an_domini
Stoves, like any other equipment, are designed for a certain period of operation. Then everything will fall in turn, so that for the rest of your life one HP will not do.
For Panas, this is 7-8 years. My 255th worked just that much, now he is working at the dacha, the bucket, unlike Coonwood 450 bought at the same time, does not flow. The coating of the agitator has partially peeled off, so it is often necessary to pick it out of the bread. In the new 2502, the bread jumps out perfectly, the programs work more clearly in comparison with the old one. Of course, the old one will still serve in the country, but the difference with the new one is noticeable.
sazalexter
Florichka, Bucket repair is possible by analogy with Moulinex OW 5002 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=36855.0 or new hp from 10 tons 🔗


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Quote: @ lena @
from baked goods - small baguettes
Baguettes, it is more loudly said, more like buns, and the HP itself does not know how to form them, all with handles. Therefore, it is easier in the oven. He cooks the HP jam if only for a meal, very often only once, then repair the HP or buy a new bucket.
Any HP is suitable for other requirements.
@Lena@
Thank you, as far as I understood the most reliable Panasonic and less than 10,000 for my requests a bread maker can not be found?
sazalexter
@Lena@, Panasonic is more reliable, and any HP is suitable for your requirements.
@Lena@
Thank you
Florichka
sazalexter, Alexander, thanks, read, but understood little. Then it was in St. Petersburg, and I was in Moscow.
sazalexter
Florichka, New HP Panasonic from 10t. p, noname from 4t. R
Florichka
Alexander, so Olga advises Panasonic 2502, I looked at it, I liked it. I think it will not work with the repair, I will buy Panasonic.
Irin1
New from Moulinex: Moulinex OW220830 Bread Maker. The attachment of the bucket to the shaft is plastic. How long do you think it will last?
sazalexter
Irin1, Irina, it's hard to say, did not see ... what Mulinex means and does not shine with such reliability
Irin1
Previously, the Mulinex bread makers had a shaft (that which comes out of the corus to the inner part) of iron and the shaft on the bucket (when you turn the bucket over) also had an iron spinner, and now all Mulenexes up to 10 thousand have a plastic polyhedron on the bucket. which is inserted into a plastic washer with risks. I'm afraid that at high temperatures the plastic will break, melt, etc.
pantadon
Hello, dear forum users! I apologize, if I am writing on the wrong topic, there is no time to understand. I want to buy a used HB LG 2051 BCJ or 1001CJ. How can I check before buying? What to look for?
Maybe look at other brands?
And another question, since I have never dealt with HB. Perhaps they do not use kneading, but only proofing and baking?
Why don't all ovens bake rye bread and sourdough bread?
Thanks in advance to everyone who will help resolve these issues!
ZanZibar
Good day to all bakers!)
I decided on the stove, or rather with the stove manufacturer: Panasonic. It's not cheap, of course, but it's not worth saving on technology (reliability) (principle).
Of the models, the most "packed" are (as I understand it) these: SD-2502 and SD-ZB2512KTS.
I would like to clarify a few points:
1. The only difference between 2502 and 2512 is that it has only one dispenser (for additives) and there are 2 less programs, are they otherwise identical?
2. Of these two programs - baking low-yeast dough and bread products with filling - I don't need the first one, and I really need the second one. After all, 2502 has an additive dispenser, won't it bake filled bread?
3. Both ovens do not prepare yoghurt?
I would be very grateful for the answers).
sazalexter
ZanZibar, With a dispenser for nuts and raisins both HP. Not a single HP bakes pies, as well as lavash with chapatis. These HP do not cook yoghurts, yogurt makers are better suited for this https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=479.0
Threat optimal model SD-2511
ZanZibar
Quote: sazalexter

