Countryman
Quote: dopleta

There, of course, there is also chlorine, but not in the same concentration as in Whiteness.

But a couple of years ago I washed the white, but dirty and yellowed plastic front panel of the transistor radio "Meridian", produced in 1970, with Whiteness a couple of years ago to "almost snow".
I bought it a long time ago from the second construction brigade of virgin lands. Then the following construction brigades and "shabashki", army lieutenant service and countless holidays-fishing passed with me. Keeping working capacity for more than forty years, with the only (my own-I can) repair.
I did not even expect that his appearance would be so noticeably "cultivated"
Gypsy
Quote: TaTa *

husky
I wash stains from tea, coffee and berries with whiteness. I wet the sponge, wiped the sink and rinsed it off with water - that's it!
That is why, having got into the first time, after 7 apartments with stone and ceramic sinks, I decided for myself - only stainless steel! I'm already tired of sniffing chlorine And I wanted to sneeze on these drops, there is no obvious dirt and okay. No mold and good. But my usual dishwashing soap, and no dark stains, once it's ready and you can drop the dishes
Gypsy
Quote: Sens

all the same, you should have seen the Ikeevsky kitchens ...
+1 here it came out cheaper than in kitchen workshops, and much more modern for the money. She typed what she wanted, everything opens and closes by itself.
Tanyusha
a gypsy, and I, on the contrary, after 11 years with a stainless steel sink, changed it with pleasure and do not regret it. I have no problems with washing, the usual Cif cream.
TaTa *
It is easy to change the concentration of Whiteness with water; you can simply draw water into the sink and add Whiteness. I have Blanco sink for over a year so far ok
Lala Toy
Quote: Tanyusha

... Two years ago, when they were doing repairs in the kitchen, I replaced the sink and the tap with Polygran and I am very happy. These are my sink and mixer.

Furniture for kitchen

I have such a mixer, I hate it, I dream of changing it.
My sink is deep and I don't know why, but everything around me is splattered with water.
You have to lay tea towels around the faucet.
Gypsy
You need to buy a faucet extension cord and you don't have to buy a new faucet is inexpensive.
Lala Toy
Gypsyhow does this device look like? I have such a device

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only it doesn't help much.
Countryman
Lala Toy As a temporary measure, I recommend trying to put a sponge on the bottom of the sink. Or a piece of foam rubber of a suitable size. If possible in the area where the jet falls. It helps. Only now you have to wash it often. It gets dirty very quickly. Therefore, and only temporarily.
Leska
Try "SANITA spray 1 MINUTE" - a wonderful remedy for everything !!! - cleans furniture, stove, sink quickly, efficiently, almost odorless and cheap.
Julia V
I, too, are constantly splashing and the entire countertop is wet around the sink, it's good that there is a dishwasher and you don't have to wash the dishes often. I am also terribly annoyed by the round sink, before we had a square one, and for me it is more convenient. And my husband bought such a gadget on the faucet, so that it wouldn't splash so much, the faucet itself is screwed on, you turn it in a stream, turn it in the other direction - it kind of pours like a little soul, and the water doesn't hit and splash so hard.
lega
Quote: Lala Toy

I have such a mixer, I hate it, I dream of changing it.
My sink is deep and I don't know why, but everything around me is splattered with water.
You have to lay tea towels around the faucet.

Quote: gypsy

You need to buy a faucet extension cord and you don't have to buy a new faucet is inexpensive.

