Anastasenok
Foty, rub with a melamine sponge? There is a video about them on YouTube
Foty
Fotya, rub it with a melamine sponge? There is a video about them on YouTube
Cielito lindo
Good day, members of the forum! The other day I finally received a thermometer for the oven and with its help I tested my oven (Moulinex), if the thermometer does not lie, the oven shows the temperature correctly. It just heats up to the set values ​​for about 10-15 minutes. Moreover, at first, the arrow hardly moves, and then abruptly goes to the set temperature. This is normal? I thought the warm-up was going faster ...
Mila56
Quote: Cielito Lindo
This is normal?
Yes, good. Heating is not instantaneous, but after a while, well, and the full temperature does not immediately pick up. This is all normal. An ordinary gas oven (gas stove) and the same ordinary electric stove (small tabletop), they all gradually gain temperature. Happy baking !!!
Vasilevich
Quote: Mila56
And the baking time is always counted from the beginning, that is, from 0 degrees, and not after the oven reaches the set temperature.
Do you need time to set yourself from 0 degrees? And then my oven first picks up the temperature, and only then turns on the countdown.
Mila56
Quote: Vasilievich
And then my oven first picks up the temperature, and only then turns on the countdown.
I have not tested such stoves, I am not familiar with them. And in mine, when you turn on the usual mechanical timer, the time starts counting.
Quote: Mila56
And the baking time is always counted from the beginning, that is, from 0 degrees, and not after the oven reaches the set temperature.
Vasilevich, after all, I wrote nonsense (I am sitting from the night shift, and there is no one to send to sleep, the thinker does not work, wants to sleep
), then we preheat the stove, so the time does not start from 0 degrees. Now I will remove all unnecessary things so as not to confuse people.
Vasilevich
Quote: Mila56
we preheat the stove, so the time does not start from 0 degrees.
This is a good clarification, otherwise everything seems to work out and at the same time doubt crept in. Thank you. :-)
Mila56
Quote: Vasilievich
and then everything seems to work out and at the same time doubt crept in.
Yes, sometimes I can confuse myself and others, unintentionally of course You shouldn't always believe me Trust, but check
Vasilevich
Quote: Mila56
unintentionally of course
No problem, enjoy your stay. :-)
LisaNeAlisa
Good day. Does anyone use a top stove? I want a stove in the garden and rush between buying a separate tile and a separate mini-oven and buying a stove right away with combs.
Mila56
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
I want a stove in the garden and rush between buying a separate tile and a separate mini-oven and buying a stove right away with combs.
You can buy a stove with top pancake shades. Only at least this stove is designed for the simultaneous operation of all tendes (in the chamber with the upper ones at the same time) .... it is better to turn on only the upper burners or only those in the chamber. If you turn on everything at the same time, there may be overheating in the email. plug, in the wire, in short, an overload may occur. Well, choose the stove for purchase that is larger and heavier in power. Otherwise, the metal is thin, you put a full pan on top, and the metal will bend.
LisaNeAlisa
Ludmila, thanks, I will think further. I am inclined somehow to separate devices. Those with pancakes do not inspire confidence in me ...
pushkar
Today I went and watched 2 SIMFER 4558 stoves and also with beautiful handles, they are all good and I would take it, but what did not suit me, they all do not have a spit, I am surprised, there are a lot of models and not a single one with a spit. The rest is in bulk for 6 programs.
And the distance from the bottom of the posad. to the upper heating elements, I think, see 22, since from the heating element to the heating element according to the passport 240. This does not suit me. And the stoves are super externally. Who will tell you good models with a large internal camera and data, so that everything is.
From 5000 to 12000r
Darkfly
LisaNeAlisa, you should take into account when choosing that in many ovens the top pancakes are turned on with a timer and their temperature is not regulated! Scarlett and Polaris have it checked. So pay attention. I would take two devices separately
LisaNeAlisa
Darkfly, Thank you. I'm looking at simphera now. We must decide before the end of the week, my mother's birthday is on Saturday, we will celebrate in the garden, I want to come there with the oven.
pushkar
Finally, I ordered the oven.
Appearance like this, there is everything.Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

