SoNika
Vika, aha, for the next

guests will arrive at the weekend, one hero of the Russian Federation (? I don’t know what they are called now), bought a chicken, pickled it, vacuum it, froze it, I want to fry it. Would not be disgraced

Maybe in the usual ways? And so I'll cook some more
Ilmirushka
Virine, well, why is it so insecure? After all, there will be more than one chicken in the menu for the guest, and if something does not work out, then do not put it out, let it remain the first experience. And if it works out, you will make a splash!
SoNika
Ilmirushka, the support is so pleasant. So I'm a former chef and I cook a lot and often, and complex dishes (I like to get confused), but every time I worry ... I have to be simpler. Although, to be honest, they began to gather less and less, more on the phone calls ... and yes, there are more than 20 people in companies. a couple of years have not been going already ... we are getting old And everything is done slower, viscous or something
Ilmirushka
Virine, I now have holiday cooking for two or three days. I make snacks in advance - on the first day, some cheese rolls, herring rolls. On the second day, I prepare everything for salads, for hot dishes, I peel potatoes, marina chicken, and on day X I already collect salads and put on hot dishes so that the guests arrive. And it turns out that everything is ready, and I'm not tired. Good luck! And have a good evening with a distinguished guest
Mirabel
Virine, I would not spoil my nerves before receiving guests. Suddenly something is wrong, nevertheless the new frying pan certainly has its own nuances.
I am also very stressed before receiving guests, even when young people come almost omnivorous better familiar pizza
And we will wait for the impressions of the new stewpan.
Alena Besha
Yesterday I bought a frying pan from NevaMetallPosuda TM (NMP) at a sooooo tasty discount at a local "Magnet" hyper. Such a huge frying pan - a removable handle, d = 28 cm. Line "Special", it says - 5-layer polymer-ceramic non-stick system. Well, I'm going to test what kind of system is it? Bottom thickness - 6 mm, walls - 4 mm, board height - 7 cm. Whole stewpan. With the full declared value of 2790 rubles, the frying pan cost me only 1299 rubles. The cover, however, had to be bought separately. I am glad that the Russian manufacturer. I hope it will perform well in operation, and the bottom does not deform over time
Py. Sy. And also - by chance yesterday in "Okay" I saw pans from their TM, it says - cast. Inexpensive, but quite good, analogue of NMP! Available were 22 and 24 cm. Maybe who needs it? I wound myself on my mustache, I need to buy.
Ilmirushka
Vika, my composition of guests is almost always the same, and I, on the contrary, every time I cook some new dish, well, or modified in some new "casserole", otherwise I cannot be surprised, I taught them. I just always make a couple of dishes of the same type (hot, for example), if I do something completely new, if I fail, I have the opportunity to put the rest on the table
SoNika
Ilmira, aha also do .., but became anxious. The guest is high in rank, not in behavior
You will also have to make your favorite family salad in advance (they brought it from the sea), it has been 3 years since it supplanted "Olivier" It really can't be done much in advance, but in the evening you can take a chance ..., I just spread the potatoes before serving.
Vika, you are right, but I have already been convinced recently that it is better not to experiment with unknown dishes, in such cases,

decided to make (compared onion pies) Ilya L's onion and immediately his khachapuri ... well, I was not impressed with the results ...And apparently mine too, judging by the leftovers in the refrigerator It is necessary to wrap the khachapuri in a different way - in his case, one dough, it turns out very dry. The pie is good, but you have to add ingredients along the way, because the dough is steep and heavy, but the guests liked it, and my homemade ones liked Olin's onion better. pie.

Ilmirushka
Quote: SoNika
favorite family salad (brought from the sea), it has been 3 years since it replaced "Olivier"
Virine, and share the recipe with us
SoNika
Ilmira, ... what topic?

