Chamomile
Loksa, do you have to, be sure to keep this plate? Maybe a separate cooker and oven? At one time I kept the slab, but it was new and expensive, and I still regretted that I had not got rid of it.
Loksa
What is better to put in the corner? corner sink or just a corner cabinet?
Olga,Are there gas ovens? I focus on the gas stove because this condition = gas stove and oven! And as I remember they are 60 cm wide, even if there is a new one. It is stationary, I pulled out one, put the other.


Posted on Friday 20 January 2017 04:37 PM

Chamomile1, I already got used to the stove in it, well, it's not a problem, there is always gas and light saving. Here I agree with my mother-in-law.
Anna1957
Quote: Loksa
And as I remember they are 60 cm wide
Oksan, before stoves with ovens were 50X50, 60X50 and 60X60. Now there are even separate 45cm ovens. Well, the surfaces too. And there is even a micra function at the same time, I don't remember the sizes. But I didn’t bother to make an oven at all, I decided to do with a 28L Shteba stove and a micrometer.
Loksa
Anna, Electric Headquarters stove, and I want gas. 50 to 50 is a very small choice, 60 to 60 is very strong, I don't want to, there are 50 to 60 - these are more choices, you can find not a bad one. Decent factories don't make small, stationary freestanding slabs.
Anna1957
Quote: Loksa
the stove of the Headquarters is electric, and I want gas.
And Bijou here calculated that the savings there are ridiculous. And I also bought a gas grill pan. in which the oven can be.
Ljna
Loksa, I have a gas stove, I often use the staff. pizza in tristar. on the account for e / e was not strongly reflected
Chamomile
Loksa, I also got used to it and it seemed like nothing, okay, but it's better to have a separate cooker and oven.
It's better to have a closet in the corner, and set aside the minimum necessary for the sink, but that's for me. The corner cabinet is very large, always. And it is not rational to use it under pipes, tie-in siphons, etc. I took 50 cm under the sink. I have room for all the connections and a water purifier. Nothing else interferes (a sprinkler, cleaning powder and a bottle of dishwashing powder stood upright), but I don't need any more. Earlier, in the corner I had a sink and I suffered a lot from the mediocre wasted space, because the siphon hangs and greatly interferes, it was even difficult to adapt the additional shelf.
Loksa
Olga, I also think so about the corner cabinet, then there will be an ordinary nightstand in the corner. And if we do not count the sink, most likely we will change it, then minus the slab (width 60) and the window sill (30), 260-255 remains on furniture for furniture. She is also a standard cabinet 30, 60, 90, 120
Anna1957
And I also took pictures of the chandeliers at the K-reception. And roller blinds Furniture for kitchen Furniture for kitchen and a little closer Furniture for kitchen they can be rotated, so it looks a little asymmetrical.
And the curtains are in a small square.Furniture for kitchen
Loksa
Anna, pretty wave. All shades are matt.
Anna1957
Quote: Loksa

Anna, pretty wave. All shades are matt.
Don't you like matte?
Now I choose all rounded shapes. Where there are 5 shades, 200W is enough for 14.5m. And where the wave - did not look, but, probably, 4x40, also normal.
But this is a wallpaper drawing - so that it is clear about textiles Furniture for kitchen Tones - white, gray. yellow.
Chamomile
Anna1957, I really liked the first lamps.


