SvetaGdeTo
manna, you write that you cooked porridge without a DELAY ... And what is a delay and what is needed for - I also did not understand it
azaza
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manna, you write that you cooked porridge without a DELAY ... And what is a delay and what is needed for - I also did not understand it
The deferral is the timer. That is, the porridge does not start to cook immediately, when you pressed "start", but later, according to the timer.
Manna
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manna, you write that you cooked porridge without a DELAY ... And what is a delay and what is needed for - I also did not understand it
When you say that you want the porridge to be ready in the morning, this is the delay, which is set using the "Timer" and "+" / "-" buttons. That is, as she said azaza, the porridge is not prepared immediately after pressing the "Start" button, but will be ready after the time interval set using the "Timer".
SvetaGdeTo
Oh, girls, I don't understand something with the timer Although ... I somehow manage to cook on it True, I still do not fully understand what I press there.It is very inconvenient (for me, at least) that time is not shown. It is said that one "tyk" is 6 minutes. You need to know the multiplication table by 6 ... you press and the time is not shown, how much you pressed there ...
Manna
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Oh, girls, I don't understand something with the timer Although ... I somehow manage to cook on it True, I still don't fully understand what I press there.It's very inconvenient (for me, at least) that time is not shown. It is said that one "tyk" is 6 minutes. It is necessary to know the multiplication table by 6 ... you press and the time is not shown, how much you pressed there ...
Yes, there is a disadvantage to this. Of course, it is much better if the timer can be set at a certain time (as, for example, in Brand 37501), and not at intervals (as in most multicooker), and even in units of measurement, and not in hours-minutes. But in this case, the price of this multi would be completely different.

Svetlana, and I can advise you to make a sign and attach it next to the cartoon. A tablet of such a plan: 0.1 = 6 minutes 0.2 = 12 minutes 0.3 = 18 minutes 0.4 = 24 minutes 0.5 = 30 minutes 0.6 = 36 minutes ... 1 = 1 hour 1.5 = 1 hour 30 minutes, etc. In order not to bother with arithmetic
SvetaGdeTo
Nuuuu .... the fact that 1.5 hours is 1 hour 30 minutes - I still think about it!

But the plate that you advised (on 6), I will definitely write it! What to take from a musician ..... old th
Manna
Today I tried the "Bake" mode again. And I tried it on baking a small biscuit. I put it on for 1 hour. I assumed that if the temperature is 140-150aboutC, then the biscuit will be baked in 1 hour. It was not there. I open the cartoon in an hour, and there is dough on top. I quickly closed and put another 0.9 on the "Pastry". The biscuit, of course, fell out anyway. But I was now interested in the bottom. I turn the biscuit over, and it stuck to the bottom of the bowl just a little bit (by the way, the bowl was then very easily washed off with a soft sponge and water).
Here is the bottom of the biscuit
Multicooker Kromax Endever MC-31
What is the conclusion? The "Bake" mode - not "scum" at all

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Nuuuu .... the fact that 1.5 hours is 1 hour 30 minutes - I still think about it!
SvetaGdeTo
What is the conclusion? The "Bake" mode - not "scum" at all

And why did you bake a biscuit on the Bake. and not at Baking? .... or something I didn't understand
azaza
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And why did you bake a biscuit on the Bake. and not at Baking? ... or something I didn't understand
To find out what this mode is! We need to decipher it, maybe this is a very sensible regime, we just don't know about it yet. If the instructions do not say anything about it, you will have to find out empirically.
Manna
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And why did you bake a biscuit on the Bake. and not on Baking? ....or I didn't understand something
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To find out what this mode is!
Yes, yes, I'm trying to understand how this mode works.

And about the instructions ... It says: "Groats program: Express, Normal, Roasting". And further:"If you want to cook food with a crispy crust, select the Bake function". In the attached recipe book, there are no recipes for the" Bake "mode. Frying for pilaf, for example, is recommended to be done on" Baking ", according to this recipe book. And among the recipes from the section Program "Groats: Express, Normal, Roasting" recipes for rice, pilaf, buckwheat, millet. And all of them are for Express or Normal modes to choose from. Not a word about "Baking" among the recipes.

