Dynamite
Quote: Felix777
it is possible that they look similar but there are many modifications
Maybe so.
Quote: Felix777
my version is bad
We seem to be fine.
Caprice
Quote: Felix777
But it is extremely strange that the cars are represented by only two models, by and large, in the household segment.
Probably because dumplings are not an everyday dish in home cooking.
Felix777
Quote: Dynamite
We seem to be fine.
in this hole are small, you have to push with your fingers, or maybe another flour. As soon as flour is in excess it works better.
and if you can still try to adapt with the dough (although this is on the verge because minced meat / potatoes tear the tube out of the dough at a time, and why I am not overdosing my mind), then with minced meat (a mixture of a pig with beef 60/40) which does not fit into the tube submission is a shock ... really, a pure pig seemed to climb




Quote: Caprice
Probably because dumplings are not an everyday dish in home cooking.
They are strange ... and dumplings with potatoes? and 5 family members, 10-20 pieces per brother with normal filling, how fast?
Although my friend, a Chinese woman, sculpts from so quickly ... that I'm shocked. She definitely doesn't need a car.
Alex100
Quote: Caprice

Ravioli attachments in dough rollers are also, in my opinion, not the most convenient thing. Working with them is not easy enough. From my experience, it is more convenient to roll out the dough with a dough sheeter, and the ravioli are already formed by hand with ravioli boards.
But, this is my personal impression. Hope you can handle it better.

Irene, according to this algorithm I do) the device is really homemade for cutting down the dumplings themselves
pcs 200 in a couple of hours you can easily make it without straining, while watching TV) but the dough is thin with a maximum of filling and a beautiful product
Katerok87
Quote: Felix777
there are small holes in this, you have to push with your fingers,
Can I try to expand with something?
Quote: Felix777
minced meat (mixture of pig with beef 60/40) that does not fit into the feed tube is a shock ...
Above, someone wrote that vegetable oils must be added.
Quote: Felix777
minced meat (mixture of pig with beef 60/40) that does not fit into the feed tube is a shock ...
The pork is fatter.





Quote: Felix777
Now I don't know what to do with dumplings. It's sad to sculpt a big family by hand, and it's boring.
Why don't you want the iron dumpling machine discussed here? After all, many are very happy with her that you cannot say about a robot with which not everyone could make friends.
Dynamite
Quote: Felix777
(pig-beef mixture 60/40) that does not fit into the feed tube is a shock ...
We have more beef in the minced meat, but it is squeezed out calmly. We even tried to add not fatty pork - the neck, all the same there were no problems. Maybe you don't add water to the minced meat? Liquid - milk, cream or water in the minced meat is needed.
Felix777
Quote: Dynamite
Maybe you don't add water to the minced meat?
First, they twisted the usual meat (shoulder blade), passed the norms, then they took the purchased minced meat, there you can see the slurry and without it there was enough. They did it with potatoes, too, it seemed tolerable, except for the ugly appearance and thick dough. made 200 pieces in total.
Then experiments began with Finnish minced meat (40/60) and flour then everything became a stake .. Ice water was added, but the additional moisture of the minced meat began to smear the dough (plus the press just pressed the water and the minced meat did not go there) which was done like this so that the machine does not crack. As a result, after the desire to break it, dumplings were made by hand.
the second run was with potatoes, the dough was torn from uneven feeding, sometimes due to a large amount of filling.The whole batch is only for frying or steam.
The third run was with an egg in the minced meat and a steeper dough on the egg, the minced meat again refused to go into the tube, however, the efforts of a partner pressed the lid and he seemed to go, they also seemed to be watching the serving of the dough, but the volume of the product tore the dough, in short, the whole batch was almost into the furnace (frying or steam, you cannot cook)





Quote: Katerok87
Can I try to expand with something?
it will lose its presentation, but I'm not sure yet that I will keep it myself.




