Margass
In general - my intermediate opinion in comparison with the grater KAX643ME and the combine (food processor KAH647PL): grater for small volumes, rinsed after use and put in place; the harvester is much faster (today I chopped carrots and onions for peppers - 20 seconds for the whole procedure), plus it is washed in a dishwasher (except for the adapter, but it does not get dirty).
Yesterday I almost killed the car - I stuffed the meat into the blender after the meat grinder, but apparently it was cool for him (either a lot or hard) - the smell of burnt plastic went, turned it off, kneaded it with my hands. Now I think I should have tried the K-nozzle ..

PS. Question. At all on the low-speed socket the attachments "move" a little during the work, or do they stand motionless?
Prus - 2
conf, I have 4 nozzles on the low-speed - a dough sheeter, a meat grinder, a cube cutter and a grater / shredder. Here the grater / shredder seems to be walking a little (or maybe this ring does not twist tightly on it) - I don't really remember, I tried it a year ago. The rest are tight.
NatalyaB
conf, of course, to the nozzle. The meat grinder makes the minced meat directly into the bowl, you remove it, the bowl - in place, you insert the nozzle and knead, adding what is needed. No beating, nothing with your hands. 5 minutes - and that's it, you harvest to ripen. Here, however, you have to take out of the bowl: it does not fit into the refrigerator.
And you don’t need to stir fish for so long, about 3 minutes. And you don’t need to defend it, immediately from the bowl and mold.
The beauty!
With a meat blender, I make only liver pate. But you can also put it in a bowl after a meat grinder.
Irlarsen
Well, it happened, I saw her! Her is an Italian meringue. The dream has come true. Now I understand that never before have I lowered it to the desired density. True, the children did not like it, they say it is very sweet.
LudMila
Irina, and what is the recipe?
Irlarsen
Ludmila, Made 100 proteins 260 sugar and 20 water

PS error crept in 200 sugar, of course
zvezda
Irina, you broke all the proportions .. and there is not enough water and a lot of sugar ... this is some kind of caramel
Irlarsen
Olya, Ol, it's like in the kenwood book 240 by 480 by 40. And at the top I was mistaken and instead of 200 I wrote 260, but I even poured 22 water, although I needed 18 I know that in the usual recipe with cooking syrup there is more water, but it is boils away, so I did not dare to pour more. Do you pour more?
zvezda
Quote: Irlarsen
like in kenwood book
I don’t have a book, I’m doing more about Andy Chief .. there is more! The ratio of proteins and sugar is 1: 2, but water is a controversial issue .. I, ha, our car, by experience came that you need more, because you fill in everything at once and it evaporates, whatever one may say, I can’t my recipe to find
LudMila
Quote: zvezda
I can't find my recipe
Olya, catch it!
Kitchen machines Kenwood # 4650
He's there too.
But this proportion, according to which Irina did, suits me very much. Not a little water, quite enough.
zvezda
Ludmila, Thank you! Otherwise I could not find ...
I have a small count. water is not so good at it .. well, here - to each his own! I am more inclined to the Swiss one now, and the roll on it baked and bezeshki more like it, now I will make butter ...
Irlarsen
Quote: zvezda
there and the roll baked on it
Today I have a roll in my program (it never turned out, tasty, it is tasty, but I didn’t curl up and burst) I hope for Kesha. I want to ask that something with corn starch does not add up to meringue, it smells to me, it just stinks. And can I not put it at all, what do you think?

And the dough! Oh, I haven't made pies for a long time, so long ago that I can't remember. My children do not eat. But yesterday they agreed. Someone has a recipe for the dough in their hearts, otherwise their eyes run up, I don't know which one to choose.And I also want to put out cabbage in Keshka!
zvezda
Quote: Irlarsen
I don't put it at all,
I would leave, how can corn stink ?? This is usually a potato, or put less.
NataliaL
Irina, Cabbage, after all, is better in a frying pan, the bowl is not for what I think) It is more like a saucepan)
Margass
Irlarsen, I did the Swiss without starch at all, it develops normally, the main thing is not to dry it out.
Olyonok
Quote: zvezda

ChiHour ....
Ignore the space at the very end, put down the phone and ..
In mashed potatoes cooled to 60-65 * just add protein and set 6.

Olya, information flashed in the video that there were some problems with 9060 and you confirmed it. Please tell me what was meant? I dream of 9060. I am also on the verge of choosing and I doubt ... I have 020 and there are a lot of attachments to it. Will all fit (even through an adapter). Although, of course, it's probably better without any adapters ... and I also saw on the Internet that 094 is for some reason more expensive than 9040 ... mystery) do not know why?
Irlarsen
Tatyana, Thank you. I will try without starch
zvezda
Quote: Olyonok
what do you mean ?? Dreaming about 9060
I already wrote above that they simply do not exist, just like 023 at one time (I have it) all attachments will fit through the adapter, except for the combine, in 020 it was attached to a medium-speed one, but here it is not .. and citrus too.
Olyonok
Quote: zvezda

I already wrote above that they simply do not exist, just like 023 at one time (I have it) all attachments will fit through the adapter, except for the combine, in 020 it was attached to a medium-speed one, but here it is not .. and citrus too.
Thanks for the answer. So citrus AT312 is not suitable for the new induction? And I thought the high-speed socket remained unchanged ..
zvezda
If you have a high-speed one, then it will go - my first model is for a medium-speed one !!
Py. sy. please do not quote the entire message, select only the phrase, or better, just click either on the nickname or on the name under / above the ava ...
Irlarsen
Girls, how should the bowl stand? The first days I was sure that it stands like a glove. Today I tried frying for the first time and noticed that the bowl was dangling. I was whipping the meringue just now, so the bowl went like a spring-loaded one. Is this correct or did something happen to me?