Posted on Friday 20 Jan 2017 06:45 PM

and under them, the upper curtain is just good. My monitor shows that.
And there are also curtains with the same pattern as on light bulbs. I'll find now.
I did not find it, exactly the same as mine - no. And there the drawing is one to one, only on the curtains it is smaller and less expressive, merges in color.
Anchic
Loksa, Oksana, but don't you consider a separate oven? Firstly, you can take a gas one, this is not a problem. But I would advise you to think thoroughly about the electric oven.At one time, when I was choosing, I did not look at electrical cabinets for a very long time, thinking that it would be expensive to pay for electricity. Then somewhere I came across calculations of the real consumption of modern electric ovens. It turned out that everything is not so scary. I have been using an electric oven for two years now and I am very, very happy that I decided on it. This did not reflect much on electricity bills. There, when baking, it really runs up 1-1.5 kW per hour. Well, I bake white bread: I heat the oven for 30 minutes and the baking itself for 30 minutes, that is, exactly an hour. Well, I can afford to pay about 5 rubles for this (I don’t know exactly how much kilowatt we have now). All the same, bread comes out even cheaper than in the store about two times. Well, I am already silent about the taste. But convenience, more guaranteed result. The only negative is that I can’t bake when the lights are turned off. But this is no longer such a big drawback. I left the cooking room with a gas one, but here the difference in the price of electricity and gas will be more noticeable - we use cooking ten times a day. And my oven works about once every two days. Well, it happens that I bake something for two days in a row, but not in commercial volumes.
Anna1957
Olga, With color rendering In fact, the shades are yellowish in both chandeliers. And I liked the curtains because, on the one hand, they are monochrome, but still some kind of drawing. On the way, I casually taxied into Belarusian textiles, and there they showed me a pretty lambrequin with a scythe. I will find a site - I will show it.
I also want to show in detail a chandelier with 5 shades - fittings Furniture for kitchen I didn’t manage to take a good picture of it, I couldn’t choose a good angle against the background of the neighboring ones. there is a chamomile - under the wallpaper But it is right up to the ceiling, and the wave on the cords, given the high ceiling, this option wins.


Added Friday 20 Jan 2017 6:58 PM

Quote: Anchic
Well, I can afford to pay about 5 rubles for this
Here Bijou gave the same calculations, I remember.
And this is a photo for relaxation. The day was so sunny today, I could not resist Furniture for kitchen
lega
Quote: Anna1957
I also want to show in detail a chandelier with 5 shades
And the flowers in the center match the daisies on the wallpaper, and the fittings are rough to match the chairs ... think Anya
Anna1957
Quote: lga
the fittings are rough to match the chairs ... think Anya
By the way, today I talked with the masters about the restoration of chairs, and they suggested making a tabletop out of wood - just like Bijou advised. Of course, I won't be able to pull an oak tree, and I don't know at all - is it practical? I have never dealt with wooden surfaces.
And the flower, most likely, will simply not be visible under the ceiling. It looks very small, the plafonds are small.
Cirre
I liked the first with 4 shades. You can beat them
Anna1957
2 votes per wave. How to beat? And I was spinning around the second one even longer. In the photo, she usually looks enough, but in real life she hooked me with something.
lega
Quote: Anna1957
offered to make a tabletop of wood
And from what tree do they offer? How will they handle it? Maybe it's easier to use a regular wood-like countertop? It seems to me that it will be more convenient for her to use than just wooden, but the sea of ​​color options.
Anchic
Anna1957, you can also put glass on the table, then it is easy to wipe it, etc.
Bijou
Quote: Cirre
I liked the first with 4 shades.
Anh, how do you suppose to arrange the longitudinal compositions, along or across the room? That’s at least the crack twists me with such in the direction of zonality or at least some kind of symmetry.
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou

Anh, how do you suppose to arrange the longitudinal compositions, along or across the room? That’s at least the crack twists me with such in the direction of zonality or at least some kind of symmetry.
I thought across. Not?


Added Friday 20 Jan 2017 7:40 PM

Quote: lga

And from what tree do they offer? How will they handle it? Maybe it's easier to use a regular wood-like countertop? It seems to me that it will be more convenient for her to use than just wooden, and the sea of ​​color options.
Not discussed at all. I just thought about it.
Bijou
I don’t know, I still don’t manage to imagine.That's why I'm interested.)) Is the wire brought out from the geometric center of the room or is it the center of the space free from furniture?
Anna1957
Quote: Anchic

Anna1957, you can also put glass on the table, then it is easy to wipe it, etc.
No, it's cold. That's why I don't want porcelain stoneware, as on the work surface. And on Ali I saw some kind of plastic crap that was put on the table. Only if you specifically look for it, I probably won't find it.


Posted Friday 20 Jan 2017 7:43 PM

Quote: Bijou
from the geometric center of the room
They did it when there was no furniture yet.