Power 1.80 kW
Temperature range - 30-230 ° C
Complete set - grate, baking sheet with holder, drain pan
Control type - electronic
Overall dimensions - 502х335х454 mm
Voltage - 220/50/1
Body material stainless. steel
LisaNeAlisa
Yuriwhere did you order?
pushkar
To be honest, a friend ordered from another city to my address. I know that a company that supplies kitchen equipment. in cafes and restaurants. it goes like a convection oven. Gemlux firm. Swiss company, type in Yandex, whose brand and everything about it.
Located in Moscow.
Price-9530r.
Now I phoned him, a company called - Empire of kitchen equipment.
There, the price for such ovens is the smallest of the entire market.
There is also one for 42 liters and 5 pieces for 26 and 25 liters with ready-made programs up to 25 progs.
in my 8 programs.
selenа
Quote: pushkar
Gemlux
I wrote about this stove, mine with programs, very happy with it

🔗

pushkar
Yes, but this is another from the same series. she has 11 programs.
mine has 8, but mine is 38 liters and yours is 25 or 26 liters. and by tempera. rather from 40 gr.
Flaesh
Quote: seamstress
Does anyone have a Redber 4510? What can you say about him?
And another question - does the Redbers put the baking sheet in the grooves of the oven or on the wire rack?
The baking sheet fits into the grooves!)

Hello dear bakers! Take a newcomer to a friendly family :-)
I have been reading the forum for several years now, as someone here aptly put it, "sitting in the bushes"
I read this topic inside and out, about the Redber 4510 and did not find a response, so I will be the first.
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Briefly about the characteristics: temperature from 0 to 230, 45 liters, no convection, 3 modes: top, bottom, top + bottom. Basically, I was looking for it without convection, since I mainly need it for bread.
First of all, I checked the temperature, because here many said that the mini-ovens lie +/- 30 degrees.
In the top + bottom mode with a stone, it accelerates to 250 degrees. The minimum is really 25 (room), which is great.
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It gets hot from the top outside quite strongly, you can get burned.
What I didn’t like was that I baked with steam, so all this steam came out through the cracks around the door, the door did not fit tightly.
Well, you can get used to it, probably ... more steam or a cap.

A question for experts, is it possible to somehow seal this gap, or is it needed for something?
pushkar
Quote: Flaesh

The baking sheet fits into the grooves!)

Hello dear bakers! Take a newcomer to a friendly family :-)
I have been reading the forum for several years now, as someone here aptly put it, "sitting in the bushes"
I read this topic inside and out, about the Redber 4510 and did not find a response, so I will be the first.
Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
Briefly about the characteristics: temperature from 0 to 230, 45 liters, no convection, 3 modes: top, bottom, top + bottom. Basically, I was looking for it without convection, since I mainly need it for bread.
First of all, I checked the temperature, because here many said that the mini-ovens lie +/- 30 degrees.
In the top + bottom mode with a stone, it accelerates to 250 degrees. The minimum is really 25 (room), which is great.
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It gets hot from the top outside quite strongly, you can get burned.
What I didn’t like was that I baked with steam, so all this steam came out through the cracks around the door, the door did not fit tightly.
Well, you can adjust, probably ... more steam or a cap.

A question for experts, is it possible to somehow seal this gap, or is it needed for something?
The oven is good, I would take it with convection, with steam it's a long conversation, I bake it myself with steam. What stone do you have.
So my oven came to me.
It's just super, everything works well, pay attention to the spindle in the chamber, a small pin, this is a temperature sensor of them 2, one at the top, the other at the bottom. There are 8 installed. programs. And the proofing of the dough costs 35 gr. but mlzhno put and 30gr. milk kefir and so on, the rest for everything else.
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Firecracker
pushkar, very beautiful oven! what model is it?
pushkar
Quote: Firefighter

pushkar, very beautiful oven! what model is it?
Model 1838, and 1845 45 liters.