It looks like this:

Furniture for kitchen

I also had a problem when I put a tap with a high spout. I solved it with such a nozzle on the tap, I have been using it for a year and am happy. I wrote about it here

Here on the internet you can see:
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Julia V
Here I was as small as on your link, sorry it broke quickly, the plastic circle burst. But the weight is convenient, now I can't buy it anywhere.
Gypsy
Quote: lga

It looks like this:

Furniture for kitchen
Exactly, we have all kinds of sold .. there are sooo even simple ones for 3 kopecks in shekel stores finally like a tube, I hung this in rented apartments in the bathroom and in the kitchen.
Lala Toy
lega thanks, I will look.
By the way, I just went to a lady I know, she has the same mixing kitchen,
asked "Splashes?" the answer is "How! I got everything wet!"
I quietly rejoiced, it means that I am not the only one.
Lyi
Azaza, husky, Tanyusha, SensThank you very much for your feedback!
It helped a lot! Today I went shopping again (now I have definitely traveled around everything) and still found the kitchen of modular sections.
It turns out quite recently that a Ukrainian supplier of modular furniture made its way to our market. I liked one (only) of the presented samples.
I came home, sketched a diagram. It turned out wow! : o I'm afraid that I will not fit into the limit. It's a pity that I didn't write out the prices for all the samples presented and now I can't calculate.
It turned out the bottom of the letter P, where the legs: left-1.5m floor cabinets + 0.9 m stove, right-2.3m floor cabinets + 0.6m refrigerator, and the crossbar of the letter P-already 4.4m floor cabinets, but reduced the number of cabinets upper. I made the upper cabinets only along the legs of the letter P with a small 0.65 m entry of the corner cabinet, in the middle of the crossbar of the letter P there is a break for the window and the split system. They promised me solid countertops, except for the corner ones. Glad, although the corners will also break the harmony.
I will do the sink in a corner table, it is as much as 0.9m by 0.9m, there is room to swing.
There is also a drawback (where can we go without them?).
The depth of the tables (lower cabinets) is 50 cm, in contrast to the standard 60 cm. Scales in the back of the head, I don’t know how it will affect the desktop, where I sculpt, cut, stack, etc. Although my pots fit well. In addition, I have a standard 60 cm plate. There is no straight line, this is worse.
Now, as always, your advice is needed:
1. I asked to replace the matte-colored countertop with a convex strip structure (I'm afraid that it will be difficult to wash) with a gloss of dark tones. Phoned the supplier, allowed. Now doubts take me, but do I need it?
2. A base cabinet 80 cm wide is made in the form of 2 cross boxes in the middle 50x50 and 2 vertical boxes for bottles at the edges 15x-50. I will need 3 pieces of such 80 cm floor boxes. Hence the question: will I need 6 vertical bottle crates?
One for grows oils, vinegar, spices. The second is for detergents, etc. And the rest? The supplier promised to think about it, but it seems like he is inclined to agree and make just 2 transverse boxes for the entire 80 cm.
Your opinion; leave it as it is or insist on a replacement?
3. The main question is about the color of this sample.
1st option. The bottom is a pleasant light green color, the top is yellowish-beige, also a pleasant color, and almost completely coincides with my walls, I'm afraid that it will even merge with them.
The second option is very unusual. Chameleon color that changes with light.
Bottom-changing color sparkling violet, ink, brown. the black.
The top is also a chameleon. I would call it sparkling pinkish, closer to the color of fresh, with silver.
The colors are very beautiful and unusual.
It is the sparkle that confuses, will the New Year tree work? Standing in the cabin was just deeply dark with overflows, but when the box was brought to the exit into the sun, it literally flashed.
And the pink color is embarrassing, won't it put pressure on the psyche? How are the owners of red kitchens? And then it seems to me pinkish with silver will not go well with my beige and yellow walls. Upper cabinets can be replaced with beige ones from light green bottom. Is it worth doing?
I'm waiting for advice on Friday morning I'll go to draw up an agreement, pay an advance. Then nothing can be changed.
azaza
Lyido not worry about the depth of the base cabinets. 50 cm is quite enough, and there will be no damage to the work surface - the worktop is standard, 60 cm!
About the side pull-out shelves for bottles. Isn't it possible to make one cabinet without these sides, in the second - one, and the third is already standard, with two sides? The bottles can be collected on two shelves. And if that - adapt under the covers. Before ordering drawers with drawers, think about where what will stand, whether something will interfere with the opening of these drawers. And then I almost ordered myself a headache, I figured it out in time.
It is very difficult to advise about the color without seeing the options. In any case, pinkish is difficult to equate with red, and I don't understand why it should strain over time? If the color is pinkish, and not marshmallow-sugary, then it should go well with the beige-yellow walls. Light green bottom is great, but how will it go with beige? Or yellowish-beige - closer to orange?
lega
Quote: Lyi

