be counterfeited. I also understand Fissler, WMF, Sillit - so even no one faked them, except perhaps only Zepter, and even that is rather clumsy. And these two pseudo-European brands themselves did not even "fake" badly themselves, selling everything under their own brand ... Dishes are not watches and clothes ... So "fake" Vitesse is, by definition, nonsense, since by itself, this brand is already a fake. Although it is possible, this is a purely Moldovan phenomenon. If you fake it thoroughly, then such a "fake" will come out at the same price as the "original". Of course, there are legends about the technological capabilities of Deribasovskaya, but you won't see something like impact presses and other specific equipment ... and why, if you can buy ready-made in China.

Fissler, WMF, Sillit - we have never had such dishes. Zepter was distributed a hundred years ago. There has been nothing for a long time. China is the best there is. Enameled dishes are Russian so-so (cherepovets) and Ukrainian. We simply won't buy expensive dishes because of the very low standard of living. All were bought from the Romanian gypsies with sets of stainless steel pans (fakes for expensive dishes like Zepter). Every family has such wealth

By the way, I have a de Baer steel pan. She removed it. She got me. Nothing can be stored, it rusts and burns. Nafig such happiness.

rusts, burns

Did you rub it with salt?
I don’t know what to do because of rye, and I’m not comfortable taking the handle. I gave (to the enemy)

[LiudmiLka]

LiudmiLka
The situation is understandable, especially with the Roma. I just wrote in the vein that in fact there is no economic sense in the dishes of such brands as Vitesse and Gipfel. Firstly, there is no value of the brand itself (reputation), and secondly, under these brands, the vendors themselves produce dishes of the price economy segment such as Peterhoff, which no normal brands that value their reputation will ever produce.

[mr.Catlery]

mr.Catlery, what can you say about the Gourmet Classic frying pan (grill, grooved surface)?

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrow, OlgaGera,
Salt will not help in this matter. We must learn how to properly prepare such a frying pan. We need to start with the destruction of rust. This can be done mechanically or chemically. Then wash, wipe thoroughly and immediately. Warm up on the stove, brush with oil and warm up thoroughly almost to smoke. Then let it cool again, grease it with oil and warm it up again. In principle, 3 times should be enough. And after that, proceed to the products. After frying, do not use dishwasher and alkaline NaOH-based detergents, wash with handles and without enthusiasm. Over time, with frequent use, the problem of corrosion and outright adhesion will go away. All the same is correct to use for a cast iron frying pan.

Added Friday, 31 March 2017 1:24 pm

mr.Catlery, what can you say about the Gourmet Classic frying pan (grill, grooved surface)?

And under what dishes do you plan to use it and on which stove?

[LiudmiLka]

LiudmiLka
in the dishes of such brands as Vitesse and Gipfel there is no economic sense to counterfeit something. Firstly, there is no value of the brand itself (reputation), and secondly, under these brands, the vendors themselves produce dishes of the economy price segment such as Peterhoff, which no normal brands that value their reputation will ever produce.

Well, yes, she laughed at herself yesterday.But what's even funnier is that there was news on TV and everywhere about this, and I have a lot of dishes, and tolerably in use, apparently there is nothing to compare with

[mr.Catlery]

mr.Catlery, gas stove. I want to fry meat and fish

[mr.Catlery]

mr.Catlery, gas stove. I want to fry meat and fish

Is it like this?

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... If yes, then it is suitable for the indicated dishes, but you need to understand that it is not a universal purpose. Most likely, it will not be possible to completely avoid burning, you need to select the heating, but in general, if the price is within 2200 rubles, then you can try it for meat and fish. Well, or is it better to ask those who already use it (alas, I have no such experience). Gourmet pans in 3 versions of the inner surface, this is one of the options (surface such as macro / micro grill).

[OlgaGera]

OlgaGera,

No, I didn't rub it with salt, but I prepared it like a cast iron. Nope. all the same it is worth at least somewhere to gape, to forget something in her - and again the same thing.

In have already thought of what. Cast iron cookware with thermometer
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