Furniture for kitchen

what mount to buy, otherwise there will be another problem.

Yes, you have to ask. But they didn't put any restrictions on me.

Atas just, such things just never occurred to me

It is strange that they did not come to your masters!

Our kitchen is a little irregular. And we wondered for a long time how to fix the light there. We attached two lamps at once, each in its own conditional rectangle. In the bedroom, even the future wardrobe was going to be taken into account even before the ceilings were pulled. In the hallway and the bath, it's a big trouble, we almost fought.

This option is more for me.
That is, take a normal furniture board, bring it to the desired color with a stain, cover with varnish in 3 passes and cover with a transparent film. Only according to your links, they are all expensive.
In the markets, it is better to look not ready-made, but to cut off the roll as needed. These are silicone films.
There, by the way, and just under the tree happens, without embossing.
Another option: self-adhesive or wood-like wallpaper, and on top there is such a film, that is, quite budget. You can also have your wallpaper on the walls. That is, buy additional. roll and will be enough for 100 years.

It is strange that they did not come to your masters! 🔗

They offered me a chandelier over the table, but I was afraid that it would be off the center of the table. So I thought that I had 2.20 there and any sofa would fit, but today I realized that the cabinet door will open 60cm. And the chandelier should be clearly in the center of the table - you can't move it back and forth. And besides, I do not know how the table will stand: along or across, but it is not square - the center will shift.

Posted Saturday 21 Jan 2017 00:07

That is, take a normal furniture board, bring it to the desired color with a stain, cover with varnish in 3 passes and cover with a transparent film. Only according to your links, they are all expensive.
In the markets, it is better to look not ready-made, but to cut off the roll as needed. These are silicone films.

I don't even know where the construction markets are now, we have been buying everything in hyper for a long time. And in the picture it is not just a furniture board, there the edges are heaped up - this is exactly the table top. In Ikea, I found it for 6tyr, but it will have to be sawed off by size, and I do not know how the sawn-off edge is processed.

[kil]

kil, Irina, have I met gas ovens-separate before ?! I have to look, you puzzled me so. I did not plan to change the stove right away, it has a standard size, I thought then I would just change the old one to a new one. I have to think, I would also take a cooking stove for 2-3 burners, I saw such, very cute. But here you need to seriously think about everything, these cooking stoves need to be embedded in the countertop.

And in the picture it is not just a furniture board, there the edges are heaped up - this is exactly the table top.

And with straight edges there are no countertops?
The picture is just an example of using film.
In the shield, additional edges are not needed, they just need to be cut and sanded exactly.

[Loksa]

LoksaOksana, that's about separate gas cabinets

Incredible transformations and new functions of the modern gas oven

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[Loksa]

Loksa, and how would you like to order the kitchen in the salon for your project, with measurers and individual production of cabinets and drawers? Or buy a ready-made one and fit it into the available space with minimal losses? No matter how much I read, but it feels like the second option, right? And we are agitating you on the basis of the first, when everything is created by a single space.

Now, if the refrigerator is removed to the door instead of a non-existent freezer, the layout will change dramatically. By the way, will the lockers open near the refrigerator?

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 01:39

They offered me a chandelier over the table, but I was afraid that it would be off the center of the table.

After the rough plaster, we cut out the cardboard to fit the equipment and furniture and laid them out on the floor in our free time. So I knew exactly where the center of the table would be. Another thing is that it was not useful to me. )))

You can move templates on paper with a plan.

Can.
But Biju's spatial imagination is in complete trouble ((I definitely had to feel where what and how will be and how I myself will move among all this.

[Lena]

Lena, I wanted to order with measurers, I want hanging cabinets for the ceiling. The refrigerator (freezer) by the window will not stand, they changed their mind, I did not like it there. We put the refrigerator by the door, as in the drawing, furniture with the letter G will go from it to the stove.
The lockers should open - the door is 30 cm wide enough for a full opening.

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 02:01 AM

I want an open space by the horizon window! I was upset, they said that for such a construction of the window sill, supports in the center are needed. I don't see them at all.

The lockers should open - the door is 30 cm wide enough for a full opening.