Quote: Katerok87
Why don't you want the iron dumpling machine discussed here?
Unfortunately, knowing about this forum for a long time, the mind was enough to read it only after the purchase .. now we must study the issue ...
Dynamite
Felix777,
Maybe it's true what kind of marriage you got? We had a complete fiasco with minced fish (we'll try it some other way). but with meat and potatoes somehow more or less everything, especially compared to your description. Where did you get the device?
Caprice
Quote: Felix777
They are strange ... and dumplings with potatoes? and 5 family members, 10-20 pieces per brother with normal filling, how fast?
I used my metal machine to make it with potatoes, fried onions and mushrooms. Nothing worked like that




Quote: Alex100

Irene, according to this algorithm I do) the device is really homemade for cutting down the dumplings themselves
pcs 200 in a couple of hours you can easily make it without straining, while watching TV) but the dough is thin with a maximum of filling and a beautiful product
And I will continue to use my metal dumpling machine.
Felix777
Quote: Dynamite
Where did you get the device?
I took it on aliexpress, he sold it alone there, on Chinese resources there are for 3000, but delivery must be agreed. Marriage is unlikely, because there is a construction of 2 inflows 3 booms ...
most likely, the consistency of the filling and dough is really very critical. Which I cannot catch.
Caprice
Quote: Alex100
device true homemade for cutting down the dumplings themselves
Alex100, can you show a photo of the device?
Katerok87
Tell me, please, if anyone knows where you can order an extra glass for an iron typewriter ?!
Caprice
Quote: Katerok87

Tell me, please, if anyone knows where you can order an extra glass for an iron typewriter ?!
I would also order.
Katerok87
I think you can find it on taobao, but how can you find it there?
I found a dumpling machine at Kupinatao. com (it is convenient, understandable to search on this site, but to buy through a cheaper intermediary using the link where it is sold on taobao below under the photo there is such an inscription Original product card in Chinese), looked in the stores of several sellers of these machines, they do not have a separate cup. How is he even called in translation into Russian!
Caprice
I bought my car on Aliexpress. Since then, they have almost disappeared from sale there. And those sellers who still have cars have greatly inflated prices. I tried to order from one seller, but the order was not sent, the seller wrote that he no longer had it, and the money was returned to me.
Lisichkalal
I don’t remember if Rrista was really worth 229, but now it is 149.
Maybe write to them about the glass?

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Caprice
On Aliexpress, the cost of the car has not only increased, but increased SEVERAL TIMES! At least 3-4 times.




Quote: Lisichkalal

I don’t remember if Rrista was really worth 229, but now it is 149.
Maybe write to them about the glass?

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Worth writing, of course. It's a pity they don't send them to Israel.
Lisichkalal
Their page says:
We deliver all over Germany for 9.90 € and worldwide for only 59 €.
sazalexter
Quote: Katerok87
Tell me, please, if anyone knows where you can order an extra glass for an iron typewriter ?!
Above in the topic, a couple of years ago, I gave a link to the glass, if it is of course preserved
Caprice
Quote: sazalexter

Above in the topic, a couple of years ago, I gave a link to the glass, if it is of course preserved
A lot has changed in a couple of years.




Quote: Lisichkalal

Their page says:
We deliver all over Germany for 9.90 € and worldwide for only 59 €.
I didn't see it.
sazalexter
Found a container from a picture left on the forum on May 12, 2011 true link is different

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Caprice
Quote: sazalexter

Found a container from a picture left on the forum on May 12, 2011 true link is different

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There delivery only within Russia.
Katerok87

Quote: Caprice
And those sellers who still have cars have greatly inflated prices.
On taobao it costs 340 yuan at the current rate of 3400 rubles.
Plus for delivery up to 3000 rubles, but if you buy something else on taobao, then it will be more profitable.





