louisa
Quote: Scarecrow

It is recessed into the countertop, that is, there should be no drawer below it (or the back wall of the drawer). I saw them live, now I will find a photo and show it. There are several types of them, but I was interested in cylindrical ones.
I just imagined it, it's only embarrassing that you can't install a box under it, and if it's just a locker, it will stick out there ..... you have to think, the price is also such that you will think
Aunt Besya
I wanted-wanted-re-wanted. As soon as I felt it with my hands and saw how much useful space they take .. And then, these sockets are essentially a banal extension cord, below there is a wire with a plug and is stuck into some kind of outlet anyway. And this means that you still cannot include several energy-saving devices in it. And the price tags? Rosette of three posts from 2.5 to 12 thousand
Creamy
Girls, I was also interested in this retractable console. My curious mind always marveled when, in some detective story, an unauthorized detective kidnapped "docks" with the help of a sympathetic colleague from the archive-store. By rotating the three-bladed handle in the form of a steering wheel, whole huge blocks miraculously move and move apart and form a tunnel-path to the desired block. I think that this is the dream of all Plyushkin-Hamster of all times and peoples. Today I visited the websites of firms that supply trade, warehouse, banking and archival equipment. And I was convinced that they are based on one main principle - the rolling effect for moving a sufficiently large load. The structure is narrow, the support area is very small in relation to the size of the entire structure and, most importantly, to the mass of the structure with a working load. And this requires the creation of a very strong structure and extremely reliable fastening in two planes. The structure should only be metal (in the advertising photo I counted 68 cans. And half of them are glass. Calculate the weight of a liter can together with a container, and multiply by the number of cans. Only cans will weigh about 100 kg! And also the weight of the console itself with shelves and limiters from falling cans) The console moves on wheels along a special groove-rail, which is monolithically (tightly) fixed to your floor. There should also be a bump stop to prevent the console from going further through your kitchen. The console should not wiggle, and therefore it should, in the retracted position, at least half its depth, stand in a cramped "depot garage", which in turn should be firmly bolted to the wall between the refrigerator and the corner of the kitchen. But on the facade we can put a purely decorative strip with a handle in the color of your kitchen set. This is all great, but imagine, your neighbor from above has installed such a loaded console in her kitchen, won't you go crazy with such a "subway" from above? My opinion is a wonderful thing, but only in my house or only on the first floor. I would be glad to hear your reasoning.Creamy
matroskin_kot
And rubberized wheels will not work? And "rails" can be attached to something noise-absorbing ... Or not? I would also like such a cabinet ... In the pantry, for example, you don't poke around on the shelf, but put it out and took it ... Just how to move these 100 kg effortlessly so that it glides well ...
Creamy
Kitty matroskin, have you seen rubber tires near carriages on the railway? there the rails are lubricated with friction grease for better sliding. But the noise-absorbing substrate under the rail, if you think carefully and choose the right materials, I think that this is a completely solvable problem.
Svetta
Quote: Creamy

...Imagine, your neighbor from above has installed such a loaded console in her kitchen, won't you go crazy with such a "subway" from above? My opinion is a wonderful thing, but only in my house or only on the first floor. I would be glad to hear your reasoning.Creamy
Creamy, I totally agree! You described everything very accurately, I have a design education, so I understand well the essence of the problem. And to fence rubber wheels / guides / lubricants / ... and so on, etc. in an ordinary city apartment is impractical and unaesthetic. My neighbor downstairs hears me open the wardrobe! so I have an expensive anti-noise system. And then roll out such a rack! And try to pull out such a weight by the handle! Well, perhaps a rack with spices ...
Something like that.
matroskin_kot
Then buy a ready-made system ... with an electric drive and a monorail ... and a sturdy frame. And so that the calculated load was not less than 120 kg ... Or, at least, dream ...
lega
Quote: Creamy

This is all great, but imagine, your neighbor from above has installed such a loaded console in her kitchen, won't you go crazy with such a "subway" from above? My opinion is a wonderful thing, but only in my house or only on the first floor. I would be glad to hear your reasoning.Creamy