I wrote somewhere that we brought it from Novorosiysk, bought a ready-made one at the GM, and my husband got it, went after him every day, asked to do it ... studied the layers and cook. He's a little confused. But it leaves with a bang, both "salad bowls". As every family has its own specialties, my guests order 2 salads at once. This one was brought from Germany, but alas, I'm not making it yet, that is, there is no radichio for some reason ... and caramelized bananas ..



Alena Besha, Congratulations. Share your experience.
The other day, I bought it for ... it's fashionable for a coupon from purchases, in the local SMar-those a frying pan nadobovskaya, baked pancakes. I wiped it with a napkin and that's it! Generalized in the area of ​​900 rubles. diameter 26
Ilmirushka
Quote: SoNika
what topic?
Virine, a separate recipe would certainly be great! Well, or in a personal
SoNika
Ilmira, sorry, I'm gathering guests to the dacha ... You can, in a week, take a picture of the result so that it is clear and I will post it
Ilmirushka
Virine, but who is against something, we wait, sir!
Mandraik Ludmila
Virine, take your time, but lay out the salad, I'll wait the same, the main thing is not to overlook, knock on the PM, as you put it out, please!
Mirabel
Quote: Ilmirushka
my composition of guests is almost always the same,
This, as I understand it, children and grandchildren? Well, everything is correct! Who else to experiment on
Virineya has a VIP reception, everything should be clear there.

Alena Besha
SoNika, Thank you!
Girls, did anyone try pans from TM Pyrex? I also saw cool things yesterday, with a discount supposedly: girl_red: The bottom is pimply, interesting
SoNika
Quote: Ilmirushka
my composition of guests is almost always the same,
we have different ... a lot of friends ... but saves, I repeat, we don't collect at 14-20 .., but in parts, families ... I want to arrange a thematic evening, let everyone sculpt dumplings that we bought dough in vain
Girls, I’ll quickly share, in my opinion, I once wrote ... my signature dessert that guests love. It is done quickly, from the available products and the result is mmm.
Bananas, slightly greenish, cut lengthwise, into halves. Fry in a small amount of sl. butter, sprinkle with sugar, stirring, caramelize, drip cognac, I drip it, so that the last drops drip along the edge and everything in the pan is blazing, caramelized, and just shake it. This is optional. In ready-made bowls, I spread hot banana halves, quarters (as cut) and ice cream on top
Try it, you can also sprinkle it with cinnamon when frying.
Ilmirushka
Vika, nope, I don't always have children with grandchildren, the youngest lives in another city, does not come so often. For a senior, work often interferes with our holiday schedules, but the circle of friends has long been settled. And there is also a VIP-person - a multiple champion of all Europe and the world, no kidding. So everything went as they say




Quote: SoNika
Bananas, slightly greenish, cut lengthwise, into halves. Fry in a small amount of sl. butter, sprinkle with sugar, stirring, caramelize,
....
Virine, thanks, I must try
SoNika
Quote: Ilmirushka
I have children with grandchildren ...
Ilmira, the main thing is that people are dear, pleasant, interesting

My junior became a mischief, I do not like, for example, how he communicates with friends and us now (right with his fingers), but when he brought medals from the championships, he did not behave like that
Try it, once I saw such a dessert, caramelized bananas in the box. sugar, with cinnamon, cognac ..., and sometimes we do not have cinnamon (not everyone likes it), but immediately thought of putting it on hot ice-cold ice cream and it turns out nyamka. Glad if you like it.

Ilmirushka

Quote: SoNika
My junior became a mischief, I do not like, for example, how he communicates with friends and us now (right with his fingers), but when he brought medals from the championships, he did not behave like that


Virine,

star fever...

will pass!
Wit
Quote: Alena Besha
... The line "Special", it says - 5-layer polymer-ceramic non-stick system. Well, I'm going to test what kind of system is it?
Can you link to the description? Even the "system" was embarrassing ... especially the 5-layer