They promised me solid countertops, except for the corner ones. Glad, although the corners will also break the harmony.
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Now, as always, your advice is needed:
1. I asked to replace the matte-colored countertop with a convex strip structure (I'm afraid that it will be difficult to wash) with a gloss of dark tones. Phoned the supplier, allowed. Now doubts take me, but do I need it?

Be sure to check - are the countertops moisture resistant? (moisture resistant inside green) Now in terms of the thickness of the countertops .. as a rule, there are standard thicknesses of -38mm and 28mm. If the countertop is 38mm (namely, they are usually moisture resistant), then it may turn out that the level of the freestanding plate will be lower than the height of the lower cabinets. And if the countertop is non-moisture resistant, then you need to use it VERY carefully, otherwise it will quickly swell in the area of ​​\ u200b \ u200bthe sink.

The other day we ordered a kitchen to a friend ... it was precisely because of the different heights of the countertops that she had to abandon her very decent separate stove in favor of a mortise hob.

The glossy countertop scratches quickly (the designers in the showrooms do not even hide this), so you have to decide how much you want it. Personally, I would not take a glossy one, and rough ones wash well.

3. The main question is about the color of this sample.
1st option. The bottom is a pleasant light green color, the top is yellowish-beige, also a pleasant color, and almost completely coincides with my walls, I'm afraid that it will even merge with them.
What material are the facades made of? Painted? Film? Laminate? It is important!!!
I think that there is no need to be afraid of the coincidence of the color of the walls and the upper facades. It may even be good - it will optically expand the space.

azaza
Quote: TaTa *

The height of the countertop and the height of the slab are aligned with a frame of the required thickness under the slab, my friends do this
We have furniture cabinets under one tabletop, an electric stove (which is below them), and a freezer that is above the cabinets. Everything aligns perfectly! First, the legs of the furniture are twisted in one direction or another. Well, secondly, you can put cardboard or a piece of laminate or anything else solid flat. This is just the least of the problems.
I forgot to mention the countertop. I have a matte, very, very small scar. In appearance, it may be inferior to glossy, but nothing is visible on it! The neighbor has the same color tabletop, but glossy. For four years she was killed in the trash. Of course, it's too early to talk about mine, I've only been using it for two months. But here's what is significant. We made two large cutting boards from the piece cut out for the sink. We cut them with ordinary knives (not stupid, I must say), and bread, with teeth. We cut, of course, every day and not once. So far, I have not found a single scratch. However, I do not dare to cut on the countertop itself.
makabusha
From all that I have read, I can only say about 2 nuances:
- I have a black sink made of composite material, white stains from dried water are visible on it;
- kitchen drawers are also 50 cm deep, and the countertop is 60 cm deep (the drawers are not under the wall itself, since there is a gas pipe), everything is convenient, there is a lot of space on the desktop, there is also enough depth in the drawers. The only negative is that I cannot put my dream in this line - a dishwasher, they are all 60 cm deep.
Lyi
To all who responded, Thank you so much!
Took note of the roughness of the countertop, and about the materials and other tips. Yesterday my Internet was junk, I could not write. Very useful tips.
Today in the morning I'm going to finally decide whether to take and arrange. Then I will unsubscribe. Upset. Shiri on the countertops 50 cm, and the drawers are even smaller.
But there are no other options, there is the first one, but I already like this one more. And in one place it burns, already unbearable.
It is a pity that yesterday we were not able to communicate, the law of meanness in action, when the Internet is really needed, it disappears.
Quote: Keti

