pavpan
I don't change anything I plug into the socket 1 Program medium crust, weight 1 kg, start button
Chef
The instructions, as well as recipes for 5002, were posted on the site (in the section Manufacturers).
shili-tatyana2009
Hello! I am that rare owner of a good bread machine that pleases everyone for a year now. But the question is: what to do if you need to change the bucket. While there is no such need, what if ...
Arseny
I don't know where to do this in the Union. Most instruments can be purchased with all replacement materials in the United States. I can help with this. However, in some cases it is very significant for the price, and sometimes very cheap ones come across.
verazato
Cogs ... Cogs ...

They gave me the stove (Moulinex 200032), and the gift horse, as they say ...

The first bread was White according to the recipe from the instructions. It turned out all white, well, and the taste left much to be desired. I was upset, shoveled the entire forum and realized that I would not have to rejoice as well as the owners of Panasonic.

And I just started looking for a recipe for "my" bread, so that at least the taste suits me.
And (Oh, miracle!) Here it is - out of nowhere, both taste and crust without any straining on my part:

Bread maker Moulinex OW5002

It seems to me handsome !!

Summary: You just need to make friends with the stove, technology is like a person, it needs affection.
marishka75
Quote: Ricercare

Marishka, as it became clear, should not make a mystical cult out of a bread machine.
It's pretty simple. The quality of baking and crust is regulated by means of a thermostat, which periodically turns off (or does not turn off) the stove when it heats up the dough during germination and bakes it properly.

In your case, I suppose, the thermostat was just originally installed far from the case. It just needs to be slightly bent closer to the body so that it is more sensitive to temperature.

Best of all, in your case, just take it to the workshop. If the thermostat works (and this is easy to check: your heating element should be heating up. Listen, are there any clicks to turn off the heating during the dough rising or baking? If it does NOT work, it must be replaced.

In any case, do not worry, just go to the workshop. If you are not "left-handed", you cannot do anything on your own.
I took my mule to the service, so what? I was given a conclusion: the stove is in working order, like your hands are attached to the wrong end. I don’t know, I don’t know, but I have this second stove, the first is also a mulinex, but there were no problems with it at all.
So I'm thinking of baking bread, and taking it along with the oven - let them rejoice
Rem
Quote: Ricercare

In your case, I suppose, the thermostat is simply initially installed far from the case. It just needs to be slightly bent closer to the body so that it is more sensitive to temperature.
the temperature sensor must be moved further away from the wall so that t becomes higher and the crust is darker! Exactly further!
Ricercare
Quote: Rem

the temperature sensor must be moved further away from the wall so that t becomes higher and the crust is darker! Exactly further!

So the marishka is just darker than it should be. This means the sensor is too far from the wall. It is necessary to move it closer so that it turns off the heating element earlier and does not blush.
Read the text ...

And I have a completely opposite problem: on the very pale crust, burnt sides and bottom are obtained. Has anyone come across this?
Rem
Yes. I didn't read it carefully. But is there a propeller power reserve? It may not be. The author will report how the case ended.
Ricercare
Quote: marishka75


I took my mule to the service, so what? I was given a conclusion: the stove is in working order, like your hands are attached to the wrong end.I don’t know, I don’t know, but I have this second stove, the first is also a mulinex, but there were no problems with it at all.
So I'm thinking of baking bread, and taking it along with the oven - let them rejoice