Posted Friday 20 Jan 2017 7:47 PM

Quote: lga
Maybe it's easier to use a regular wood-like countertop? It seems to me that it will be more convenient for her to use than just wooden, and the sea of ​​color options.
The usual one is 60cm wide, and I have a 70X110 table. And it must be made the same as the chairs, otherwise there is no point in the tree. Now I just have it white (from the old headset).
Loksa
Anna, chamomile is not bad, you can also pay attention to the kitchen itself, how a round chandelier and a wave will fit in (will not stretch the room)
Are the curtains transparent? I liked the top, very nice color. The rest seemed to me dark.
Olga VB
Anechka, Somewhere here there was a photo of a film on the table, which looks good and is served perfectly, and is not afraid of a knife. It happens completely transparent, with dressing (even chamomile, even geometry), with a pattern, and so on.
Then under it you can use a tree, and your tiles, and a colored tablecloth or path.
About the lamp. I thought that you had it displaced (above the table), but if not, then the linear construction will look incomprehensible, IMHO.
Loksa
Anna, a wooden table top is worth the money, I guess! If glue wood, you need to look so that it does not crack? One-piece does not come in this size. The idea is good, before everything was done on wooden tables, bare. But I doubt about the gluing.


Added Friday 20 Jan 2017 08:47 PM

Anna, chandelier across? do you have a square kitchen? kind of rectangular?


Added on Friday 20 January 2017 08:48 PM

Anchic, Anya, I'll think about an electric oven.
Anna1957
Quote: Olga VB
I thought that you had it displaced (above the table), but if not, then the linear construction will look incomprehensible, IMHO.
I was afraid to move so as not to miss the center. Now I think that the ceiling should have been done after the furniture was made - then it would be clear exactly where to make a hole in the ceiling under the chandelier. Or ceilings are not made where there is already furniture? And to me it does not seem incomprehensible in the center. In short, you have to buy, try on - and look at the spot.



Posted Friday 20 Jan 2017 8:54 PM

Quote: Loksa
do you have a square kitchen? kind of rectangular?
Rectangular, about 3X5, slightly smaller.



Added Friday 20 Jan 2017 8:58 PM

Quote: Loksa
Are the curtains transparent?
No, the seller said that only silhouettes will be visible in the dark. Photo color is inaccurate. I just wanted to show the drawing on them.
Bijou
Quote: Olga VB
About the lamp. I thought that you had it displaced (above the table), but if not, then the linear construction will look incomprehensible, IMHO.
Here! I tell her from the first day about it!
Anna1957
I found a wooden tabletop in Ikea. My width, and sawed off along the length. But I don't know - will the saw cut be processed normally? I threw it to my masters, waiting for what they say.
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KLO
Anna1957Look in Slotex (I read positive reviews), there you can cut it off, the edge in the color of the countertop is usually sold, in Ikea (the edge) used to go along with the countertop.
Cirre
Quote: Anna1957

I found a wooden tabletop in Ikea. My width, and sawed off along the length. But I don't know - will the saw cut be processed normally? I threw it to my masters, waiting for what they say.
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It doesn't fit under the chairs at all.
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou

Here! I tell her from the first day about it!
I can't insert pictures. but according to this link 1 kitchen is my option in terms of the possible location of such a lamp. 🔗


Added Friday 20 Jan 2017 09:27 PM

Quote: Cirre

It doesn't fit under the chairs at all.
So they will be covered with a dark varnish, and it can be covered with the same varnish.
Cirre
Furniture for kitchen
Anna1957
Quote: KLO

Anna1957Look in Slotex (I read positive reviews), there you can cut it off, the edge in the color of the countertop is usually sold, in Ikea (the edge) used to go along with the countertop.
Not that coat. And they don't seem to attach an edge to the tree.


