Kneading paddles

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, damn it ... ambush: several times the spatula got stuck in the loaf ... and what happened is that a couple of times, unknowingly, they tried to "cut" it and cut it slightly ... does anyone know: is it really possible to buy a new one?

My shoulder blade was also cut at first, but it serves me normally after that. So don't be discouraged.

, damn it ... ambush: several times the spatula got stuck in the loaf ... and what happened is that a couple of times, unknowingly, they tried to "cut" it and cut it slightly ... does anyone know: is it really possible to buy a new one?

Buy is real. In Panasonic Plaza, order, if not immediately in stock and will be delivered. Only I, like Nadezhda, do not see much sense. Perhaps from aesthetic feelings. Apparently, the share is such at the shoulder blades, I also have a bit of a cut and tinkered with inept actions to extract it from the loaf, and nothing has served for more than 4 years.

thank you very much

A dream come true, but apparently I went ... that. I bought a Panasonic 255 today. I'm very upset. The backlash on the shoulder blade is about 30 degrees and the bucket is unstable inside. I'm afraid the stove can be returned? I had experience baking on LG 202, but everything is plump there. So I don't know what to do. Can someone an experienced one tell me?

yes ... my HP also has a little backlash. And unstable ... did you turn the bucket ?? it seems so fixed in the Panas. Insert, tighten until it stops. But maybe not for everyone ... but for the neighbors - just like that)) ...

And unstable ... did you turn the bucket ?? it seems so fixed in the Panas. Insert, tighten until it stops. But maybe not for everyone ... but for the neighbors - just like that)) ...

I tried, but apparently the bottom of the bucket does not fit into the grooves. And visually it stands straight, you touch it with your finger - it sways.

Hmmm ... the neighbors quite easily enters and turns .... and stands like a glove ... and my HP simply inserts, but there are two knives ... I suppose that you - a bucket - twisted it around? and so and so ...?

Hmmm ... the neighbors quite easily enters and turns .... and stands like a glove ... and my HP simply inserts, but there are two knives ... I suppose that you - a bucket - twisted it around? and so and so ...?

I tried my best. Tomorrow I'll think about it and try to bake the first loaf. Thank you for not ignoring it, I complained - I felt better.

the fact is that if you do not install the bucket as needed, the blade (s) drive will not work. And if they work, then everything is installed, possibly correct)) ....

Backlash on the shoulder blade is about 30 degrees ...

Well, as they say, from fear (disorder) the eyes are large ...
There is backlash and, at first glance, it is really big. But this is the norm.

And visually it stands straight, you touch it with your finger - it sways.

There is no rigid mount.

Well, as they say, from fear (disorder) the eyes are large ...
There is backlash and, at first glance, it is really big. But this is the norm.

I just measured it - the backlash is 34 degrees.

Backlash is a design feature. I never paid attention to a specific degree. I’ll come home to try.

Many thanks to everyone. The oven kneaded the dough wonderfully - quietly, calmly, without much twitching, but with a slight (even cute) whistle.

The bread turned out great the first time. Panasonic SD-255 is superb (albeit with big backlashes).

As promised, I measured the degree of backlash of the blade. I didn't pursue special accuracy - it turned out just over 30 degrees.
Again, the backlash is a design feature. The dough gets into the gap between the mixer and the shaft (due to the gap, in fact, the backlash), bakes and holds the mixer on the shaft, preventing it from remaining in the bread when it is shaken out of the bucket.

the presence of backlash is a design feature. The dough gets into the gap between the mixer and the shaft (due to the gap, in fact, the backlash), bakes and holds the mixer on the shaft, preventing it from remaining in the bread when it is shaken out of the bucket.

This scares me.In my pre-retirement days, when I was a designer, we called it "tractor planting". But, what is most interesting, in the LG 202 the mixer sits tightly on the shaft and this fact does not in any way affect the quality of baking and the removal of the finished bread from the mold.

