vernisag
Quote: marina88

Oh, thanks. I'll run to buy and try, if I have any questions, I'll write
Do not forget to buy electronic scales, we do not bake mulberries from books (everything is there with glasses), and so everything must be weighed very accurately.
vernisag
Manna, are you suggesting that we talk her out of this stove? In the topic, all the pros and cons are described, let her decide.
Manna
Quote: vernisag

Manna, are you suggesting that we talk her out of this stove? In the topic, all the pros and cons are described, let her decide.
I'm not suggesting anything. I expressed my opinion.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Mannyash, are you barefoot tama or what? All about sneakers and about sneakers? Where's your best fisherman in the world, let him urgently buy you a new shoe.
In general, I will support you. There has always been a problem with prices in our country. And unfortunately, we will not fix it. Yes, and Ira is right that everything is written in the subject, but let people think for themselves whether the thing is worth the money or not. Although for the frequent, in fact, not worth it. Everything is complicated with us with pricing. Complicated.
vernisag
Nuuu, she cost me a 20% discount of only 4800 rubles, I'm finally happy with it ...
irman
Quote: vernisag

Nuuu, she cost me a 20% discount of only 4800 rubles, I'm finally happy with it ...
Yeah, I did it too.
vernisag
But today I came home from work, I prepared the dough in a bread maker on the program and made such baked hoddogs. Bread Maker Stadler Form Baker One SFBM.990, Two SFBM.9900 by mativs Provencal bars
Rita
Quote: marina88

Girls, hello!
what a cool forum you have, I read it, I'm not overjoyed)) I also want to buy a bread maker, I saw a beautiful Stadler Form in the store.))
Can you tell me what it really is, is it worth taking? Or is there no better Kenwood?
I read the instructions, there are a hundred programs and bells and whistles, are they needed or is it all advertising?
I will be waiting for your answer. Thank you =)
Marina, Do not take Kenwood! And this one is really pretty.
irman
Quote: vernisag

But today I came home from work, I prepared the dough in a bread maker on the program and made such baked hoddogs.
Irish, can you send a bonderolka?
vernisag
Quote: Irman

Irish, can you send a bonderole?
Nope, I can only be a courier. 🔗
marina88
Girls, forgive me, stupid, maybe I'm writing in the wrong place ..
Do you bake cakes in a bread maker? or just cupcakes? and what desserts can be prepared in this stadler form, otherwise I looked at 2 more programs there, some recent ones - cupcake and desserts ... What do you cook on them?
by the way, yesterday I went to buy, but there is no availability of this stove, I ended up ordered it via the Internet, here I sit, I'm waiting
I've already bookmarked recipes.
Manna
Quote: marina88

Do you bake cakes in a bread maker? or just cupcakes?
Cakes? These are biscuits for cakes, I mean? You can also bake biscuits. Only the shape will be like that of a loaf. You can bake pies and muffins. But all this will have a loaf shape. And so ... you can bake anything.
vernisag
Quote: manna

Cakes? These are biscuits for cakes, I mean? You can also bake biscuits. Only the shape will be like that of a loaf. You can bake pies and muffins. But it will all have a loaf shape. And so ... you can bake anything.
Is it possible, current why? If the cartoon is misleading and more convenient? People read, they even cook porridge and bake chicken ... No, I think the device should be used for its intended purpose, bread is bread! Only after all, bread is also different, and all kinds of sweet breads and not sweet pastries with all sorts of additives, bread-pizza for example. Well, your stove will come marina88 , we will talk on this topic in more detail. I will bake, show and tell. Good?
irman
Quote: vernisag

Nope, I can only be a courier. 🔗
Such a courier will choke with saliva until you reach it.
vernisag
Quote: Irman

Such a courier will choke with saliva until you reach it.
Okay, I'll send this one ... 🔗
irman
Quote: vernisag

Okay, I'll send this one ... 🔗
Well, this one is still acceptable, you see it will get there by evening.
irman
Quote: vernisag

