How and how to clean the stove / bucket

We have never washed our oven and bucket (we do not cook jam). We don't even wipe it with a rag and don't see the need. Normal working condition. The bread was baked - I shook it out, put the bucket in place. I need to bake a new one - I took out a bucket, broke off a crouton under the shoulder blade and forward) And so already 2 years (Outside, of course, the white plastic is mine)

Baked only 2 times so far. The sides of the bucket are almost clean - I just wipe it wet. The spatula always sticks - as per the instructions, I pour warm water for a couple of minutes and that's all.

after the bucket has cooled, I pour water into it, leave it for 20 minutes and wash it with just a soft washcloth without detergents
I wipe the stove inside with a damp cloth

I decided to take a picture of my x / n from the back to show the yellowness. And there is no longer yellowness, but a brown spot:

looked at myself, yeah, there is a stain, wiped it with a damp cloth, no stain

And the fact is that, like many others, the inner surface of the stove was covered with dark brown spots, even with carbon deposits.

at the very beginning of using the stove, I refilled it in the process of kneading milk, naturally part of it was splashed onto the walls and then it burned, as I could, wiped it off with a rag, smudges are a little visible, but they do not bother me
but in general, I try not to get into such a technique with chemical means, which is not rubbed off, let it stay, anyway no one except me sticks his nose into the bread maker

Tell me please!!!
I was very wrong when I decided to clean my stove inside with Amway (for ovens).
They advertised it to me so much that I, like a deaf and dumb person, took the oven from the inside and prayed ... in general, the result is disastrous - the inner coating seemed to be corroded (((with stains, stains, it is clear that it was partially "eaten". I haven't noticed any influence on baking yet. ...
Can you help with advice? Is it possible to restore the coating somehow and is it necessary?
the view is terrible of course now ... but the main thing is that it does not affect the baking processes ... what do you think?
thanks for the answer.

Is it possible to restore the coating somehow and is it necessary?
the view is terrible of course now ... but the main thing is that it does not affect the baking processes ... what do you think?

What's done is done ... there is no need to restore the coating, this should not affect the quality of the bread, so do not worry too much. The main thing is that the bucket remains intact. I hope you did not process it with Amveev's dauber?

the bucket itself did not touch, thank God! It shines with me by itself, I wipe it with water and a cloth, without means. Somehow I put it in the dishwasher, and so the bottom gizmo is round, well, in general, which is inserted into the oven itself, it turned black for me, like a bloom of chtoli ... I got all soiled with this blackness, wiped it off with a dry cloth - I don’t put it in the dishwasher anymore his.
Well, the oven itself after the vaunted Amway is such a terrible inside, horror. Even everyone who accidentally sees me open the stove is surprised ... as after the atomic bombing. But now it is definitely not necessary to wash it, because nothing is visible on it, and so the dirt and blackness.

[milasha]

Girls, remember once and for all - aluminum alloys (of which the buckets and the insides of the stoves) cannot be cleaned by any aggressive means, the more alkaline type! In the dishwasher, the same aggressive alkaline chemistry, also aggravated by high temperatures! The same applies to dishes and kitchen appliances made of aluminum alloys!

The limit of alkaline chemistry for aluminum is baking soda, which must be thoroughly rinsed off immediately!

The cheapest metal cookware is aluminum (more precisely, from aluminum alloys).It is strong enough, food rarely burns in it and milk almost never, finally, it is very light and therefore indispensable in the everyday life of tourists, when traveling out of town and in the country.
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For cleaning aluminum cookware, acidic and alkaline compounds are not suitable. The fact is that aluminum is a chemically active metal. It readily reacts with acids and alkalis to release hydrogen. For example, acetic acid converts metallic aluminum to an aluminum acetate salt; this produces hydrogen:
2Al + 6CH3COOH = 2Al (CH3COO) 3 + 3H2
Sodium hydroxide (caustic soda) in an aqueous solution reacts with aluminum to form a complex compound - hydroxoaluminate. This reaction is accompanied by the evolution of hydrogen:
2Al + 2NaOH + 6H2O = 2Na [Al (OH) 4] + 3H2

Aluminum is a soft metal, therefore, aluminum cookware cannot be cleaned with hard powders and pastes with sand and emery powder, as well as with metal brushes. This is especially true for aluminum cookware with a shiny metal (nickel) coating, which costs nothing to peel off with coarse abrasive powder. Aluminum dishes are best tolerated by washing in water with the addition of detergents for glass and porcelain dishes, soapy water, a solution of baking soda or borax with the addition of ammonia. In all cases, rinse the dishes thoroughly with water after washing.

