Furniture for kitchen

In these apartments - and I saw more than a dozen of them and did repairs in two of them - there will be no other options. Sliding wardrobe full on the wall 361cm ... We are talking about a plan without moving the entrance to the living room.

Svetlana, well, you go to the same place as everyone else - without looking at the plan to make any proposals.

Did you carefully look at the dimensions of the wall in which the "door to the living room" is located?
171.5 cm the size of the outer wall, in which, according to the developer's plan, the door to the room is located. From the side of the room, accordingly, this length is less than the thickness of the partition.
We do not know the thickness of the partitions; it is not indicated on the plans. Let's say a wall of blocks 10 cm thick.
That leaves 161.5. We put 12 cm on the edge from the side of the corridor. 149.6.
Another 90 cm for the opening under 80-. th door. Remains 59.5.
Another 3 centimeters per platband, which closes the foam seam between the cabinet and the door.
56.5 in the remainder.
And I still did not count the plaster of the wall behind the cabinet)))) and did not count the small indent from the cabinet to the casing, so that the cabinet is not close to the casing, and did not put anything at all on the switch near the door.

So what is the useful depth of the wardrobe, taking into account the width of the rails?

The switch should be on the right, not behind the door. How else to get there in the dark?
The door can be 700 - normal width. And a closet all over the wall.

Yeah, of course - you have to complicate your life and empty the wallet at the same time
All my life, clothes somehow hung in wardrobes, the depth of which, according to Soviet standards, was 500 mm. A compartment with a depth of 600 mm has about the same inside. If it is a pity to "shork" expensive products such as fur coats and sheepskin coats, then normally they should be kept in covers.
In addition, clothes become more compact in the case.


For good reason, furniture should be brought in disassembled and assembled in the room. I have a wardrobe 2500x2300x600 in my bedroom, what kind of door do I need to have to bring it in? They assembled the case on the bedroom floor, then gently and smoothly raised it so as not to touch the stretch ceiling. Then the facades were installed. It is about 300 mm from wall to wall and to the ceiling.
Furniture is not a refrigerator, it can always be disassembled and reassembled.
The main thing is that inseparable elements, such as a mattress, non-separable armchairs, benches, etc., go through the door.

Well, of course, no one brings in the wardrobes entirely, it's obvious. In my hall, a wardrobe is generally 2900x2400x600; a joiner made and assembled it in an empty apartment.

The switch in the bedroom turned out to be slightly outside the door, then the mother-in-law commanded and so decided. To find him in the dark, we installed an illuminated switch. At the same time, they put them everywhere, very convenient!

The switch should be on the right, not behind the door. How else to get there in the dark?

That is, the direction of opening the door will be on the wardrobe, and so that it does not crap the handle on it, it will be necessary to put a door stop and the door handle will stick out for life on the way to the room?

For good reason, furniture should be brought in disassembled and assembled in the room.

All sliding wardrobes are sold unassembled. And the kitchens too ...

I don't want Patchouli to paint the kitchen door in an ugly way. New apartment, Litny house, free planning, and suddenly - the door was installed as in some old small apartment.
Patchouli has, however, not so much space there either. But still better "workers" Stalin and Khrushchev will be.

My "Ylitny" house is an ordinary cheloveinik in 6 sections (ceremonial).
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My windows are above the arch on the 8th floor, southwest. Sun after 2 pm to 5 pm.
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People are already living in two of the front ones, in two they are doing repairs and in two they are waiting. Associated with a change in the developer.

The plan is correct where the box 113 + the partition 98 + the doorway 80 + the partition 39.
And the second one I depicted as another draftsman in order to calculate the corridors and there I did not figure out how to put down the dimensions. And the mouse turns out to be cool, a lot, in the other direction - a little.

Tomorrow I will go and receive a certificate with full calculation after measurements of the BTI.
The husband already says that it was necessary to buy a secondary housing. Although both the son and he were behind the new building. After the death of my father, I sold the dormitory, and with the addition it turned out what happened. I went and looked at the secondary housing near our apartment, but you can't quite guess with the heating there. Everyone says it's warm, but here if the heating is supplied from above, then from below, while it heats the apartments (and some have balconies) from the 16th floor to the bottom, then below people complain that in winter it happens at 13 degrees. Or vice versa. We have the 4th floor, I also don't know what a hot battery is in winter. But there is no less than 17 degrees, but even at 20 in winter I feel cool. And here it seems like its own heating point, maybe it will be warm.