Guys, the main thing is to remove the temperature from the camera itself and not from the body of the stove.
I sold the microwave because of her, there is no place in the kitchen, there is a 10m kitchen and we are not happy, when we had 5 meters in Baku and lived nothing.
And everyone says we live badly. I imagine someone who has kitchens 15-30 meters long, or maybe more.
mowgli
where did they get their stoves?
pushkar
Quote: mowgli
where did they get their stoves?
We wrote a little higher. Roll back a couple of pages.
zabu
Thank you all for Temko !!!! With your help, overcoming a bunch of doubts, I bought the AVEX TY350BСL Mini-oven. At one time, I threw a working electric stove with an oven in the trash. She was shocked. Then a few years later, when they walked around the apartments with marks on the working plates, the employees said, you shouldn't have done it, we would have repaired it for free. Instead, they bought a mortise plate with glass ceramics and my favorite Whirpool microwave oven. But my mom fucked it up and it's now mainly used as a microwave and for baking pizza. The pizza is great. But the pies and biscuit in it are not very good. I decided to buy a mini oven for baking.
First impressions - it bakes normally, but the glass is warming up (it is thick but single-chamber, top and sides. It heats the kitchen well. In winter, when you bake = don't freeze for sure. Volume of 35 liters just.
The biscuit turned out super-fluffy, and the currants at the bottom turned into jam. What was needed.
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Flaesh
Quote: pushkar

What stone do you have.
Clinker tiles from a hardware store 30x30x11
pushkar

I have the same floor tiles in a large oven, cut 3 pieces. for a reserve, one has already cracked due to steam, by the way 2 thermozabu, meters as you have the same cracked due to steam, so be careful with steam.
zabu, At first I wanted to take the same Avex, but attacked what I attacked, ex. oven, I think so.
Flaesh
pushkar, thanks for the warning!!!
pushkar
Today I finished the installation of the shelf under the TV set to put the oven compactly. so now it looks like nothing.
I had to cut off the spices.
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Mila56
Quote: zabu
The biscuit turned out super-fluffy, and the currants at the bottom turned into jam.
It looks appetizing.





Quote: pushkar
Today I finished the installation of the shelf under the TV set to put the oven compactly.
Yes, there was a TV set in this corner and I used to have it, only on the tabletop. And now I have put a tabletop oven in this place of honor, that is, like yours. And above the stove, a wall cabinet and a TV had to be hung in another corner, and it was convenient for me to watch it in the same place. But the plans are to rebuild everything, rearrange, since not all equipment is on the countertop, you will have to add it. But the stove, of course, must have a stationary place. Is the shelf purchased or homemade?
pushkar
I want to inform you that on Ali you can buy drums for grilling in a mini oven with a spit.
The central pin of your stove is used, and a drum with skewers or just a drum for frying all nuts or potatoes is put on it.






Quote: Mila56
Is the shelf purchased or homemade?
The shelf is homemade, made from 10 am to lunchtime. The shelf itself is made of laminate flooring, it is strong, and under it there are two planks as a support. All from the remnants of the repair.
Solidus
Good day to all!
I choose a stove for myself, I need it as a full-fledged oven, there will be a lot of types of work for it, since I live in a private house with my own garden, etc. Now I stopped at Rommelsbacher BG 1550, visually it seems of high quality and it seems like the Germans have reviews on it generally positive.
But I was interested in the above Gemlux 1838, the brand, as I understood specifically for the CIS, there is very little information on it, and specifically on this stove, except for the recall of t-shcha Pushkar, there is no information at all.She certainly looks very decent, but how is she doing? Of course, the functionality is very captivating in comparison with BG 1550, temperature ranges, separate control of shadows, etc. On the other hand, I came across information on a similar Gemlux 1500, where the author says that it bakes badly and the service said that this is the norm.
In general, the flour of choice, can anyone give good advice, please?
selenа
Solidus, if there is really a lot of work for the oven, then the desktop will not save you, alas, it is better to buy a full-fledged installation, because in the oven and jars they sterilize and boil jam and many other non-specific work for it, but this is my opinion
Solidus
There is an old gas one for such work, but for obvious reasons it is not suitable for cooking anything. The mini oven was also chosen because of its size, since there is not much space, plus I plan to use it instead of a microwave as much as possible.
selenа
The main purpose of the microwave for most users is to quickly warm up, in the oven it takes a long time and is not advisable and not economical, and so, if there is another oven for rough work, then a tabletop cupcake or pizza is quite suitable, but Romelbacher 1550 for 30 liters is not very large, I had 42, I did not have enough goose or a large piece of boiled pork to bake.