The blackness on the surface of aluminum, which occurs when cooking vegetables, gets rid of by wiping the darkened surface with very diluted table vinegar or 5-10% baking soda solution, and then immediately rinse the dishes with water. Instead, you can pour cucumber pickle (you can dilute it with water), sour milk, or whey from homemade cottage cheese that contains lactic acid over a blackened saucepan. After 1-2 hours, all blackness will disappear, and the old saucepan will not be recognized.

Aluminum dishes can be "updated" using polishing pastes based on kaolin (white clay), tripoli fine powders, diatomaceous earth, "crocus", corundum. Oleic or stearic acid is used as binders in such pastes; sometimes a concentrated aqueous solution of ammonia, turpentine, kerosene are added. The polishing paste is applied to a leather pad and rubbed over the metal surface.
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milasha, if it's so scary and you are no longer afraid to make it worse, try to wipe it on a very small area with a cloth soaked in ordinary vinegar.

If you manage to renew the surface, do not be alarmed that after some time it will become dull - this is an extremely necessary oxide film.

[nut]

the bucket itself did not touch, thank God! It shines with me by itself, I wipe it with water and a cloth, without means. Somehow I put it in the dishwasher, and so the bottom gizmo is round, well, in general, which is inserted into the oven itself, it turned black for me, like a bloom of chtoli ... I got all soiled with this blackness, wiped it off with a dry cloth - I don’t put it in the dishwasher anymore his.
Well, the oven itself after the vaunted Amway is such a terrible inside, horror. Even everyone who accidentally sees me open the stove is surprised ... as after the atomic bombing. But now it is definitely not necessary to wash it, because nothing is visible on it, and so the dirt and blackness.

Maybe this is bad advice, but I remember that nut scrubbed her bucket outside with shumanite to a new state.

IMHO:

I have a question: why scrub to a new state what works for us every day? To make it seem that the stove is just from the store?
Who will you entrust to repair your car - a "mechanic" in clean clothes and with manicured hands? Or someone who has oil stains on their overalls and hands? A real cook will smell like kitchen, and there will be corresponding marks on the clothes, from a fake one, at best, the jacket will not smell like anything.

In addition, we bake bread, including in order to reduce the amount of all chemicals in our diet. And about what remains after such chemistry (such as products for ovens, shumanites, etc.)do we forget? It is not completely washed off the surfaces afterwards! There will always be some traces of this very chemistry ...

Amway oven cleaner is very good, I washed all the pots with it. You yourself are to blame, now I looked specifically, it says on it - use only for ovens with an enamel coating.

Amway oven cleaner is very good, I washed all the pots with it. You yourself are to blame, now I looked specifically, it says on it - use only for ovens with an enamel coating.

after the fight, they don't wave their hands: no one is looking for the guilty here, and no one says about the remedy "how bad it is." We are trying to solve an already existing problem.

I have a terrible smell after the amway stood in the bread maker, barely disappeared. And in the oven 5 times I cooked with a smell. The oven was not washed to perfection anyway. It is enameled inside.
It would have been better with soot, but the smell was really "necessary".
I have nothing to wash to a shine in the bread maker, if only I try to restore it. Thanks for the info, I will print it now and I will start.

Try table vinegar 3%, or even diluted at least three times. That is, start with a divorced one.