In general, while the "Baking" mode is somehow unclear. As I understood from the instructions, the manufacturer assumed it for cereals with a fried crust and with an adjustable time (not an automatic program) from 1 hour. By the way, the automatic mode "Express" lasts an average of 35 minutes, "Normal" - 45 minutes. Why is this "Baking"? What to cook on it?
SvetaGdeTo
Can bake meat, fish, potatoes on it ...? Have you tried it?
Manna
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Can bake meat, fish, potatoes on it ...? Have you tried it?
I tried potatoes yesterday:
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Now I have put on this mode a couple of potatoes with onions and spices. After 22-24 minutes, evaporation began (I dripped a little water for reinsurance). Opened, mixed. The potatoes began to fry. This means that the temperature nevertheless rose decently (unfortunately, I do not have a thermometer) After 35 minutes from the start of the mode, I opened the lid again and mixed it. The potatoes are ready but not fried. I left it with the lid open a little more to brown. For 6 minutes it did not brown. She didn't hold it anymore, so as not to boil it down. I think if the potatoes are not interfered with in the process, then the crust may be. And so ... she's gone ... in 42 minutes ...
But there is no meat or fish
SvetaGdeTo
And, exactly, I read about potatoes .... I forgot. I don’t want to bake potatoes. and for meat and fish - we are now fasting.
Pintusha
Can you tell me how to make pilaf in it? Thank you.
Vichka
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Can you tell me how to make pilaf in it? Thank you.
On the "express" you can make pilaf, just rice, pasta.
Manna
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Can you tell me how to make pilaf in it? Thank you.
Sure you may. Two modes are suitable for pilaf: "Express" and "Normal", depending on the amount of rice.

Usually on "Express" I make one multi-glass of cereal. And then yesterday I put 2mst buckwheat. So I waited for this buckwheat, instead of 30 minutes, for about an hour. I couldn't stand it. Opened the lid. The buckwheat was ready (though it was slightly boiled), the bottom was fried, there was no liquid, and the program did not even think to turn off, did not even think to start counting the time in the last 6 minutes. The liquid was in a 2: 5 ratio. I will not do more than 2mst on the Express. Although the instructions say exactly about 2mst (albeit 4mst of water) on the "Express".
Pintusha
How about the bowl? Doesn't it burn?
Manna
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How about the bowl? Doesn't it burn?
After that buckwheat, I filled it with water for an hour. And then she washed herself with just water, even without a sponge. By the way, this was the first time that something was fried to the bowl. This has never happened before.

High quality coating. The manufacturer claims that it is titanium-ceramic.
Pintusha
Thank you, I am choosing a cheap one for a summer vacation, am I looking at it or maybe a supremac? but how does it smell with plastic?
Manna
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but how does it smell with plastic?
There was no smell at all, even with a new one, just unpacked. And I am very sensitive to smells.
SvetaGdeTo
manna, what is the conclusion then? What do you need on NORMAL buckwheat or what? Why does not what they write in their own recipes coincide with how they really do?

This is me and others who are on the Internet, can ask around from experienced ... And if a person without the Internet ... I'm going to give a cartoon to my friend, she is young, but she does not sit on the Internet ... And if there are so many discrepancies and that at first it is necessary to gain experience by the "typing" method .... I'm afraid she will not be very happy with the gift. BUT THING IS GOOD!
azaza
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manna, what is the conclusion then?
The conclusion is simple: you need to adhere to the basic proportion of cereals / water. There was more water than the declared one, so the cartoon went crazy: according to the set program, it should have evaporated the water a long time ago, and the steam does not end in any way. And then we blame the technique. I think so, if the proportions are taken freely, then you should not rely on the automatic machine, it is better to bet on a program where you can independently set the time (such as extinguishing). Or not to cook on the express, but on the normal one.
Manna
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manna, what is the conclusion then? What do you need on NORMAL buckwheat or what? Why is it that what is written in the native recipes does not coincide with how it really is?
Quote: azaza