Marishka, how are they checking? Connect to the network. Is the heating element heating up? So the owner's hands are not from there. And they do not check the delicate moment "how much the heating element heats up". After all, they have no flour, no milk, no yeast.
You just print this forum thread for them and let them read.
marishka75
yes, the fact of the matter is that apparently they baked in it, because when they took it from the service, the bucket was not entirely clean, and the dough was stuck in the mixers. I tried to bake a cupcake - only the products were translated - the top is white, and the bottom and sides are like coal There is only one way out: to disassemble and dig deeper into it, I hope zap. extra parts will not remain
Lucien
marishka75, it looks like I have the same problem as you. I have a mule for about a month, I am satisfied with the quality of the bread (I bake both according to recipes with HP, and according to recipes of members of the forum) on a light crust, but it turns out, like on an average ... But I can't "agree" with sweet pastries - I put out a light one crust, and the sides and bottom are dark, you have to turn it off 5-7 minutes earlier. I looked through the forum - and I'm afraid to twist a screw, suddenly there will be a very pale crust ...
puel
The more sugar and milk there is in the baked goods, the more fried the result will be. Sweet bread and in my x \ n it turns out nicely fried, marishka75 How is your French bread? is it burning too ??
Cupcakes in a bread maker (ours) do not turn out very well, in the oven it is better.
Attention!! The screws in the Mules are unscrewing only those with a pale crust, for others the road to service, because it is still impossible to tighten the screw to the limit !!
Rem
If the warranty came out and you know how to disassemble, you can disassemble and get to the sensor, unscrew the screw and lubricate the sensor plane, which is pressed against the body, with heat-conducting paste (used in radio engineering). Sold on radio markets. Collect and bake baked goods. Should help, if not, malfunction of the heating element or circuit.
olga71
Hello bakers !!! I have a Moulinex OW 500 230 XXL. I had the imprudence to throw out the stirrer blades !!! Thought truncated .... Found on an Internet: INSERVICE. Repair of household appliances and spare parts for it. Metro station Kursk, st. Kazakova, 8-a, building 3. t. sot. 8-916-378-45-40. I called, I didn't even have to order were in stock ... BOUGHT !!! Now I keep the address ...
Astra 79
Hello bakers! To all of the above, I want to add on my own, far from in favor of moulinex. I have been using this stove for more than a year, I bake all the time, tried different recipes and programs for this I can fully judge all the subtleties and nuances in its work. Here are all the disadvantages that greatly darken the impression of using this unit: a very poor and unstable rise of the dough (such important conditions as yeast, dough, temperature of ingredients and air, quality of flour and voltage in the network, as well as experiments with a temperature sensor (unscrewing the screw) taken into account and tested), baking also leaves much to be desired, but I don't even want to talk about the crust - a hint of browning only on the third program - the longest, and even then with the use of sugar or milk and baking on the 12th program. I also do not recommend cooking jam in it, after the second or third time, it will start to "grab" the shaft, or even jam at all (we went through this). In fairness, I will say that she does a good job with baking, but this is obvious - given the presence of such ingredients and their proportions. To aggravate the situation, as I understand it is far from the only "victim" and according to the above, I do not recommend buying this oven, to put it mildly - you are tormented, frankly "raw" product. Peace to all!
Crochet
Quote: Astra 79

I do not recommend buying this oven, to put it mildly - you are tormented, frankly "raw" product. Peace to all!
Astra
And here I am, on the contrary, with both hands (and feet) "FOR" Mulinex! I have been baking in it for more than two years, to be more precise, for 2 years and 3 months, I have been making jam for the same amount of time, and all this time I cannot get enough of my stove! To be honest, during all this time I can’t remember the frankly failed bread, well, apart from such a trifle as a failed dome, and even then, this was only a few times ... True, my model differs from yours, but it’s also Moulinex. ..

