fronya40
I used Newweiss. Yes, you are right, I just cleaned Amrita with silver toothpaste at one time, completely without taste, I really liked it, but it was replaced by another and that's it. Thank you, I will look for that. And no one tried the salary from Tiap DE?
fronya40
Thanks for the hint, I found a bunch in the internet !!!
DJ
Recently I have been brushing my teeth on recess, then with paste, then with clay. After clay, the teeth feel cleaner and there is no chemistry!
fronya40
Oh, thanks!! huge !!!! Here I am a stranger, I take the powder without this sulfate, but I did not even look into the paste.
Lozja
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Oh, thanks!! huge !!!! Here I am a stranger, I take the powder without this sulfate, but I did not even look into the paste.

Just imagine, people avoid this chemistry in powders, so as not to wear it on their bodies later, but here it gets into the oral cavity, or even further.
Going even further, read all the packages - detergents, shampoos, soaps - their composition. Once I decided to take the Quack Quack baby shampoo, I thought, this is where there will be less chemistry. Yeah, I was dreaming. If SLS is in the first place in the list of ingredients, then it is in the product the most. The composition is usually indicated in descending order - a larger percentage at the beginning.
fronya40
I bought pasta today
Everything for cleaning the oral cavity (irrigators, brushes, pastes and dental centers)
dopleta
This is what I saw on the site of the Young Mothers Club (KMM):

"DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE QUADRATICS MEAN ON THE BACK SIDE OF TUBES FROM CREAMS, TOOTHPASTS, SHAMPOOS, etc.?
Have you ever noticed that on each tube, for example, with a cream, there is always a square on the back side. They are: black, dark brown, dark blue, dark burgundy (generally dark colors); they are also RED and GREEN. So what do they mean?

Dark squares mean that the product you are using consists entirely of CHEMICALS! Red squares mean that the product is ABOUT 70% CHEMICAL and 30% NATURAL. Green squares mean that the product you used is WITHOUT chemicals !!! Consists only of NATURAL SUBSTANCES! "

🔗

Creamy
Thanks, dopleta, for the enlightenment, I knew nothing about this marking method.
Lozja
Interesting. I went and looked at my "natural" toothpaste - a dark blue square.
k.alena
I have on of all tubes (not only paste, but also creams, etc.) strips and squares of the same color as the font of the inscriptions on the tubes
As an allergic to a great variety of herbs, I don't see anything wrong with the presence of chemistry. And I use cosmetics without natural ingredients. The slightest admixtures of chamomile, calendula, etc. ... cause severe allergies. So, I think that the fear of chemistry is too exaggerated.
Lozja
Having rummaged in the internet:

Alarmists))) These are photo tags for the machine, so that it cuts off and forms a tube :)

Nothing special. Labels for automatic tube sealing. Does a printing worker check colors? Verifies. So they are guided by the colored squares and the drawing itself - or did you not pay attention to the fact that the number of colors and gradients exactly repeat those in the drawing?
dopleta
It’s good if it’s not. I don't know the author, the article seemed interesting, I'm glad that the truth, as required, triumphs!
fronya40
I just wanted to answer. which is not true, but you have already written everything. I also have a blue square on one, and a black one on the other. Today I found an Ecoplanet store (Dnepropetrovsk) - there are SO MUCH things there!
fomca
Oh, I just saw this Temko on the forum and ... smiled. I worked in the shop for the production of bags, and this is in no way similar ...So, at the beginning, flexographic printing is applied to the film, and later this same package or tube is made on a sealing machine. The width of the bag or tube is adjusted using a photocell in accordance with this mark applied to the packaging material., I.e. this mark exists for the correct operation of the packaging machine; it is used for sealing. And its color can be any of that color scheme, layout, which is present in print!
dopleta
But for sure, and I remembered that such marks are present on almost all packages! And who has nothing to do - invent such things?
fronya40
and today I come to work, and my employee says, and you know that the tags ... and you understand further. I say, just yesterday I read on the forum ... rumors are spreading fast.
fronya40
Shitting, and you were right - there is no aftertaste after this paste ... and now I brush my teeth as it should be - I don't feel sick. By the way, I bought another one - Agafya, the smell is disgusting, but nothing, I tolerate, does not feel sick from her - and cleans her teeth well.
Lozja
Quote: fronya40

Shitting, and you were right - there is no aftertaste after this paste ... and now I brush my teeth as it should be - I don't feel sick. By the way, I bought another one - Agafya, the smell is disgusting, but nothing, I tolerate, does not feel sick from her - and cleans her teeth well.