Where are you going to be? You cannot fit between the refrigerator and the cabinet in 30 cm, and it will be inconvenient to look from the side ... In the corner, then there will be no sink?

Lena, I wanted to order with measurers, I want hanging cabinets for the ceiling.

Then I don't understand you all the more. Why divide the space into a countertop and a window sill, when you can do all this beautifully and conveniently?

Okay, I don't bother anymore, everyone has their own sense of beauty.

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 02:09

I was upset, they said that for such a window sill design, supports in the center are needed

You will have thirty centimeters of the windowsill lying on the wall and holding onto the window! And only a piece to hang. Why support?
Tomorrow I will take a photo of our uninhabited kitchenette from the balcony, there is also a tabletop continuation of the window sill. You'll like it.))

[Lena]

I did not understand about fragmentation: girl-th: do you think I have a bad idea? The window will have an open space. The sink will not be corner, but the corner remains, there will be a regular corner cabinet.

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 02:14 AM

Lena, I'm waiting for a photo, otherwise I ran out of arguments for the family.

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 02:19 AM

Bijou, Lena, between the refrigerator and the cabinet 30 cm is where? I wrote that the window will not have a refrigerator. And the distance there is decent. It is only necessary to take into account the battery, which will not allow opening the door. But I think it will open.

Bijou, Lena, between the refrigerator and the cupboard 30 cm is where?

And where did you tell me that a 30 cm door should be enough? Where will you be at this moment when the doors open?
Even, I feel, it's time to quit with advice, my hairiness is increasing rapidly ...

And the family just needs to pick up a lot of beautiful pictures. And ugly for the company too. So that they realize what the hostess is being pushed into.

But we basically have a different configuration, nothing at all to do with yours. There is just a table-top-window sill and that's it.

[Oksana]

I have never met gas ovens-individual before?

Oksana, I have a separate gas oven Zanussi, I really like it

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 07:47 AM

that for such a window sill design, supports in the center are needed.

there are such supports, I do not remember what they are called, the corners are either attached directly under the countertop or window sill

What are the dimensions of the refrigerator? if you start a corner cabinet from it, it will gobble up half a kitchen ...
and if you put a pencil case between the battery and the refrigerator? then the table top can be extended "from wall to wall", including the window. and as a support, you can make a bar cabinet in the middle for a couple of bottles

What are the dimensions of the refrigerator? if you start a corner cabinet from it, it will gobble up half a kitchen ...

Why gobble up? But at least a minimum of additional space, but if there is a linear kitchen, then it is convenient to stand between the refrigerator and the sink?
Here in IKEA's quick planner

Posted Saturday 21 Jan 2017 2:04 PM

By the way, my sink is located next to the refrigerator in the corner. Quite comfortable.
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[kseniya D]

kseniya D, yet we are all different. So I would be terribly uncomfortable

[Cirre]

Cirre, I need such a chandelier, where did I find it and what is it called.

Tanya, look at the Hoff website, there are many in this style.



Anya, and what facades do you have? Is the material natural or synthetic? With or without tree structure?

[Olga]

Olga, this is all clear. Choosing something in the end is all the same for Oksana. I had a choice between the convenience of washing and the convenience of cooking, that is, the size of the free countertop. I preferred the countertop as there is a dishwasher and the time spent at the sink has been significantly reduced. I have been planning my kitchen for a year. I painted everything in detail, what, where and how I would have it and the initial version in the end, nothing left at all. Therefore, no one, except Oksana, will be able to tell her whether she needs drawers (much more convenient, but more expensive) or whether she will manage with pedestals with shelves. I preferred to make it as comfortable as possible, so that later I would not regret it, but rather enjoy being in the kitchen. After all, the kitchen is set for 10-15 years.

Anya, what kind of facades do you have? Is the material natural or synthetic? With or without tree structure?