Well, that's quicker to eat ... 🔗 will probably lose everything only on the way ...
And what am I going to eat then?
marina88
Girls, thanks, got it
Why then do manufacturers make such programs if they do not use them?
Manna
Quote: marina88

Girls, thanks, got it
Why then do manufacturers make such programs if they do not use them?
Why? Enjoyed. Only very rare. In general, this is such a marketing ploy - the more programs, the cooler
vernisag
Quote: manna

Why? Enjoyed. Only very rare. In general, this is such a marketing ploy - the more programs, the cooler
Yeah, as one girl wrote on another site: - with one button, now you can't sell equipment ...
vernisag
Baked bread today Bread Maker Stadler Form Baker One SFBM.990, Two SFBM.9900
irman
The recipe is in the studio, otherwise you write in a multicooker, but not here.
vernisag
Duc gave the recipe ... stick in
Gray
irman
I'm an old fool, I didn't even notice a head with a hole. For the time being, we will collect.
vernisag
Here is such a bread I got today on the first program, crust 4, I thought it would burn nafig. Blush began when another 40 minutes remained until the end of baking. And he is so beautiful, so rosy all over, the roof really did not blow off a lot. Proofing was not enough for a bit 45 minutes, it seems to me not enough. Although if you bake bread richer by 4, no, 2 or 3.Bread Maker Stadler Form Baker One SFBM.990, Two SFBM.9900 Bread Maker Stadler Form Baker One SFBM.990, Two SFBM.9900 Well, and probably this is my last bread in it, I'll go back to the store ... There are non-mixes, the bucket flies out on the last batch (kneading), the baking program almost charred ...
Manna
Quote: vernisag

Well, and probably this is my last bread in it, I'll go back to the store ... There are non-mixes, the bucket flies out on the last batch (kneading), the baking program almost charred ...
Have you made up your mind? Previously, you seemed to put up with the fact that you need to put the bucket in place after its flights
vernisag
Mann, in the old oven for a year, a bucket flew out two or three times during kneading, when the dough was very tight. In this, on each baking, during the last kneading, she makes a strong jerk in the opposite direction, so that the folding spatula (which I do not use) would fold, and at this moment the bucket flies out and falls at one corner on the ten. If you view one corner it will burn out during baking.
Manna
Quote: vernisag

during the last workout, she makes a strong jerk in the opposite direction, so that the folding paddle (which I do not use) would fold, and at this moment the bucket flies out and lies at one angle on the shadow.
Here are tabes and innovations And such a promising stove was at first
vernisag
I went today and handed over the stove to the service center (tama techniques are all different Chinese right up to the ceiling, do not enter), they turned my whole little head there ...: swoon: Irina's (irman) stove has been living there for two weeks, they don't know what to do with it, and I brought them one more ... I refused to do the examination in my presence, explaining that already at home I had done more than one examination and found out everything. In general, there is no limit to disappointment ... On the way back in Auchan, I bought fresh pressed yeast and Ooo, finally, we got whole grain flour and rye malt. I'm going to get my old gorenieshka (I wrote it off early) The kitchen has become a bit empty, a bit boring ...
Manna
Quote: vernisag

They invited me to do an examination in my presence, I refused
Why refused? It is better to be present at such events so that they do not conclude what they need there as a result
vernisag
Mannochka, they do it there during their working hours and they are paid money for it, but why should I waste my time (I have piecework wages) on proving to them that there is a marriage? Today I spent half a day of time, money for a taxi and a lot of nerves. Irina and I are generally entitled to compensation for moral damage, they brought her to hysterics on Friday ... I don’t want anything, let them decide what they want there, for the first time I come across such a problem, it’s not very pleasant ...
irman
That's for sure. Irish agrees with you 100 percent.
AHAm
This HP is identical to the Morphy Richards 48324 with a stainless steel finish, except for power (615W in Stadler Form Baker One versus 600W in Morphy Richards)
so recipes and parts must match.
It's just that I've been following the forum thread about Morphy Richards for a long time and I really wanted this particular oven, but Russia had no opportunity to buy the equipment of this manufacturer.
Perhaps the problems will be similar.