Added Friday 20 Jan 2017 09:31 PM

In, Gal. Thank you. This picture. Center and across. It seems like nothing.
Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
Center and across. It seems like nothing.
Relatively what across?
Do not equate this kitchenette with your monster!
Olga VB
This?
Furniture for kitchen
Here the shape of the lamp is emphasized by the shape of the ceiling, in addition, it visually separates the kitchen area from the rest of the room combined with it.
You will not have such a picture, you will enter the kitchen not perpendicular to the line of the lamp.
In the picture, the ceiling is fully visible, and yours is completely covered with furniture. It turns out that with such a linear lamp you deform the space even more. And what for?
But it seems that you have solved this question for yourself, just waiting for confirmation?
Anya, you should like to live. Moreover, for us girls, "I want" is the most important and important argument.
Cirre
Anya, there are many of us here, as many people and opinions. So I looked at the kitchen again, as I understand it, will there be a table where the vacuum cleaner is now? So on the ceiling I hung something like this spot, and on the wall near the table I would pick up a similar spot or something like a sconce

Furniture for kitchen

Furniture for kitchen
Anna1957
Quote: Olga VB
Somewhere here was a photo of the film on the table, which looks good and is served great, and is not afraid of a knife. It happens completely transparent, with dressing (even chamomile, even geometry), with a pattern, and so on.
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I found one. Without picture. Did you mean this? And I have already found it with a drawing. With bamboo. And the curtain was kind of white with an indistinct bamboo.



Added Friday 20 Jan 2017 9:55 PM

Quote: Bijou

Relatively what across? : -
Do not equate this kitchenette with your monster!
Across the length of A monster I, count. I did not notice


Posted on Friday 20 Jan 2017 9:56 PM

Quote: Olga VB
you will enter the kitchen not perpendicular to the line of the lamp.
Why? Just perpendicular.



Added Friday 20 Jan 2017 9:57 PM

Quote: Cirre
where is the vacuum cleaner now, will there be a table?




Added Friday 20 Jan 2017 21:59

Quote: Olga VB
But it seems that you have solved this question for yourself, just waiting for confirmation?
No, Ol, I haven't decided anything yet. I listen to all the arguments, I think about it.



Added Friday 20 Jan 2017 10:02 PM

Quote: Cirre
and on the wall near the table would pick up a similar spot or something like a sconce
I'm not sure if I need wall sconces. Now, without him, I have enough light at the dining table in my mother's kitchen.



Posted Friday 20 Jan 2017 10:08 PM

Quote: Olga VB
It turns out that with such a linear lamp you deform the space even more. And what for?
That is, must there be a round base? Somewhere I showed this. Here Furniture for kitchen
Tanyusha
Cirre, I need such a chandelier, where did I find it and what is it called.
Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
Across the length of A monster I, count. I did not notice
The monster is. As I can imagine, how many useful things and not so much can be crammed into these three floors, it takes a lot!

Listen .. And what is the ceiling? I mean, how will the lamp be mounted? There are several attachment systems, any one will suit you? I just thought that if a perpendicular long lamp warms you so much, and the wire is brought to one side, then is it not possible to cover this wire with the base of the lamp and attach the light to the center of physical space?

In that dainty kitchen that you showed with the lamp, the small caps look good. It is due to the fact that there is a "kitchenette" around. Are you sure that such a trifle will look harmonious in your version?

It is difficult for us to judge from here, we cannot feel the scale. ((
Olga VB
Quote: Olga VB

Anechka, Somewhere here there was a photo of a film on the table, which looks good and is served perfectly, and is not afraid of a knife. It happens completely transparent, with dressing (even chamomile, even geometry), with a pattern, and so on.
Then under it you can use a tree, and your tiles, and a colored tablecloth or path.
Here, you can see the film herewhich I wrote about. By the way, with camomiles.
And here is what they write about her:
Quote: GALLAKTIKA
This is how we sell this oilcloth:
Furniture for kitchen
Furniture for kitchen
Width to choose from 60 cm.(350 rubles / m) up to 120 cm (470 rubles / m), and as long as needed, so much will be measured. We call it "cleverly" - heat-resistant oilcloth, because you can put hot on it, there are no traces (I put a saucepan from the pressure cooker right away), as it is officially called, I don't even know. I can't say for the whole thing, but the one that I had when they cut it to the table top - seven sweats disappeared. That is, it is very difficult to cut through specifically. But now I specially checked it on the pruning, if it is carried out with a knife, then the scratches remain, and in six months I have not a trace on the tabletop, although both my son and husband love to cut bread "live".
You see, there is also just transparent, without any drawings at all, and it does not shine very much. It will turn out no worse than glass, only not cold to hands or eyes.