Lyi, you are very interested in chameleon kitchens. And what kind of Ukrainian supplier is this? Can you throw off the link and we'll take a look at their website?
Keti,If earlier the manager told me that the delivery time from the supplier would take longer, since the furniture comes from Ukraine, then after my request for the site, he began to say that I misunderstood him and the furniture produced by Krasnodar Pharaoh-Yug. I found a site on them only from the tax office with their details and that's it. If you can find it, drop me the link too.
I think that all the same furniture is from Ukraine, but they carry them out as contractors, that is, suppliers of component parts due to customs.
Wiki
I had a 50x50 stove, and the kitchen has a standard countertop - 60. They put an insert from a piece of countertop behind the stove - everything was fine. The gas pipe was behind the stove.
Then the moment came when a new stove was needed. With an electric oven and all the bells and whistles at a depth of 50 cm - were not found. I had to buy a 60 cm one. Due to the pipe, the stove now protrudes 4 cm in relation to the tables. It bothers me very much, it was a completely different look when everything was in a line. Now my husband has no time, so I endure it, but we will certainly remake the pipe so that it is at the work table, and not behind the stove, then the stove will be level with the entire kitchen.
And you have a table top - 50, the bottom, probably 46 cm in general? The table top has an overhang in front. This is almost 15 cm.The stove will stick out ...
Lyi
Phew! I wound up today!
I ordered it all the same!
I ordered chameleon colors, left the table top matte, non-glossy (thanks for the tip). The top also left a pinkish mother-of-pearl with silver. At first, it was completely decided to make the top beige, but when I put the upper cabinet on the lower table, a dissonance immediately appeared. In the upper cabinets, open shelves are provided, which are combined with the worktop in the dark version, and in the beige version they are white, which immediately hurts the eye if the bottom is dark.
Suggest what you can think of to disguise the stove and refrigerator that slide forward (the difference is 50 and 60 cm). In principle, they are arranged symmetrically. Maybe it won't hurt your eyes?
They are located at the ends of the legs of the letter P, on the right is the refrigerator, on the left is the stove.
Well, I could not refuse this furniture, it’s too painful for you to paint everything beautifully here. And after repairing the kitchen, my work wall was destroyed and I knocked around and could not stand it. The money was set aside for the repair of the rooms, so far only the kitchen has been repaired, the rest is awaiting repair. Now how much longer will have to wait.
Need more tips:
1. What kind of hood to buy. I don't want to put the old one. My stove is 90 cm long (5 burners), I think so, and a hood is needed 90 cm. What companies are good or what should be avoided, what to look for.
2. While climbing the shops I saw a glass table like a dining room on massive metal legs. Looks pretty good. I have had a table with a glass top in the hall for more than 20 years, there were no problems. The son has a computer desk with a glass top. Looks great.
And in the kitchen?
I suppose to put it near the remaining free wall, there is almost 4 meters, I am not going to move it.
But I can easily put a hot pot of cartoons. They say that the glass is tempered, you can even see it. But will it withstand all my perversions?
Your opinion?
Kamusik
I think it will not be practical. Moreover, if he is in the kitchen, then by itself, the table is such as the countertop! You can easily make it yourself by purchasing the necessary piece of table top, edging and legs!
dopleta
Quote: Lyi

While climbing the shops I saw a glass table like a dining room on massive metal legs. Looks pretty good.
And in the kitchen?
I have a glass sliding table in the kitchen with massive metal legs. I love him very much, although when I bought with my husband I quarreled to smithereens - he loves everything wooden (yachtsman, mlyn!). A glass countertop, in my opinion, in contrast to a wooden one, visually expands the space of the kitchen.
Kamusik
Another question, in which zone should this table stand and for what purposes? If this is a work area and a table is used for cooking, hot pots, etc., then glass, IMHO. And if it is purely dining, then why not? So with me, but, all the same, you need to think of something about the coating, after a while it has a completely unattractive appearance from any scratches.
dopleta
Quote: Kamusik