Maybe everything that concerns not kitchen furniture, but ideas for my apartment as a whole, can be transferred to a repair theme? How do you do it? But for myself, I re-read all the information and motto. I am very grateful to everyone. I am writing from my phone so far, which is not very convenient. The computer is still busy.

In my bedroom like this

But it is already longer.
Here, the wall is only 3150 mm, so the chest of drawers will not fit. But he is not needed. Because everything will fit in a wardrobe with a length of about 3500. In general, I would have made not just a wardrobe, but a wall wardrobe, as already shown 🔗

Vicki, thanks, I'll try to calculate the chair instead of the chest of drawers. And what about the TV from the front door and the bird's corner in the corner?

The chair will also not work if the bed is two.
Bed 1400-1600, wardrobe 600, that's 2000-2200. Remains about 1000 for two passes of 500. One to approach the bed from the second side, the second to approach the closet.
The TV can be directly opposite the bed, there is a good gap - about one and a half meters. You can hang it on the wall, and under it a narrow curbstone for 300. Or just put a TV on it

You just need to measure the height in order to look comfortably from the bed.

The plan is correct where the box 113 + the partition 98 + the doorway 80 + the partition 39.

That is, the total length is 217.
Well, let's count again what happens to the door if you shove it between the refrigerator and the microwave ventilation box.
In fact, you end up with something like installing a microwave oven in a shelf. If you stand facing the microwave - on the left it is closed by a box 42 cm deep, on the right - a refrigerator. Ventilation openings at the microwave oven on the left, from the side of the box. The direction of opening the door from right to left, unfortunately, there is no other direction in nature.
Well, you have something there in the subject turns out, the microwave door will open to the side of the cold.
Let's say you find a microwave oven 45 cm wide. At least some gaps on the sides of a non-built microwave oven should be left, right?
This means that the table under the microwave should be at least 50 cm wide. And even more is better.

Well, let it be a minimum. 50 under microwave. And the 70 refrigerator you chose.
From 217 cm, 97 cm remains for the door with platbands, the plaster of the wall on the left, the plaster of the box, the facing of the box, if you will cover it completely in the visible parts, and the flanging at the door. We will lay 3 cm on the finishing of the box. There are 2 more on the plaster of the wall to the left of the entrance to the kitchen, fig knows how crooked the walls you have there and how much hand-made plasterers will get. Remains 92.
80 opening for the 70th door. 10 flanging. And another 2 cm in the remainder of the casing covering the foam seam of the door frame near the refrigerator, but 4 if the door opens towards the kitchen, and about 5 if the door opens towards the hallway.
Well, in principle, if the door opens towards the kitchen, then maybe everything will fit, only the refrigerator will run over the platband by a couple of centimeters.
If the plasters are smeared on the walls less, it may not run over.
Make the opening under the door a couple of centimeters wider, the flange a couple of centimeters smaller, and after plastering you will catch centimeters with the door installers so that everything more or less stands up.
Although for complete beauty, a small indent from the refrigerator to the platband suggests itself.
You cannot put an oven in a column near the refrigerator with a door with a flanging at least 10 cm, 10 cm is not enough.
In general, in an amicable way, it is better to move the wall between the kitchen and the room a little so that all your Wishlist will stand up normally. And then choose for yourself what microwave you want, and if you want a column with an oven, then you can hit a column with an oven.
Or choose a more modest refrigerator. 60 cm wide. Then everything fits too.

In my bedroom like this

Where is the window in your bedroom? And de the window in Patchouli's room?
Patchula head out the window, batteries and curtains will sleep?
Do you need to take into account curtains when calculating passages and installing furniture by the window?
And yet, but still, what useful depth will the wardrobe turn out to be, in which direction will the door open, how wide it will be, and where will the switch be?