The conclusion is simple: you need to adhere to the basic proportion of cereals / water. There was more water than the declared one, so the cartoon went crazy: according to the set program, it should have evaporated the water a long time ago, and the steam does not end in any way. And then we blame the technique. I think so, if the proportions are taken freely, then you should not rely on the automatic machine, it is better to bet on a program where you can independently set the time (such as extinguishing). Or not on the express train, but on the normal one.
Yes Yes, azaza absolutely right. The liquid was more than the recommended one, therefore the buckwheat was boiled and grabbed from below. But when I cooked it in the same proportions in 1 cc (that is, 1 cc of buckwheat to 2.5 cc of water), there was no such "crazy" program.

In general, I made the following conclusions for myself:
1. Only 1mst of cereals will be prepared on the "Express". The optimal proportions, as stated in the instructions and verified by me experimentally, are 1: 2 (for rice and buckwheat / I have not tried other cereals yet /).
2. If you need to cook two or more MCTs of cereals, I will cook them on "Normal" (although I still haven't tried it yet, so I don't know how much liquid will be required in this mode).
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I’m going to give a cartoon to my friend, she’s young, but she doesn’t sit on the Internet ... And if there are so many inconsistencies and that you need to gain experience first by typing ... I’m afraid she will not be very happy with the gift. BUT THING IS GOOD !
Any hostess will be pleased with such a gift.
I did not notice any strong discrepancies in the instructions.
But in any case, experience is experience. And each hostess selects the optimal proportions, modes convenient for her, etc.
By the way, speaking about proportions ... Groats are different ... For example, one rice in a 1: 2 ratio is ideal, another is boiled, and the third is a little dry. So ... experience and more experience
azaza
Manna, let me add a little to the previous conclusion. Proportions - yes, without a doubt. But, apparently, except for express ratios cereal / water is also important total amount of water... Apparently, it should not exceed the declared for the express (1: 2 for two multi-glasses of cereal). That is, up to 4 MCT of liquid on a cartoon express sees and perceives as the norm, and everything from above - blows her brains. Therefore, if you need, say, the same 2 mst cereals, but with baboutwith a larger amount of water, it is already better to cook on normal (or basic - what is your name for this mode?).
Manna
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apparently for express except ratios cereal / water is also important total amount of water... Apparently, it should not exceed the declared for the express (1: 2 for two multi-glasses of cereal). That is, up to 4 MCT of liquid on a cartoon express sees and perceives as a norm, and everything from above - blows her brains.
Quite possible. Somehow I'll try again 2mst of cereals for 4mst of water on the Express. Then it will be seen.
Azaza, thanks for the hypothesis
azaza
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Azaza, thanks for the hypothesis
She's dumb for scho! I mean, we’re so crazy!
SvetaGdeTo
Girls! You describe everything here, what and how ... and how much and where
But tell me, this friend of mine, whom I am going to give the cartoon one of these days, has a very "decent family" - 5 children. 4 of them are guys, with two of the older ones being high school students. Maybe she won't need MV for such a family?
mumi
She just needs 2 pieces. ; -D This is not a joke, many large families also dream of a third. especially where mom contrives to cook for different tastes. Well, and the bowl is not for 3L
By the way, there is also a topic about Daewoo - they are cheaper by 3 and 5 liters. 1100r and 1400r at the I-market
A friend of Redmond's, very similar to the latest Cromax models, a little better with programs. And Daewoo is simpler.
SvetaGdeTo
Maybe if Daewoo is so cheap. even worse? or will it break quickly?

