Dmitro2014
And how to properly install this frying pan on the stove, can you just put it on comfortably?
Dmitro2014
I bought a stainless steel at once, I didn’t scruff, because the more expensive the better. Got it, an ideal thing, there is nothing to break, beautiful, eternal. Buy another second, diagonally on the stove 2 will immediately become. In one vegetables, in the second meat.
I do not want to cook in a tier, one will drain onto the other.
Dmitro2014
The frying pan came straight away with the recipe book, okay.
set
Quote: Irina Sht.

And where to get the second lattice?

But I bought the second lattice in "Treshka", though without a hole inside, but I just think not to put food in the center, and I think everything will work out!
francevna
Quote: Dmitro2014

... Buy another second, diagonally on the stove 2 will immediately become. In one vegetables, in the second meat.
Congratulations on your purchase! Let him please with delicious dishes. I think that one frying pan is enough in the house.
francevna
Sveta, and the grill in the center will not burn out?
set
Quote: francevna

Sveta, and the grill in the center will not burn out?
Well, firstly, it is placed higher, it does not bake in the same way as below, so if it turns black, I think it will not pericalate. And if anything, maybe come up with something out of foil according to this principle https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/ga...serpics/67518/image~0.jpg
Dmitro2014
And how to cook fried and baked potatoes in it, and how long?
Dmitro2014
Actually, the grill, in my opinion, is not eternal, and spare ones do not sell yet, or just buy a new frying pan.
Taia
Quote: Dmitro2014

Actually, the grill, in my opinion, is not eternal, and spare ones do not sell yet, or just buy a new frying pan.

Why do you think so? Nothing is done with the lattice, I have been using it for a long time. But the pan itself is getting ready for the exit, all the non-stick coating is peeled off.
Dmitro2014
Yes, I have a stainless steel frying pan, I think it will last for a very long time. But the grill is such that it can peel off, and in general, it is not a serious thing to touch. But what about the question, are you sure that the lattice is an eternal thing?
Kornienko
spare grilles have been selling here for a long time 🔗
mur_myau
Quote: Kornienko

spare grilles have been selling here for a long time 🔗
Are they only suitable for enamel pans or any of the available ones?
Is the diameter suitable for steel?
Kornienko
Quote: mur_myau

Are they only suitable for enamel pans or any of the available ones?
Is the diameter suitable for steel?

suitable for enameled production in romania and china, for pans with other coatings you should try
Dmitro2014
There is a skewer for this frying pan on that site, I will take it. Although maybe you can do it yourself ...
mur_myau
Do not judge harshly if it already happened.
Turbo frying pan.
The principle is the same as in the gas grill.
I doubt the fastening of the handle, the rest is interesting. Especially small size (compared to gas grill) and the ability to see how the food is being cooked.
Who used it? Ay !!!
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mur_myau
Quote: Kornienko

suitable for enameled production in romania and china, for pans with other coatings you should try
Thank you! I will take it.
Then I will adapt the expander for the airfryer, as advised here, and I will cook 2 levels.
Kornienko

had the opportunity to try cooking. the principle of cooking is completely different from the jelly in the gas grill pan. in this frying pan, dishes are stewed more. gas is baked in a grill pan.
we even have it on sale, though with a Teflon coating and a closed lid
Vredina_07
Attention!

Low-quality gas grill pans of poor quality made in China and Taiwan appeared on the Ukrainian market.This product was imported to Ukraine illegally and does not have any certificates of quality and hygienic conclusions that this product meets all the requirements of the current sanitary legislation. It is not known what steel the frying pan is made of and what impurities are in the enamel that the frying pan is covered with.

Many unscrupulous sellers who sell frying pans made in China and Taiwan at a low price, post on their website a Romanian frying pan or a photo of a box in which a Romanian frying pan is sold, and send people a Chinese frying pan of poor quality, not only with an enamel coating, but also with a type of "ceramic "And type" marble "coating, and on the site indicate that it was produced in Romania.
If Chinese pans were sold and were of good quality, they would not be passed off as Romanian.
Those who prefer a proven, certified product of European origin, rather than cheap China of unknown quality, ask the sellers of Grill-Gas pans that are made in Romania, in a factory box.

