I-ri-sha
It's my pleasure!
The back wall interferes with ventilation, therefore, in the installation instructions, modules are recommended without back walls. Built-in refrigerators and microwaves, by the way, too.
matroskin_kot
And no one has met the system of embedding the trowel, preferably in a vertical cabinet, or something acceptable? Tired of carrying her around the house.
matroskin_kot
There is no closet, there is a wall in the bathroom, 45 cm, where you can attach the closet, well, you can add it in some other place, in the hall (I’ll call the corridor loudly), it’s just easier to pick up and order a locker in the bathroom, probably.
matroskin_kot
I have a rather large bathroom, there is a trowel right now, people iron all the worn things on it, but towels, bedding, I carry it around the house, then in my room, then put it in the corridor, but there is no TV, ironing is so uninteresting ... Boring. So I think that you can leave it in the bathroom, well, or somewhere else ... There is no such thing to wash a separate room - and iron it right away ... Or rather, the washer and dryer are in a separate room - in the boiler room, there they belong, but the ironer is there put it - I'll die of melancholy, and there is no place there anymore ...
I-ri-sha
Basically, it's simple: measure your assembled trowel at the widest and thickest point. The widest is the depth of your cabinet + 3-4 cm (indent to the back wall) + facade thickness + clearance for free adhesion. The thickest + clearance is the width of the compartment in the cabinet. Well, height + clearance. Calculate these values, determine for yourself the maximum size of the cabinet based on the place where it is planned to be put, fill the voids in the cabinet with shelves.
matroskin_kot
And the mechanism, so that it could be put out and put out from there, and then folded, on the hinges ...
I-ri-sha
Such mechanisms come complete with special trowels. You can't attach an ordinary ironer like that. HAFELE has a foldable one. There in the catalog and the installation diagram is with dimensions.
Gypsy
In theory, IKEA also has such a trowel built into kitchen cabinets .. but I did not find this in Israeli Ikea.
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I also want to build the board into the closet, so that it does not irritate my eyes, and I don’t find a place for it in the house.

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matroskin_kot
No, well, my bathroom isn't that big. I really liked the penultimate option, where the ironer from the built-in cabinet is laid out
Nata333
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The back wall in the module under the built-in oven is not installed by default - so you can safely remove it and throw it away.
Maybe there is a back wall for rigidity? If there is just a chipboard frame on itself, then it is quite possible that the back wall is needed there, or at least a couple of slats, so that it does not disperse from the kick.
I-ri-sha
For rigidity, they are assembled on kerchiefs - these are such corners made of fiberboard at the corners of the module.
In addition, in the correct module for the oven there is a drawer for trays: this drawer and the oven niche are separated by a horizontal shield, which is the binder for the entire structure.

Shl. Even if the module is assembled with your feet, in the installed kitchen, as a rule, it is pulled tightly against the adjacent modules, and it is almost impossible to break it apart.
Ukka
I do not advise anyone to take furniture from the furniture factory in Uman - and the service and quality are very low!
In July, before moving, I ordered a kitchen "Olya" in Uman with glossy MDF doors in a furniture showroom in our city. They brought it at the end of August, while two doors came with a completely different pattern ... I called the store, they brought the doors with my pattern at the end of September ... The master of the store collected it. I bought a solid worktop in August at the furniture warehouse "Tess", where you could also buy higher-quality doors and without any problems ...But it was already too late, I was waiting from the factory ... My brother installed the tabletop and pulled the cabinets and put the plastic legs ... True, he said that the doors were g ...
Then horror stories began - on two doors of the lower middle cabinet, MDF film began to lag behind - but not like normal people, along the edge, but in the middle, where the grooves in the picture ... Neither steam, nor hot air, nor water gets there - the cabinet this one in the middle ... I called the store, they answered - "bring the defective doors, we will draw up an act - a claim, send them to the factory, and they will send you new doors." Again, the kitchen will be without doors ... Then I decided to leave everything as it is and order my brother with doors made of natural wood, he really does a lot for a long time - just in time for my 45th birthday he will ...