And what is needed for 5L is of course! To such a crowd! Well ... let her already buy the second one, if she likes it

Something I do not really know about brands and models. What kind of gift they gave me ... in that one and "poking around" ... yet. Hope to become
master!
mumi
I have a Daewoo a / grill - the cheapest, but it works more than perfectly in the country. The settings are not flexible, mechanics. But it bakes at its own speed better than the Hotter at home. Nothing will stick, even if you overexpose it - the baking crust does not suffer. We practically do not change the temperature, only the time. Well, they took the tables from Hotter, no instructions.
Here is the local temka https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=90187.0
I'm going to buy one precisely because of the price, and try what kind of animal it is. and let it break down in a year for a thousand rubles. (more precisely, for 1100)
SvetaGdeTo
This is yes! My cartoon cost 2000 and my daughter says: "Mom. If the pan gets scratched in it, since you are so worried, then in a year you can buy a new one! For such and such money!"
Manna
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But tell me, this friend of mine, whom I am going to give the cartoon one of these days, has a very "decent family" - 5 children. 4 of them are guys, with two of the older ones being high school students. Maybe she won't need MV for such a family?
Very useful. Only unambiguously by 5 liters, unless, of course, they are superior, and she does not prepare her own for each of them
A cheap cartoon is good because it will not be a pity if it goes bad. You can learn from it. And if your friend likes to cook in a multicooker, she can then buy herself a better and more expensive one.Of my better choice is definitely Brand 37501
SvetaGdeTo
And for some reason I decided that it was very good - Cuckoo ... Even better than Panasonic ... These are the conclusions from what I read ...
Manna
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And for some reason I decided that it was very good - Cuckoo ... Even better than Panasonic ... These are the conclusions from the read ...
Maybe good. And even better than Panasonic. Only it is crazy. And the Brand costs much less, and is not inferior in quality. Yes
Well yes it is already another topic
SvetaGdeTo
costs about 5 thousand.
mumi
A friend has Redmond RMC-M70, tested before her by a large forum. Already updated model. Actually, after her enthusiasm, I thought about such a machine. A lot of programs and manual settings, the recipe book corresponds to the real capabilities of the model. Everything is in Russian. And it costs about 5t. r., that is, as Brand. Then compare them on the i-market and reviews on the forums.
Here is just a sample 🔗
Manna
Here VS NIKA writes about Redmond M 4502 and Brand 37501: "I still have Redmond in the box, after some attempts to cook something in it. We can only hope that someday there will be a better bowl for him.
To all my friends (soon in "classmates" it will be necessary to create a topic about multicooker), I only recommend Brand 37501, in Ukraine a friend bought Dex 60, since it is an analogue, otherwise Brand would also order. In Russia, my girls are not happy with Brand.
I bought them for two daughters, they are happy "


And also from another topic from VS NIKA (among her multicooker: mv Brand-37501; mv Liberton-03-01; mv DEX-50; mv Polaris-508; mv Redmond m-4205 and more ...): "Of all their multicooker, and how many of them you can see, the title of the best multicooker, only Brandy37501!
How much I love Dex50, but Brand is of course ahead!
"