Proven empirically, not only by me and more than once.
Oca
I came to you for a choice of a miracle brush. The dentist recently told about the existence of such a miracle. They put braces on me, it's a little expensive to clean them with brushes, 1 brush from Oralbi costs no less than 20 rubles, and it gets worn out on pieces of iron for a few cleanings. In addition to this, the gaps between the teeth have now narrowed, the brush does not crawl or injure the gums. In the last few visits, they put on different elastic bands-traction, they become slimy and cannot be cleaned at all, everything gets stuck under them (((Mechanical cleaning does not save, there are places where you can't crawl with a toothpick or thread. Who has experience in wearing braces, tell us, did the irrigator handle them?
PS I still have a lot of incipient problems found, stones and "kissing caries" - this is when you cannot clean between your teeth with a thread, and there any byaka begins to multiply. They drilled a hole where I can clean it for a long time and thoroughly, but here and there I can’t get it with braces.
kolenko
Oh,Wasp, I would gladly advise you to purchase the WaterPik irrigator (she recently became its owner). The set of accessories includes a bunch of accessories for the care of braces. Cleans teeth gaps
True, you can buy a station if there is no separate electric brush.
So you have to reread 12 pages.
dopleta
Wasp, when my daughter had braces, she constantly used my irrigator. Then I bought myself too. Of course, this is convenient - the water jet penetrates where the brush cannot be reached!
Oca
I just read it, wrote it down. I will not find the Brown irrigator on the manufacturer's website (on neither brown. Com, nor on screaming-b. Ru). According to the description, I still like Waterpik WP-100, I google the rest of the characteristics and the number of nozzles. On batteries, as I understand it, garbage. And holding that reservoir in your hand will somehow be inconvenient (IMHO). I am looking for something more powerful and powered by 220V, so as not to run to recharge every 15 minutes. I would buy a device for two.
marinastom
As a dentist - I recommend! For the price, however, a very decent range. For braces it is good with ultrasound, almost like a scaler in the office.
dopleta
Quote: Oca

I just read it, wrote it down. I will not find the Brown irrigator on the manufacturer's website (on neither brown. Com, nor on screaming-b. Ru). According to the description, I still like Waterpik WP-100, I google the rest of the characteristics and the number of nozzles. On batteries, as I understand it, garbage. And holding that reservoir in your hand will somehow be inconvenient (IMHO). I am looking for something more powerful and powered by 220V, so as not to run to recharge every 15 minutes. I would buy a device for two.
At Brown's, the irrigator enters the dental center - it is just from the network, and for the whole family - there are several nozzles with multi-colored marks so as not to be confused.
kolenko
Quote: Oca

it is powered from 220V so as not to run to recharge every 15 minutes.I would buy a device for two.

I would also advise from 220V (this is if there is an outlet nearby) and the volume of the reservoir there is decent (you can "dig deeper" in your teeth) and enough for a family. There are also separate nozzles for four.
Cvetaal
Quote: kolenko

Oh,Wasp, I would gladly recommend purchasing the WaterPik irrigator

I join, I have had this irrigator for 3 years already
Oca
Sorry, I am now looking at the photo from the first page of the forum and at the Oral-B Professional Care 8900 DLX OxyJet center - I see two regular toothbrushes So what is it really? The first thing is a brush, the second is an irrigator (i.e. with a water supply)? Or are they two absolutely identical devices - like "for him" and "for her"? I don't understand, I have never seen it live. Enlighten teapot
dopleta
Quote: Oca

Sorry, I am now looking at the photo from the first page of the forum and at the Oral-B Professional Care 8900 DLX OxyJet center - I see two regular toothbrushes So what is it really? The first thing is a brush, the second is an irrigator (i.e. with a water supply)? Or are they two absolutely identical devices - like "for him" and "for her"? I don't understand, I have never seen it live.
This is my center - on the left is the brush on which the attachments are changed, on the right is the irrigator.
Oca
Since everything is so amicable for the 100th model of WaterPik, then I take Waterpik WP-100 E2 Ultra The only thing, I would like to clarify a few questions before ordering:
1) the length of the power cord,
2) the length of the "water" hose,
3) the presence of a turbo mode (like Brown),
4) what organs of the equation are there besides the switch for 10 positions,
5) how many minutes (approximately) one tank filling is enough,
6) Made in the USA or in China, controlled by a USA company?
I would be grateful for the explanations
Cvetaal
Oca, this is for you :
1) the length of the power cord is 136.5 cm including the plug
2) the length of the "water" hose - 90 cm
3) the presence of a turbo mode (like Brown) - no
4) ... except for the 10-position switch - the "pause" button
5) depends on the position, on the 10-ke the fastest flow, detected now - 1 minute 26 seconds
6) China, and whether it is under US control or not, I don’t know, it threw away the box long ago. The unit has been operating for more than 3 years, no complaints, no breakdowns
Oca
Quote: Cvetaal