And if it is purely dining, then why not?
I have a purely dining room. The glass is frosted, in harmony with the glazed, also frosted doors of the wall cabinets. And so that it was not cold to the hands, and nothing tinkled, specially in Holland (I have not seen so suitable in our country) matte, translucent, with patterns like frosty substrates for plates were bought.
14anna08
Quote: dopleta

I have a purely dining room. The glass is frosted, in harmony with the glazed, also frosted doors of the wall cabinets. And so that it was not cold to the hands, and nothing tinkled, specially in Holland (I have not seen so suitable in our country) matte, translucent, with patterns like frosty substrates for plates were bought.
I fantasized how awesome it was ...
Scarlett
Quote: Lyi


Need more tips:
1. What kind of hood to buy. I don't want to put the old one. My stove is 90 cm long (5 burners), I think so, and a hood is needed 90 cm. What companies are good or what should be avoided, what to look for.
Lyi, when I chose the hood for myself, I read this: the size does not have to correspond to the size of the stove - this is not critical if the difference is 10 cm. The main thing is power. I ordered the surface and the oven on the Internet - I don't know about you, but we have a significant difference, but I went to the store to feel it in real life. So, I was offered the same extractor hood for Gorenje. There is no doubt - it looks very beautiful - but here I consulted consultants and advised that a good hood should hold an A4 sheet "in flight" at 2 speeds "You should have seen their faces! It is this indicator that is the main thing for the hood, and not at all. size! I ended up buying myself a "telescope", I don't remember the company, I can't say anything yet - we don't use the kitchen yet, but the move is not far off! Yes, and also, if you take it in the store, listen to what sound it works with - in my old apartment she roars like a mad elephant, it's easier for me to open a window than to listen to THIS!
lega
Quote: Scarlett

Lyi, when I chose the hood for myself, I read this: the size does not have to correspond to the size of the stove - this is not critical if the difference is 10 cm. The main thing is power. I ordered the surface and the oven on the Internet - I don't know about you, but we have a significant difference, but I went to the store to feel it in real life. So, I was offered the same hood in the Gorene kit. There is no doubt - it looks very beautiful - but here I consulted consultants and advised that a good hood should hold an A4 sheet "in flight" at 2 speeds "You should have seen their faces! It is this indicator that is the main thing for the hood, and not at all. size! As a result, I bought myself a "telescope", I don't remember the company, I can't say anything yet - we don't use the kitchen yet, but the move is not far off! Yes, and also, if you take it in the store, listen to what sound it works with - in my old apartment she roars like a mad elephant, it's easier for me to open a window than to listen to THIS!

I disagree.
1) It is desirable that the catching screen overlap the slab. If the stove is 90, then the hood needs to be taken 90. I have a stove of 60, and the hood is 90 (the hood itself is 60, and the glass screen is 90).
2) Holds A4 sheet at first speed.
3) There is nothing to listen to the sound in the store.Because it's not the engine that roars, but the air in the channels. In stores, they are not connected to ventilation, so the sound is quiet. The higher the speed, the louder it roars.

I do not write my own brand of hoods, because it is not the most popular.
Lyi
dopleta, gypsy, Kamusik, Lga, Scarlett, girls, thanks a lot for the tips!
I understood everything from the glass table.dopleta, but have not you ever carried out a test for hot, cold?
I will think, most likely, that I will buy, since the table is supposed to be for dining only.
As for the hood, I understood thanks, I will take at least 90 cm, but who has what noise level? Now the noise level is indicated for each model. Which one can be considered quiet?
In the internet, each model has a noise level of different options 38.44, etc.
And what are yours?
which firms are good? Which is better flat or tall? Or it doesn't matter, etc.
k.alena
I am of the opinion that if a firm specializes in one thing, then they do it well. Therefore, the hoods are quite good from the firms Elica and Cata (these are quite humane for the price).
Personally, I chose in appearance, so that I liked it and then everything else, because there are now an infinite number of them with the same parameters.
About the power.
Quote: lga