Jouravl, if this is a question for me, then I have the top - chipboard vanilla, the bottom - MDF brown, strangely called: Pacific. The table and chairs are generally from my mother's Polish set, they require restoration, but I really like it. We decided to cover it with a dark varnish in order to bring it closer to the color of the facades. But with the countertop it is not yet clear. Bijou ordered oak or wood with carvings. I am still considering 2 options: 1. Ikeev's wooden tabletop for 6 tyr cut to my size (though no one has thought about how to process the edge of the saw cut) and combine with color with chairs + special transparent film with Ali or 2. Put the same film on the existing white countertop, but with a pattern (I looked a lot of pictures, I liked the bamboo). Above, I gave a link to it, you can see. The film turns out to be about 1.5 thousand rubles. Olga says it's expensive, but I haven't found anything cheaper yet.

[Jouravl]

Jouravl, has already gone and looked at the chandelier, it does not suit me. Found in the Hoffa what I need. I am writing from my phone, so no pictures.

[Bijou]

Bijou, Lenchik, let's figure it out in order, 30 cm is my window sill creeps into the kitchen, we all planned to put bedside tables under it and their doors will be 30 cm, no more. If the top is 30, then the doors are 30. Right? And I can easily open them, the window sill is 235 long, right along the window! : Doctor: I’m not a thumbnail, but I think I’ll be able to open it?

The dimensions of the refrigerator are standard 60 by 60, I think (in any case, so they expect) the refrigerator will stand to the left of the door and other furniture will go from it to the stove itself. I draw a diagram, the sink is now in the corner, but it can be easily moved, I read reviews, which is not very convenient, but it doesn't matter to me. As for that very triangle, I don't see any special meaning and connection in it. This is how it turns out: the refrigerator is by the door, there is no freezer by the window.

Posted Saturday 21 Jan 2017 5:13 PM

kseniya D, Ksyusha, how well you did it! MERCY How do you open the bottom cabinet?

Posted Saturday 21 Jan 2017 5:21 PM

Ksenia, you even opened the door in that direction, as it stands. Only between the stove and the window there will be a window sill of 30 cm, and under the window sill there is a bedside table.

[Loksa]

Loksa, FSE, I understood.)) About 30 cm, I understood that the cabinet doors against the wall will open towards the refrigerator. Who will stand at the door. I didn’t think that you would start the kitchen with a corner straight from him, which looks absolutely correct.

I completely forgot that I promised you a photo. Just now I took a quick photo. The kitchen is not only uninhabited - it is, in fact, not even completed.From the balcony next to the bedroom, we’ve got our son, but there is also a terrace on the side, where the door (on the right) goes.

The window is unfinished on the slopes, there are not a single lamp, there are no chairs under the table either ... It was the young lady of her son who grumbled that she had nothing to do when she was our guest, so he assembled her kitchenette. But they did not have time to equip, they fled .. How the pantry is now used.))
So I brushed the cobwebs off the table and forward.

Of course, this is not at all what interests you. There is simply no other option for such premises. And the table-sill doesn't hang down as long as yours. But it is many times wider and generally in an angle, and not on two supports on the sides.

[fugaska]

fugaska, Svetlana, the pencil case will be with a refrigerator. Do I want to put a module there from floor to ceiling? I do not know how it is called correctly. But how do you open the doors?

Posted Saturday 21 Jan 2017 5:27 PM

Lena, yes, it looks like!

Posted Saturday 21 Jan 2017 05:33 PM

Lena, if we assume that instead of your plate there is a mirrored wing of the countertop, instead of a pedestal with three drawers = my battery, then this is it! But my husband said: the countertop will not lie on the radiator, it will lean on the side tables on the sides, AND THIS IS THE CENTER WILL HAVE OUT OF THE CENTER! maybe it can be leaned on some kind of rack (put it on the sides of the battery, or in the center, like on the rugged racks with the emphasis on the countertops-floor, then the puzzle will come together wonderfully.)
You also have half of the countertop hanging. Okay, I'll ask the master about it.
I need to learn how to work in this scheduler.

But how do you open the doors?

open the doors like a refrigerator - from door to window. make a niche on the countertop, household appliances that are not used very often will fit perfectly there.

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, mom had a wooden table top, inexpensive, nothing was done to her! Only I don't really like the color, it looks dark, I want a light one. Her husband put it on his own.

