Manna
Yeah, Bork comes down to our sinful land - each new model is cheaper than the previous one
Larssevsk
Quote: Manna

Well, how is it? Meets market needs - 125 overlapping modes

Yes Yes Yes. For stuffed cabbage, stewing, boiling, dumplings, ABSOLUTELY different parameters are needed.
I'm already silent about soup and compote. Sweet and salty have different boiling points and this fact was taken into account by the developers
Larssevsk
Quote: Manna

Polaris also has a novelty - a multicooker with a viewing window - Polaris PMC 0516ADG, price approx. 3t. R.

As usual, the price, design and functionality are good news. I can't even look at this white bowl. At work, the girl did not listen to me, she bought Polaris 517 instead of Shteba. After 3 months, the skin of the chicken began to grow closer and closer to the bowl during cooking. Now I have generally ceased to love to cook in it due to the fact that the pan is then steamed to wash.
Manna
Quote: Larssevsk
Now I have generally ceased to love to cook in it due to the fact that the pan is then steamed to wash.
She needs to buy extra. bowl with non-stick coating. And 0517 is a very good model.
zogar
Quote: Larssevsk
I liked the new bork very much. And the price is attractive.
It will be more interesting and much cheaper to purchase in PlayerRu for 6 826 rubles. induction cartoon Zigmund & Shtain MC-DS42IH - also for 4 years, but there are more programs and, for my taste, prettier.

"Affordable Beauty - Induction Zigmund & Shtain MC-DS42IH" - copy the theme name with quotes and Google will give you a link.
And here's another review - 🔗
Manna
zogar, do you think that the quality of induction of Sigmund and Stein is the same as that of Bork? We've already seen the quality of induction from Redmond
zogar
In any case, out of 11 reviews on NM, not a single negative one - this quite convincingly characterizes the quality of the multi.
Manna
Quote: zogar
out of 11 reviews on YAM, not a single negative
I don't trust the reviews on the Market. But I decided to read them. All 11 reviews were made when using the appliance for a week or two (and it can be seen that they were made by people who see the multicooker, perhaps for the first time in their kitchen / I hope they really saw her /). And at the same time, one review speaks about the closure of the electrics, the second about the glitchiness of the timer (by the way, this review is negative). And everyone scolds the small print on the display and the lack of backlighting. And of the advantages they call induction, beauty and assembly - the fact that "nothing dangles" Although there is such a thing: "Slightly disappointed in induction heating" There are still general phrases about how she cooks well ... Well, joy about cereals with a reprieve for the morning. In general, I did not find anything significant about the multicooker itself and its work Unless someone burns casseroles and omelettes on Baking. Unfortunately, despite the fact that this model has been on the market for almost a year, I never met a detailed review of her (although I am also interested in this model) Perhaps someone from the bread machine will still decide to buy it, and we will all together watch her real testing
zogar
Take a look at the induction multicooker Zigmund & Shtain MC-DS42IH

Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

You look, someone will really like it and the testing process will start soon!

thet
Hello everyone. In Ourson 5002, when I washed the lid, the plastic ring that squeezes the hole for the valve ball broke. Now I have it idle. The question is - is there such a weak link in all pressure cookers, or are there more reliable designs? Please advise quality and not too expensive. Mine worked for a little over 1.5 years. I think this is very little. Cartoon Panasonic 18 has been working like a clock for the fifth year already, but I'm used to a more "fast-moving" one.
Manna
Quote: tet
Please advise quality and not too expensive.
Is the staff DD1 or DD2 okay? DD1 for 5t. R.
thet
Thank you for the hint, Mannochka. I will watch.
lega
Quote: tet
The question is - is there such a weak link in all pressure cookers, or are there more reliable designs?