Astra 79
Good evening, Krosh! Indeed, 5002 has such problems a rarity, and I meant exactly OW2000. But those are no less moulinex, I will never buy it again.Three of my friends have the same stoves (2000s) and all as one bake a crust very badly, although their rise is better than mine and it is not the same from one instance to another. In my opinion, nevertheless, a very unsuccessful model or not modified - I have had enough with it.
cutie
Hello, I'm new. They gave me a Mulinex OW 200032 bread maker for my birthday. The same evening I tried it out - I baked white bread according to the recipe from the booklet attached to the cotton. The first attempt was successful. But then just some kind of horror. I throw in all the ingredients as expected, knead well, but during baking the knife for kneading the dough keeps spinning all the time. Tena heats up well, but apparently due to the fact that the bun is constantly mixing, the dough does not rise well and does not penetrate at all. I've already changed flour and yeast ...
HELP please, what am I doing wrong? Or is it a breakdown?
Mila007
cutie , of course it's a breakdown !! The stirrer must not rotate during baking. Take it to where you bought the HP. Let them repair it under warranty.
cutie
Thank you, otherwise I'm the first to deal with this unit!
Mila007
cutie , it’s a pity that this happened to you. But under the guarantee, they will fix everything for you and you will rejoice in the baked bread again. You read here, study. And when your HP returns, you will experiment to the fullest! There are a lot of good proven recipes on the site here!
cutie
Yes, it's really not nice, but it doesn't matter tomorrow I'll go to the store with cotton, let them fix it. And the site is really wonderful !!!
Kuryanochka
I read the entire section from the first to the last sheet. Having Moulinex 500230 available (by the way, somewhere they asked the difference between 5002 and 50023о, the difference is only in the baking programs and their numbering) I have mixed feelings.
I have more burning than a pale crust. The bread bakes well, the crust, when exposed to light, is burnt to the limit. That is, if you do not say that this is a "light" crust, then it is tolerable. As a result, I have no options for a crust.
Cupcakes are burning, smoke is coming. You can only save the finished one, scrape off the burnt after cooling. Sweet bread burns, but no smoke. Scrape off too.
Sweet bread burns in baking mode. If you bake less, it will not bake.
Total: 3 modes don't work, crust doesn't work.
In the Borodino rye bread mode, it bakes poorly, I selected the Omega 3 mode.
Conclusion: for such a price (more than 7 thousand) such disadvantages, sorry!
I would never recommend buying Moulinex! And even after 3 months of operation
began to climb the control panel, letters denoting modes and so on began to be erased !!! Not in one gate!
And after reading about other models, you think it's better like mine, always fried to the fullest. In general, the next model will be different!
sazalexter
Kuryanochka I sympathize This is an obvious marriage, urgently in service !!!
cutie
Today I took it to the store, they promised to fix everything in a week. Hope the week doesn't turn into a month! Thank you all for your answer !!!!
Kuryanochka
I have an idea! If each of us writes at least one review, the whole truth about our stoves !, on the sites for the sale of these models (enter the model and the word reviews in the search engine) and arrange this attack for them, maybe then the shameless manufacturers will take into account these shortcomings in connection with the decrease number of sales! Or at least somehow compensate yourself for the moral costs and a terrible sediment in your soul (for that kind of money, get such a miracle in feathers))
I've already started .... Support!
Kuryanochka
In my oven, in Borodinsky mode, after the signal for sprinkling the bread with coriander grain (I do not confuse it with the signal for raisins, it is not in Borodino mode, and I don’t confuse it with the restart mode after dough), after a few minutes the stirrers turn over several times. Some kind of joke, I sprinkled it, and she later kneaded it all into dough! Or is it just me?
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
Kuryanochka
nooooo in this way the Chinese will not get rid of
they breed quickly
they even have a problem to have an extra child
and you want to beat them up with unemployment
Kuryanochka
I have one goal: people will select a model and read reviews, I do not want to get such an aggregate after dumping such amounts! Such a shame! If there are many calls about the whole truth about the model, it will save at least someone from disappointment.

I, like most, have almost all of the equipment Chinese, the main thing is how they have established quality control in the production of models, there are no complaints about everything else, but this is a miracle of technology (bread baking)! I first encountered when it was so expensive and so bad!
Frost
For all my love for cooking, I have little kitchen equipment. And a funny pattern is observed: I bought a "BROWN" combine - after a couple of months the engine burned out. Repaired - 10 years like a clock.
Gas stove "BOSCH" - as for the electrics (motor and electric ignition) burned out after a couple of months. Repaired - 6 years like clockwork. It was the same with the mixer. Well, the kettle doesn't count. That's it, I have no other equipment. Now, after 2 months of work, the stove glitched - I think they will fix it and I will drive it until retirement, no less. Different equipment, different manufacturers, different countries of assembly. So what, it's just a technique. I bake the bread, it's just that the oven simplifies the process (you don't need to turn on / off the oven yourself).
IRR
Kuryanochka! And you can find out what all the fuss is about? Specifically because of your Moulinex? And what's wrong there? I am interested, but it is not clear.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
Kuryanochka - I have one goal: people will select a model and read reviews, I don't want to get such an aggregate after dumping such amounts

Are you serious

let's put everything on the shelves and look at everything really
on our site and sites that are friends with us
this is actively discussed and people are aware of what and how
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=21.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=41.0
and as for the rest of the grid, turn it on those firms that push this hardware to us, everything is put on such a stream that a dozen enthusiastic reviews will immediately appear on any of our fi
people get money for it
and then there is no such equipment that would not break, and if we decide to ban everything that breaks, we will have to cook at the stake again
Frost
Quote: shade

and then there is no such equipment that would not break, and if we decide to ban everything that breaks, we will have to cook at the stake again

Actually - that's what I wanted to say!
Kuryanochka
Quote: IRR

Kuryanochka! And you can find out what all the fuss is about? Specifically because of your Moulinex? And what's wrong there? I am interested, but it is not clear.

