Furniture for kitchen

I don't know about the drawings, but you can just move the furniture in the ikeev program

they have cabinets there with dimensions, it seems to me suitable for cutting.

Ladies and Gentlemen! Does anyone know of a decent computer program available (for dummies!) To design a kitchen and make nesting drawings?

PRO100 and Astra-Cutting, KithenDraw

Thank you. I will deal with Manilovism. Dream dreams ... when else can we start remodeling the kitchen? But, we need to start doing something (the kitchen was made almost ten years ago, but it was made for two adults, and certainly not for "adults + children" (and even with so much technology that I acquired, thanks to this wonderful forum ).

[Rina72]

Rina72, I liked the PRO100 program, it is quite simple, there is also a 3D view and the ability to select facades and cabinet fillers. I didn't like the IKEA program, I won't say anything about Astra ...

[Rina72]

Rina72, I liked the PRO100 program, it is quite simple, there is also a 3D view and the ability to select facades and cabinet fillers. I didn't like the IKEA program, I won't say anything about Astra ...

ukka, and what did you not like Ikeevskaya? according to your descriptions PRO100 in ikeevskaya can do the same.

Thank you girls for appreciating my kitchen !!!

There are no doors on the upper left cabinet yet - they sent it from the factory with a completely different pattern ... Now I'm waiting for the door with my own pattern ...

And I bought the countertop separately at the furniture warehouse, my brother advised. By the way, my brother rebuilt my kitchen after craftsmen from the store, put it on its legs, pulled the cabinets together, set everything up and put the countertop. And he entrusted me with siliconizing between the tabletop and the tile ... I liked the siliconizing ...

ukka, and what did you not like Ikeevskaya? according to your descriptions PRO100 in ikeevskaya can do the same.

It's just that I know PRO100 for about 5 years, but I didn't understand something at IKEA. In general, the most powerful program is KithenDraw ....

And I navayla in Ikeevskaya and happy

I just didn’t understand it .... At work, I draw drawings in two programs - either in AUTOCAD or in Compass ... But I love it more -
Compass, and I can't do anything with myself

People, is there anyone here who collected IKEEV cuisine himself? What problems could there be and how quickly did they collect it?
I have the same little white one, I need to collect it already, but it's scary
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[Gypsy]

Gypsy, furniture from IKEA, very easy to assemble, there are detailed
guides on how to collect it, if you follow them carefully, nothing complicated. It even says what tools are needed to collect
and if the hands grow from where it is necessary, it is assembled without problems ...
In extreme cases, you can order a team of assemblers, 2-3 people come, within 3-4 hours they assemble the most difficult wall ...
For this, you have to pay extra ... Think ...
The most difficult thing is not assembling and installing the kitchen, but drilling the walls and installing fasteners for it, the walls are different, they hold in different ways and each time you have to select a fastener to securely hold on to a particular wall. Brick, concrete, drywall (dry plaster), wood, etc., etc., require different drills, different screws and dowels, special fasteners, etc. Shopping trips guaranteed ...

The package about instructions is in the course, but my half of my hand does not quite grow from there, he usually does not read instructions. In an extreme case, there is always an assembly from IKEA, but we have not yet paid for it, it costs 2,000 shekels, for 2 thousand we want to swing by ourselves.And did IKEA take into account everything, maybe some bolts and clamps are needed or some other piece of iron. I mean this, this kind of problem.

I read the supplement. Got it. They had already drilled the walls and hung the furniture in the bathroom, I think this will not be new to my husband. He wanted to start from the upper drawers. Pakat, did you assemble a kitchen from IKEA?

[read instructions]

IKEA usually takes everything into account and delivers a complete set, it's another matter if you yourself lose something. They have their phone for this, you call, they usually provide change for free, but as I understand it, their store is far from you ...
For consistency, read instructions, see the complete set, everything is signed in detail ...
I collected the kitchen from friends, a few years ago they collected it "for three", that is, three of us, in a Canadian house, there are different walls, we tinkered a little ...

Gathered to hang Ikeev's chandeliers, they assembled the mustache, shortened it, began to hang it - there is no hook in the ceiling Maybe IKEA shouldn't have put the hooks in the chandeliers, but it was the builders / electricians who didn't do it like that .. in short, they didn't hang the chandeliers that day, I had to go to the hozmag for hooks.

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Well, I think there is experience and tools, so go for it, it is not the gods who burn the pots, but thoughtfully, read the instructions, follow the sequence and everything will be fine ...
Climb the site - 🔗, maybe there is something sensible ...

Did you take the Ikeevsky countertop too?

No, as far as I remember, they bought it somewhere else, we have a choice ...

No, as far as I remember, they bought it somewhere else, we have a choice ...

And the one who sold this countertop installed it? weren't there any problems? I have a countertop from a different place too.