My Binaton 2180 pressure cooker is very reliable. I have already had it for several years and I am quite happy with it. The only drawback, in my opinion, is the ceramic coating of the bowl. No, everything is fine there, nothing peeled off, I use the bowl ... just after a while, starchy and protein products began to partially adhere, but this is not a problem for my pressure cooker, but for all ceramic coatings in general. Also the bottom is in a "mesh" - it can be difficult to wash, namely the bottom. If not for this moment, then one could not even dream of a better SV. By the way, the price is quite reasonable - 6 thousand rubles.
Ofeliya
Quote: lga
If not for this moment, then one could not even dream of a better SV.
I think the same about Polaris 0305, if not for her saucepan, it would have been sheer delight. Oh, these manufacturers ...
marmelad
I want to thank the members of the forum once again for not leaving my message unanswered - they advised me to think again what I need and look at other manufacturers. Special thanks to zogar for prompting me to look away Steba - from today I am a happy owner of it.
zogar
marmelad, use it to your health, and so as not to break!
Wildebeest
marmelad, Natasha, I congratulate you on your new assistant, may you have a long-term friendship and mutual understanding.
marmelad
Sveta, thank you - it seems that we have mutual love already prepared meat and rice today
GalinaN
Please advise which manufacturer to choose a multicooker - Philips, Mulinex, Polaris, Panasonic? Or something else in the price range of 3-5 thousand. I’ve already broken my head, I haven’t used a slow cooker before, I look forward to preparing for the chosen time - soup, pilaf, stewing, porridge - for a family of 4 people.
Manna
Quote: GalinaN
soup, pilaf, stewing, porridge - for a family of 4
Panasonic 181. Stadler (if you are from Russia) for 4 or 5 liters. Philips 3036 or later. All of these multicooker have a nice bowl. Cope with the functions that you specified. But I want to warn you that the "porridge" mode of Panasonic and Stadler is touch-sensitive.
GalinaN
Thank you, I just can't understand about sensory programs, if it's not difficult, write in a few words.
Manna
Galina, touch modes are different. The most common option is a mode for complete evaporation of the liquid (usually such an algorithm for cereals, pilaf, buckwheat, rice). Panasonic and Stadler also have sensory modes for risotto modes (the mode is turned off automatically when the temperature in the bowl reaches the set limit, while the consistency of the contents will be "smudge" - in this mode it is convenient to cook meat in sauce, just sauces, or cereals in consistency of risotto) and milk porridge (the device turns off when the porridge acquires the desired consistency). The last mode has crashes I don't know if my explanation is clear
GalinaN
Manna, thanks, in theory everything is clear so far, but until the end, probably. only in practice can you understand.
m @ rin @
Good day! I am tormented in choosing a multicooker, the choice is between Moulinex Cook4Me CE 7011 and Moulinex CE502832, which of the options will still be better or what are the disadvantages of one over the other !?
Manna
m @ rin @, it is difficult to compare them - they are different. 7011 contains recipes. 502832 is easier to use. It is able to maintain 100 ° C without pressure build-up - it is convenient to stew, cook soups, porridge without pressure. But this is purely IMHO. Choose only for you
Here's another opinion on these two models:
Quote: Larra

graneckaya, I myself dreamed MOULINEX CE 7011 for half a year, I really liked the saucepan with handles, but I was embarrassed by many disadvantages. While I was thinking about this novelty, for me this one has much more advantages (modes, accelerated steam release, there are no built-in recipes, for me they are completely useless, well, and much more), so for me there is nothing better than my CE502832 muline shoes at the moment ...I have no doubt that that cartoon is also good, but this one has many more functions and is easier to manage, it is easier to wash, nothing needs to be unscrewed, everything can be easily removed and put in place. So weigh the pros and cons and feel free to buy, in any case you will not regret it)))
Sandy
Moulinex CE502832 in general, it is not a bad pressure cooker with the functions of a multicooker. I will briefly describe my comparisons.

In the Moulinex CE502832, the milk porridge program runs out of milk and clogs the valve.
There is no function to save the program when the power is turned off.
The longest time that can be set is only 4 hours (in the black model).
And in "yogurt" for some reason already 24 hours.
On "baking" the bottom is fried strongly, but there is a "pizza" there tmp. smaller and completely replaces "baked goods".
On the "multichef" there are no temperature maintenance functions, and a delayed start.
The "Texture" function is absolutely useless, because when you select, only the time changes, which can be changed anyway in any program.

From the pros - easy to manage. Programs "frying", "yogurt" and the most important advantage is "multishef" you can use only it and be quite satisfied, it copes.
There is a forced release button on the handle (steam release), no need to play with the valve at the risk of getting burned.
On all programs you can change the time and temperature only for programs "frying" and "multishef"
The time step is 1 minute.
Step pace. 5 degrees.
The minimum temperature "yogurt" is 37 degrees, "multishef" is 40 degrees.
Maximum 170 for "frying" and 160 for "multi-chef".

Otherwise, everything is like everyone else.
GalinaN
On the advice of Manna, I read again on Panasonic 181, what are the advantages of the Panasonic SR-TMJ181 BTW model over the Panasonic SRTMH181HTW, now in Mvideo the first is 5490, and the second is 1990. I also met in the Panasonic SR-TMJ181 B online store, this is the same as Panasonic SR-TMJ181 BTW? And if you choose for the first multicooker, which is still preferable - Philips 3037 or Panasonic 181?
Manna
Quote: Sandy
In the Moulinex CE502832, the milk porridge program runs out of milk and clogs the valve.
It can be cooked on a multi-cooker at 95 ° C - nothing will run anywhere, and there will be porridge like in a slow cooker, however, without delay.
Quote: Sandy
The "Texture" function is absolutely useless, because when you select, only the time changes, which can be changed anyway in any program.
Does the pressure level remain the same?