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Chinese Grill Gas

On the back of the box, the Chinese have indicated the Romanian flag to make consumers think it is produced in Romania !!!

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Vredina_07
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mur_myau
Judging by the box and grill, I have a fake.
Judging by the spotted enamel - the original.
And how to be here?

So far, there are no complaints about using.
Ledka
Quote: mur_myau

Judging by the box and grill, I have a fake.
Judging by the spotted enamel - the original.
And how to be here?

So far, there are no complaints about using.
Everything looks like the original (both the frying pan and the pen). But there was no box at all. Only a colored tab and cellophane.
Kornienko
Quote: mur_myau

Judging by the box and grill, I have a fake.
Judging by the spotted enamel - the original.
And how to be here?

So far, there are no complaints about using.

a Chinese lid can be speckled, and the bottom is plain. the main thing is that it is enameled and will not peel off after a month of use
Kornienko
Quote: Ledka

Everything looks like the original (both the frying pan and the pen). But there was no box at all. Only a colored tab and cellophane.

frying pans come in gift boxes or simply wrapped in plastic. both options are factory, the difference is only in price
Vredina_07
Quote: mur_myau

Judging by the box and grill, I have a fake.
Judging by the spotted enamel - the original.
And how to be here?

So far, there are no complaints about using.
This is for Ukraine, Russia has another packaging
mur_myau
Quote: Kornienko
a Chinese lid can be speckled, and the bottom is plain.
She's all speckled.

Quote: Vredina_07
This is for Ukraine, Russia has another packaging
And what should be in Russia? so, for reliability.
And the lattice still confuses me.
tat-63
Lena, if it's all speckled then this is Romania
Kira
Quote: Vredina_07
... ask the sellers of Grill-Gas pans that are made in Romania, in a factory box.
Quote: mur_myau
This is for Ukraine, Russia has another packaging
Excuse me, does the manufacturer in Romania stamp packaging separately for Ukraine, Russia, Belarus and other countries?
which one did I buy?) there is a speck, a colored tab and cellophane - it seems that the grid is correct, but I did not observe a sticker with a batch number, but the box is a "fake". I used it 5-7 times, it seems, the specks did not disappear and nothing peeled off. Doubts prevail)
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Kornienko
Quote: Kira

Excuse me, does the manufacturer in Romania stamp packaging separately for Ukraine, Russia, Belarus and other countries?
which one did I buy?) there is a speck, a colored tab and cellophane - it seems that the grid is correct, but I did not observe a sticker with a batch number, but the box is a "fake". I used it 5-7 times, it seems, the specks did not disappear and nothing peeled off. Doubts prevail)
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you have a real Romanian :)
Kornienko
Quote: mur_myau

She's all speckled.
And what should be in Russia? so, for reliability.
And the lattice still confuses me.

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this one is made in romanian for Russia
Kornienko
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the girls made this comparison on purpose to clearly show the differences.
it is possible that the grid may be different. grills differ in weight. Romanian is heavier by 200 gr
The Chinese make the rolled edge because they cover the pan with enamel using the spraying technique (the enamel is applied with a spray gun), the Romanians enamel it using the dipping technique (dipped into the enamelled bathroom, which explains the dots)

Chinese frying pan is produced in this form

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Romanian frying pan is produced in this form

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boxes are produced separately at our request
Taia
Here is my Taiwan frying pan. Became this after rare use after 3 months.