6) China
Cvetaal, grand merci And another little question, since the prices on our sites for this thing, I will take from the Chinese / Americans. Ibei has good offers (up to $ 100), but what about tao-bao (it seems even cheaper, but I don't have registration there)? Or not to mess with, because my Chinese is even worse than English
Oh, and another question - what's the plug? Euro or flat contacts? I came across 110V.
Cvetaal
I am not an advisor in this matter, I bought in Moscow in an online store
Cvetaal
Oca, Maria, I read your first posts and I am in a hurry to warn you, in this irrigator there are only two identical nozzles, and the rest, one at a time, I ordered additionally for the family. So, you still need to figure out how to store additional attachments, as well as purchase a toothbrush, it is not in the device
Oca
Quote: Cvetaal

I am in a hurry to warn you, in this irrigator there are only two identical nozzles, and the rest, one at a time, I ordered additionally for the family.
Ahh, now I understand, or looked. There are 2 types of them: with 6 and 12 nozzles, which was called "WaterPik WP-100 & Traveler WP-305" 🔗 I have 4 special brushes, but they are not enough to use them - for some reason they do not produce models with medium or hard bristles, and the soft one that is, absolutely does not clean
kolenko
Quote: Oca


Oh, and another question - what's the plug? Euro or flat contacts? I came across 110V.
Wasp!Here is the case. I have just sent WaterPick from America. Made in China.
Add. Accessories - 6 pcs. in a box.
And most importantly, a plug with flat contacts, and one expands at the end (this is done for them to maintain polarity). If you use a transformer, they have such a socket for such a plug.
Oca
Yesterday I received the package! (something died in the forest and the Russian Post delivered the parcel from the USA in less than a month) Waterpeaks 100 and 305 in one box. The plug is really non-standard ... And now the main question: who has what is written on the adapters? Does it mean how many Hertz - 50 or 60? Either you need to look for a serious converter 220V / 50Hz to 120V / 60Hz, or it is enough to simply lower it from 220V to 120V without changing the frequency of the alternating voltage. Look at your adapters, please.
kolenko
Wasp!Masha! I posted a photo of my adapter herehttps://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=112612.0
The polarity of the socket does not play in our grand pianos, it's only in the Americas that the network is polar. It would be possible to use a simple lowering adapter, but we have a "curly" plug. If there is someone handy in the house, then you can simply grind off those squiggles on the pin, so as not to bother looking for a "filderable" adapter.
Now I checked, this plug does not fit into a simple adapter

And yes, congratulations on a useful purchase, as they say - feel the difference !!!
Oca
kolenko, ie Lenochka Thank you! I don’t go into the topic of robotic vacuum cleaners, it’s still a very expensive toy. I was scared that the overseas technology makes a difference where the phase should be fed, and where it is zero. Now there is no time to wind the most, and it is not a problem to file a fork

PS I once bought a screwdriver-indicator for Castorama, so that I could look for the wiring in the wall when I need to drill a hole. It turned out that there was a very strong electromagnetic field near the computer. We turned the UPS plug into an outlet on the wall - the indicator stopped beeping and winking. Like this...
kolenko
Masha! Look, I have such plug sockets.

🔗 🔗

And what to order? Do you have any radio market in your city, a place where electronics engineers, radio amateurs are found? Our simple step-down adapter in the radio market costs about $ 3.5-4.
I also wanted to notice what on the "priest" of the irrigator read it? about using for more than 5 minutes ...
My "transformer" heats up if I use the irrigator for more than 3 cycles in a row (I like to "dig deeper")
It has 34W power, and the mavo adapter has up to 50W.

And come into robotic vacuum cleaners, this is another useful trick, which you will never regret
My adapter works for both rumba and waterpeak.
Oca
Quote: kolenko

And what to order? Do you have any radio market in your city, a place where electronics engineers, radio amateurs are found? We have a simple step-down adapter on the radio market costs about $ 3.5-4
There is a market, it works on weekends, but a few years ago he moved to the neighboring republic of Adygea. Now transport has risen in price, and from my current place of residence to sunny Adygea I will get 4-5 $ round-trip + in the rain 2 km with feet to knead dirt from the stop (the weather is not flying). What will I buy there? the same adapter that they order in boxes from the Chinese. In stores, everything is more expensive.