And now let's read and think about the connection between "ceramic" and non-stickiness presented in the heap. And about "... WITHOUT the use of PFOA / perfluorooctanoic acid / ...", which provides non-stickiness. Finally, a quote from the NPM website itself (NevaMetallPosuda):
"Ceramic" coatings do not contain PTFE (polytetrafluoroethylene), a component that ensures non-stickiness. If there is no PTFE in the coating, then the non-stick properties of the dishes are quickly lost during use, and the food will certainly burn. Therefore, it is more correct to call dishes with "ceramic" coating "easy-to-clean", that is, a coating that is easy to clean. "
Do you have any questions? Therefore, I asked for a link to the "writer"
Alena Besha
Wit, Vitaly, you are attentive as always! And the information (quote) I simply "ripped off" from the packaging - a protective cardboard insert on the frying pan itself. That is, this is precisely their, IMPShnaya submission of information.
And here are a couple of quotes from the package: "The non-stick coating is made ON A WATER BASIS. The non-stick coating is made without PFOA (perfluorooctanoic acid). The non-stick coating belongs to the safest, IV class according to GOST R (this group also includes drugs used in medicine.) The products are tested according to the conventional cooking cycle: heating up to 170 * C, cooling, rubbing with a sponge with a 5% detergent solution. Frying pans with a TITANIUM coating can withstand more than 4000 such cycles. "
"The 5-layer non-stick polymer-ceramic system TITANIUM, due to its special composition, structure and thickness of about 100 microns, is the standard of a wear-resistant non-stick coating, unsurpassed in terms of service life and the duration of preservation of non-stick properties. The product meets the requirements of GOST R 51162-98. 36 months. Subject to the rules of operation, the service life of the product is not limited. "
Py. Sy. In general, I like the frying pan. Solid I'm such a thing, solid, not flimsy. Compared to Ashanovskaya thin-walled "EveryDenskaya" (own TM Ashan), which my husband bought after moving "for the first time" - a DEEP thing, not kakashander, sorry for the expressions Because with the last frying pan I was tormented - on the gas stove the bottom jarred and led SO that it was disgusting to cook on it. Here, I'll throw it out now. And I'll go peel potatoes - test a new unit


Wit
Yes, the frying pan is not bad and with proper care will last more than one year. And now we read the answer from Ilya Nikolaevich, which I just received and are no longer fooled by the marketing tricks of Lent, Magnitov, etc.
After all, I found this about this frying pan:
The 4-layer non-stick polymer-ceramic system TITANpk has increased wear resistance, achieved due to a special structure and a special application technology. This is the company's own patented development, which has no analogues in Russia. The prototype coating was used in the construction of the Buran spacecraft and orbiting satellites.
The TITANIUM PC system contains water-based non-stick layers.
the TITANIUM PC system is traditionally produced WITHOUT the use of PFOA / perfluorooctanoic acid /

Obvious nonsense, so I asked Mr. Catlery for details

[09.09.2017 19:01] Ilya N. Petunov: And rightly so Vitaly :-) About "prototypes" and "Burana" is a common commodity mythology. Now they really have calmed down with these fairy tales, but sellers continue to repost this nonsense. Titanium PC is a reinforced 3-layer PTFE-based coating, water-soluble just like other manufacturers, about the level of Quantanium from Whitford and C3 Greblon from Weilburger. They write that it is 4 layers, but in fact they call the rough surface of aluminum the fourth layer. NMP pans with this coating are pretty good, but, as a rule, they have an adequate price only for stocks in Lenta and online stores.
"Polymer-ceramics" is nothing more than a marketing trick, coming up with a new name for a long-established and well-known coating.