In this case, it's not about tolerances and landings.
Each problem has at least two solutions. LG has its own, Panasonic has its own.
The fact that this is not a manufacturer's negligence, but a constructive solution, is prompted to me by the fact that the flat on the axis (I don’t know how in 255), but in my 207, has not a simple profile. Such that the trapped and baked dough will prevent the mixer from slipping when shaking out the bread.

The fact that this is not a manufacturer's negligence, but a constructive solution, is prompted to me by the fact that the flat on the axis (I don’t know how in 255), but in my 207, has not a simple profile. Such that the trapped and baked dough will prevent the mixer from slipping when shaking out the bread.

My stove also. I do not want to show my erudition, but a very shocking (for me personally) decision. And I like the stove. I have already baked 3 loaves of delicious bread and now put the dough on the pies.

Oh, girls, can you tell me where you can buy a stirrer for 255? And I also want to clarify: I understand that 253 is also suitable? if i take it? I don't know what to type in the search, the mixer wrote, so he gave me something wrong ...
And then the spouse got excited and threw out the mixer with the rye that did not work out, did not notice that it was sintered there and remained inside

I think that there are mixers in Panasonic service centers (IMHO, maybe it will be easier). Choose on the Internet which one is closer to your home. On the phone, you can probably find out if they have this spare part.

I understand that 253 is also suitable? if i take it? I don't know what to type in the search, the mixer wrote, so he gave me something wrong ...

They are absolutely the same, we even compared the pictures and the sizes, if possible, take the one on the 253

[Vakki]

Vakki, I ordered at Panasonic IdeaPlaza. They have a service center in the Novye Cheryomushki shopping center, right next to the metro. You can call them, or by registering on the site - order online. They can bring home or to any of their services. There seem to be 3 or 4 of them.

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You can also look at the PanaService website. It's just expensive there, but you can look at the article.
I quote from the site (this is for the 253rd, and is also suitable for the 255th):
Kneading spatula. test ADA04A105 470 rubles
Kneading spatula. rye. test ADD97G132 560 rubles.

Pay attention to the price! A spatula for ordinary dough in PanaPlaza costs 239r! And for rye - 195 ...

I have the same problem, it seems to me that the spatula began to dangle too much, the oven does not stir the flour for the second time and the bread does not rise, although a few days ago it turned out normal bread. After reading all the answers and tips, I calmed down, as a last resort I will try to insert a match.

I have the same problem, it seems to me that the spatula began to dangle too much, the oven does not stir the flour for the second time and the bread does not rise, although a few days ago it turned out normal bread. After reading all the answers and tips, I calmed down, as a last resort I will try to insert a match.

It won't take long to insert a match. Maybe not enough fluid? Backlash doesn't bother me now - I'm used to it

There is no need to insert any matches, unless you want to quickly ditch the motor of your HP. Since there is a backlash, it means that the designers have specially conceived it. On the clutch, transmitting torque to the blade, there is also a play of about 150 degrees, and it can also be eliminated, to be sure ... All these backlashes are made so that at the moment of starting the engine the load on it is minimal and it has time to spin "idle".

There is no need to insert any matches, unless you want to quickly ditch the motor of your HP. Since there is a backlash, it means that the designers have specially conceived it. On the clutch, which transmits torque to the blade, there is also a play of about 150 degrees, it can also eliminate it, so that for sure ...All these backlashes were made so that at the moment of starting the engine the load on it was minimal and it had time to spin up "idle".

I completely agree with you. Do not pay attention to this. This is how the manufacturer intended it.

Where is the clutch in the stove? The clutch is one thing and the belt drive is another. The Delonghi 125s has a belt drive. And the starting moment in the stove is not terrible for her. I don’t know how it was done in stoves of other firms. There is almost no backlash in delonghi.

Where is the clutch in the stove?

Maybe I put it wrong. What is the name of the unit that transmits the torque to the bucket blade shaft? IMHO the clutch is.

P.S. I found it right there on the site. Hitachi bread maker device:
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About replacing the blade!

How to order at the plaza?

Isn't it Teflon? It seems like if you cut Teflon, he starts Teflon and hurts?