If you feel sorry for "shorking" expensive products such as fur coats and sheepskin coats,

For reference: Fur products (fur coats) are stored lying or at the ready in half. In order not to stretch and thin the shoulder part. In bags or inside out.

[Wiki]

Wiki, and another question. And in the toilet at night on what trajectory will Patchula move?

will the doorknob stick out for life on the way to the room?

you yourself gave the models of the pens

Kitchen furniture # 8440... Why not use one of the options?

Fur products (fur coats) are stored lying or at the ready in half.

And in the season when they are worn?

And in the season when they are worn?

I gave a certificate of proper storage. Further, it's up to you. At least use a rug. After removal, my fur coats are hung on a bar or stair rail

Why not use one of the options?

because in the bedroom, a knocker or a hidden handle will not be very convenient.
They are not a fountain in the kitchen either, but the door there does not open and close so often. Good for the kitchen. In the room, the door will have to be closed more often.
In addition, replacing the handle with the direction of opening the door to the cabinet will in no way eliminate the need to install a door stop. Without a stopper, if not a handle, then the corner of the door will creep around the cabinet.

They are not a fountain in the kitchen either

do you use them? I have a hammer with a lion hanging. Instead of an anvil, I glued a special sticker. Doesn't rumble.
Only the pleasure is not cheap. Sold one at a time.

does not eliminate the need to install a door stop.

nk in general, then each door must be with a limiter. And there, as the owner wants

how much crooked walls you have there and how much hand-made plasterers will come across.

They don't particularly complain about the walls in the house chat.
The works of the craftsmen who made repairs to my friend (they made 3 apartments for her - son, mother and her. Not at the same time, but in turn, and if not very much, then after the first repair I would not have taken them for others) I saw in one the apartment is alive, and in others from the photo.
I have already agreed with them about the repair :-)
After watching, I also wanted walls for painting, they make it so smoothly and beautifully. And the wallpaper, if anything, can be glued later :-)

Wiki, and another question. And in the toilet at night on what trajectory will Patchula move?

I have a bedroom - the farthest room in the house, and there is only one toilet and it is directly from the corridor, that is, at the entrance. After the bedroom I have a hall, then a rather large corridor, then a toilet. Previously, the hall in the apartment was a walk-through and therefore a hall passed from the bedroom, then a rather long corridor, then a turn and a toilet. And now imagine there has never been, so as not to run
There is no night vase and never was.
In general, I almost never go to the toilet at night, sorry for the intimate details.In addition, half of the country in our country generally go to the street toilet. And already in a warm apartment ... that's a problem for me too

Fur products (fur coats) are stored lying or at the ready in half. In order not to stretch and thin the shoulder part. In bags or inside out.

I don't have such expensive fur coats that I bother storing them.
Whoever has such fur coats, so they probably have dressing rooms the size of my house

do you use them?

Have you tried reading the posts you link to until the end?
Try it and you won't have to ask ridiculous questions.

Only the pleasure is not cheap. Sold one at a time.

Yes, it is sold one at a time, but for the price of 2 door knockers, it can be quite comparable to regular door handles from the same series.

My "Ylitny" house is an ordinary cheloveinik in 6 sections (front).

Do you have a floor plan? How is the layout of the floor, does not allow something to be grabbed from the inter-apartment hall in one person to your apartment?

so I bother storing them

yes this is the business of each owner. You can simply hang it over the back of a chair so that it doesn't stretch out.

Do you have a floor plan? How is the layout of the floor, does not allow something to be grabbed from the inter-apartment hall in one person to your apartment?

About grabbing it, I myself do not mind :-)
And I would like to own it alone :-). I have N 363, and according to the plan there is a neighbor from 362. In the house chat I read that many people buy apartments for rent, and the easier it is, the better.
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We now have such warm winters and transport problems are acute that fur coats have to be worn only out of force or just walk along the boulevard

On the advice of experienced. "Super convenient" corner wardrobe in the hallway.