Posted Saturday 21 Jan 2017 05:47 PM

Svetlana, somehow I wanted it (you can stuff the microwave)! The refrigerator is high and next to it it will be nice, and on the other side there is an open tabletop.

Oksana, how are you going to wash the window? Somewhere it flashed that you will have 80 cm to the window? If such a distance, then supports are needed.

Mom had a wooden countertop, inexpensive, nothing was done to her!

Oksana. what tree? Where did you buy it?

But my husband said: the countertop will not lie on the radiator, it will lean on the side tables on the sides, AND THIS IS THE CENTER WILL HAVE OUT OF THE CENTER!

Well, one and a half meters is, of course, decent. If a piece of thin chipboard-shnoy salt is 155 cm long and 30 cm wide.))
But your countertop will be 80 cm = 50 (window sill) +30 (overhang). Imagine a board this wide, firmly in place and anchored to something, with only the edge hanging down. Introduced? )

And in general, I would not steam in advance. When it starts to sag, then one or two legs are bought in a store with fittings and stick into a problematic place.)) Although personally I would be completely sorry for the missing place and I would cram some (even open) lockers under that window sill. At the same time, the props will turn out good from them.))

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal, 80m - this will be a window sill-table top (possibly)
Anya bought in furniture, where kitchens are sold. They happen, ask around, only they had an inexpensive one (in Metric, I think)

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 6:03 PM

Bijou, I totally agree! As it sags, I'll get confused. They make the same screens for the battery.
Cvetaal, and nEhai husband washes The window I will open and wash. There is one nuance here. I didn’t even voice it at home. If you raise the window sill without reducing the window (I can’t imagine that at all), they say they put a false door there — here’s how to open the window then? I thought to just turn the window over: the hinged top part, the bottom is not openable (that's why we looked at American packages = 55 thousand + delivery, that well, they are), then you need a scraper on the handle and a detergent !!!!!

Posted Saturday 21 Jan 2017 6:07 PM

And they want an ordinary window with a vent, just like in the photo, just a package.And so that one flap opens. There is also an enlarged profile, but it is not enlarged by 10 cm after all! Therefore, I was interested in transitions and other nuances. An ordinary kitchen table, at which they eat, below the countertop, he says: make yourself a window sill lower and voila, sit down and drink coffee, or he offered to cut the legs of the stools !!!! : girl-swoon: He was sent to mnu.

If you raise the window sill without reducing the window

It won't work that way. The window clearly needs to be shortened at the bottom so that it can be opened.
And the Metrics are gone, they went bankrupt. Was it really wooden, and not with a wood pattern? Cheap countertops 60X3m sell, but I have 70cm width.

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 6:09 PM

And they want an ordinary window with a vent, just like in the photo, just a package.

And this increases the cost, by the way, decently.

[Anna]

Anna, no: pardon: not wooden, ordinary wood-like countertop. Wooden and NOT glued, I have not met at all. Wooden flashed on TV, channel estate, abroad, I'm sorry.

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, Anya, I asked about the facades, as it is important. Paint your chairs a creamy color that's a little lighter than your vanilla front. That is, we go from the darkest range to the lightest. The dining group should be made light in your color scheme. Look at the curtains with linen, take the brightest shade from your wallpaper. And plus a light organza or white tulle. And only when you introduce light tones can you use light light with white metal. The cornices should also be made of white metal.
Honestly, get away from all sorts of films, stickers, it is not cheap and will not meet your expectations.
Regarding the table, for 6 thousand you can buy a ready-made new table, look at Hoff, you can order from an online store in St. Petersburg, there are also other online stores.

There is a book on the Internet by Stephanie Hoppen Neutral color in the interior. Look through It, it will help you in the selection of colors and textures for your kitchen.

I drew another picture, I will add too

Somehow I want to.

[Hope]

Hope,

for 6 thousand you can buy a ready-made new table,

, you can, of course, but I want to use mine.

Honestly, get away from all sorts of films, stickers, it is not cheap and will not meet your expectations.

I just suggested as one of the options.

Look at the curtains with linen, take the brightest shade from your wallpaper. And plus a light organza or white tulle.