I totally agree. In addition, our furniture makers are unlikely to have such rails available. In our conditions, only the idea itself can be used, but in practice such a solution can be applied to light things, and more .. can be divided into several parts.
Examples:
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matroskin_kot
Well, on the last photo there is a rubberized wheel, only the shelves are not with cans. And I also thought that the banks are hot in such a close proximity to the refrigerator. And the idea with a perforated insert for scissors-hammers is super! I have ladles in the box. They take up a lot, but here
Gypsy
Mine is blowing at the bottom of the back .. We have, according to the plan, a plasterboard wall behind the refrigerator, so we have to make a ventilation window at the bottom .. well, such a plastic one with slats.
I won't be able to ferment yogurt with my fridge
Scarlett
Quote: matroskin_kot

I'm afraid that at the price that we have today, the overwhelming majority can only dream
Here Kitty is right! I recently ordered a kitchen for myself and wanted something like that - so the cost of 1 piece is almost 1/4 of the kitchen! I had to do without it - and so the kitchen of 6.5 squares cost 13,000 UAH!
dopleta
I just looked at the perforations for hanging ... I am sitting now in the country kitchen and looking at my wall. Just recently Osa asked me questions about this. This is how we came up with it - although it does not move anywhere, but for a summer residence it is very convenient

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Scarlett
Quote: Julia V

It also cost us about 13 thousand hours, and also the installation technique, and how many running meters you have, I got 4.5.
This is my owl with an insert-insert (in the sense, with work), I have all the appliances built in, and the appliances themselves in the kitchen cost more than $ 1000 - true, and with the dishwasher - my dream come true - I saved money for it for a year. Although, to be honest, I put it on a ring in a set for earrings,: girl_red: but I decided that the dishwasher was more important! The kitchen is 4 running meters, plus a wall cabinet on the opposite wall - above the refrigerator, otherwise I always have little bedside tables and plus a kitchen table.
Julia V
My equipment cost 10,000 UAH, all the pancakes are the most inexpensive, also with a dishwasher. Now we need a table with stools. the truth is we cannot decide in any way what is better to take, stools or chairs.
Creamy
Can I share my experience with dining group furniture? I have it partially sad. A very beautiful modern band - everything glitters and sparkles. The chrome-plated underframe is very beautiful, durable, comfortable in terms of maintaining its appearance. It is very convenient. The same beautiful chrome chairs were bought for this table. They look gorgeous. But the chairs already had a terrible flaw at home - when sitting down on a chair you lean your open shoulder against the metal chrome backrest, you seem to be pierced with an electric current (nothing to do with electrostatics!). In short, the purely metal backs of the chairs are uncomfortable, although very beautiful and durable, they are very cold, it is unpleasant to touch them, especially by accident, with open parts of the body (for example, in a sleeveless dress or in a tank top). And now these beautiful chairs are often covered with a thick blanket, shawl, or just a tea towel.And where is all this beauty for which they were bought? Now I plan to sew on them removable covers with snakes, buttons or Velcro tape. The fabric has already been purchased, finished, I make edging for seams. I will sew. And then I will forever wash. Eh! If someone had told me about this before, I would have chosen chairs with a warm back - wood, plastic or upholstered. Creamy
Julia V
And my mother's chairs are wooden, but I don't really like them, some are bulky
Gypsy
the same can be said about the sewing / metal tables .. they are also cold for the hands and clatter, clink from the plates, although they wash well.
matroskin_kot
My chairs are wooden, heavy, but strong. I wash the seat cushions every week. I looked at them a week ago with longing, I need to change them soon, because for all their strength and durability, some are worn out ... And the covers are not for my family, like glass tabletops. Here they managed to kill the oak tree - and there are no extreme ones ...
Scarlett
Quote: Julia V

My equipment cost 10,000 UAH, all pancakes are the cheapest, also with a dishwasher. Now we also need a table with stools. the truth is we cannot decide in any way what is better to take, stools or chairs.
Here I am in thought - where and what to buy. I only know for sure that I need at least one comfortable chair in the kitchen - just this one .... Well, stools by itself. Girls, we can, who will throw a link - where can you buy this in Ukraine?
dopleta
Quote: gypsy

the same can be said about the sewing / metal tables .. they are also cold for the hands and clatter, clink from the plates, although they wash well.
... I also have chrome underframes and chairs and a glass sliding table, but to
Quote: Creamy

like it shocks you
- I did not notice this. Perhaps it all depends on the room temperature?
julifera
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makabusha
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IRR
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that's for sure, not practical, it's hard to wash - these hoses, etc.