Photo of my kitchen in August ..

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But I do not advise anyone to take the furniture of Uman now !!!
Gin
ukka, and can still try to send the doors to the factory? Why leave the marriage at home? The money has been given, the mood is ruined - let them redo it. And then the doors made of natural wood are still waiting for a long time
Ukka
Gin, Thanks for the sympathy!!!
I'll calm down a little here and stand up to the store - let them assess the damage, draw up an act of claim and we will deal with the exchange. Only first, let the factory send out new doors, and when I receive them, let them take their defective doors ... But in no other way - I'm tired of their fuss !!! And so many nerves have already been spent ... I had to give up initially - when the first delay went, at that moment I bought a countertop at Tessa and found out that they have decent facades, there is also a sawing of decent quality ... But to me conscience did not allow to let the store down, they had already ordered from the factory ...
Well, nothing, it will stand still, the lag is not visible visually, (you can only hear it by touch, you can see their glue is bad ...), the edges are still intact, i.e.
Luysia
This is really not quite a kitchen: the place for the ironing board is chosen in the built-in wardrobe, and the wardrobe itself is on the insulated balcony. Nice and should be comfortable:

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matroskin_kot
Oh, what a handy little thing, you iron - you look out the window. And today I looked at my kitchen countertop, someone (I even know who) cut without a board and now cuts ... I wonder if you can polish them ?. The table top is covered with plastic on top ...
Luysia
And a little sadism for personally Omela (photo of this lodge from the other side).

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is it a tumble dryer at the top of the ceiling?

Aha!
lega
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And today I looked at my kitchen countertop, someone (I even know who) cut without a board and now cuts ... I wonder if you can polish them ?. The top is covered with plastic ...

You can polish, but it's useless ... Well this is a kitchen, there must be increased cleanliness, so you will wipe off all the polishing yourself ... In any case, that's exactly what happened to me ...
matroskin_kot
Well, now, before the next renovation ... then I will change the entire tabletop ... At least with a stick to guard, so that the criminal can be caught and punished
Ukka
And I have a 7m loggia in general, glazed and insulated ...
And in the old apartment, the apartment was also the same (7m), so I always ironed clothes right there in the summer, the board was right there and stood ... And I will also be in this apartment (I, in fact, was looking for an apartment with such a large loggia ...
Zhivchik
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But my dryer is the same for linen !!!

And I have the same dryer.

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How to use such a dryer? I liked it terribly - I will want her!

I really like the ceiling dryer. And most importantly, it does not bother anyone. You take the string, put it down, hang the linen on a stick, raise the string, fixing it on a nonsense. I don’t know what it’s called.
Cook
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How to use such a dryer? I liked it terribly - I will want her!

We lower the rope. The metal stick is lowered to the length at which we fixed it. We hang the linen and lift it up by the rope. Something like this.
Ukka
I roughly understood the principle of operation.
And how many meters in length, and where to buy, and how much does it cost ???

And then in our houses, according to the project, planks with hooks (4 pieces each) are nailed at a rather low height - 1.5 m ... I thought the previous tenants had invented this, I looked at the loggia in the next house - everywhere ...
Cook
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I roughly understood the principle of operation.
And how many meters in length, and where to buy, and how much does it cost ???

And then in our houses, according to the project, planks with hooks (4 pieces each) are nailed at a rather low height - 1.5 m ... I thought the previous tenants had invented this, I looked at the loggia in the next house - everywhere ...
They are of different lengths and a different number of "sticks". The cost varies greatly, depending on where to get it. My last drying cost 1,500 rubles. Before that, it was 400 rubles.
Omela
ukka , really a very handy thing. The girls have already described the principle of action - lowered, hung the linen, raised it.