* JOKINGLY * I wipe clean and dry with a napkin

IMHO:

I have a question: why scrub to a new state what works for us every day? To make it seem that the stove is just from the store?
Who will you entrust to repair your car - a "mechanic" in clean clothes and with manicured hands? Or someone who has oil stains on their overalls and hands? A real cook will smell like kitchen, and there will be corresponding marks on the clothes, from a fake one, at best, the jacket will not smell like anything.

In addition, we bake bread, including in order to reduce the amount of all chemicals in our diet. Do we forget about what remains after such chemistry (such as means for ovens, shumanites, etc.)? It is not completely washed off the surfaces afterwards! There will always be some traces of this very chemistry ...

We had a Panas 2500 and a few scratches appeared in the bucket (apparently the grandma did her best). Who knows how toxic this coating is? Is it better not to risk your health and buy a new one? Or leave it as it is ...

Let it be as it is. The toxicity of non-stick coatings has been talked about for more than a decade, but real evidence. The only thing that I saw from very specific experiments was the release of some kind of rubbish when (attention!) Dry heating the pan red-hot and actually peeling off the coating. Well, until black smoke, you will not heat an empty mold in a bread maker?

Unless, I would not advise preparing jam and compotes from very sour fruits in a heavily peeled bucket. The bucket is made of aluminum alloy, and he doesn't like acids very much (see the previous page of the topic).

Ok, thanks for the advice. Toad is choking to buy a new bucket. It's really easier to buy a new stove.

We had a Panas 2500 and a few scratches appeared in the bucket (apparently the grandma did her best). Who knows how toxic this coating is? Is it better not to risk your health and buy a new one? Or leave it as it is ...

Use and do not worry, the buckets are scratched, for many, this does not affect the quality of the bread, nor does it affect health. Exhaust fumes from a car or inhalation of tobacco smoke are much more harmful

Hello everybody.
I look at my stove and feel so sorry for it:

I used to try to wash it, I used up all my wife's supplies of detergents - no use.
Simple remedies do not take it, but on all strong alkaline there is such a malicious notation "except aluminum"
Today I saw this bottle on the shelf in the garage, bought it about 6 years ago, read it and did not see a word about aluminum.

I sprayed my wet nurse, waited 15 minutes (according to the instructions) and began to wipe

I tore for twenty minutes, first with a cotton swab, then with a sponge for washing dishes, where there was a strong carbon deposit, tore it off with a plastic fountain pen without a rod (very convenient), then took it to the bathroom, put it on the basin, so that there would be a slight slope for water drainage and washed everything with rain from within


I liked the result and I took up the bucket. I stuffed a cellophane bag inside and stuffed it with rags so that all this would not get on Teflon, since its reaction to m / s. not predictable. I finished the bucket in less than 5 minutes:

And here is the result - our nurse is like new

(well, almost like new)
Maybe someone will come in handy before Easter - I will be glad

vladimirIl and what is the "age" of your stove?

Today I saw this bottle on the shelf in the garage, bought it about 6 years ago, read it and did not see a word about aluminum.

Naturally, a means for cleaning a car engine, half of the engines have an aluminum (alloy) block ...

Replacing shumanite It's just that pouring water into the "insides" is dangerous to the health of CP. It would be better to disassemble and wash separately.

vladimirIl and what is the "age" of your stove?

Naturally, a means for cleaning a car engine, half of the engines have an aluminum (alloy) block ...

Replacing shumanite It's just that pouring water into the "insides" is dangerous to the health of CP. It would be better to disassemble and wash separately.

8 months, bakes bread 4-5 times a week
Disassembling, in my opinion, is more dangerous, I tilted it so that there was a drain of water and everything is fine, the night stood open, if the water got a little inside, it dried out.

And the heads of the block are all aluminum, in any case, in more than a dozen cars that I had, I did not meet the steel heads of the block
In the last two, Renault Espice generally became at least

I'm just talking about the block of cylinders ... On my Vols, cast iron.

And it is LEGENDLY to disassemble not more dangerous.

I reread the whole topic, probably only I, in the old fashion, successfully wash a lot with ordinary laundry soap already ashamed ... My stove is half a year, the only time it was cleaned with a steam cleaner (with a nozzle brush or a thin nose). It took 5 minutes for the whole cover, but without chemicals. In the photo: the left side was cleaned with steam, the right side with a well-known fat remover in the letter F.