I think to minimize the curtains to a lambrequin obliquely made of organza + rolled, most likely. The brightest shade of the wallpaper is yellow (in the middle of the daisies). To be honest, I don’t see the bright yellow rolls.

Paint your chairs a creamy color that's a little lighter than your vanilla front. That is, we go from the darkest range to the lightest. The dining group should be made light in your color scheme.

I understood this thought, but I don’t know. is it possible to make brown chairs light without paint, only with the help of varnish. I will need to check with my masters.

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 06:31 PM

you can use light light,

But I didn’t understand it. What is meant by "light light"?

Oksana, how are you going to get into the far bottom corner of the "yellow cabinet"? There, after all, one flap will open, at the bottom, at least.

is it possible to make brown chairs light without paint, only with the help of varnish. I will need to check with my masters.

Do you think this is their natural color? Can be sanded, parquet after sanding brightens.

I drew another picture, I will add too

Somehow I want to.

Oksana, what is this program?

[kseniya D]

kseniya D, that's why I asked, how do you open the lower door under the sink? There are different opening mechanisms, this is a white hole in my project. But they open the corner cabinets ...

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 06:46 PM

Natusya, the usual Excel-cells are filled with color, this is not a program, the leaf was photographed.

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 06:48 PM

Natusya,: girl_red: I'm not good at the scheduler, yet! I also have a program on my tablet for arranging furniture, I have not studied it, I repent

Posted Saturday 21 Jan 2017 6:51 PM

kseniya D, there are such swing out mechanisms, and the upper one too: girl-q: I think the corner is poorly accessible, if not beveled.

they say they put a false door there, how to open the window then?

Oksana, the opening remains the same. At the bottom of the new window block there will be a plastic false panel, which is visible from the side of the street, and from the side of the apartment this height is laid by something.

What is shaded is the false panel, view from the street.
My corner opens with an accordion
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[kseniya D]

kseniya D, but not forced to register such a window? : secret: Strongly visible from the street?

Posted Saturday 21 Jan 2017 6:58 PM

Ksenia, now it is clear that the window will open normally.

I haven't heard of that. I'm not alone in the house with such a window. In fact, if you do not increase much, then it is not striking. And in your case, the difference, in general, will be almost imperceptible.

is it possible to make brown chairs light without paint, only with the help of varnish. I will need to check with my masters.

Your chairs are not brown, yellow. Sand to wood, stain with white stain. Top is varnish.
Stain can be found for every taste.

Oksana, how are you going to get into the far bottom corner of the "yellow cabinet"? There, after all, one flap will open, at the bottom, at least.

Yes, it's not a problem to open, I have such a broken door in a corner cabinet
But climbing is a problem. I keep there dishwasher salt and supplies of chemicals for it. When it's time to get it ... Convenience is not enough

When it's time to get it ... Convenience is not enough

Uh-huh. And offer that this cabinet should not exist at all - few will agree.

I have a sink above this cabinet, it's still partly useless space. And if you make a full-fledged wardrobe, then I do not envy those who have to get something from the far corner. I have one narrow locker, where the rarely used technique is closed. You have to take out all the contents ... And if it is a deep cabinet, then you need to be miniature in order to get to the farthest corner (in my case, you need to eat less)

[Kalyusya]

There are magic corners and all sorts of carousels.

Added Saturday 21 Jan 2017 7:24 PM

Kalyusya, well, not yellow in any way.

how do you open the lower door under the sink? There are different opening mechanisms, this is a white hole in my project. But they open the corner cabinets ...

Usually they put a carousel there if the eyeliner allows it. I didn't get up at my dacha, so there are just empty cans and boxes, which can be useful, but are not needed at hand, and in the "foreground" - stocks of soda, washing gel and dry mustard.

Yes, it's not a problem to open, I have such a broken door in a corner cabinet

Apparently I have the same, I have a sink there. In the farthest corner there is an 8-liter water tank from the filter. Narrow pull-out shelf with chemistry, pan and bucket. For good reason, there is still a little space, but it is extremely difficult to dive there.