ZanZibar, With a dispenser for nuts and raisins both HP. Not a single HP bakes pies, as well as lavash with chapatis. These HP do not cook yoghurts, yogurt makers are better suited for this https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=479.0
Threat optimal model SD-2511
Thanks for the answer).
With regards to yoghurt: I've seen a similar function in many ovens that I considered at the beginning. It is a pity that this is not in Panas. Well, okay, this is not critical.
I looked at the characteristics of the SD-2511, we can say it suits everything, the only thing I would like to have a more weighty loaf. In those two models it is 1.25 kg, and here it is 1.00 kg. Can this be neglected (in reality, the difference will be imperceptible?) Or can you go all the way in your Wishlist? I ask for advice.

p. from. on one site in the reviews they write that the SD-2511 has a plastic mixer drive. Is it so? And what is it in SD-2502?
dandelion
Guys, help with the choice of HP. There was a Panasonic. I screwed up because of the test for pasties ((((Now I have to buy cheaper. Around 6000.
sazalexter
dandelion, A repair is not ..?
entin
Quote: sazalexter
dandelion, A repair is not ..?
ABOUT! Otherwise I didn't quite understand:
Quote: dandelion
I screwed up because of the dough
Thank you, explained. Indeed, why not repair?
dandelion
Already 3 breakages were. Stuffing box. then the pin is broken, on which the bucket is put on or placed. Then the belt .. In general, I now have to repair it all the time.
The question remains open))))
sazalexter
dandelion, There is nothing more to break.
romantalia
Good day)

Dear pros, tell me the least noisy models of bread makers in the price range up to 15000r! Took to try Redmond, turned on at night, so she woke up the whole house when she started kneading)
Svetlana Mazqarovna
romantalia, I just have Redmond, I will not say that it is noisier than others, this is my 3rd in a row. Any x / stove will create some kind of noise, but how to knead it without noise?
sazalexter
Quote: romantalia
the least noisy models of bread makers
Panasonic.
julia_bb
+1
I'm for Panasonic, you can look at Avito used
an_domini
If Panas, then without a dispenser for milking yeast - it is very loud, and, in my opinion, is generally unnecessary.
MariV
Panasonic without dispenser.
mamusi
Quote: MariV
Panasonic without dispenser.
+ 1000
I have 2501, now the dispenser has been fixed. Do not use.
Nikusya
Quote: mamusi