As for the white, I put the white tiles in the bath and while they were putting in doubts, it was too sterile, and then I thought, I’m hanging towels, I’ll instruct you on any and balance the space. I have it small - with bright tiles will rip out your eyes.

listen, we have such a rich topic - I am studying the third day from the bushes (links useful mulion, everyone)
Luysia
Quote: IRR


As for the white, I put the white tiles in the bath and while they were putting in doubts, it was too sterile, and then I thought, I’m hanging towels, I’ll instruct you about anything and balance the space. I have it small - with bright tiles will rip out your eyes.

That's about white tiles - it's very interesting. Dad has white tiles in his stash, finally getting ready to make repairs in the bathroom. So I also doubt very much ... Should I buy him a colored one, or let them put in a white one?

IRR, Then you will arrange the little bubbles and settle down a little, tell and show, okay?
lega
I understand that this is for storing the cork ...
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is it a whetstone?

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And what's that? next to the outlet ... What thoughts on this topic?

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Svetta
Quote: Luysia

The white tiles are very interesting. Dad has white tiles in his stash, finally getting ready to make repairs in the bathroom. So I also doubt very much ... Should I buy him a colored one, or let them put in a white one?
Our friends put white high-quality tiles and diluted it with exactly the same multi-colored, just in an artistic-chaotic manner they put 1-2-3 different bright colors, now in a row, now in a column, now in a chessboard. It turned out very elegant and fun!
And they put it this way because the tiles were bought at the sale in the leftovers, multi-colored well, very cheap, that's what came up.
Creamy
Luysia, I laid out the tiles myself 8 (eight) times. Everywhere - in kitchens, bathrooms, toilets, even in the winter garden. Well, I mean, of course, it was not I who laid the tiles on the walls myself, but the craftsmen hired by me. I have already gained some experience. So that you do not make a mistake with the choice and method of laying, I advise you to study the vast experience, not always successful on the forum "Sibmama"section"home and family", subsection"Renovation and interior", subject" I wouldn't do that anymore.It makes sense to study other people's mistakes, very informative.Creamy
Luysia
Thank you, I read it. Although I have more than one repair in the anamnesis. There is experience, I even stripped off the freshly laid tiles myself after the masters left. Well, where, in my opinion, they did wrong. Nothing, they came in the morning to continue and did not even resent and redo it.
julifera
Quote: Luysia

... I even ripped off the freshly laid tiles myself after the masters left. Well, where, in my opinion, they did wrong. Nothing, they came in the morning to continue and did not even resent and redo it.

I was doing just this a couple of days ago, but my heart could not stand such would-be masters, they no longer had any next morning in my apartment
Luysia
Mine did everything fine, and in one corner they cheated in the evening. So I peeled everything off until it dried up, cleaned the tiles and did not squeak.

And the battery of plumbers-welders was altering too, well, they forgot, they didn't see a strip of red marker thickened into the finger on the wall, where the battery should end. Once asked, and you like, do you care? Well, I explained that I care if the kitchen drawers don't open completely. We went to the market ourselves, bought new fittings, and digested it.
lunova-moskalenko
I want an apron from the one in the top right corner.
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Or here's another option. Current is shown here in the bathroom, and I want to use it for an apron.
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lega
Quote: nvk

I want an apron from the one in the top right corner.

Think about the kitchen apron mosaic five times. The seams .. they get dirty in the first place, they get saturated with grease ... And there are too many seams on the mosaic.
Gypsy
I liked the light green, the emerald is gloomy .. but depending on what kind of furniture and countertop, maybe the furniture is lighter or finally everything looks like it all together.

About fat, if you do not eat fatty and fried, then there is no such dirt, these are my observations
Pilgrim73
I have a shower room laid out with such a mosaic in my dacha, you will be tortured to wash. The mosaic is blue, and the seams were white, now they are dirty yellow and they can't be washed. Now she wanted an apron from a mosaic to the kitchen, only a smooth tile with a steamer once walked and wiped it off with a rag
Scarlett
Quote: Pilgrim73