Quote: Solidus
Gemlux 1500
I now have this model, it bakes beautifully pizzas, pies, biscuits. I don't bake meat and fish in it.
mowgli
tell me, who has what capacity of the furnace? I still can't decide on the displacement
selenа
I have 26 liters now, but I bake very little.
mowgli
I have a microwave 24, it seems small to me
selenа
mowgli, small of course, but everyone has their own needs, 42 liters is optimal for a tabletop oven
pushkar
Quote: Solidus

Good day to all!
I choose a stove for myself, I need it as a full-fledged oven, there will be a lot of types of work for it, since I live in a private house with my own garden, etc. Now I stopped at Rommelsbacher BG 1550, visually it seems of high quality and it seems like the Germans have reviews on it generally positive.
But I was interested in the above Gemlux 1838, the brand, as I understood it specifically for the CIS, there is very little information on it, and specifically on this stove, except for the recall of t-shcha Pushkar, there is no information at all. She certainly looks very decent, but how is she doing? Of course, the functionality is very captivating in comparison with BG 1550, temperature ranges, separate control of shadows, etc. On the other hand, I came across information on a similar Gemlux 1500, where the author says that he bakes badly and the service said that this is the norm.
In general, the flour of choice, can anyone give good advice, please?
So far, everything works for me, but nothing has passed. for you there on their website they have 45 liters and 11 programs.
I wanted to order a similar one in China, or it's a copy or my own brand, but the delivery system there is too dark with payment of money by weight of the goods. The advantages of Gemlux for those. data. -two ten W-shaped, 2 temperature sensors, which none on our market has, I looked through about a hundred. The temp is set for 8 programs. fiction. do not. change of tempera. one degree each Today I ordered two drums for her, for a barbecue and for all kinds of nuts and potatoes. Double glass. Pallet with enamel, lining inside. On YouTube, she goes like a housewife.
Trendy
Flaesh, Yana, please tell me where you bought your Redber? I've been looking for her for a long time, but nowhere. I have a smaller Redber, but its size is not enough for me.
Anastasenok
Solidus, I have a 42-liter built-in Samsung oven plus microwave. And it bakes with dignity and is used for heating several times a day. It looks decent. You can temporarily leave it on the table, and then remake a cabinet for a gas surface and a built-in cabinet. How to fence a vegetable garden. And the desktop in your home is aspirational
pushkar
Anastasenok,
They would put up the pictures as arranged, it would be useful for many, the problem of allocating space for everyone is relevant.
I've sold a microwave oven, and it is very necessary for heating, especially liquids. mostly tea, (for me)
Solidus
pushkar, How about the overall quality of the stove? Backlash, gaps, creaks, etc., or is everything okay with this case? So I really liked this stove in terms of functionality, there is simply no information at all about it and the brand as a whole, I don't know where to wait for the pitfalls.
pushkar
I don't know myself. outwardly everything is solid. Lyapov did not find it at all. Well assembled, nothing staggers.
I myself am surprised that there is little information about them and their equipment, but they produce a lot of kitchen equipment, of all kinds and types.
On request, whose brand, gives out Switzerland, but manuf. in China.
Anastasenok
pushkar, nothing unusual in the arrangement. Oven under the countertop. It makes no sense to post. But I really liked the idea of ​​combining, I don't want to give up the microwave, but I managed to replace two devices with one gadget perfectly. In 42 liters, there are quite decent two baking sheets and any shape. I also sterilize the cans by microwave, very convenient and fast
Mila56
Quote: mowgli
tell me, who has what capacity of the furnace?
I have a 30 liter stove. I bought such a volume just for baking.
Quote: selenа
I had 42, I did not have enough goose or a large piece of boiled pork to bake.
Exactly . To bake meat dishes, you need to have more volume, so I do it in a gas oven.
And it also seems to me that the indicated volume of the stove is general, and not useful. Maybe I am mistaken, but purely visually, I cannot say that the chamber of my stove is 30 liters





Last night I baked a yeast dough pie with cherries and apples. Already at 11 pm I was taking pictures on my phone, so with a shadow.Tabletop ovens, stoves ...




Tabletop ovens, stoves ... The dough is easy to prepare. I used it to make a pie with meat and fish.




The author of this pie is Mandarinka @ and its full name is Quick Yeast Cherry Pie. I used to bake it in the Miracle oven (fish and meat), it just holds one portion of the dough. And for a tabletop stove, I increased everything by 1.5 times.




Link to this pie

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=437678.0

pushkar
Who will tell you what are the symbols that define the shades. With two lines or one, everything is clear.
There are also wavy lines in my passport on my stove. described in the same way, only their temperature regime is different.

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