[maqala]

maqala, go to the Panasonic IdeaPlaza website. And then there are two ways. Either register on it and place an order via the Internet, or call and order. They will call you back when the order arrives. It takes a long time, maybe 2 months or more. But he will definitely come. I ordered 2 scoops from them - we arrived

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Cut teflon is not a useful thing, but depending on how you cut it. If you scratch it slightly, you can. If the color does not change, the cut site does not rust - everything is fine. But after scratching, I bought a new spatula

Thank you...

And if you just pull out the blade before baking?

Will the order come straight to my place? or to them? and then you have to go to them?

And could you name the price?

Thank you...

And if you just pull out the blade before baking?

You need to take it out before the last proofing. If removed before baking, the bread will lose its shape.

When is the last proofing? say in the main program?

blade play due to the gap between the axis and the blade
As I understand it, the dough gets into the slot and when removing the loaf it does not allow the spatula to remain in the loaf

blade play due to the gap between the axis and the blade
As I understand it, the dough gets into the slot and, when removing the loaf, does not allow the spatula to remain in the loaf

The blade play, and quite significant, was made by the developer solely for reasons of trouble-free extraction of the blade from the shaft.

Can you bake recipes from 254 and 255 in 253? I was shown today, there are some interesting ones.

[Sugar]

Sugar, in general, on our website in any stove, you can use any recipes. And the Panasovskys' relatives - no problem at all

Class! I was confused. that 255 has modes that my 253 does not. For example, dietary. I also need to ask you to copy the table with modes. And then I liked bread with yogurt.

I also want to bake custard rye. At 253 rye mode - 3.5 hours. At 255 - 4, as I understand it. What is the best oven setting? Maybe the main one will do? He is also 4 o'clock at 253.

I also want to bake custard rye. At 253 rye mode - 3.5 hours. At 255 - 4, as I understand it. What is the best oven setting? Maybe the main one will do? He is also 4 o'clock at 253

Rye bread in Panasonic is easy to bake in a combination of two programs.
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In terms of composition and technology, this bread is far from real rye. I left experimenting with rye in the bread maker. I used to bake it on the hearth, as expected, with real sourdough. GOST breads. There is no time now. I'll wait until the Malish grows up.

In terms of composition and technology, this bread is far from real rye. I left experimenting with rye in the bread maker. I used to bake it on the hearth, as expected, with real sourdough. GOST breads. There is no time now. I'll wait until the Malish grows up.

Blessed is he who believes.
And he judges without baking.

the first times when I baked bread, the mixer itself came out of the loaf when the bucket was turned over. Now, no! I am tormented every time by taking out a stirrer from hot bread with helpers.And today, when picking out with this knife, I knocked off some of the coating from the mixer.

Dear signs, why did the mixer come out before? what is wrong now?

And how (by what means) do you get your stirrers out of the loaves?

I, too, when how. Sometimes it remains in bread. I take it out with improvised means, but mostly I get it with my hands. Sometimes I slightly pick something up.

Insert into the mixer hole:
-plastic (so as not to damage the coating) crochet hook
-in the same place a pencil of suitable diameter

Insert into the mixer hole:
-plastic (so as not to damage the coating) crochet hook
-in the same place a pencil of suitable diameter

Thanks for the idea, I have a lot of crochet hooks, it remains only to find them (I haven't knitted anything for a long time)

Now I don’t remember who, but here on the forum I was advised to pull out the mixer with a crochet hook, size 5. I found a hook of the 2nd size, although it is too small, but with it I also successfully remove the mixer.

Now I don’t remember who, but here on the forum I was advised to pull out the mixer with a crochet hook, size 5. I found a hook of the 2nd size, although it is too small, but with it I also successfully remove the mixer.

yes, a 5 would be fine.
I just started looking for hooks, but only thin ones were found,
I had to bend the old aluminum spoke (2.5 spoke size) with the help of the pliers. I tried to shove it into the mixer - everything seems to be ok. At the next baking, if the stirrer does not come out, I will use this hook, I think it will pull it out. In the end, if it doesn't help, I'll buy 5 hook)