I am thinking of making a robot myself (education allows), only I need to take a closer look at how its brushes are located.
Oca
I ordered adapters, meanwhile I asked my friends for a similar thing. I found a power supply unit, just 50W, this morning I went to turn on the buzzer - while I was checking the operability, all the dirt from the drain in the sink was cleaned. A strong jet from the 305th to the 100th, it hurts to feel with a finger. Now they will cool down and try to apply it by its direct meaning. Thanks to everyone who helped decide on the need for this purchase.
dopleta
Does anyone use such a thing here? Toothbrush sterilizer -

Everything for cleaning the oral cavity (irrigators, brushes, pastes and dental centers)

"The device carries out double sterilization: directly using UV rays and ozone generated during the operation of the built-in UV lamp, destroying up to 99% of pathogenic bacteria, fungi, viruses and microbes. The device is controlled by a microcontroller. The duration of the automatic sterilization cycle is 5 minutes. The sterilizer is powered by 2 x 1.5V AA size batteries. " Believe it? Then maybe it makes sense for a dental center to buy this? And then at such a cost of nozzles, it quickly becomes gold in cost.
marinastom
It seems to me that "the game is not worth the candle." The brush, in principle, cannot serve for a long time, since the bristles wear out. As for sterilization, the question is open, since sterilization, and not disinfection, is possible only by autoclaving. We work with such apparatus in the office - Everything for cleaning the oral cavity (irrigators, brushes, pastes and dental centers) - "Apparatus for disinfection with hard ultraviolet radiation of dental handpieces, scalers and other hand tools of frequent use. Disinfects 99.9% of pathogenic bacteria using UV radiation.Radiation wavelength: 253 nm. Disinfection time: 15 sec. "But we still sterilize in an autoclave.
And the meaning of "bothering" at home with this. Or do crowds of people come to you and use your brushes? It is enough if it is CLEAN AND DRY. And there are still a lot of devices you can "sell" to us. I do not pretend to be true.
dopleta
Thank you, Marina, to be honest, I assumed so. But I so much wanted to hope that it was worth it, and you could save money. Will not work .
marinastom
Quote: dopleta

Thank you, Marina, to be honest, I assumed so. But I so much wanted to hope that it was worth it, and you could save money. Will not work .
Uh-uh, Mother, since you've started an expensive pipelatza, pay for the comfort!
Sens

an ultrasonic bath can be used for cleaning and disinfection.
but only distilled water can be poured into it.
you can fill in des. means.

as for the brushes themselves, the quality of the material is such that they can serve for a long time.

natural bristles have strict requirements for the time of operation, but because of the bacterial flora, which cannot be removed from it.

it seems to me that modern artificial bristles are very corrosion resistant material. therefore it is possible to effectively disinfect it for a long time.
marinastom
Whatever the bristles are, these are, in fact, separate small elements, and they, one way or another, wear out. Ultrasonic washing is not a panacea either, I doubt that it is capable of "knocking out" everything that gets stuck between the bristles. That is why brushes are consumable.
Anna1957
Quote: marinastom

Uh-uh, Mother, since you've started an expensive pipelatza, pay for the comfort!

What would you recommend? I want to replace the old brush + the irrigator included. I went to Amazon, and there are so many of them!
Sens
Quote: marinastom

Whatever the bristles are, these are, in fact, separate small elements, and they, one way or another, wear out.
everything will wear out, nothing is eternal.
but there is a very big difference between natural and artificial bristles! the physical, mechanical and chemical properties of these materials are very different.
artificial bristles are more durable and more hygienic.
Ultrasonic washing is not a panacea either, I doubt that it is capable of "knocking out" everything that gets stuck between the bristles.
ultrasound destroys even molecules! the more it will cleanse the microflora, the cat. is essentially organic material.
you may not have encountered this, but the restoration of met. ceramic denture is possible after processing in the knot. bath, because ultrasound removes all organics, which can be clearly seen when firing microns. prosthesis.

Lucha
Quote: Anna1957

What would you recommend? I want to replace the old brush + the irrigator included. I went to Amazon, and there are so many of them!
Anna 1957, and Brown, prof. center looked? I have the same as dopleta, very happy. There, the irrigator has a special bubble technology, there is also a regular jet of water under pressure. It flushes everything out of pockets very well, and if crowns or implants, it is generally irreplaceable.

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