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Taia
Quote: amateur

there stainless steel 1500 some other 1100 production in Taiwan. Tell me and you can use it
I'm sitting here and thinking what I want to do a frying pan with no strength ...
Look in the topic, there have been positive reviews here recently about stainless steel pans and they seem to be Taiwanese.
SilverLily
Quote: amateur

I'm sitting here and thinking what I want to do a frying pan with no strength ...
So I wanted to say: "Read the topic."
We have already written and shown photographs more than once. She is also in stainless steel Africa Taiwan stainless steel. What will change in it from what language the workers spoke during its production?
Irina Sht.
I have a stainless steel Taiwan. I'm glad.
amateur goth
why do they remove some messages? I wrote in the afternoon why they were deleted7
Chef
amateur goth, carefully read the Forum Rules, I have a link to them in my signature.
I'm talking about messages like this, for example:

Quote: amateur
can anyone have a SATURN tell me .............. ........................ .. Please thanks

Edems
Today I received a stainless steel grill gas pan. I checked it with a magnet, it does not stick, it slips. It means really stainless steel. I bought 260 UAH in the outlet + 35 delivery. Tried to cook chicken (legs, thighs and wings). Marinated for half an hour in Torchin plum chicken marinade. I cooked for 1 hour. I love fried food for sure. The taste is amazing. Toasted crust, barbecue smell, juicy. The bottom is not very dirty. But the grill is fried. I recommend taking a stainless steel.
amateur goth
We have a Taiwan stainless steel for 1500 today or Romanian in a month for 1400. I have a long wait for a month. how to be and what to do.
Irina Sht.
amateur goth, read page 72 of this topic.
Taia
Quote: amateur
We have taiwan stainless steel for 1500 today

So buy a stainless steel!
Taia
Quote: Edems
But the grill is fried.

I soak it in the sink with detergent. Then, after a while, it is washed off once.
amateur goth
Quote: Taia


So buy a stainless steel!
I will be able to try today and Romanian is waiting for a month. but we need everything quickly. bring to try. I think where to start? The most important thing is to explain to my husband that it is delicious. what to cook? which was really tasty. My husband eats only MEAT ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Edems
About the enamel coating.
1. The fact is that I had the experience when I put the enamel mug on the fire for seconds - so that it becomes dry - it bummed, the enamel flew apart and burst. It's good that I didn't get anywhere. In theory, the pan is also mostly empty without liquid and subject to strong heating (including the lid). I'm not sure if she will behave the same way.
2. Another argument is not in favor of enamel coating. The quality (namely, the porosity) of the enamel determines whether the metal will penetrate through the enamel and, together with the condensate, get into food.
3. And finally, shock resistance. I use enameled dishes all the time. But in 2 years the side hit, then the lid in the sink is also a chip of enamel. A piece of enamel can also get into food. Moreover, the coating of the pan is dark, you will not immediately notice.
4. And on account of the fact that the Internet is teeming with information that the Romanian version is better than the Taiwanese one. So I realized for myself that who was the first to praise their products and who was the first to produce - could, unfortunately, find only such a way of advertising - how to find fault with another manufacturer.
These are my personal thoughts. I just read the forum, looked through the suppliers, as well as comparative information and, as a reasonable person, made conclusions. Another point - the Romanian manufacturer is actually inferior to the Taiwanese-narrow assortment. Thus, it is losing its leading position in sales. So draw your conclusions.Articles about their good quality are written very much in Delitanian.
This is not an advertisement, just the thoughts of a stainless steel user. For advertising, you know yourself, unfortunately no one pays me extra))).
Kornienko
Quote: Edems