There is nothing to listen to the sound in the store. Because it's not the engine that roars, but the air in the channels. In stores, they are not connected to ventilation, so the sound is quiet. The higher the speed, the louder it roars
I totally agree. In addition, vent. channels in the overwhelming majority of our homes are not designed to connect hoods to them. Therefore, their throughput simply does not allow pushing the volume of air that the hood wants at maximum speeds. That is, she will try, howl brutally, but there is no effect. Anything above the 2nd speed practically does not work (I once read an interesting study on this topic with measurements of the volume of exhaust air). Even in this article, it was advised not to completely block the opening of the ventilation duct with the outlet from the hood, but to put a special double grate there: a pipe from the hood is put on one part, and the second is a grate with a valve that does not allow air from the duct to return to the kitchen (by the way, it is it's quite a bit). This is necessary in order not to block completely natural ventilation, since the hood removes only air below its level, and the rest is collected under the ceiling. Unfortunately, I didn’t do this for myself, because I found out all this after the renovation.
Another moment. Often there is recirculation in the hoods - that is, the exhaust air passes through the filter and returns back to the kitchen. Such a hood may not be connected to the duct. But this is an extreme case, it is better not to do this if it is possible to connect. And at the same time (if such a function is declared in your hood) immediately remove and discard the charcoal filter, since it greatly complicates the operation of the hood, and if there is an air outlet, then it is not needed at all.
Julia V
So I wanted a glass dining table in the kitchen, my husband and I went to the local shops to ask the price. Such a nice table, another shelf under the top glass and folds out on the sides in a round, but the price is 3400 UAH, for us it is expensive. Slightly simpler was not available, but the seller said that prices start from 2500 and above. Now again in thought, I want it not expensive, high quality and to please.
Taia
We bought a glass table made. China for about 1250 hryvnia. They also went - went to all the shops - very expensive, and then they found it in one of the shops. We tried to put 2 different tables in the kitchen, one traditional and the other glass. With a glass table, the kitchen seems larger, weightless, looks much better. Almost like in this picture, I ripped it off from the Internet, only we have a rectangular table. On the bottom shelf I have a vase of sweets and cookies. And a scale for a bread machine, flat, small. Very comfortably.
Furniture for kitchen
Julia V
For such a price you can afford it, especially since we have a new kitchen, the floor is marbled tiles, and we want iron chairs, just everything would fit.They offered us to make a table to order, but the glass there is not tempered. My husband and I will go to Simferopol and ask the price. By the way, maybe someone knows shops or a base where you can buy cheaper.
Taia
We have tiles on the floor, and we bought chairs there, also of the type made of stainless steel. There is thick glass on the table and the edge is obviously processed on specials. equipment, first beveled, then rounded. I don't believe in a high-quality table-to-order, it will look cheap, IMHO.
Julia V
Yes, I also don't really want to order, although our godfather makes furniture. And when you buy in a store, you already see what you are taking, and when you order it, the appearance of the furniture may be a surprise. I imagined my kitchen completely differently than what it turned out to be in the end. I'll look for a cheaper glass table.
julifera
Quote: Julia V

Yes, I also don't really want to order, although our godfather makes furniture. And when you buy in a store, you already see what you are taking, and when you order it, the appearance of the furniture may be a surprise. I imagined my kitchen completely differently than what it turned out to be in the end.

And what made you "happy"? what turned out to be wrong?