+ 1000
I have 2501, now the dispenser has been fixed. Do not use.
And about "fixed" can be more detailed? And then I have 12, well, very sometimes he gets out with his grinding
Mandraik Ludmila
Lovely bakers, and what models does Panasonic have without a dispenser, please tell me
My redmond got me, I want a Panasonic, but since I often bake at night, the sound of the dispenser will wake everyone up in the house - we don't need it
gala10
Buttercup, look here. Full description of all Panasonic models. I must say right away that my 2511 is exactly with a dispenser.
Mandraik Ludmila
gala10, thank you, my dear went to look, I no longer have the strength to endure this redmond, the mystery before that was even better.
Marpl
I have a Panasonic 255 with a dispenser, I have been using it for 8 years, there is no loud noise. Washing machines are much noisier. I played with it, baking bread with different fillings at first and stopped at bread without fillings, but I don't use it. If I took the stove now, then definitely without a dispenser.
Alex100
our Panasonic is soon 4, constantly in work, but the dispenser was only used for the 1st year
Mandraik Ludmila
If I'm not mistaken, now only 2500 are produced without a dispenser, I read, they write differently in different sources, but of course I believe more in our HP-ts. With a dispenser, it's not an option for me at all, in ancient times we have no partitions in the house, except for the bathroom, everything is in one room, so everything happens almost under the ear, and I bake mostly at night ..
lala2
Panasonic 2510 without dispenser, I have such a good bread maker
ABlack
Friends, welcome!
Ripe for the purchase of HP. I went through forums and reviews. I chose it according to the criteria of reliability of technology and quality of baking.
I identified 2 companies for myself - Redmond (there is a multicooker that has not failed over the past 5 years) and Panasonic (as a recommended brand in this area). the presence of a delay and a dispenser is important, because due to the eternal lack of time, you want to throw in at night and get fresh bread in the morning.
According to these parameters, I was considering 3 models: REDMOND RBM-M1900 - 10 490 rubles, Panasonic SD-2511 - 10 799 rubles, Panasonic SD-ZB2512 - 11 999 rubles. And something, it seems to me, that you need to take the last one while the promotion is in the store.
Tell me, out of these three models, at the indicated prices, is my choice justified?
Sedne
Andrei, of course Panasonic, you can't think of better hp, they are all good, look at the programs that you like.
ABlack
Quote: Sedne
Of course Panasonic, you can't think of better hp, they are all good, look at the programs that you like.
Svetlana, which model is better out of the 2 given at the indicated prices? And is the overpayment of 1,000 for a second dispenser worth it?
Helena
Quote: ABlack
Panasonic SD-2511 - 10 799 rubles, Panasonic SD-ZB2512 - 11 999 rubles.
ABlack, take whatever you like best. The Panasonic SD-ZB2512 also has a yeast dispenser, but some users say it is very loud. And you can do without a yeast dispenser.
Sedne
Helena, well for me it is not very loud, but it really is not really needed.
ABlack
Ok, I ordered 2512, the volume is not very confusing. The main thing is that I threw in the ingredients, set the program and in the morning fresh bread)
Sedne
Andrei, and without a dispenser the same way, just put the yeast first under the flour.
ABlack
Svetlana, but let it be), the price difference is insignificant, and the model is newer)
By the way, I liked the case more, the metal, after all, and the color fit better into the kitchen.
Sedne
Quote: ABlack
By the way, I liked the case more, the metal, after all, and the color fit better into the kitchen.
So I chose this, I also liked it more externally
ABlack
Svetlana, Tomorrow they will bring, the bakery business will begin. Thanks for answers)
mamusi
Quote: ABlack
Tomorrow they will bring, the baking business will begin. Thanks for answers)
Congratulations to the new associate in the KP "case".
We are waiting for your impressions!
Mandraik Ludmila
Andrei, definitely Panasik, I had a redmond, it works very loudly, and the signal beeps so much that if you sleep, you wake up in a cold sweat, with the thought: - fire, - war, - save, help! And in general, radish does not know how to bake bread compared to panasik. For the second month now, I am a happy owner of Panasonic SD-ZB2511, he does not have a yeast dispensary, so if the oven is without additives (raisins, etc.), then there is no rumble when the dispensary is opened. I bake mainly at night, in the evening I laid the ingredients, in the morning I received a gorgeous bread. I guess the same at a discount, otherwise the price is certainly not very humane, but after my first two ovens (Mystery and Redmond), I agree to such a price, if only the process and the result would please like Panasik
JudzhinM
Good afternoon everyone.
For several months already, the thought has been floating around that it would be good to eat fresh bread in the morning, and not only in the morning. Now I have matured in the fact that I need a bread maker. I started a selection on the Internet at local stores Gorenje BM900ND, after that I went shopping everywhere advising Moulinex various models in the cyan range from 7,000 to 11,000 rubles. There was also a proposal from Kenwood OWBM250011. A familiar seller recommended the Polaris PBM 1501D he uses this himself and Stadler Form Baker One SFBM.990 in the CSN for 6000 can be taken.
Here's what to take with my head. About Panosiki they say that they are officially in Russia but carry.
Marpl
There are stoves on the official Panasonic website

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In Eldorado on the Panasonic promotion for 8099 rubles

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Look at Ourson, he also bakes fine, but the bucket is smaller.
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: JudzhinM
About Panosiki they say that they are officially in Russia but carry.
And what are they officially sold in our stores?
I have a third bread maker, the first Mystery was not bad, after 1.5 years of work the pin fell out on which the spatula was put on, now such a model is not produced. Then I got hungry and bought a Redmond, so it was a perfect horror, I normally did not bake any bread. Now I have Panasik 2511 for 5 months already, this is a wonderful miracle, for wheat, rye-wheat bread - ideal! But for pure rye bread, judging from my experience, there are no bread makers, at least in what peki dances with tambourines are obtained

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