I have a shower room laid out with such a mosaic in my dacha, you will be tortured to wash. The mosaic is blue, and the seams were white, now they are dirty yellow and can't be washed. Now the mosaic apron has gone to the kitchen, only the smooth tile with a parosik once walked and wiped it off with a rag
I, too, raved about a mosaic apron in the new kitchen and, for the same reasons, abandoned the idea, although I liked it! Now we have a tile
called "Some kind of Roman" there is a large tile painted "like a mosaic", but her colors are of some kind
lunova-moskalenko
Thanks to all! I like the emerald one and it fits under the emerging countertop. I did not think to make the grout white, the current to match the tone. But we have not yet decided on the apron. Maybe glass. We're in the process ...
Gypsy
I don’t know .. probably we’re eating something wrong. I haven’t had any tiles for more than a year .. the bleached wall .. and then I didn’t notice any fat .. not on the hood, but on the white walls ... because all the panniers that are here I read some kind of fantasy for me))
Don't eat fat = lean
dopleta
Quote: gypsy

About fat, if you do not eat fatty and fried, then there is no such dirt, these are my observations

And mine, although we sometimes eat fried. I have no problems with leaving, although a fairly large area of ​​the walls is covered with mosaics. There are so many care products now!
Gypsy
Here they constantly frighten with white furniture .. I honestly wipe it just with a wet rag without any means, it wipes off with a bang, because the gloss. At the same time, there are two little pigs at home.
TaTa *
There are a lot of funds, but usually one takes care of
I saw, somehow, an imported program about the renovation of the kitchen, so there the seams on the apron and on the countertop were immediately treated with a special silicone spray so as not to get dirty. Who lives or travels abroad, find out and tell us
dopleta
Quote: TaTa *

There are a lot of funds, but usually one takes care of
I saw, somehow, an imported program about the renovation of the kitchen, so there the seams on the apron and on the countertop were immediately treated with a special silicone spray so as not to get dirty. Who lives or travels abroad, find out and tell us
We also have a similar Teflon impregnation. Spray for impregnating shoes and fabrics, imparts dirt-repellent properties.
Caprice
Quote: gypsy

Here they constantly frighten with white furniture .. I honestly wipe it just with a wet rag without any means, it wipes off with a bang, because the gloss. At the same time, there are two little pigs at home.
I also have a white kitchen covered with melamine. Washed "one-two". And my friend's husband wanted to change the white kitchen to a wooden one. And to that all the dirt sticks and is not cleaned.
Taia
My kitchen had white furniture for a long time. Now it is brown, under the tree. White is better, less dirt was visible on it.
Countryman
Quote: Rita

Highlights!

Let me tell you a casebutth. 53x years ago.
My father had just built a house then. It was not finished yet, but we have already moved into it from a private apartment. The log walls were from the inside with fiberboard - fiberboard (so-called dry plaster) upholstered, and the parents covered the fiberboard on top with newspapers. So that later you can put the wallpaper on them. (We didn't have time for the wallpaper either.) And while one of the congresses of the CPSU was going on and the newspapers were of a huge volume. However, for the same price. They were pasted over. And my father also got hold of, completely for free, the same thick copies of the newspaper Nouvelle de Moscou - no one at all wanted to take them from Soyuzpechat, and in the end they wrote them off.

Now closer to the topic.
The kitchen was partially pasted over with just that French version. After some time, they noticed that our cat, Barsik, regularly stands by the wall and reads newspapers in the most attentive way. Moreover, in French! He even moves his muzzle back and forth. And so not one day, and not even a month. Ay, yes cat!

Only then did they understand. At the same kitchen wall, along our unfinished building, on the floor, two kerosene stoves with food being prepared on them were regularly placed. Here newspapers and fiberboard are saturated with meaty aroma. The cat did not read. The cat sniffed.
lega
Quote: Tanyusha

I have an oak kitchen for 12 years now and what is interesting about it. 🔗

Oak facades? Veneer? Or all solid oak walls?


Quote: Kamusik

.... It still gives off formaldehyde vapors. Another question is that it is practically impossible to protect oneself from everything harmful now!

If not all ends are processed, sealed, then yes .. highlights. And on another question I agree - it is very harmful to live now, it is impossible to protect oneself.
Tanyusha
I have solid oak oak facades.
Gypsy
Comil'fo is not comme il faut, and I can't live without nets. The younger has a terrible reaction to mosquito bites. If during the night a mosquito kisses in 10 places, then in the morning it is covered with petrified soft tissues .. the reaction is like after a bee sting, only in 10 places. Then it is in such a stone state for a very long time, it is also red, swollen and itchy
julifera
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