Quote: GalinaN
On the advice of Manna, I once again read Panasonic 181
I meant MHS181. And the TMJ181 does not have much difference with the previous model, except for strange new modes and a slightly higher quality bowl.
Quote: GalinaN
which is still preferable - Philips or Panasonic?
And who will tell you? There are many who would prefer a Panasonic Philips. However, both are now produced in China. The only, in my opinion, the advantage of Panasonic in touch modes. Phillips has the ability to actively fry. These are their fundamental differences in the modes.
thet
I don't know about Philips, but Panasonic is just wonderful. I have been using it for the fifth year and no complaints - only positive emotions. Take it you will not regret it, especially now it is very inexpensive.
Sandy
Quote: Manna
It can be cooked on a multi-cooker at 95 ° C - nothing will run anywhere, and there will be porridge like in a slow cooker, however, without delay.

Already https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=379119.1120 I only advised it this afternoon and even had an experiment with photons. Yes, without delay and without keeping warm, or set manually after cooking.

Quote: Manna
Does the pressure level remain the same?
No
zogar
Quote: GalinaN
... which is still preferable - Philips 3037 or Panasonic 181?
Among these models, definitely, Philips HD3037 / 03.

The situation with Panasas has changed: before they were made in Thailand and the quality was decent, but now they are molded in China and there are many complaints about the quality.
Svetta
I ask the audience for help.
The dacha needs a 3-liter cartoon with basic functions, well, you don't need yogurt. I have Panas and Perfeza (her cup has almost died), so the experience with cartoons is 5 years. Now there is a large selection of all kinds of models and firms, I just get lost in them ...
Requirements - a non-stick bowl, 3 liters, the main set of functions (at least Panas, steam, stewing, porridge, baking are especially needed), compact size (better cylinder), budget option, availability of purchase in Ukraine.
If for the same money you can buy a MV with a larger volume, then I'll think ...

Yesterday at the Epicenter I saw a miracle of the Chinese industry larger than Panas with a minimum of f-tions for ridiculous almost 400 hryvnias, his name was unpronounceable and unfamiliar. I will go to rewrite the brand again, but I’ll hardly find any reviews ...
Manna
Quote: svetta
Requirements - a non-stick bowl, 3 liters, the main set of functions (at least Panas, steam, stewing, porridge, baking are especially needed), compact size (better cylinder), budget option, availability of purchase in Ukraine.
If for the same money you can buy a MV with a larger volume, then I'll think ...
Polaris Floris is praised. 5 liters. I don't know what its price is in Ukraine. Another four-button Panasonic (we have a very cheap one, I don't know how with that in Ukraine). Another 101th Panasonic (although he fry porridge, if the volume is small). Well, the 10th Panas is also now much cheaper. Maybe there is something else from purely Ukrainian
Svetta
Manna, thanks, Panasiks are good, but it's a little expensive for me ...
What can you say about PHILIPS HD 3033/00? Now we have a good discount for it.
Larssevsk
Manna, I also wanted to tell you about Binaton 2130. I took him to the dacha and opened an awesome thing: it turns out that the "extinguishing" mode is also sensory in it. Moreover, it turns off when the dish acquires a light, slightly fried crust (as I like). She did not use this mode at home.
At the dacha it turned out to be so convenient. We leave the house to the river, to the forest and the soul is calm. The dish turns out to be not raw, like soup and not burnt.
Suddenly the girls will be interested
Manna
Quote: svetta
PHILIPS HD 3033
As far as I remember, it has a non-removable lid plate. The biggest question is the "Steam / Soup / Porridge" mode (somehow it's called)
Manna
Quote: Larssevsk
it turns out the "extinguishing" mode is also sensory
This is overheating protection. I really love this kind of protection on Extinguishing. This is how I love my Cromax. Very comfortably
Larssevsk
Quote: Manna

This is overheating protection. / quote]

What are you? And I thought it was a special touch mode. I was also so surprised that it was extinguishing. Well, in fact, let it be called whatever you like, if only the result is pleasing.