[09.09.2017 19:03] Ilya N. Petunov:

Song
Quote: Alena Besha
Ashanovskaya thin-walled "EveryDenskoy" (own TM Auchan), which was bought by her husband after moving "for the first time"
My aunt has a hundred-ruble Ashanovskaya thin-walled pancake pan that serves without complaints for a year. And sometimes I even think about buying it for me too ... it's so light.
Alena Besha
Wow ... Thank you! And they here on the packaging and layers "in the cut" painted, all 5 (!!!!) True, about space, Burany and others like them - not a word. It is written: water-based top layer; water-based intermediate layer; polymer-ceramic layer; solid ceramic base; surface with improved adhesion.
I regard such discounts for this model of frying pans only with the desire to sell a product that is not for sale at full price. Anyway, I am pleased to pay just 1299 instead of 2790, which could be ripped off. The frying pan will justify this amount in any case




Song, expensive! We do not have a pancake - the usual 26 cm - well, terrible horror! With all my love for dishes, for technology (I do not want to offend anyone or spoil the reputation of TM!) - it jarred it notably, moreover, it was used carefully. The bottom is now convex on the outside, and waves on the inside. The oil is not evenly distributed. Fries well so far, non-stick qualities are good. But I cannot forgive her this external strong deformation.
SoNika
Quote: Ilmirushka
will pass!

oh, no ... I think he wants to seem adult and independent, considering this behavior to be cool ... but as if outside the house, he calls ... "hu-hu"

Marinated semushka, I plan to check the pan tomorrow
Buttercup, remind, okay? Hello to peter
Vitaly,
oh, there was a set with a ring for multi 990 r, with a transfer from S. P 1500 mliin




I rent one more salad, which guests order in advance (brought from Germany, from a Ukrainian woman), it is simpler, but the ingredients are not always on sale:

radichio salad, arugula, tomatoes, soft cheese, take "feta" or varieties of salted, soft. cheeses.
I put arugula on a dish in a circle, finely planed radichio, cherry halves, sometimes capers (olives, olives - according to the mood) on it, and fill everything with dressing: ol. oil, c. sauce, jam, jam (cranberries, peaches) or honey, French mustard, you can give a little garlic, whisk everything, whisk and season the salad. You can make variation 2, (I like it less) instead of cheese and tomatoes, chopped limply. dates and dressing, less sweet.

dopleta
Quote: Wit
mythology
I don’t know what kind of "mythology" is there, but these pans are really very high quality. I have been using dishes with a water-titanium coating for a very long time, and it only makes me happy. And the price justifies itself, considering that these pans serve for years, and many expensive German, Italian pans with ceramic coating were thrown away after a couple of months of use. But I remember that Tanyusha's cover was swollen. I climbed to read the reviews and found that this was a manufacturing defect, rare, but common. And I also found in the reviews that now, supposedly, their quality has dropped ... It's a shame if so. On my pans (they are thick, cast, no worse than cast iron, and even better in some way) you can scrape with a knife, and nothing happens to them.
julia_bb
Quote: Alena Besha
NevaMetallPosuda "(NMP). Such a huge frying pan - removable handle, d = 28
It's a good frying pan, I have had one at my dacha for a couple of years, because there are a lot of people going there, it's very convenient)




SoNika, decorate your salads with separate recipes, pliz, when the time will be. Very interesting so as not to get lost in the topic
Song
Quote: julia_bb

SoNika, decorate your salads with separate recipes, pliz, when the time will be.Very interesting so as not to get lost in the topic
I subscribe to the request.
Marfusha81
And I like the stainless steel Kuhar more and more. I even mastered an unnamed stainless steel frying pan in the country. I learned to fry meat on it so that it does not stick tightly.
Wit
For lovers of dishes from Muscovites! On Monday, the HouseHold exhibition opens in Moscow in Crocus. Ilya Nikolaevich (Mr / Catlery) will be there with his dishes. There will be a lot of dishes and all kinds. You can feel it and try it on a tooth.
Ekaterina2
I have both a saucepan and a large frying pan - NevaMetal Dishes, Titanium coating. They are 3 years old already, I'm happy. Small frying pan - Kukmara, also 2 years normal flight. I would have taken a small NWO, but then at a discount in our store there were only large sizes.
Alena Besha
So I hope that everything will be successful with the NWO). And small (22.24 cm) I saw in "Okey" at a discount - 22 - 500 rubles with a penny, 24 - 600 with something. It seems to be inexpensive, and the quality is similar to that of NWO. Need to try.
SoNika
Song, it's nice that they will come in handy, but suddenly there are already similar ones ...?