About "perpendicular". You enter perpendicular to the axis, but not the luminaire, it seems to work from the corner, that is, the entrance is not opposite the middle, from which the wire sticks out?
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou
The monster is.
The word "monster" comes from lat. monstros, monstrum with the root "moneo" meaning "to warn" or "miracle." Allegorically, how a metaphor can refer to an object of physical or psychological domination with supernatural forces (ruler, predator), as well as a real or fictional object of nature or a technical device with outstanding, including supra-natural qualities (size, strength, power, etc.) ...

In a figurative sense, it can be used to refer to a person who sharply - and usually differs from others for the worse in their moral qualities
Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
fictional object of nature or technical device with outstanding, including supernatural qualities (size
In-in! * nods often, often *
Cirre
Quote: Tanyusha

Cirre, I need such a chandelier, where did I find it and what is it called.

Tanyusha, these are spots. They are ceiling-mounted and wall-mounted.

Found here, 4 pages.

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Anna1957
Quote: Bijou
Listen .. And what is the ceiling? I mean, how will the lamp be mounted? There are several attachment systems, will any one suit you? I just thought that if a perpendicular long lamp warms you so much, and the wire is brought to one side, then is it not possible to cover this wiring with the base of the lamp and attach the light to the center of the physical space?
Stretch ceiling with a hole from which the wire sticks out. The center of the physical space - if you cut the depth of the top floor from the ceiling size? I can’t imagine how it will be fixed there.



Added Friday 20 Jan 2017 11:41 PM

Olga VB, but the usual oilcloth somehow does not want. Although it's not a fact that Ali is better. Although the reviews are good.
Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
I can’t imagine how it will be fixed there.
Nothing, if the tensioner. ((I mean, my idea won't work. You ask your masters which fastener to buy, otherwise there will be another problem. If I remember correctly, only the hook can be passed through the tensioner. But I am not an authority in this a question from the word at all - we hung the lamps for a long time. So just ask for advice.
Olga VB
This is not an ordinary oilcloth at all, it is dense, heat-resistant, not scratched, almost plexiglass, only flexible and anti-slip.
And the texture of the tree under it will be clearly visible, and it will protect this texture perfectly.
But that's just an option.
Anna1957
Quote: Olga VB
that is, the entrance is not against the middle, from which the wire sticks out?
Yes, on the left - 70cm, and on the right - 150cm of the wall. So a round base seems more suitable for you? After all, any chandelier will turn out not exactly opposite the entrance. Atas just, such things just never occurred to me



Posted on Friday 20 Jan 2017 11:51 PM

Quote: Olga VB
And the texture of the tree under it will be clearly visible, and it will protect this texture perfectly.
And I thought to put it on the current white surface of the table. Found opaque, drawing - bamboo. 7 in 1 row
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kil
Quote: Loksa

What is better to put in the corner? corner sink or just a corner cabinet?
Olga,Are there gas ovens? I focus on a gas stove because this condition = gas stove and oven! And as I remember they are 60 cm wide, even if there is a new one. It is stationary, I pulled out one, put the other.
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Oksana, full of gas built-in ovens and sizes from 45 to 60, is quite compact. I also have gas and I will not put on an electric oven, because in the private sector sometimes there is not enough power and the tariff is expensive, but with gas at least do not turn it off. If a good gas stove, then everything can be done in it. By the way, I'm going to take the top panel of Dominoshka too, because 2 comforts are enough for me, I cook more in the cartoon and by this I will blow the top and them. The top of the stove will be in a narrower place, and I will already build the cabinet at chest level, and not on the floor. Since there are options, you just need to think about what you have enough money for and what moments are critical for you. I have only plans so far ...

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