About the enamel coating.
1. The fact is that I had the experience when I put the enamel mug on the fire for seconds - so that it becomes dry - it bummed, the enamel flew apart and burst. It's good that I didn't get anywhere. In theory, the pan is also mostly empty without liquid and subject to strong heating (including the lid). I'm not sure if she will behave the same way.
2. Another argument is not in favor of enamel coating. The quality (namely, the porosity) of the enamel determines whether the metal will penetrate through the enamel and, together with the condensate, get into food.
3. And finally, shock resistance. I use enameled dishes all the time. But in 2 years the side hit, then the lid in the sink is also a chip of enamel. A piece of enamel can also get into food. Moreover, the coating of the pan is dark, you will not immediately notice.
4. And on account of the fact that the Internet is teeming with information that the Romanian version is better than the Taiwanese one. So I realized for myself that who was the first to praise their products and who was the first to produce - could, unfortunately, find only such a way of advertising - how to find fault with another manufacturer.
These are my personal thoughts. I just read the forum, looked through the suppliers, as well as comparative information and, as a reasonable person, made conclusions. Another point - the Romanian manufacturer is actually inferior to the Taiwanese-narrow assortment. Thus, it is losing its leading position in sales. So draw your conclusions. Articles about their good quality are written very much in Delitanian.
This is not an advertisement, just the thoughts of a stainless steel user. For advertising, you know yourself, unfortunately no one pays me extra))).
1. the comparison is not good. try putting an empty stainless steel saucepan on the fire and see what happens.
as the fire touched the bottom of the mug. does not touch the bottom of the pan. i.e. there is no direct heating of the surface.
frying pans with enamel coating on the Russian market for more than 4 years and so far there is not a single complaint about cracked enamel or any other disadvantages. In the lower pan of the pan there are holes that allow excess heat to escape and the pan does not heat up to a temperature at which the enamel may crack. Metal cannot penetrate food in any way through the enamel coating, since the technology of applying the enamel coating is designed to protect ferrous metals (carbon steel) from corrosion and to reduce the cost of production for goods with an enamel coating.

2. a frying pan of Romanian production has two layers of enamel coating applied by dipping method - the base is dipped into a bathroom with enamel, then dried and fired in ovens at a temperature of 700-900 degrees, which allows using the dishes over an open fire.
spraying enamel is cheaper, it is called enamel paint, which can affect the formation of cracks and chips upon impact. if a chip is formed, then it is very clearly visible in spite of the dark color.

3. Taiwan does not produce pans with enamel coating because it could not agree with the Romanians to allow them to make copies, so Taiwan produces pans of different types looking for more or less resistant coatings. The Chinese managed to come to an agreement with the Romanians and produce frying pans with a single-layer enamel coating, even the Chinese practically abandoned the production of pans with other coatings. Heat-resistant, ceramic, marble coating will peel off over time. Stainless steel turns yellow and how it will behave in the future is not known, since the stainless steel market is only about six months.
According to one of the old recipes, enamel is prepared from one part of quartz sand, one part of boric acid and two parts of red lead. To give color, pigments are added: cobalt oxide (blue-black), cadmium oxide (red), copper oxide (green).

4, Romanians do not chase an assortment, they produce quality goods, and do not waste money on the invention of the wheel
Vredina_07
Quote: Kornienko


1. the comparison is not good. try putting an empty stainless steel saucepan on the fire and see what happens.
as the fire touched the bottom of the mug. does not touch the bottom of the pan. i.e. there is no direct heating of the surface.
frying pans with enamel coating on the Russian market for more than 4 years and so far there is not a single complaint about cracked enamel or any other disadvantages. In the lower pan of the pan there are holes that allow excess heat to escape and the pan does not heat up to a temperature at which the enamel may crack. Metal cannot penetrate food in any way through the enamel coating, since the technology of applying the enamel coating is designed to protect ferrous metals (carbon steel) from corrosion and to reduce the cost of production for goods with an enamel coating.

2. a frying pan of Romanian production has two layers of enamel coating applied by dipping method - the base is dipped into a bathroom with enamel, then dried and fired in ovens at a temperature of 700-900 degrees, which allows using the dishes over an open fire.
spraying enamel is cheaper, it is called enamel paint, which can affect the formation of cracks and chips upon impact. if a chip is formed, then it is very clearly visible in spite of the dark color.

3. Taiwan does not produce pans with enamel coating because it could not agree with the Romanians to allow them to make copies, so Taiwan produces pans of different types looking for more or less resistant coatings. The Chinese managed to come to an agreement with the Romanians and produce frying pans with a single-layer enamel coating, even the Chinese practically abandoned the production of pans with other coatings. Heat-resistant, ceramic, marble coating will peel off over time. Stainless steel turns yellow and how it will behave in the future is not known, since the stainless steel market is only about six months.
According to one of the old recipes, enamel is prepared from one part of quartz sand, one part of boric acid and two parts of red lead. To give color, pigments are added: cobalt oxide (blue-black), cadmium oxide (red), copper oxide (green).