Specifically: (these shortcomings, as it turned out, are also present in other users)

!. Cupcake mode cannot be used. Everything burns, on any crusts. The same recipe was tried on another bread maker, everything is great!
2. The baking mode is not functional for the same reason, attempts to shorten the program result in an unbaked middle. Moreover, in baked goods, crusts of ordinary bread burn, only without smoke. like in a cupcake. (I was lucky the most, apparently, many just have a crust too fried)
3. The inscriptions on the panel are erased after 3 months of operation. It will not be enough ...
4 .. It is better not to use the jam mode, as the gum seems to be leaking (well, 3 months in total!) And sugar flowed and burnt, barely moved the stirrer, I thought everything would jam.
5. Stirrers are very difficult to pick out of the loaf, often with large pieces of bread adhered to them due to the poor non-stick coating.
6. On all types of bread, the crust is one-dark, always rough and overcooked. I always bake on a pale crust and get this result. Have to put up with it.
7. After the end of the modes, the dough, baking, jam, does not emit a sound signal, well, these are trifles against the background of all the previous

Well, everything else is fine.

Do you want to bake for 7 thousand with several unsuitable modes and all the time deep fried bread with an oak crust? But it will bake everything, even a brick.
I could buy a stove much cheaper, it would not be a shame then to get these disadvantages. As they say for what paid for so much received.
But when it was all revealed to my own, it became insulting, I thought I was paying for the quality, but it turned out the other way around
About enthusiastic exclamations, I agree. Most likely it will be so, they need to sell, and my reviews can be removed for one or two. But while they still hang, for a long time.
I understand that equipment breaks down, everything has its own expiration date, but I have such shortcomings. which no workshop will take into account. They will say-works-goodbye! Although when I took my charred piece of cake out of the oven, there was a desire to immediately shovel everything into an armful and in the store (where I bought the oven) to force them to eat it. Although they have nothing to do with it.
Admin

It is probably not necessary to organize rallies in support of the manufacturer on our website.

The most appropriate and correct thing is to reflect in this topic all the shortcomings of this model of a bread machine - other users will read it and make a choice in favor of a different bread machine.

Advice: before buying a bread maker - read carefully the section BAKERY - SELECTION and OPERATION, so that it does not hurt excruciatingly ... .. etc.
Kuryanochka
So I'm not in support! So I reflected the flaws.

Yes, really, before you take it you need to study the issue!

But it was the purchased bread machine that brought me to this wonderful site. Whoever does the opposite will be rewarded with a well-chosen model !!!

By the way, after all, I went to the site when, having already bought a stove, I began to look for reviews about it. So I think a lot of people will get here again. That's all they do.
Frost
Quote: Kuryanochka

Specifically: (these shortcomings, as it turned out, are also present in other users)
This is not true. Check out other topics.

Quote: Kuryanochka

!. Cupcake mode cannot be used. Everything burns, on any crusts. The same recipe was tried on another bread maker, everything is great!
On my oven (the model is the same as yours) muffins and sweet pastries were baked great!

Quote: Kuryanochka
5. Stirrers are very difficult to pick out of the loaf, often with large pieces of bread adhered to them due to the poor non-stick coating.
I didn't have that. They are easily taken out of the bread, nothing has ever adhered.

Quote: Kuryanochka

6. On all types of bread, the crust is one-dark, always rough and overcooked. I always bake on a pale crust and get this result. Have to put up with it.
Wow, I had to send it for repair. There is a topic here, the person had the same problem - it turned out that the thermostat was flying.
Some, on the other hand, have a pale crust, and this is much more common than a dark one.