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Outwardly, everything is exactly what I have, but not everything is neat in the bins, as if tolerant, but not very pleasant, in short, the collectors obviously did not suffer from particular scrupulousness
I was surprised that in the pull-out large cabinets - the bottom was almost made of cardboard, that is, fiberboard was attached there
You can't force it to be redone on chipboard, since I did not know what they could do and they did not describe it in the contract,
but now they have one answer: - "I have the same boxes at home - and everything is fine - they say, don't worry."
It may hold a mountain of casters, but clay pots cannot be put there.
So for this little thing - pay attention if that.
Julia V
As for the quality, everything is ok, our godfather does and does it with high quality. BUT, the facades are then frame, and it begins - the frames are one shade, the inserts are another, the chipboard is the third. And the kitchen, the location and size of the cabinets, I kind of developed myself. The color was chosen - cherry, like mahogany, and the frames and inserts, my condition was that the facades were not two-colored. And so my husband and godfather went for the material, and it turned out that there are Cherry-colored frames, but there are no inserts. And my faithful, instead of calling me, chose a different color, he decided that the combination was decent, he eats, but he generally forgot to tell me about this incident. And when the finished facades were brought to us, I was, to put it mildly, in shock, and then, when they were installed, I drank a glass of wine in one gulp, although in fact I do not abuse it. But now I'm used to it and everything is fine. I just imagined one in color, but it turned out differently. Then my husband took out a long time
Julia V
And the godfather's brain also endured. We bought some handles, and when they were screwed on, it turned out that they did not look good. So he agreed to hand them over, and brought 5 types of pens and screwed them in. Et so that I can decide which one is prettier and more convenient to capture.
annnushka27
We also made a kitchen to order, ready-made and would not buy, would not fit, the house is private. There were a lot of surprises too. And they got upset and swore and altered, as I remember, I shudder. When we did it, 4 years ago, we did not have the Internet, we had nowhere to consult, we had nowhere to choose. And they didn’t do it, as we would like, but I’ve got used to it, I even like it. New people come in, everyone likes it. After the kitchen to order, I'm already afraid to do it, to be honest.
Lyi
Quote: k.alena

I am of the opinion that if a firm specializes in one thing, then they do it well. Therefore, the hoods are quite good from the firms Elica and Cata (these are quite humane for the price).
Personally, I chose by appearance, so that I liked it and then everything else, because there are now an infinite number of them with the same parameters.
it was advised not to completely block the ventilation duct opening by means of the outlet from the hood, but to put a special double grate there: a pipe from the hood is put on one part, and the second is a grate with a valve that does not allow air from the duct to return to the kitchen (by the way, it costs quite a bit) ...This is necessary in order not to block completely natural ventilation, since the hood removes only air below its level, and the rest is collected under the ceiling. Unfortunately, I didn’t do this for myself, because I found out all this after the renovation.
Another moment. Often there is recirculation in the hoods - that is, the exhaust air flows through the filter and returns back to the kitchen. Such a hood may not be connected to the duct. But this is an extreme case, it is better not to do this if it is possible to connect. And at the same time (if such a function is declared in your hood), immediately remove and discard the charcoal filter, since it greatly complicates the operation of the hood, and if there is an air outlet, then it is not needed at all.
k.alena , did not quite understand about the double lattice. Where are they sold, if possible a sample from the Internet and in general in more detail.
I have my own house, an outlet through a chimney to the roof, but, of course, I don’t want all the dust from this chimney to fly into the kitchen.
Now I'm going to look for CATA samples.
But why did no one write about the noise level in db, how much should the maximum be?
Girls, thanks to everyone who responded!
k.alena
The grille looks something like this
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An exhaust hood is connected to the upper hole, and the lower one for natural ventilation. Unfortunately, I did not find a picture of the valve, but this is a banal plastic behind the bars, which does not allow air from the mine to return to the kitchen. You just have to ask where they are sold.
matroskin_kot
Lyudmilka, congratulations on the new kitchen, sunshine !!! I don't have a very good relationship with glass tables, maybe because there are a lot of people, but he was always "wounded". I wiped it from morning until night. And then, he exploded, or rather, cracked ... In the middle of the night, the children himself watched the "horror movie", and then - this ... My son almost turned gray ....
If it is glass, then it is of high quality, so that there are no problems. The hood I have is Chinese, the simplest, at an angle, as it were, not horizontal, glass surface - does not press "on the brain", does not interfere both visually and physically. With my steam cleaner, otherwise it is difficult to wash greasy glass. And grilles for hoods with different valves, there are many options. If you are in Krasnodar - in Leroy - this good is full. To tell the boys-consultants what they want, they will find and bring them.
Wiki
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If it is glass, then it is of high quality, so that there are no problems.