In total, instead of a 110 cm compartment with hangers with good access to each item and shelf, the compartment with a hanger is 20 cm shorter, with good access to about 60 cm of the hanger, the shelf above the hangers is the same ..
Under a hanger with a seat, plastering the walls behind the cabinet and finishing the slopes of the entrance door instead of 80 cm - 65.
If, specifically, in the Patchouli layout, we compare a 90x90 corner symmetrical wardrobe with a meter-long wardrobe with book doors, which I wrote about in one of the previous messages, then a cabinet with book doors eats about the same amount of space (rectangle 10085 with open doors), but this will provide better access to shelves and racks.
I have corner cabinets. There is a symmetrical, there is a small asymmetrical 93x68. Small even more or less, but it has a very small compartment with hangers - 68 cm, so that for two all outerwear does not fit, only for the current weather. And the rest has to be stored in closets in the room, and our clothes periodically migrate from closet to room to closet in the hallway and back.
And I don't really like the big one because of the big dead angle. I don't have things hanging in that corner at all. There is a warehouse of unused junk. Two mats, rolled up in a roll, stand there, a mattress from the bed, some furniture parts, remnants of laminate in case of need for local repair. In short, I have a junk for long cars there, because the layout of the apartment does not include and it is impossible to make a pantry.
In general, I warn you that it is actually not very convenient, but still the storage option, when the four-thread is better, the straight line does not fit.
With a small one I will still draw, such as I have in the hallway now. But with him, too, the passage to the bathroom is too narrow.

Anchic, and you did not answer my question.
You changed your mind about making a bevel in the kitchen, and with your husband decided to put a column with an oven at the door to the kitchen. But there, according to the dimensions that you gave, a very small distance is obtained between the oven and the "main" line of the headset.
If memory serves, you have 1.55 meters from the corner to the door frame, excluding finishing.
0.6 meters depth of the "main" line + 0.6 column with the oven, remains 0.35 for the rough finish and the module between the oven and the "main" line.
Not enough ...Are you going to be a shaman with a door so that you can make a bigger distance between the oven and the sink?

No, we will not shaman with the door. There will simply be a non-standard locker, one piece is it possible? Maybe it's not quite standard yet at the window. We go there (between the oven and the sink) a 35cm cabinet - it would be perfect. But a few cm on the wall will go away, so it will be a little narrower, I hope it will work out 30cm. There will be a small box on top and a swing door below, because there will be a bucket or some other suitable container for dry waste. We now have it just about this place, only without a cabinet - under the shelf.

"Super convenient" corner wardrobe in the hallway

For wet things, you will need a hanger next to the door. You can't hang wet in a cupboard.
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is this a bathroom? or kitchen? pantry. Whatever it is, it is better to open the door to the closet. Trust me. and the place is a little, but will appear.

And I strongly doubt that in a hallway of this size, a corner cabinet with a straight front will not create cramped cornering. Although I counted 104 cm diagonally there.
Well, if I take a closet with book doors, then the diagonal will turn out to be even larger.
It is better to check this in place on a model made of cardboard in full growth.

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is this a bathroom?

She is the most.

For wet things, you will need a hanger next to the door. You can't hang wet in a cupboard.

Lelka, wrote about this already in previous messages. That you need some kind of hanger and at least one seat. I'll tell you more, Patchouli has in his PM a version of a suitable hanger made of moisture-resistant material. Shelezyaka chrome-plated with a shelf for hats, similar in design to the IKEA portis, only small and sturdier.
IKEA portis looks like this:

Shelezyaka painted. You can hang things on a hook, or you can leave them on hangers to dry before putting them in the closet. The hooks move, you can move them in different ways, as it is more convenient.
And the hat shelf is nice, ventilated. Put a wet scarf, hat, hat - they dry there on all sides. And not in a puddle of leaks from them, as on hangers with blank shelves made of chipboard or wood.

there is an option in PM

I do not eavesdrop on whispers

She is the most.

mentally walk down the hallway. You rest your forehead against the open door




You also need to look at how the path is laid in the apartment.