Quote: Kuryanochka
Do you want to bake for 7 thousand with several unsuitable modes and all the time deep fried bread with an oak crust? But it will bake everything, even a brick.
I could buy a stove much cheaper, it would not be a shame then to get these disadvantages. As they say for what paid for so much received.
These are the disadvantages of a particular product. I showed you an example.
Sense of making a revolution? Bad luck with this stove - take it to the store. I had a question, when did you get burnt bread - is it me or is it a stove? I figured out that it was not me and took the stove for repair.
And instead of making a revolution, I'd rather bake something. We will use energy for peaceful purposes.
Gypsy
Quote: Kuryanochka

Specifically: (these shortcomings, as it turned out, are also present in other users)

!. Cupcake mode cannot be used. Everything burns, on any crusts. The same recipe was tried on another bread maker, everything is great!
2. The baking mode is not functional for the same reason, attempts to shorten the program result in an unbaked middle. Moreover, in baked goods, crusts of ordinary bread burn, only without smoke. like in a cupcake. (I was lucky the most, apparently, many just have a crust too fried)
3. The inscriptions on the panel are erased after 3 months of operation. It will not be enough ...
4 .. It is better not to use the jam mode, as the gum seems to be leaking (well, 3 months in total!) And sugar flowed and burnt, barely moved the stirrer, I thought everything would jam.
5. Stirrers are very difficult to pick out of the loaf, often with large pieces of bread adhered to them due to the poor non-stick coating.
6.On all types of bread, the crust is one-dark, always coarse and overcooked. I always bake on a pale crust and get this result. Have to put up with it.
7. After the end of the modes, the dough, baking, jam, does not emit a sound signal, well, these are trifles against the background of all the previous
Foty, go ahead! Then everything will be fair, otherwise one is doing well, while the other is the opposite.
veranikalenanika
The day before yesterday my colleague (having tasted my Italian bread with herbs and raw onions) finally fell in love with homemade bread and decided to buy a bread machine. Asked my advice
At the end of the working day, we went out with her at the hardware store, went in - I saw 5 bread machines on the window MOULINEX and no other firm. To my question to the seller - why only Moulinex?
Answer,
- they are often handed over, and now sell to us.
I myself worked in my youth as a sales manager, I understand what and why, but here ...
She suggested to her employee that at the DR we all collectively would fold and buy her a bread maker, I already looked after her on the int. Tefal stores with a mold for cakes, but why Moulinex, instead of taking a time-out and trying to correct the shortcomings, conducts such an aggressive policy in our stores
the question is - are they interested in dealing with returns?
Kuryanochka
If someone is lucky and everything works as it should, that's great! But if this company has so many complaints (well, what about Morozik, you write "read", well, after all, I read, right in the same topic "Moulinex", just some kind of horror) If the shortcomings are repeated so often for many, this already statistics and not an accident.
Crochet
Quote: Kuryanochka

If someone is lucky and everything works as it should, that's great!
This is about me ! I was so lucky that I also took the second HP from the same company, only a newer model! Now I have two Mulineshkas!
IRR
Girls! Listen here, on our forum there was one Far Eastern girl who often went to China (she started back in Soviet times). She told us a very instructive story - how all our stoves and other devices are riveted there. There are factories that are very respectable with a brand, quality control, etc. And through the fence there is exactly the same factory - this but not quite It seems that the brand is the same, and the Chinese hands and parts, but these Chinese women just sit there and solder these parts on their knees in 3 shifts, little place for a worker, everything is poor and an order of magnitude lower quality. And here the principle of Russian roulette works - as anyone is lucky - you can't check it offhand in the store and you can't get the truth from the manager (and often, in all honesty, how much do they know our managers themselves? You can dig faster in the net) or by experience ... Now the brand is finally not an indicator. My first stove cost 40 bucks, the new 60 - they work out their blessings! (and if something was wrong? well, it’s a shame, of course, but this is not the money that you slapped for the brand and figs!)
Kuryanochka
Krosh, it's great that you are so lucky! I would also be happy if at least the bread would not be scorched !!!!

IRR! Probably it is. I have a full feeling that they collected it somewhere in the bushes!

In my "Borodinsky" mode after the signal for sprinkling the loaf with coriander in a few minutes she kneads the whole thing !!!! Circus and more! Everything is messed up.