The brand 37501 for 5 liters is worth 4 tons. A cook for 3.5 liters is 6.5 tons, for 4.5 - 21.5 tons. Redmond M70 for 5 liters - 7 tons, and M4502 - 5 tons. R..
Here's a breakdown (all prices are taken from "Yandex. Market" in Moscow).
Anyway, girls, we are somewhat off topic. Yet this topic is about Kromax... And there is a special topic about choosing a multicooker "CHOOSE A MULTI COOKER, A RICE COOKER"(and already part 3).
So that's about Kromax. What else did I notice ... When I tried to bake on the "Bake", there was almost no condensation, but there was condensation on the "Pastry". Here's a riddle
azaza
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When I tried to bake on the "Bake", there was almost no condensation, but there was condensation on the "Pastry". Here's a riddle
When the next. once you use "baking", touch the lid (on top! not inside). Perhaps the upper heating element is heating on this program. If, of course, he is in Kromax at all.
Or the second option - the temperature on baking is much lower than on baking, so there is much less condensation.
Manna
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When in the next.once you use "baking", touch the lid (on top! not inside). Perhaps the upper heating element is heating on this program. If, of course, he is in Kromax at all.
Or the second option - the temperature on baking is much lower than on baking, so there is much less condensation.
The temperature is definitely not lower, because on "Baking" the bottom is not baked, and on "Baking" the bottom sticks slightly to the bottom of the bowl. I still want to try baking on the "Bake" one more time, but not for 1 hour, but ... I don't even know ... maybe 1.5 or 2 ... And lay paper on the bottom so that the bottom does not stick. I want to see what will happen
Pintusha
In general, are you satisfied with the cartoons? Our friends gave us a try on Panasonic (use it for 2: wow: weeks, they themselves don't cook in the cartoon), but I feel my husband won't get away
Manna
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In general, are you satisfied with the cartoons? Our friends gave us a try on Panasonic (use it for 2: wow: weeks, they themselves don't cook in the cartoon), but I feel my husband won't get away
In general, I am satisfied. But this cartoon is not my only one. And I bought it for the dacha. As they say, "cheap and cheerful". She cooks milk porridge perfectly. Milk doesn't even try to escape. Rice, buckwheat are cooked wonderfully. What am I telling you - on the first and at the beginning of the second pages of this topic there are photographs of the dishes that I cooked in it. There are, of course, inconveniences in it. For example, she is silent, which means that you need to catch the moment when cooking ends. There is also an inconvenience with individual settings (the minimum cooking time is about an hour - this is too much for some dishes). But, as I said earlier, the price of this multi covers all the inconveniences
Girls, I'm talking about 2mst cereals on the "Express". Today I tried to cook 2 cc of rice for 4 cc of hot water. It took about 35-40 minutes to cook. The rice has cooked perfectly. So I guess azaza was right at the expense of the maximum volume of water on the "Express", which the cartoon can adequately perceive - 4mst.
SvetaGdeTo
Already read aaaaaas about multicooker I can work as a cartoon consultant in a store

So I chose a friend as a gift (I already wrote), then I read about different ... And what do you think ... I traveled with my husband to several large ... huge stores in Moscow, and there ... one might say, there is almost nothing ... My husband doesn’t like to hang out around the shops, probably could be found with a larger assortment ... But still. From Moskvyyy - I did not expect this! I thought there would be rows of cartoons now. Choose - I don't want to! In one there was Scarlet alone (and at what cost), in the other Panas-10 and ... it is not known at all which (cheap and incomprehensible), in the next Moulinex, Redmond and Panasonic, and in our last call - Panasonic-10 and Polaris 0508 That's what I took. Some of the brands that I called - sellers have not heard!
So now I have a question. I noticed that only my Cromax-31 has such a small power. Is there any limitation in cooking? In baked goods, maybe?

Manna
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So now I have a question. I noticed that only my Cromax-31 has such a small power. Is there any limitation in cooking? In baked goods, maybe?
What does low power mean? You are probably comparing it with 5-liter cartoons? The Kromax MC 31/32 has a power of 600 W. This is good power for a 3 liter multicooker.
SvetaGdeTo
Ahhh ... exactly! Here I am. I have 3 liters Mmmmm ... but I want to have 5
Manna
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Ahhhh ... exactly! Here I am. I have 3 liters Mmmmm ... but I want to have 5
For me, if for 1-2 people, then 3 liters is enough Although, of course, small cakes are obtained in a 3-liter bowl
SvetaGdeTo
Nah ... I have three children ... and HUSBAND
And we don't eat cakes ..... ..... we eat them Well. I mean, a big one is eaten in 1.5 days.
Manna
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Nah ... I have three children ... and HUSBAND
And we don't eat cakes ..... ..... we eat them Well. I mean, a big one is eaten in 1.5 days.
Well then, you definitely need a 5-liter cartoon
SvetaGdeTo
For now, I will master Kromax ... study, and gradually take a closer look and choose something more and ... more abruptly
Manna
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While I will master Kromax ...learn, and gradually take a closer look and choose something bigger and ... more abruptly
Pralna Abruptly and with Manual mode. Yeah This is exactly what is missing in Kromax
SvetaGdeTo
Nuuuu ... then I will torment you! - what should I choose!

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