And what, 104 cm passage in the hallway 155 cm wide is not enough? Well ...
And this corner with an ordinary rectangular cabinet is dead in any case. And with an angular dead corner, it is used as a storage for the necessary things, and not necessarily skis, linoleum, wallpaper, pressure cookers, dryers. A simple box of shoes, clothes. The people from whom I rent an apartment had clothes hanging on their hangers and lying in boxes. The son-in-law and daughter have such a closet in the hall, like a continuation of the mini-wall. That's really there a lot of intermeddle. Well, this is a meter-long cabinet with hangers and with a compartment on the side and a shelf at the bottom.

[Anchic]

I do not eavesdrop on whispers

So about a seat with a hanger in an open forum it was several times. In private, only a specific option.

And what, 104 cm passage in the hallway 155 cm wide is not enough?

104 - in one place diagonally. I can count 50 when driving in a straight line.
In other versions, I indicated the width of the passage when driving in a straight line. In this - no. Too pathetic, 50 cm.

And the entrance hall is not 155 wide. But the seasoned should not look into the plans. ))))

mentally walk down the hallway. You rest your forehead against the open door

Layout option from the developer without changes.
Many are very worried that Patchula will begin to rebuild something in his apartment.

No, we will not shaman with the door. There will simply be a non-standard locker, one piece is it possible? Maybe it's not quite standard yet at the window. We go there (between the oven and the sink) a 35cm cabinet - it would be perfect. But a few cm on the wall will go away, so it will be a little narrower, I hope it will work out 30cm.There will be a small box on top and a swing door below, because there will be a bucket or some other suitable container for dry waste. We now have it just about this place, only without a cabinet - under the shelf.

I already wrote. In Merlin there are facades of 33 cm, going to their corner shelves. They were solid, dark and light, in a classic style. Now I don’t know how.
This is one of those "Lego" constructors that I know. And some private shop can cut you this size. Facade 35 is not common in nature.

And I also wrote to you that in nature there are false strips for interior doors. They are not intended to be installed as platbands. But in kitchens, when centimeters are not enough, or the doorway is initially moronic, 80 cm without flanges and this cannot be changed in any way, they are used instead of door trims. When ordering doors to our other apartment with such a filthy opening, the doors offered me such a solution. True, there is such an opening that even the feigned strips would not fit (the feigned strip has a length of 200-210 and a width of 3-4 cm, the strip is used for double doors, closes the gap between the doors when closing).
Unlike the door casing, the plank is not set on nails without a head, as in a simple molding, and is not inserted into the groove, as in a telescopic molding, but simply glued to the box and the assembly seam.

About grabbing it, I myself do not mind :-)
And I would like to own it alone :-). I have N 363, and according to the plan there is a neighbor from 362. In the house chat I read that many people buy apartments for rent, and the easier it is, the better.
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Well, it's not very clear here what the size of the cubicle in which your apartment and the apartment of a neighbor from a one-room apartment are located. In one person, judging by this plan, nothing can be taken from the hallway between apartments. At two, on you and a neighbor who has the same difficult L-shaped corridor, maybe.
But in order to say something for sure, you need to understand the size of the inter-apartment hall in your wing.

I'm all thinking about the bathroom. On this floor plan I don't understand a bit. Is there another section to the right, or does the bathroom run along the outer wall of the house? What's behind the bathroom wall? Another apartment? Street? Access staircase?



Anchic, here, the plank is feigned in OBI:
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3 cm wide, 207 cm long. It may help to add a few centimeters to the length of the pier.
They come to all doors. Only she may not completely close the assembly seam; you will have to spoil with the finish near the door. In bathrooms, it can also sometimes help out when a normal platband does not fit, for example, between a box and a bathroom.

I'm all thinking about the bathroom. On this floor plan I don't understand a bit. Is there another section to the right, or does the bathroom run along the outer wall of the house? What's behind the bathroom wall? Another apartment? Street? Access staircase?

There is another apartment behind the wall of the bathroom.

There is another apartment behind the wall of the bathroom.

Okay. And then I already tensed, whether it is necessary to insulate the wall of the bathroom and lay on this place in the calculations.
Lick your lips on a page from an old catalog of a Russian furniture factory. From your computer, see the picture in full size.