Maybe we'll create a theme ... waiting for guests ...
Ilmirushka
Quote: SoNika
Maybe we'll create a theme ... waiting for guests ...
it would be interesting, both for preparations for a short time, so that on day X the preparation of the dish took a minimum of time, and for decoration, after all, it is at home, almost always without assistants, and not professional, but I want it to be beautiful.
SoNika
Vitaly, thank you: girl_pardon: sorry we are not Muscovites.




Ilmira, but there is no such topic?

And then we will run into ... again, they will write nasty things in a personal message I'm here with raids ... I rustle around the house, the PC is on, I crawl perdically ... I'm not aware of all the events

Ilmirushka
Virine, it is imperative to look, but the old-timer girls will not let them be self-willed, join and either put a taboo, or they will give green. In general, I realized a long time ago that the theme is derived from the theme and there are many related and essentially similar.
SoNika
Ilmira, if you see something similar, write After all, you need to create a recipe with a photo, but for now there is no radio ... not to go to Moscow for it ... Until I found a similar topic ...
vatruska
Quote: Wit
HouseHold in Crocus
Vitaly, this is all great, of course ... but it always pissed me off that as something interesting and necessary it was so necessary on weekdays!
Wit
vatruska, It doesn’t just infuriate me, but: mad: it just infuriates me!
selenа
Quote: Wit
infuriates, infuriates !!!
And I got myself together and I'm afraid for my mental health on the one hand and for my budget on the other
Wit
Take your husband with you and give him your wallet
Albina
Quote: Alena Besha
from TM "NevaMetallPosuda" (NMP). Such a huge frying pan - a removable handle, d = 28 cm. Line "Special", it says - 5-layer polymer-ceramic non-stick system.
I have been using this for 5 years. If not for the last year, the son's "girl" while we were on vacation spoiled her. Apparently she baked a pie in the oven and without removing it from the pan, cut it with effort
And I also bought a pancake from this company.
Alena Besha
Albina,
Vooot, it's nice to read that these frying pans are so tenacious. I liked it. Fried fish - everything turned out great, better than many "before".
SoNika
People, Muscovites, in Auchan, discounts from 15-45%, on casters, frying pans and more ...
Elena-Liza
And in St. Petersburg there is a good selection at reasonable prices. Pots, pans, baking dishes. Even the baguette mold was. 3-sectional. About 500 rubles.
SoNika
I fried a chicken in a Copper Chef saucepan, the result pleased. By the way, for this dish, now there is a discount on Ozone, that would have been a wait ...
Tillotama
hello boys girls! I haven’t looked at Temko for a long time. I sit looking at the cast iron again. Fired on a frying pan with a hole inside and a cast-iron lid. on Ali here


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the frying pan is not cheap ... toil 22 cm is not very little? and will it be possible to adapt it besides baking vegetables for baking bread and muffins?
Creamy
Tillotama, and the hole is through? Is there a pallet? The Miracle gas stove immediately comes to mind. I have such an old rarity, dearly loved. Everything comes out of it to taste like from a Russian stove.Only one sadness that it is aluminum, something like sauerkraut cannot be extinguished. I dream of living up to the times of the reincarnation of the gas stainless "Miracle" frying pan. By the way, I measured the inner (working) diameter of my pan "Miracle", and so it is equal to 28 cm.
Tillotama
Quote: Creamy
and the hole is through? Is there a pallet?

a hole through the photo, there are no pallets.
I don’t understand what miracle the oven is about ... I know the electric one there is no hole there is ten at the top
I know the miracle of a gas grill, there is a hole, but there is a different principle - the food is on the grill, and juice drips down, etc., air is blown like an oven.
And here it seems like the products are put on the bottom and baked like that.

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