We installed it ourselves, but IKEA removed the dimensions from the standard countertop, ordered it according to it, with cutouts for all devices, also not from IKEA.
There were no problems, these tabletops are made in a stream, they have templates for any device ...

We installed it ourselves, but IKEA removed the dimensions from the standard countertop, ordered it according to it, with cutouts for all devices, also not from IKEA.

We will not ourselves, we have a Caesar stone, a sink and a stove are not Ikeev's. Bricklayers will carve for us and they will install, the work is included in the cost of the stone. IKEA also has a Caesar stone, but the choice of colors is limited.

The tabletop was made of some kind of special granite, life warranty, it is solid, it was made right at the factory. Everything came close, three Soviet engineers - strength ...

I have an ikeevskaya kitchen, and all the furniture in the apartment too. There were no problems with the assembly, read the main instructions, any attempts to speed up the process or disrupt the sequence lead to disassembly and reassembly.
The hardest part is cutting holes in the countertop and drilling the walls. ))))

Booboo thanks
While drilling holes, my husband ate several dogs on Saturday He drilled ten holes in the bathroom when he hung up the mirror and did not get everything in the right place, everything was well covered with shelves, and so all the tiles are now damaged And only specialists can cut a stone countertop, they have special equipment ... IKEA has the cheapest sinks in Israel, but I quickly gave them up, since they all have bumpers, that is, dirt and stone will grow there all the time, and you can't wipe the water and dirt off the table with a rag or rubber band into the sink:


I'll buy a Chinese one of this type so that you can drown it in the countertop:

I have exactly the same sink as in the top picture. It seems that nothing is overgrown anywhere, but I wash it every day. Aunt Besya taught it.))))) If I bought it now, I would take a single, but large one.

Bubu, I believe that I am clean with the sides, I just moved out of the apartment where there was such a sink. A sink recessed in the countertop is more comfortable, the general rule for any objects: fewer grooves and corners - less dirt. And the second advantage, which I also wrote above, allows you to brush water and dirt from the countertop into the sink, which, alas, does not allow sinks with sides to be made.
Here is such a thing to burn and the tabletop is clean:

If I bought it now, I would take a single one, but a large one.

Why?

My countertop is not the one to sink)))))) I do not argue which is better.

I don't use the small part at all, but I would like to have more of the big one. What are you planning to do in a small part?

I don't use the small part at all, but I would like to have more of the big one. What are you planning to do in a small part?

That's right BooBoo, the sink needs to be large so that the baking sheet can be washed.

I planned to put something clean there so that the water would drain. It's not too late for me to change my mind, if you convince me I can't afford the sink more than 80cm, since the furniture has already been bought. By the way, single ones are cheaper, it's good for us

for example what is clean? let's be specific, you say what you are going to put there or what to do there. Straight point by point. )))))

Vegetables, fruits, grass, dishes, and you never know what else can be washed in the sink. You can, of course, do all this in a single, but when separately it seems to be more sterile

I would not put clean vegetables and fruits there, as it seems to me it is not very hygienic. We have a dishwasher for clean dishes, and Ikeev's shelf hangs above my sink. So I put it on it. I sometimes throw garbage into this little sink when I fly around the kitchen in the park. ))). If we are talking about potatoes and carrots, then I wash them and immediately clean them right into the big sink. But it is not convenient to wash a large frying pan, because it hardly fits into the larger part. I generally keep quiet about the baking sheet, though I don't wash it too much.

Well, why is it not hygienic when you wash your sink every day: It's also antibacterial. And then it will drain in its own dish, in a strainer, which is washed in the same way with soap as any dish.


Most often I boil potatoes and carrots, not fry them, so they do not need to drain. And wash some eggs before cooking in a rice cooker. There is a dishwasher, but not all wash in it. I have a long window above the sink, no shelves to hang there. There will be gags at the top, and the drying is not mounted in them either. So there is a sense in my case. With the argument that a large-sized one may not fit into most of the sink, I accept, yes, I agree, I myself like large sinks, it is convenient to wash cats in them

Here is a drawing with the dimensions of the sink I wanted to buy:

large sink 45 by 47 cm, not enough of course, but this model is the largest (main sink) of double up to 80 cm.

In the last apartment I put the Ikeevsky black * colander * on a single large sink - also not bad.

Boobu, thanks for your opinion. I'll look at the single in more detail today.

I walked over the sinks again. Single ones are cheaper only those that are not more than 45x50, and if the size is like 45x75, then the price is almost 2 times more expensive than my double. I found a double one with a larger large bath and a narrower small bath, more expensive of course. 900 nis. against 1300, but the sizes are more convenient.