WRITES. I played it some more. If you do not wear a protective cover, then the bowl turns a little clockwise and stands more or less motionless, but when you put the plastic cover on to work with the temperature, then do not lower Kesha's head, it does not close, there is a ledge on this cover, only if a little move the bowl back, then the protrusion falls into the nose of the bowl, the head drops, but the bowl does not stand tight, you can move your hands back and forth when working with your hands.
zvezda
Irina, nothing bothers me, you watch my video from the master class!
Irlarsen
OlyaThank you, looked at the video all type top.
I also twisted it, inspired by the video. I put on a protective cover, I begin to lower my head, the plastic cover rests on the edge of the bowl, if you press hard, it snaps into place! Apparently, in the early days, I did so, but today I changed my movements. BUT, then it is VERY difficult to raise your head, the lever does not snap off. Without a protective cover, everything is much easier. Is that how it should be?




What I mean. Here the bowl is fixed. Here is the hole of the bowl spout OFF CENTER

Kenwood kitchen machine: working with attachments

And the protrusion of the protective casing is just in the center

Kenwood kitchen machine: working with attachments

And here is the place where this protrusion rests against the bowl, and therefore the head closes with great effort. No one makes any effort in the video. What do I not understand?

Kenwood kitchen machine: working with attachments
Olyonok
And you scroll the bowl a little clockwise (or have you forgotten it already))) when you install it? After you put it, try to scroll the bowl. There are grooves at the bottom in the base ...




Girls, the fact that the corolla in old machines 020, etc. is better than in new inductions, I already understood from your messages ..))) but with the hook, how is it? I’m probably not the first to ask this question, therefore, to whom it is not difficult, please give a link to the discussion.
zvezda
Quote: Irlarsen
What do I not understand?
The most important thing! Scroll a little clockwise and everything will stop! The way you do - hurt !!
NataliaL
Quote: Olyonok
a whisk on old machines 020, etc.better
What's better?
zvezda
Quote: NataliaL
What's better?
He's fluffy!
Irlarsen
Quote: zvezda
The most important thing! Scroll a little clockwise and everything will stop! The way you do - hurt !!
So I also turn clockwise! And the bowl turns, the nose of the bowl turns out to be shifted from the center, exactly clockwise, which I showed in the first picture. That is, it should be further offset from the center clockwise? So all the same, this ledge rests against the edge of the bowl. And if the protrusion falls into the cutout of the spout, then the bowl dangles, since it is precisely to fix it that it is necessary to "scroll literally a little clockwise"
Twig
Maybe the grooves in the base are shifted. The bowl is twisted out. Try to put a different row bowl (para-rotate 180 degrees, half a turn)

As for the fluffy corolla, it is not better. From a non-fluffy one you torture a whipped mass out, but from a fluffy one you can generally kill it. And you can't knock it on the edge of the bowl, the fluffy rim requires a more gentle handling.
LudMila
A fluffy corolla is good to have as a second, not the only one. Reinforced is still more functional, they can whip much heavier mixtures.
Quote: Olyonok
and with the hook, how is it?
But the "shovel" hook from the first induction is better.
Here on this page you can read,
Kenwood kitchen machine: working with attachments # 4541
and generally search on the topic.
Irlarsen
Quote: Twig
The bowl is twisted out.
I also think that my cup has begun to twist. Kesha is heavy and you just don't want to drag him to the service. That is, your bowl turns a little clockwise and should be tight. And while the spout should be located strictly in the center? My cup began to go far, probably something happened. I put it this way and that, it leaves. It started yesterday, first I fried it, then the dough, but I began to make the meringue and the bowl began to dangle. I opened it, fixed it and the bowl went into position in the photo. I don’t remember how it was before, but now I understand that something happened. To drag Kesha to the service? Or how?
Twig
Irina, maybe you can adjust the grooves in the base, I don't know. I have a plastic bowl in the grooves that is loosely attached and walks with a shaker.
Try to put something in the grooves, like a piece of a rubber glove. Just to understand. Didn't your cup fall? Maybe the guides in the bowl are deformed?