Not Philippe Grandi, but furniture with curved facades was made similar in size.
And they had different asymmetric corner cabinets in the model range, moving from one depth to another, and different end radius columns and modules for a smooth transition from one depth to another.
The factory, from the catalog of which the page, I do not know whether it is alive now or not, has been buying furniture from them for a long time. Perhaps not. Because they did not make curved facades themselves, they were supplied from Germany, there was a joint production. Even if the factory is still alive, it is still in Russia, somewhere near Ulyanovsk, you are unlikely to order furniture from them.
A wardrobe that would more or less fit the size of your hallway is framed in red.
It is asymmetrical with two hinged facades, in it the dead corner should be better than in a symmetrical one, more accessible and better visible. And at the turn, he would eat less space due to the curvature. And after turning, I would go just to the calculated small depth.
True, there is already catastrophically little space for an open hanger and seat with such a cabinet, as well as with a symmetrical one. It will be hard for you to find a good hanger in a very small size. I went through such a search, I know that it is very difficult to find something less than 80 cm wide, from ugly shells that are not afraid of moisture, so that you can hang clothes on hangers freely, and so that it is inexpensive. This is what IKEA does. And the Germans and the Balts can be found for the Jews, but they are more expensive than the Chinese, pretending to be Swedes.
The blue daw in the picture marks the model I am using. It could also fit, but it has a very small compartment with hangers, only 68 cm wide. It is not enough for two, only for the current weather it will be possible to place clothes. And for the rest, then you will have to allocate a place in the room.
In my closet in the lower compartment, there is practically no "dead corner". Upstairs, where the shelf is. Photos of curved furniture were in the subject.
Go to furniture centers, look, maybe in your country someone also makes similar furniture.
Well, I have already warned that bent furniture is much more expensive than straight furniture. I was looking for a bent one for the entrance hall and bought it because with furniture with right angles and facades in my L-shaped corridor it turned out to be some kind of angular horror and it would be impossible to rebuild the room somehow differently, so that without angular horror it was impossible. And I do not like to rest against corners in the direction of travel.
I prefer right angles for walls. It is easier in decoration, easier to furnish ...
In furniture, on the contrary, I like all kinds of bevels and radii, especially at the outer corners.



On the extreme, if there is nothing asymmetrical moving from one depth to another, then you can try to buy a symmetrical corner cabinet and hire an assembler who will take it down so that after turning the cabinet is narrow, like furniture for hallways.
Better still, invent a layout in which there is no need to resort to corner cabinets.
It's still okay in the kitchen, the corner can be useful and you can't get away from it. Yes, and the "meter corners" in the catch kitchen furniture are not so great. and terrible.
And for the rest of the apartment it is better to try to do something direct.

And I am in favor of finding a convenient hallway solution! Patchouli will choose what suits her best. I do not impose a corner wardrobe share.

I'm already lost ... was it originally just a corner cabinet?
I would put it straight from wall to wall, and just outside the door - an open hanger with a shoe cabinet. And when you enter - where to throw your bag, keys, umbrella, immediately take off your wet shoes?
There is still too much storage space. ....

[Zeamays]

Zeamays, Sveta, no, the light on the corner cabinet did not converge like a wedge. Replied to what renard wrote. And in general, the topic of kitchen furniture.
And yes, the hanger is open and the bedside table / ottoman right next to the door will not hurt.

Girls, I have a furniture maker. A familiar metro driver who did a part-time job from his hobby. And he makes a mess so that there is a queue for a couple of months ahead. I saw my niece had a semi-built-in wardrobe, which with its side does not reach the wall by 2 !!! cm .. I want to order furniture from him, so that it will certainly be of high quality and so not to get there. Only bent and radius he does not.
Anyone can do it, but he orders the cut at the furniture production.

[Patchouli_ t123]

Patchouli_ t123, Tanya, this is great !!!

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, so I wanted to suggest - can I make a wardrobe to order?
When we were equipping the room for our son, we searched for a table for a very long time and never found it. We needed a simple desk, but 140cm long (I don't seem to remember exactly how many walls there are). And everywhere either 120cm or longer and will not fit. Plus, they were still flimsy - we didn't like the quality. And as a result, we found a company that makes custom-made furniture. In the exhibition hall we saw how they were doing it, we liked it. We ordered a table from them. The only thing, when ordering, you need to look at the drawing.And then they began to draw an additional bar under the table on the front side, such as for rigidity (this is their standard solution). And we have to put our legs somewhere there. And we insisted that special corners can be used for rigidity. And that's all - it turned out so lovely. My husband bought more chipboard in Leroy in the same color and he himself made the shelves above the table in the desired configuration. And we bought a ready-made bedside table where we bought wardrobes. And everything coincided in color, as if they were doing it in one place.