I bought it 10 years ago .. I don’t even remember where and for how much. It is not very long in length, 2 meters. I have two of them. The only thing, on the one that is closer to the balcony door, and which I use more often, the plastics on which the ropes are fixed were broken. And the plastic itself crumbled in the sun. I plan to throw it away (will I disassemble sometime a balcony thread), and in its place outweigh the second.
Agata
ukka , bought a year ago at the railway market in Donetsk, in the part where there are all sorts of household things. 5 slats 2m long each. The dryer then cost a little less than UAH 100.
They are both 1m and 2.5m long.
Polish and Turkish for sale. The former are better: the slats are stronger.
The most difficult thing is to "drill" into the ceiling-concrete slab of the balcony from above in order to attach it. You need brute masculine strength.
Ukka
So, I have two nadot along the way ... The price is good enough.
And I constantly need brute man's strength - I have repairs ... I really got a drill, but I'm afraid I will blow all the walls - both my own and those of my neighbors ...

But if someone took a closer look ... Or remembered what it is called ...
matroskin_kot
Yeah, the main thing when drilling is not to get into some kind of void .... My dryer initially collapsed with linen ... Unsuccessfully drilled ... Only I have a wall mount, a ceiling-canopy made of polycarbonate, but also a handy thing. : yes: In the summer. Now-damp-does not dry, but sour ...
Rusya
ukka, I have a godfather a couple of months ago I was looking for such a dryer through the Internet. I found it cheaper in Kiev, begged my sister, who is studying there, to stop by to pick it up and bring it to us in Cherkassy. I don't remember the size, but she took it to the bathroom, it cost 200 UAH. And after that, having visited the construction hypermarket Epicenter, which is in our city, I discovered that just such a dryer is 20 hryvnia cheaper, hangs calmly and waits for its customers.
Zhivchik
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True, they gave me a drill, but I'm afraid of it - I will tear down all the walls - both my own and those of my neighbors ...

Yucca, you will drill one hole with this drill for three days. And then if there is a victorious drill. This is if you do not have wooden floors, but reinforced concrete.
A puncher is needed here.
Zhivchik
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The only thing, on the one that is closer to the balcony door, and which I use more often, the plastics on which the ropes are fixed were broken. And the plastic itself crumbled in the sun.

We, too, have broken those plasmasks long ago. The husband has wrapped it up with white duct tape and everything is holding up well.

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Now-damp-does not dry, but sour ...

And in our bathroom from the heated towel rail the heat all year round. Actually, the dryer hangs there.
Ukka
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Yucca, you will drill one hole with this drill for three days. And that is if there is a victorious drill. This is if you do not have wooden floors, but reinforced concrete.
A puncher is needed here.
No, my brother drilled holes in the concrete wall under the shelf with it - he said that the drill was good, with high revs, it was worse ... Then with the same drill, when he made a recess for the bracket in the wall of the wardrobe with a cutter, he cut my wrist with a cutter .. A good drill ... That's why I'm afraid of it, I don't feel it in my hands, but there is no instruction ...

I'll look for a dryer ... And then strain my brother ...
Zhivchik
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No, my brother drilled holes in the concrete wall under the shelf with it - he said that the drill was good, with high speeds, it was worse ...

There are two options here: either the wall was not concrete, but gypsum-cardboard or a percussion drill (good).
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Girls in what topic did I show pictures of how the Japanese place all the equipment in small kitchens?

It seems to me that in this topic, only can you go over all 67 pages?
Gypsy
The shelf is exactly 60 cm, just under the standard width (depth) of the kitchen
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Tashi
Gypsy : flowers great idea with whatnot !!! Yes, for our kitchen bells and whistles, no cupboards are enough. I made the shelves 92 cm (there were 72) and still there is not enough space. You have a good kitchen, and where you can see what you have already done and purchase Photo of your kitchen, after renovation, I will definitely post it later I have a beige top with a black countertop
Luysia
Gypsy, whatnot is good, but how will you load the bread maker? After all, you still need to carry it tody-syudy. But the slow cooker, in my opinion, stood there like a dear.
Gypsy
my husband offered to remove one shelf to open the bread maker ... I have refused so far. Tomorrow I’ll think it over with a fresh mind, I pushed everything together for the night looking for joy. Although I am already dragging the x \ n here and there, it does not yet have its place. It was a sin not to buy the girls, the bookcase is very inexpensive.