My bowl is also twisted visually. But I have an old induction, there are no protrusions of any kind.
zvezda
Quote: Twig
about a fluffy corolla, he is not better. From a non-fluffy one, you torture a whipped mass, but from a fluffy one, you can kill it altogether
I don’t know ... I’ve had it for 12 years already and I’ve been knocking it and the mass flies out at once, and from the new one I “pick it out.” .. and also, when I whipped the marshmallow, I specifically compared it from, so in all cases to the last, fluff won
Irina, is there any way to watch or connect to a video on any network ?? And it's just very hard to understand in words
Anchic
With a whisk, you can knock on the edge of your palm over the bowl and everything flies out by itself.
Irlarsen
zvezda, Olya, Of course!
Margass
And still, I’ll ask about the high-speed nest: yesterday I put in a grinder with cherries, the smell of burnt plastic came back again. Is this normal or should I be worried? The knives did not stop at the same time, they cut as expected ..
Peter Push
Quote: LudMila
But the "shovel" hook from the first induction is better.
I have both. I did not notice any difference in dough mixing, neither in time nor in quality.
For me, both with a spatula and for the new Kenwoods - spiral-shaped, but lighter and without a spatula, so I did not catch the difference in mixing with them.
There is also a native hook, a cook at 020, only silumin, they can also perfectly knead dough.
Prus - 2
At first I also wanted to look for this famous hook, but I read the reviews of the girls (who have 2 hooks - this one with a shovel and a new one) and did not take it. Kneads native perfectly, it is kneading as if by hand. I bought the car a year ago, so the hook is already new, spiral. conf, maybe something is earning in? At first, the first times, the sound was not very smooth. And it worked loud enough. Now everything is normal - it works smoothly and not very loudly.I use the high-speed socket very often - the food processor is my favorite. And you only smell with the multi-chopper? Other attachments for this socket how?
Margass
Prus - 2, I still have it in general relatively new - and the smell of brushes, and the smell of plastic about the brushes have already been clarified by the seller - they said that the norm, it is already a shame to call about plastic - they will definitely say "some crazy girl got caught"

By the way, one more thing, about the comparison of 9060S and 9040S - they differ only in the package bundle, with the promotion "2 nozzles as a gift" it is somehow more profitable to take the 9040, since you can choose the most necessary nozzles.
NataliaL
Tatyana, Do not be shy, call !! Personally, I don't remember any smells, and certainly not after several times of use.
Prus - 2
Tanechkacall, of course! The car is not cheap! And try another nozzle on this nest (if there is still one on it). Maybe it's the smell from the nozzle - you never know? And whoever says what - figs with them, the main thing is that everything is fine with the car! And today Keshunya knocked minced meat for such wonderful cutlets (cutlets) https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in....0
uuka
Ladies, good afternoon!
Purchased kvl4010 - it hurray !!! Now he urgently needs flexi and a new hook (which you all praise) and a dough rolling machine (But this is later) I very much ask experienced users to write (mono in a personal) where it is better and cheaper to buy these things))) (Moscow)
NatalyaB
uuka, You first try the "native" hook, maybe you will like it. Above read, praise and spiral. I am quite happy without a spatula, kneads like an animal. Flexi too: try the K-attachment, for some it is enough if it fits well. If you don't like it, then you will search. They will not run away anywhere.
uuka
Of course, I tried everything. K-shaped I tried the dough for a cake, I noticed of course)), but when beating the butter, it was all on the walls. flexi is needed. The hook in my model is not spiral, it is like a "lightning" silumin. Of course I will not run to buy tomorrow, but I want to understand where advanced users are bought and monitor prices))
Margass
About the nozzles and smells I called and said that while it was earning in - everything was within normal limits. The machine is designed for almost round-the-clock work. Question about 9040, if that.

More about the attachments - yesterday I made a dough for pasta, for the first time I took a special flour for pasta - it turned out to be rolled out on a 9-ke without sticking and holes (as it was on "normal" pizza flour), but that is not the question.
I tried to knead with a hook - he scattered everything along the walls and happily ran further along the empty center, took K, mixed everything, then put the hook - he had already made a finished bun. Is this how it should be, or am I missing something?

If someone throws in a personal where you can buy all sorts of differences for baking (at the moment I'm looking for almond flour, petals, vanilla essence, etc.) - thanks
NatalyaB
Quote: conf
If someone throws in a personal where you can buy all sorts of differences
I seem to have sent it, but I would also not refuse links to confectionery stores.
zvezda
Quote: uuka
kvl4010
Confused nothing in the numbers ?? Didn't find such a model
uuka
Kvl 4100 - messed up of course)
Margass
(hurray, I was renamed to my "native" nickname)

uuka, attachments are available in the official store, with discounts for wholesale. (2 - 20%, 3 - 30%, 4 - 40%, I can throw off the promotional code in a personal). Judging by what I see in the comparison plate, all KAH / KAX fit directly, without an adapter. Hook for 6.7L - KW716555, Flexi AT512 (available at the office).

Irlarsen, with such a bowl shift, I would apply for a guarantee. In our case, it is almost "with a visit to the house." If you do not manually tighten and close it - because of the constant "twitching" of the bowl, the plastic lid may break - is that not necessary? I looked at the bowl - I did not immediately see that it could be regulated there, but the service should be more visible.
Helen
Quote: Margass
flexi AT512
This is a souffle ...
Flexy AT502!

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