By the way, it is possible that in some cities products of such "quality" do not get at all!
We have established a sales channel for us and forward. For some reason, all the shelves are very obsessively packed with mulinexes. And the seller, when I came to buy Zelmer's mom, by the way, was successful so far, he wanted to offer Mulinex, but from my reaction he immediately understood (I didn't even say anything): "I see you made your choice."

Perhaps for many, this unit works great, but after reading in the topic about buckets, what low-quality components of the mixers, and I also have sweets leaking under the oil seal, I’m just wondering how long it will last me ...

Producers are also not profitable. to make it work forever. So they hooked us up like a drug on homemade bread, the oven will break down completely, I’ll go like a nice new one to take, as a basic necessity.
Kuryanochka
Quote: gypsy

Foty, go ahead! Then everything will be fair, otherwise one is doing well, while the other is the opposite.

Well foty then I have to assure the notary! And then suddenly I pulled them from the Internet or burned a loaf in the oven! Take my word for it ...
IRR
Quote: Kuryanochka

Producers are also not profitable. to make it work forever. So they hooked us up like a drug on homemade bread, the oven will break down completely, I’ll go like a nice new one to take, as a basic necessity.
Kuryanochka! If you talk like that, then it is not profitable for dentists to put good seals, and to give out free knowledge to teachers in the classroom - let our children go to paid electives ... This is your insult to you. It will bother you while you have this unsuccessful stove in front of your eyes - my advice in a friendly way - hide it in the farthest corner and go to the store and buy yourself a stove for 50 bucks (we will help you google what successful copies we had) , because this is one torment to bake bread on such a unit. And for the experience, including the negative one, you have to pay - you paid with the Mulinex stove. And how many times did each of us do this ... Well, well ... it happens, buy another stove and move on. And you have already spoiled the reputation of Mulinex with your topic here. You took revenge on him in full, you can have no doubt about it. Feedback from users is a big deal. I only focus on them when I need to make my choice. So, after reading your posts - I would never have chosen Mulya - let 20 positive posts be on your 1 post. It is done. just do not be bitter, you need to bake bread with a light heart
Gypsy
Quote: Kuryanochka

Well foty then I have to assure the notary! And then suddenly I pulled them off the Internet or burned a loaf in the oven! Take my word for it ...
Words are words, but it's better to see once. On many x \ n I formed my opinion precisely from the photo of bread.
Here you are:
Quote: Mila007

The crust is not baked on top, moreover.
As soon as I see a photo of such bread, and even from an expensive eminent stove, I love my china even more
Crochet
Quote: Kuryanochka

In my "Borodinsky" mode after the signal for sprinkling the loaf with coriander in a few minutes she kneads the whole thing !!!! Circus and more! Everything is messed up.

Kuryanochka
You will laugh, but it’s the same for me, though it doesn’t "knead", but makes a few turns with the stirrers. It seems that it was conceived, in order to press the sprinkling a little into the dough, anyway, when proofing / lifting, it turns out to be all on top. Or do you just have a full-fledged kneading?
P.S. For the sake of fairness, I note that I have not used the "Borodino bread" mode for a long time, so I cannot remember how long the so-called kneading lasts after sprinkling the top of the loaf with coriander seeds ... but I will clarify on occasion!
IRR
Quote: gypsy

and even from an expensive eminent stove, then I love my china even more

Gypsy!you forgot to clarify "then I love my china for 50 bucks even more "China it can be expensive. From the modern oral people. creativity -

"God created - the world, everything else is made in China"
Kuryanochka
Quote: Krosh

Kuryanochka
You will laugh, but it’s the same for me, though it doesn’t "knead", but makes a few turns with the stirrers. It seems that it was conceived, in order to press the sprinkling into the dough a little,

To be honest, I thought it was just my confusion about Borodinsky. And the regime is not successful, it turns out black bread worse than the same recipe in Omega 3 or French (it even turns out convex in it!)

I can't post a photo of a burnt cake, because I don't want to bake it again, and heavily fried bread will not surprise anyone here. But my stove still has a plus, and quite large, it bakes everything !!!!
I'm not going to get upset anymore when I break down, too, I'm not upset. there will be an argument to buy a new one, with the models there are already preferences, thank God the site will not leave in trouble. will tell you if that!

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