I have a single sink 50x40, a large bowl from an airfryer, a large frying pan, etc. can easily fit. But I still miss the second department, which is quite small. And do you know what for? I want to put a food waste disposer and, if there was a second compartment, I would mount it there, all the "dirt" is in a small one, and a big one for "big things"

And do you know what for? I want to put a food waste disposer and, if there was a second compartment, I would mount it there, all the "dirt" is in a small one, and a big one for "big things"

Yes Yes Yes! most often it is mounted there. I just have other plans, I have a private house and I don’t have land as such, in terms of soil, I have solid stones .. in short, I will dispose of food waste by decomposition into useful soil, somehow grow the food and greens, at the moment everything is bare , some stones.
Girls and boys, my husband put together the first top drawer this morning.I quickly assembled a large pile of small parts on the floor, I did not expect anything else, to my surprise I said * I collected according to the instructions * And you say .. Everything must be controlled

[Gypsy]

Gypsy, be sure to control, there should be nothing superfluous if you collected it according to the instructions ...
This is "innovation", then it will come out sideways, you will also have to sort it out ...

And I myself want a sink, not only that it is double, but also drains on both sides so that there are ..., but I saw this only corner and then for me the sinks are not deep enough, but I need one more to be sufficient so that you can rinse the airfryer bowl it was as it is now (single with a drainer on one side). And I need a second sink, because I don’t like to rinse my hands from above in the sink, and many people in our house love to leave something in the sink, but I rinse my hands all the time ..

[obgorka_gu]

obgorka_gu, such?

or this?

This is "innovation", then it will come out sideways, you will also have to sort it out ...

Duc, went through

By the way, the whole frame is made of chipboard, no MDF .. but there is no way back, the money has been consolidated. But the boxes and the general appearance of the kitchen will be as you want. You come to local firms and begin to simplify cabinets to a terrible state, otherwise the kitchen pours out into mad dough.

I also thought that I would put something in it to drain. I even bought the same colander in Ikea. I do not use it. Yesterday I talked with a friend, she also has a double one, does not use it. He says he needs one big one. According to my observations, those who do not really want it, those who have it do not use it.)))))
If you really want a double, then it's probably better that the big one is bigger, and the small one is smaller.
The shredder did not fit on a small one, he is very pot-bellied, he did not fit. They bet on the big one.

According to my observations, those who do not really want it, those who have it do not use it.)))))

It may very well be ..
What a sink! They sell inexpensively for such a fancy one, but the dimensions of 100x50 cm do not fit me.

[obgorka_gu]

obgorka_gu, such?

This one is certainly cute, but it's a lot of sinks - and I also need drains. And for the second one, a gang of dishwashers will have to be ordered, in addition!
I think this one most accurately reflects my desire, only it seems like a large sink is too small

and even better that such but straight, not angular

And I have such a sink made of porcelain stoneware



When I bought it, I thought it was expensive and I clearly overpay, but today (after 3 years of intensive use) I am convinced of the correctness of the choice. Highly recommend

[obgorka_gu]

obgorka_gu, almost showed mine. By the way, I use the second bowl regularly, now I could not do with a sink with one bowl.

By the way, I use the second bowl regularly, now I could not do with a sink with one bowl.

When I visited the first kitchen maker, I mentioned a double sink, and he told me * why do you need a double sink, are you datish (religious)? * Gyy men, even kitchen masters, do not understand why a woman needs a second sink

It turned out to be not so simple with Ikeevskaya cuisine. Maybe someone will come in handy, in the sense they will be warned.
Large boxes gathered neatly and evenly, and small ones turned out to be jam-packed. Because of this kosyachnost, problems arose on the wall, when they began to hang the entire structure, it is simply impossible to achieve ideal density, because the kosyachny small boxes are planned in the middle. Plus, the wall turned out to be curved concave towards the ceiling ... and oh, horror, our ceiling turns out to be oblique, which we did not notice before without cabinets
The top row is not completely screwed on, the battery in the drill has sat down and we wanted to sleep, we stretch the pleasure

In sclerosis, I forgot to write, the boxes, when assembling, must be checked with a square and adjusted to 90 degrees, in extreme cases, with a tape measure along the diagonals ...

Pack and how to adjust them if everything is already drilled in the boards and all sorts of sticks / pieces of iron are inserted? There the cut is not clear. Jamb went on the line and sawed a large batch of jamb boxes. The back wall had to be pushed in with a hammer.

Wood, chipboard, which is good, which allows you to fit, a couple of millimeters, and this is already enough. The back wall, you can also adjust the angle, you shouldn't have hammered them in ...

Damn, Pakat, thanks for reminding me about this link! It’s probably not too late, we need to fasten the cabinets together .. I suggested it to my husband, but he * doesn’t need it * .. but it turns out that technology is even necessary. I really offered to drill in the middle of the sidewalls, but apparently there are already holes for this case.

By the way, there is nothing about this in the instructions.