4, Romanians do not chase an assortment, they produce quality goods, and do not waste money on the invention of the wheel
I support!
And on stainless steel it is not yet known whether it is food grade or technical stainless steel, since there are no certificates and hygienic conclusions for them ((((
Edems
Quote: Kornienko
According to one of the old recipes, enamel is prepared from one part of quartz sand, one part of boric acid and two parts of red lead. To give color, pigments are added: cobalt oxide (blue-black), cadmium oxide (red), copper oxide (green).
Does the Romanian frying pan comply with Russian GOST? And where is it indicated? According to this GOST, the dishes inside can be covered with enamel of strictly defined colors, and the addition of other coloring additives, namely those that you indicate:
Quote: Kornienko
To give color, pigments are added: cobalt oxide (blue-black), cadmium oxide (red), copper oxide (green).
contain a large amount of harmful metals, and when they come into contact with food and get hot, they get into food and lead to negative consequences for life. That is, I am now eating banal truths about enameled dishes in general. And you just pointed out the content of harmful compounds and metals in Romanian enamel. The red pigment indicated by you in the composition of the product is especially dangerous.
And yet, every housewife can figure out in her mind what kind of pans she has in her kitchen, more enameled or still made of stainless steel.
Cookware from stainless steel, "stainless steel" in everyday life, ideal.
Kalmykova
So in this frying pan, the products do not touch the enamel surfaces, but only come into contact with stainless steel.
Kornienko
Quote: Edems

Does the Romanian frying pan comply with Russian GOST? And where is it indicated? According to this GOST, the dishes inside can be covered with enamel of strictly defined colors, and the addition of other coloring additives, namely those that you indicate: contain a large amount of harmful metals, and when they come into contact with food and heat up, they get into food and lead to negative consequences for life. That is, I am now eating banal truths about enameled dishes in general. And you just pointed out the content of harmful compounds and metals in Romanian enamel. The red pigment indicated by you in the composition of the product is especially dangerous.
And yet, every housewife can figure out in her mind what kind of pans she has in her kitchen, more enameled or still made of stainless steel.
Cookware from stainless steel, "stainless steel" in everyday life, ideal.
yes Romanian frying pan complies with GOST.
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about the color - I did not point out the presence of harmful substances in Romanian pans, I pointed out that these substances are added to the enamel to change the color, read carefully
Romanian grills are produced only according to technology and their color is only dark brown speckled, as it should be. but the Chinese add impurities for the color of the frying pan in red and blue.

food is placed on a stainless steel grid. and the fact that there are more stainless steel dishes in the kitchen is because it is easier to care for them.

this is a composition of stainless steel in which there are harmful substances for the human body, which are released when heated, over time you wear off, or rather, what is erased is eaten by a person
Carbon (C),% - 0.05
Manganese (Mn),% - 1.30
Phosphorus (P),% - 0.029 - Lethal dose of white phosphorus - 50-150 mg
Sulfur (S),% - 0.006
Chromium (Cr). % - 18.6 - Chromium is quite toxic, chromium metal dust irritates lung tissue, Chromium (VI) compounds lead to various human diseases, including oncological
Nickel (Ni),% - 8.8 - Toxic dose for humans - 50 mg
Molybdenum (Mo),% - 0.19
Silicon (Si),% - 0.55
Vanadium (V),% - 0.09 - Toxic dose for humans 0.25 mg, lethal dose - 2-4 mg.
Copper (Cu). % - 0.09
Titanium (Ti),% - <0.01
But you will not give up stainless steel dishes because of such trifles, because until today you did not even know what is included in stainless steel dishes and do not know how to care for them so that these harmful substances enter the body as little as possible person. because when selling such dishes, not a single seller explains how to care for the dishes.
and the whole surbor due to the fact that the seller of a stainless steel frying pan needs to sell his product and needs to omit the competitor's product. stainless steel sellers do not provide a certificate of conformity to GOST, why?
olaola1
And I have a black speckled frying pan. When I bought it, I carefully studied the label - the pan seems to be Romanian. And you write that it is dark brown.

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