The beauty. Steam is what you need.

Z / S A letter must be changed to another, next

I reread the whole topic, probably only I, in the old fashioned way, have successfully washed a lot with ordinary laundry soap already ashamed ...

Not alone. And my principle is, the less chemistry, the better. We are already being poisoned from all sides, if we ourselves will poison ourselves, then a khan will come to humanity. This, of course, is for another Temka, but somehow a representative of Amway advertised to me a super-duper product for the kitchen. I found several old stains of fat behind the stove and offered to compare it and soap ... Soap-steers. (y) These comrades do not offer me anything else.

I don’t understand what to wash with HP, she has been in the ground. Meaning? It will still color with malt and caramelized sugar. Now, if you decide to sell or to the VDNKh exhibition in Moscow, then it is vital

I don’t understand what to wash with HP, she has been in the ground. Meaning? It will still color with malt and caramelized sugar. Now, if you decide to sell or to the VDNKh exhibition in Moscow, then it is vital

My friend washes her appliances longer than she cooks in them. But they are even now on the store shelf.

Perfectionism - in psychology, the belief that the best result can (or should) be achieved. In a pathological form - the belief that an imperfect result of work is unacceptable. It can be either a "normal" personality characteristic or a neurotic mental disorder.

Amway oven cleaner is very good, I washed all the pots with it. You yourself are to blame, now I looked specifically, it says on it - use only for ovens with an enamel coating.

I have already washed it twice with this Amway-it shines like new, I really applied the product and immediately wiped it with a cloth, and then the instructions for the product say that to neutralize it, wipe it with vinegar .. I like the Amvey product ... I cleaned it after the bread was degree, I ran away, that the dough was stuck to the walls, I am silent about the lid ..

[Andrzej nov]

Andrzej nov, I agree It washes only fresh fat. If the cleaning effect depends on the number of surfactants included in the composition of the product, then the results of the experiments showed: soap reduces the surface tension of water by 2.5 times, all products - by 2.8 times the maximum. When washed, this difference is not noticeable.

I found several old stains of fat behind the stove and offered to compare it and soap ... Soap-steers.

Yes, I smeared the cast-iron "black" duck with soap + soda, the carbon peeled off with a film, now it is "silvery" again. It is a pity that HP is made of aluminum, and even there are all sorts of holes in which it is better not to get soapy water. And steam is steam, dried up and left no traces.
I want to warn you: yesterday I cleaned one greasy pad, which looks like 100% aluminum, so if you heat one place for a long time with steam, it starts to darken. But the main task was to wash off the fat, and I think to remove the blackness with a lemon ...

Who does not want to clean the stove - let him not interfere with others scrubbing it until the last speck disappears and at the same time having fun. It's just nice to bring beauty to me. You can throw buckets from HP, but I will wash mine until I clean everything. For me, it cannot be washed a little - or perfectly clean, or stained, there is no third way. Even the smallest drip, which is not visible behind the heating element, will grieve me somewhere in the depths of my soul.

[Wasp]

I don’t understand what to wash with HP, she has been in the ground. Meaning? It will still color with malt and caramelized sugar. Now, if you decide to sell or to the VDNKh exhibition in Moscow, then it is vital

Who does not want to clean the stove - let him not interfere with others scrubbing it until the last speck disappears and at the same time having fun. It's just nice to bring beauty to me. You can throw buckets from HP, but I will wash mine until I clean everything. For me, it cannot be washed a little - or perfectly clean, or stained, there is no third way. Even the smallest drip, which is not visible behind the heating element, will grieve me somewhere in the depths of my soul.

Once again I am convinced - how great it is that in the world people are all different, each has its own set of thoughts, which also changes over time!