Quote: Caprice
There delivery only within Russia.
Today I called to asked about delivery to Israel, they send 1000 rubles to 1 kg for delivery. The more goods you buy, the more profitable the delivery. Try to write to them.
Caprice
Katerok87, unfortunately, the price in rubles does not tell me anything, I do not know the ruble / dollar exchange rate
About the yuan, I'll just keep silent. Until now, my settlements with the Chinese were in dollars. Aliexpress shows the price even in shekels.
Katerok87
Quote: Caprice
Katerok87, unfortunately, the price in rubles does not tell me anything, I do not know the ruble / dollar exchange rate
The machine will cost about 50-60 dollars without the services of an intermediary and delivery costs.
Yes, I agree that it is certainly easier and more convenient to buy on aliexpress, but it is cheaper on taobao for Chinese currency through an intermediary when you buy so many goods to pay off the delivery, this is the first reason why it is more interesting there, and the second is that you can buy something that is not on Ali.
And now the prices for Ali are not very different from our Russian ones.
Caprice
Quote: Katerok87
The machine will cost about 50-60 dollars without the services of an intermediary and delivery costs.
Probably, if you add the services of an intermediary and delivery, as well as tax and customs duty, then it will not be so cheap at all. Especially when you consider that I don't need the machine itself. I have it. Here is a spare glass with a lever lid, I would buy.
Katerok87
Quote: Caprice
Here is a spare glass with a lever lid, I would buy.
Caprice, lrene, I would also like to buy from the link that the above gave out of stock cups. In Russia, not so long ago, they began to sell German iron cars the same as Chinese ones in this online store
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I called there and said that you can order cups and sell them separately, since it is convenient to have two such cups for one machine? The manager replied that he would pass this idea on to the management and that in September the cups would come to them for warranty service of the machines and it would be possible to buy cups, but only they seem to be without a lever, I will clarify again.
Caprice
Quote: Katerok87
it will be possible to buy glasses, but only they seem to be without a lever, I will clarify again.
I do not exclude that they will sell only for those who bought cars from them. In addition, I would like it with a lever. The main problem there is in the lever. More precisely, in the spring on the lever.
Rosie
Katerok87, I bought a dumplings from them. They are not German, but Chinese, hieroglyphs on the box. Although everywhere they write Risto: on the website and in the invoice. In parallel with me, a forum member from Russia ordered, one to one.
Katerok87
Quote: Rosie
Katerok87, I bought a dumplings from them. They are not German, but Chinese, hieroglyphs on the box. Although everywhere they write Risto: on the website and in the invoice.
Yeah ! Is the spring high quality?
Quote: Caprice
The main problem there is in the lever. More precisely, in the spring on the lever.
Caprice, Irene, I think since they could order the cups separately, maybe they can with the lever.
Rosie
Katerok87, I used the dumplings only a couple of times, so there were no problems with the spring. Somehow I did not make friends with her, although I dreamed of her for a long time. It seemed that a rather long procedure was cooking dumplings on it, especially rolling out the dough. Then I bought an iron dumpling maker for 19 dumplings on Ali. Sometimes there is a thought about selling it, and sometimes - a desire to experience it again. Vacation is coming soon, maybe I'll give her one more chance ...
Katerok87
On that site marcato. com. ru 3 types of dumplings with different shaft widths
RISTO

1)Risto Pelmeniza pelmeni maschine home manual dumpling machine mechanical for home metal

In stock
12 990 rub
Description
Specifications
Basic Attributes
Manufacturer RISTO
Type Dumpling maker
Drive Manual
Material Stainless steel
Number of shafts 2 pairs
Shaft width 150
Seam width 150
Minimum formation thickness 0.2
Maximum seam thickness 5

Country of origin Germany
dimensions
Weight 5000
2)
Wholesale-retail Risto Pelmeniza Pelmeni Maschine home machine for making dumplings at home

In stock
12 990 rub
Description
Specifications
Basic Attributes
Manufacturer RISTO
Type Dumplings
Drive Manual
Material Stainless steel
Number of shafts 2 pairs
Shaft width 100
Seam width 100
Minimum formation thickness 0.1
Maximum seam thickness 6
Performance 200
Country of origin Germany
dimensions
Width 385
Depth 270
Height 235
Weight 5000
3)RISTO