Glass has such a property - to explode. Of course, not everything explodes, but it happens.
You can protect yourself only by buying a glass product "triplex", it can also tear, but at least the film will not let the glass scatter into sharp fragments and injure.
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Lyi
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I don't have a very good relationship with glass tables, maybe because there are a lot of people, but he was always "wounded". I wiped it from morning until night. And then, he exploded, or rather, cracked ... In the middle of the night, the children himself watched the "horror movie", and then - this ... My son almost turned gray ....
If it is glass, then it is of high quality, so that there are no problems. The hood I have is Chinese, the simplest, at an angle, as it were, not horizontal, glass surface - does not press "on the brain", does not interfere both visually and physically.
Irochka, Matroskin Kitty, welcome!
This is what you puzzled me! I couldn't even think about explosions!
Why's that? Scratching in the back of my head, I think.
Ira, so I just also drew attention to a flat hood, located not horizontally, parallel to the stove, but at an angle, but it was embarrassing, how would it suck in the fumes from the pans if it was facing to the side? Is it sucking normally? I liked her.
nvk, k.alena, well, I just can't turn on! Why do I need this closing grille if my ventilation hole clearly matches the size of the corrugated pipe of the hood? Do you need it anyway?
Or am I thinking incorrectly and the cutout of the ventilation duct must include an exhaust pipe plus an air intake grill?
One of the hoods set aside for selection has a reversal. k.alena I wrote about it, but this is a + to the merits or a minus, I did not understand. Please clarify, plizz.
And one more thing, is it possible to order a hood through the Internet or failures are very frequent and it is better to buy an existing one in a store. Here are just those who are there I do not like.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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I just also drew attention to a flat hood, located not horizontally, parallel to the stove, but at an angle, but it was embarrassing, how would it suck in the fumes from the pans if it was facing to the side? Is it sucking normally? I liked her.

May I shake it in. I have such a 90 cm hood.
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Pulls out like a beast. Usually it works at 1 speed (there are 3 of them + turbo mode). But besides this, it is very pleasing to the eye and is not whimsical in leaving. I never regretted that I bought this at a higher price, and did not save on the hood.

Here you can see her, though not in full face
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lunova-moskalenko
Lyi. I am not your advisor. I just showed what a check valve for ventilation is. The fact is that in our house, each apartment has its own chimney for gas water heaters, plus 3 ventilation ducts and, if desired, there were still free channels. This is how our house was built 30 years ago. This is a 5-storey building. Since 2000, I have had my own heating and for the ventilation ducts my husband bought fans this year and completed everything with a check valve. Our housing estate has reconstructed the roof, it was flat, but now it has a hipped roof. So now in veteran canals in a strong wind, and we often have them, blows out all the smells of the neighbors. Grief builders violated the chimney system, it was not taken out correctly during the reconstruction of the roof. The neighbors are not eager to fight them, they say, what to do, boom to breathe, but I’m not getting high, either fried herring, or some other nasty stuff sucked into the kitchen. So my husband put in check valves because of this, so that when the wind blows everything back. Works great! I have a BOSCH 655U hood. That's it.
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k.alena
Even in this article, it was advised not to completely block the opening of the ventilation duct with the outlet from the hood, but to put a special double grate there: a pipe from the hood is put on one part, and the second is a grate with a valve that does not allow air from the duct to return to the kitchen (by the way, it is it's quite a bit). This is necessary in order not to block completely natural ventilation, since the hood removes only air below its level, and the rest is collected under the ceiling.
This is if one outlet to the ventilation duct and the hood completely blocks it. It completely covers me, but when the neighbors cook something, their powerful hood overturns the air flow and it "smells" from the hood. I turn on mine - the smell goes away.
Recirculation is neither "+" nor "-". If the selected hood has it and does not increase the cost, then everything is ok. Just remove the charcoal filter when installing. It's just a function that you don't need.

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