Carbon deposits on the stove are terrible, but how lazy to clean it. Every time you think - well, now is the last time and that's it, I'll clean it. But no, and the further, the more. It is no longer a speck that has to be cleaned, but a speck!
Wasp, I admire your perseverance and hard work! It’s a pity that I’m not like that myself and often think sazalexter... But if my hands reach, soda is the surest remedy for me!

the only time it was cleaned with a steam cleaner (with a nozzle brush or a thin nozzle). It took 5 minutes for the whole cover, but without chemicals.

And what really cleans the steam cleaner so well? : pardon: I'm ready to spend 10 minutes if the cotton is cleaned this way and not only. An excellent solution to the problem. Tomorrow I'll start buying a steam cleaner.

And what really cleans the steam cleaner so well?

The photo on the previous page is not Photoshop. Of course, it didn’t wear off in a moment, but by moving the brush in one place, you can see significant lightening - this is true. In some places in the corners it was left, where it did not crawl with a steam locomotive, but there it wiped it with a rag.

and to prevent these spots, or rather their appearance can somehow?
Do I need to wipe it every time?

Hello striped On my own, I noticed that if you do not put a drop of butter in the bread, then the walls remain spotlessly clean for 4-5 months, they do not turn yellow. Now I only wipe it from the remnants of flour and crumbs, and I bake fatty muffins in a slow cooker. I wipe the whole bucket (when I'm not lazy) with a damp cloth, and if it gets dirty where, then a little laundry soap on the cloth - and again cleanliness!

Please tell me, how do you wash the stove outside? I have a stainless steel, standing next to the gas. stove, a little splattered with oil ...

The help of specialists is very necessary. I baked an apple monster here, so there would be no way to check how the pie rose before baking, but I just started baking. The result - the roll took up all possible space inside (it rose unrealistically, apparently the heat works the way I took it out, it's a separate story altogether) and the worst thing - it burst and the filling of apples in sugar flowed down. At the bottom of the bread machine there is a huge sticky-burnt puddle.What to do? A damp cloth is not enough here. Or to score and it will burn out sooner or later?

At the bottom of the bread machine there is a huge sticky, burnt puddle. What to do? A damp cloth is not enough here. Or to score and it will burn out sooner or later?

I would put the stove on a barrel and scrub and wash this puddle out of there. Can you imagine how much she will burn out there herself? And the smell of burning at the same time ..

I clean everything with an oven brush, then wipe it with napkins and throw it away, and the stove is like new

Yesterday I honestly tried with a damp cloth - the result was zero. Today I risked a siph and a damp sponge. Almost everything was washed off, only a couple of small, completely burnt puddles remained (and I did not dare to scrape it openly). The heating elements seem to be almost clean. Now I will bake another cake (but half as much), let's see what happens.

Oh, familiar story! Here recently someone posted Strudel lazy in HP. Well, I decided to quickly bake such a loaf.
And she twisted it well, and put it neatly in a bucket, apparently she overdid it in jam. But my jam all ran out during baking.
My husband immediately turned the HP upside down so that all the jam would drain out. My Kenwood is rectangular and can be flipped steadily. Then she put it on the side and sprinkled with Faberly oven cleaner, washed everything well in the middle. I washed the nest especially carefully with cotton swabs, moistened them in alcohol.
Then it stood for a day and dried out in the heat.
Then the husband unrolled the bottom and watched that there was no jam on the motor.
It was then from him for my experiments: mad: I thought it would beat!

[nila]

nila, I was lucky - the whole puddle was located outside the nest. But on the other hand, it froze immediately and by the time the baking was finished, it was not flowing anywhere (

I have just the same trouble - the cake rose too much and fell out of the bucket. The dough got on the heating element, and the bottom with the walls was sealed, and into the turning mechanism (or whatever it is). The heating element has already begun to fry, in fact, by the smell, I ran to see what was already happening there. Is it possible to soak the heating elements and what? Scratching with something hard I'm afraid

Good day. I clean with a solution (gruel) of baking soda and hydrogen peroxide (I let the solution soak for 5-7 minutes). : mail1: Steam cleaner-death to bread makers (electronics, engine).

The inner walls of the bread machine and the lids can be easily and quickly cleaned with a melamine sponge.