Akita JP Risto Pelmeniza Pelmeni Maschine Manual Dumpling Machine Home Household Mechanical For Home

In stock
12 990 rub
Description
Specifications
Basic Attributes
Manufacturer RISTO
Type Dumplings
Drive Manual
Material Stainless steel
Number of shafts 2 pairs
Shaft width 100
Seam width 100
Minimum formation thickness 0.1
Maximum seam thickness 6
Performance 20

dimensions
Width 385
Depth 270
Height 235
Weight 500




Rosie,Caprice, Irene,
under what characteristics do your cars fit from the above?




Rosie, you seem to have bought your car at a discount for 6 thousand? Maybe that's why the Chinese (they are both Chinese and German production in Vietnam) came to you with hieroglyphs ...
Here is a photo of Risto's live boxes

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Or type in a search engine
Buy a dumpling maker Risto and in the pictures there will be a photo of the box where it is written in German Risto, that is, they exist
Caprice
Quote: Katerok87
Caprice, Irene, I think since they could order the cups separately, maybe they can with the lever.
It would be really nice. It's a pity, they are unlikely to send them to Israel.




Quote: Katerok87
Caprice, Irene,
under what characteristics do your cars fit from the above?
Wow! I thought they were all the same standard. I bought mine for a long time on Ali. Never bothered to measure it. By the way, I haven't made dumplings for a long time. One friend opened his own store. He buys hand-made dumplings in bulk. Real hand sculpting. I buy from him when I want homemade dumplings with real meat inside
Rosie
Katerok87, I probably have the third, because my memory immediately responded to the word "Akita". Tomorrow I will look in the mail for messages on the dumplings and the invoice to see which one they sent me.
Marina (Marina's creature) has a dumpling maker Risto, outwardly analogous to the Chinese one. But she has such handsome dumplings, they are chubby and do not blow off when cooking. Perhaps this is due to the fact that the width of the shaft of her machine is 15 cm and, accordingly, the dumplings are larger and more magnificent than on the Chinese 10 cm rollers. Because of her video, I ordered my dumplings. You need to find your car and measure the width of the shaft.
Despite all the charms of the German Rista, I would not buy her for this amount. Better to buy another Kuzinka.
I looked through Marcato's website again. Producer of both German and Taiwanese dumplings - Akita JP. And there, and there there are cars with a shaft width of 15 and 10 cm. And what conclusions can be drawn after that?
Katerok 87, if you have the opportunity, buy a German one. Let's compare their work.
Katerok87
Quote: Caprice
It is a pity, they are unlikely to send them to Israel.
Caprice, lrene, if God willing they will sell these cups with a lever, I will send you

Caprice
Katerok87, thank you, Katyusha (not mistaken with the name?), for your desire to help
Katerok87
Quote: Fifanya
Chinese also has
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
Distance 12.5cm outside. Additional attachments no more than 12 cm should be
Here Fifania measured its Chinese




Quote: Rosie
Marina (Marina's creature) has a dumpling maker Rista, outwardly analogous to the Chinese one. But she has such handsome dumplings, they are chubby and do not blow off when cooking. Perhaps this is due to the fact that the width of the shaft of her machine is 15 cm and, accordingly, the dumplings are larger and more magnificent than on the Chinese 10 cm rollers.
Rosie, this is the analysis !!! Thank you!!!
I doubted which one to buy German or Chinese.




Quote: Rosie
Katerok 87, if you have the opportunity, buy a German one. Let's compare their work.
Taobao now doesn't have these cars, so you probably still have to buy a German one.
Quote: Rosie
I looked through Marcato's website again. Producer of both German and Taiwanese dumplings - Akita JP. And there, and there there are cars with a shaft width of 15 and 10 cm. And what conclusions can be drawn after that?
I asked the manager whose dumplings were he replied that they were buying them in Germany, well, I understood that in Germany only one website sells these machines, which means marcato. com. ru buys from them.
And now I have read a couple of pages again and now some write that there is not enough minced meat in the dumplings, others need to be added, that a lot needs to be reduced, probably everyone has different shaft widths, but no one knows about this.