Oh, why did I get such a text ???
Manna
Quote: Larssevsk
Oh, why did I get such a text ???
because you removed the parenthesis

Quote: Larssevsk
let it be called whatever you like, as long as the result pleases
That's right, and this protection is very pleasing. And not all multicooker has it.
Svetta
Quote: Manna

As far as I remember, it has a non-removable lid plate. The biggest question is the "Steam / Soup / Porridge" mode (somehow it's called)

The lid does not bother me at all, the same in Panas, I see no inconvenience.
And what is the question about the Steam / soup / porridge regime? (in general it sounds strange, everything is in a heap ...)
Manna
Quote: svetta
And what is the question about the Steam / soup / porridge regime? (generally sounds strange, everything is in a heap ...)
This is precisely the question: I have a bad idea of ​​steaming and milk porridge in one mode There was a hypothesis that there are three modes on one button, but as far as I remember, it remained a hypothesis
Elena Bo
Quote: Manna
I have a bad idea of ​​steaming and milk porridge in the same mode
Most likely, porridge means buckwheat, not milk. The milk will definitely run away.
anutka2011
Please help me decide - I want a small multicooker (up to 4 liters), be sure - temperature control and non-ceramic coating of the bowl
Stopped at:
Zigmund & Shtain MC-D31
Binatone BM-2170
Philips HD3060 / 03

I was very interested in Binatone BM-2170 - I haven't eaten bread for a long time, but I practice casseroles and cupcake-like things, I suspect that it will be possible to bake them in it ...
Vasilisa VV
Tell me! I choose between two models: in one, the possibility of self-regulation of temperature, in the other - time, which is more important in practice?
zogar
anutka2011, in the sequence of your list, it is worth making a choice, only the filipka should be set aside - at such and such a price (from 5389 rubles), a bowl of 2 liters. and there are only 5 programs, and there are no reviews in YAM at all.

If you specialize in baking flourthen Binatone BM-2170 (from 4548 rubles) beauty: in the bread maker mode, 12 automatic programs are installed for the preparation of bakery products (a separate bowl for 2 liters.), but for everything else in the multicooker mode, it is so sparing, only 4 programs (also a separate bowl, for 3.5 l .): "Rice / pilaf", "soup / stew", "fast" - for cooking stewed vegetables, light soups and sauces, "slow" - for cooking main courses that require a longer cooking time.
The temperature control has only three modes: low, medium, high (the temperature for each mode is not indicated in the Instructions). There are complaints about the build quality and materials from which the cartoon is made and the "delayed start" function is active only for the bread machine mode.

Casseroles and muffins can be excellent in Zigmund & Shtain MC-D31 (from RUB 3138), its multi-cook has a good range (from 30 to 160 degrees), with the same good temperature step (5 degrees). In addition, the MC-D31 is more economical (900 watts versus 1260 watts for the BM-2170) and, in addition, cheaper by one and a half to two thousand.
More versatile device in comparison with Binaton. And the reviews are much better.
In short, flowers for a woman, and ice cream for a child!
anutka2011
zogarThank you very much! such a detailed answer !!!
accurate temperature control is very important to me - so now everything is clear, we must take Sigmund and Stein ...
Manna
Quote: Vasilisa VV
Tell me! I choose between two models: in one, the possibility of self-regulation of temperature, in the other - time, which is more important in practice?
Vasilisa, You'd better name specific models, and we will tell you what to prefer.

Quote: anutka2011
Zigmund & Shtain MC-D31
Binatone BM-2170
Philips HD3060 / 03
Sigmund and Stein is interesting for the stated parameters. The coating at the bowl seems to be quite good. But in essence, I never met any sensible feedback, only emotions and general phrases. In general, if you buy, then only at your own peril and risk.

Binaton is a 2-in-1 multicooker-bread maker. Time-tested. The forum has topic about her.

Philips 2 liter. If this volume is enough for you, then the multicooker is very good. Here topic about her.

Baking is possible in all multicooker. And if you need curd casseroles, then it is better to bake them at 115-120 ° C.
Vasilisa VV
Quote: Manna

Vasilisa, You'd better name specific models, and we will tell you what to prefer.
I choose between "Kitfort" 202 and 203.
anutka2011
Quote: Manna
Philips 2 liter. If this volume is enough for you, then the multicooker is very good. Here is a topic about her.
Thank you! I have already read the topics on the forum (but I overlooked Binaton's temp adjustment ...) And what about Phillips? She's so pretty - you can't help falling in love ... and compact, which is important to me too
zogar
svetta, your choice is definitely REDMOND RMC-M10 (669 UAH in the Rosette and Photos), if you swing by 4 liters, then a good choice REDMOND RMC-M4524 (even cheaper, in Photos for 654 UAH, but there are fewer programs: 6 versus 10 for M10).

And filipok, PHILIPS HD 3033/00 and expensive (in Elmir for 787 UAH), and poor according to programs (on one button a steamer, soup, porridge - in general!), And an inconvenient shape (bulky device), and too big power (980 Tue versus 700 W for M4524 and 500 W for M10) - people complain about burning.

Vasilisa VV, more important is the ability to adjust the time, since the temperature regime can be changed using another (more suitable in temperature) program

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