I have an eerie layout in my two-room apartment, a passageway with the letter G. No ready-made furniture fit, that I just did not look. I had to do it to order, but now it is convenient for my Wishlist.

Okay. And then I already tensed, whether it is necessary to insulate the wall of the bathroom and lay on this place in the calculations.

No, there is no extra space :-).
In the bathroom, you still need to shove 2 cars (washer, dryer), washbasin, mirror, toilet, heated towel rail and pentagonal shower cabin 100x100 and also so that there is space :-)

[Patchouli_ t123]

Patchouli_ t123, TatyanaAt the same time, do not forget to determine the place for the sockets with the arrangement of furniture. More than two dozen of them will be needed. There are never too many outlets.
And when planning a bed - correlate it with the location of the air conditioner ...

Girls who want to order a new kitchen, furniture, download the program, preferably with a twist in 3D. Draw, twist, how your idea will look live. The programs are not complicated. I don't know which ones are popular now, 10 years ago I showed the arrangement of furniture and equipment to my customers in terms of autonomy in Pro100. Not always a person can imagine what is on the drawings and how the furniture will stand live, but with 3D it will be at least approximately clear. Programs are not capacious for a computer, not heavy for the user, the main thing is to enter the correct dimensions of the room and furniture.

I'm already lost ... was it originally just a corner cabinet?

Initially, it was said that the corridor narrows after turning, and that a wardrobe or other furniture of variable depth can fit from wall to wall in the hallway.
What a corner pass with any straight furniture. placed along the corridor turns out to be narrow. That the night way from the room to the bathroom turns out to be inconvenient, and that if Patchouli wants to put something deeper and longer in the hallway, then you need to think about redevelopment.



There, after the turn, it will be narrow even with non-compartment cabinets with a depth of 62 cm.
141.5 width of the corridor after turning, excluding finishing, in bare concrete. And besides, at the end of the corridor there is an entrance to the bathroom, into which it is desirable to put the 70th door, so that Patchouli does not have to dismantle the door frame when bringing in or taking out the dryer.
So figure it out. 141.5 width of the corridor. We put furniture with a depth of 62 along the corridor - 79.5 remains. The plaster field will be even smaller. And for a normal installation of a door with a door leaf 70, the cut 79.5 is small.
And if you put a deep and more or less long closet along a relatively long wall to the left of the entrance, then there is little space left for an open hanger and at least one seat, where Patchouli could take off her shoes, undress and hang her outer clothing to dry.

Many thanks to everyone for the tips. All only from the height of use, you can say it's convenient, but it's not convenient and done in vain.
I don't have this experience. Father-in-law in the apartment was not allowed to do anything. From the repair only the doors were changed and the wallpaper was re-pasted. Now I want to do it for myself. This will be my first and last renovation. While there is still gunpowder in the flasks, we go to work in order to be in time before retirement, if the age has not yet changed, I decided to buy an apartment, make it for myself. There will definitely not be money for alterations. So I asked for help.

[Patchouli_ t123]

Patchouli_ t123, when will you start a separate topic about your repair?
Here we are arguing about the furniture in the hallway, but it also depends on the location and size of the door to the bathroom. And I figured out the bathroom only in the layout as a developer.And in general, not everything turns out well in it. There maybe, in order to make it better, the doorway to the bathroom should be moved not towards the room, but towards the neighbor's apartment, and the furniture in the hallway should not be brought to the end of the three-meter wall.

I would put it straight from wall to wall, and just outside the door - an open hanger with a shoe cabinet.

the most practical solution

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, wrote that the wardrobe will be made by the master. As a rule, these masters come with their own vision and their best practices. They insist on their own version and very often they implement it ...