Quote: Caprice
Katerok87, thank you, Katyusha (not mistaken with the name?), For your desire to help
For the glory of God!
Caprice, Irene, no, you weren't wrong




By the way, they also have nozzles for this machine in their project
Caprice
Quote: Katerok87
By the way, they also have nozzles for this machine in their project
For me, the noodle cutter is not relevant. I don't make noodles especially, although there are all sorts of gadgets for this.
Rosie
Katerok87By the way, please check with the store manager you are in contact with about the dimensions of the German car (height, width, depth). On the site, it is her that these dimensions are not indicated.
All the same, these cars are slightly different. Today I watched Marina's video a couple of times, it seemed to me that her car is a little higher. And they differ in color, ours are mostly yellow, Marina's is white. Although on the Marcato website they are all white and the prices are the same.
Caprice
Quote: Rosie
And they differ in color, ours are mostly yellow, Marina's is white. Although on the Marcato website they are all white and the prices are the same.
They are neither yellow nor white. It's in the middle. Offwaite, or bone-colored, creamy
Katerok87
Quote: Rosie
Katerok87, by the way, please check with the store manager you are in touch with about the dimensions of the German car (height, width, depth). On the site, it is her that these dimensions are not indicated.
Still, these cars are slightly different.
Ok) after the weekend.

Rosie, at first I thought that the Chinese had forged a German car, changing not only the color, but also the size, but then I remembered that you wrote above that the Germans have cars with a shaft width of 150 and 100. So the Chinese is different from the German
1) color
2) the quality of the spring and
3) perhaps the size of 150 is German, and 100 is Chinese, which they recently began to bring to Germany and to us?
Here's an interesting machine 100 has always been in Germany?




Rosie, and what is the width of the shaft of your machine?
Caprice
Quote: Katerok87
Rosie, at first I thought the Chinese had forged a German car
For some reason I think that the "German" cars are made at a Chinese factory by order of a German seller.
Katerok87
Quote: Caprice
For some reason I think that the "German" cars are made at a Chinese factory by order of a German seller.

Caprice, Irene, I also have such thoughts. I wonder if there is a Chinese machine with a shaft width of 150? What's your width?

Caprice
Quote: Katerok87

Caprice, Irene, I also have such thoughts. I wonder if there is a Chinese machine with a shaft width of 150? What's your width?
To be honest, it's lazy for me to get it and measure it. I think the most common one, 10 cm. When I bought it, there was no question of the width of the roll at all.
Caprice
I found the necessary parts here, I can't understand if they deliver to Israel

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I understand that delivery is only in Russia
Katerok87
Caprice, I will try to clarify again. Last time I asked if they deliver to Israel. They replied that yes, the delivery price is about 1 thousand by Russian Post, if, for example, I send you the same delivery amount. Try to write to them. If something does not work out, I can help you. Write then.





Quote: Rosie
Katerok87, by the way, please check with the store manager with whom you are in touch with the dimensions of the German car (height, width, depth). On the site, it is her that these sizes are not indicated
Rosie, I texted him, but he didn't answer.
Caprice
Katerok87, I understand that this is a Chinese store that sends to Russia. The delivery section contains only Russia and prices based on delivery within Russia.
Katerok87
Caprice, Irene, I asked a question about the delivery, they said they were sending it, but unfortunately they only sell a glass without a lever. They could not find another option, but gave a link where you can look more below under the glass of answers the link to which you gave above.




We can wait on the marcato website. com. ru these cups will appear. They said that in September they should bring
Caprice
Katerok87, Thank you. A glass, of course, is a necessary thing. But, with a lever it is more necessary.
Of course it is sad.
Katerok87
Caprice, the site of the marcato must be brought with a lever.

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