Nothing has been done yet, not even the base has been made
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my husband offered to remove one shelf to open the bread maker ... I have refused so far. Tomorrow I’ll think it over with a fresh mind, I pushed everything together for the night looking for joy. Although I am already dragging the x \ n here and there, it does not yet have its place. It was a sin not to buy the girls, the bookcase is very inexpensive.
Nothing has been done yet, not even the base has been made
Gypsy, think about making a pull-out shelf on which the bread maker will stand and move out together with the snya, forward to the working position ...
Gypsy
Wine, IGR, yeah, and 2 bottles of juice. Recently, I am a teetotal person .. almost .. so the stock does not melt. Loaded from Moscow Armenian cognac 0.7 each .. while we destroy it

Packat, according to my plan, I have a sideboard-niche for x / n equipment, a combine ... let it stay that way for now.
Gypsy
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For the same reason, I bought two of these, they stand on the balcony.
I saw it in the booklet, I tell my husband to buy it, it will fit me in size, I don’t like the quality or whatever, you can always attach it anywhere, in the closet at last. She has the option to fasten one bookcase to the second .. if someone needs a lot of bookcases.
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gyy) set now to knead * burgers *, the whatnot is shaking It is necessary to fasten it tightly to the wall.
Lyi
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Pakat, according to my plan, I have a sideboard-niche for x / n equipment, a combine ...
But this niche sideboard interests me very much.
I liked the idea very much, something like the same whatnots, but with retractable shelves, on which most of the devices will stand.
Do not forget, plizz, a photo to the studio as you come up with it.
In the project, order yourself new built-in wardrobes in the kitchen.
Gypsy
* Everything already stolen invented before us * My kitchen consists of two parallel rows of furniture, one row of cabinets against the wall with a window, the second, as it were, separates the salon from the kitchen (all one large room). A sideboard is a cabinet that is molded with its back to the kitchen cabinets. From the side of the salon, there are doors up to the table top, from the side of the kitchen there is a niche at the top level with the countertop for storing equipment. You can make sliding doors in a niche to hide equipment from eyes and dust. Right now I will look for similar photos.

In the Ikeevsky program, I did not pick up the necessary * sideboard *, but everything should look something like this:
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The idea of ​​a niche is something like this, a Japanese woman has a dish dryer in it, I must have equipment (inside according to the outlet plan)
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Lyi
This option does not suit me. I have a kitchen of 12 sq m and I do not want to divide it into 2 small cells.
And, on reflection, I decided that it makes no sense to put devices high up under the ceiling, it will be difficult to look in there during the cooking process, and jumping up the stairs is not comme il faut.
I will still think.
Gypsy
12 meters is gorgeous! If your kitchen is of a different plan, then perhaps the Japanese pull-out shelves under the countertop are about you.
Lyi
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Japanese pull-out shelves under the countertop is about you
Here's just where to get them. For now, I will place the built-in cabinets in the project in my mind.
Last time I downloaded a program with programming (placing devices) of the kitchen, but it turned out to be with a virus. Reinstalled and everything is in your computer. Thank God, nothing seems to be missing. I no longer risk downloading.
You still have to order, and I'll play there.
Gypsy
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Here's just where to get them ..
Duc, this is the simplest .. ordinary drawers. If you said * where to get the hoods under the countertop * yes, this is the question. And so, if there are no hoods, then the equipment will puff on the extended shelf.
Gypsy
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For now, I will place the built-in cabinets in the project in my mind.
why in your mind, download a free program on the ikea website and enjoy the stirring of furniture in the kitchen
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I would have thrown mine for you, but it is in Hebrew and is already outdated. Ikea seems to have a new program. In Russian:

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