And about the fact that the bucket jumps out - there's nothing else you can think of.
A program where the use of a folding spatula is provided will rotate back, and since the spatula does not fold, the bucket will jump off
vernisag
Why doesn't it add up? The mixer folds up and the bucket flies out, they re-chemicalized something there ...
AHAm
Quote: vernisag

Why doesn't it add up? The mixer folds up and the bucket flies out, they re-chemicalized something there ...
Quote: vernisag

during the last workout, she makes a strong jerk in the opposite direction, so that the folding paddle (which I do not use) would fold, and at this moment the bucket flies out and lies at one angle on the shadow.
Sorry, how can it fold if you don't use it
vernisag
The fact that I do not use it does not mean that I have not tried it. Of course, I baked it several times and with a folding stirrer, the hole with it turns out to be larger than with the usual one. And the last week I carefully looked for an excuse for myself and the stove, I really didn’t want to take it to the service, I ran it through several programs with a folding stirrer (both on the first program and on fast and on program dough ...), with any stirrer in general, and on any program, a bucket flies every time ...
AHAm
Very, very regrettable ...
I will refrain from buying for now - your message, practically, stopped me on the threshold.
Let's wait - this is an isolated case or a marriage (flaw) of the model.
Stir the dough in the old fashioned way with your hands and in a food processor, line up in the oven and bake in the same place.
And I really wanted THIS xn
vernisag
Yes, it's a shame, the stove as a whole is not bad, rarely in which the top crust turns red. I liked the lighting inside the stove, the shape of the bucket, in my opinion, is very good, although sometimes flour is not mixed in the corners. The programming is of course unsuccessful ... And the marriage (2 ovens out of two) can be due to the fact that the assembly is Chinese? ...
Manna
Girls, well, is your story over or not? It's interesting for us to eat
vernisag
Quote: manna

Girls, well, is your story over or not? It's interesting for us to eat
It's not Manna with us, the further the more interesting and funnier it is ... It's easy and simple to buy and go to the store, but it's very difficult to prove that it is very difficult to move the situation off the ground, I didn't even think that everything would be so problematic. ..
Manna
How about the details? What is the difficulty? Was the expertise convenient for the manufacturer? Did they offer a thread?
vernisag
It seems to me that no one did the examination, Stadler suggested replacing the bucket mount. And I think it's not about him, but about these half a turn back, the jerk is very strong and it seems to me that it will still fly out, maybe not immediately, but let's say in two weeks or a month ...
Manna
Do you want a refund and they don't agree, offering only repairs?
vernisag
Quote: manna

Do you want a refund and they don't agree, offering only repairs?
Why Irina agrees to repair, but I don't know ... if the same thing happens again ... and there are still problems in her, I just did not voice them.
Manna
As I remember, Irina has contacted the service for the second time on this issue? Let them change. If the problem repeats itself for the third time, then according to the law they will be obliged to replace it with a new one or return the money.
vernisag
Irina has been, and has been standing in the serves since then, gathering dust, nothing is being done to her, and mine is next to me for a month soon ...
Manna
AAAAA, even so! Well then, to the society for the protection of consumer rights - they do not have the right to keep the equipment for so long! Or you can try to contact Stadler directly
vernisag
They have applied this way more than once, but they can keep it for 45 days ...
vernisag
And the problem is that Irina is from Dzerzhinsk and I'm from Kstovo and you can't hit Nizhny, but it's Saturday and Sunday. they have a day off.
Manna
So, Irina has been eating for more than 45 days, as I understand it.
And what does Stadler answer personally? Offers repairs and that's it? No options?
If there is a marriage certificate, you can return the stove to the store anyway.
Demand a conclusion in the service. After all, if Stadler agrees to replace the mount, then he admits the presence of a marriage!

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