Melanyushka
Daffi, manual is also needed. I also have two mixers - a Bosch combine with a planetary movement and a manual Bosch too, sometimes you need to whip up a ready-made cream or whip a small amount on a fast basis, here a hand mixer helps a lot, or to do a "wet meringue" in a bathhouse - there is no way to adapt a stationary one, and with a manual in a bowl on a hot bath that's it.
Daffi
Quote: Melanyushka

Daffi, manual is also needed. I also have two mixers - a Bosch combine with a planetary movement and a manual Bosch too, sometimes you need to whip up a ready-made cream or whip a small amount on a fast basis, here a hand mixer helps a lot, or to do a "wet meringue" in a bathhouse - there is no way to adapt a stationary one, and with a manual in a bowl on a hot bath that's it.
What is the capacity of your Bosch hand mixer?
Melanyushka
Mixer Bosch 3550 450 W. I chose between 4020 and 3550, in the store I turned both in my hands, asked to turn it on, held the already working ones in my hands, and somehow 3550 seemed to me that it was better in my hand, so it was more convenient for me to work with him, and I took it. Well, the power is rather big and works for a long time without heating, for example, when I make a wet meringue.
Deep
Speaking of power. I have two hand mixers - Brown and Siemens. Cheap Siemens is announced as 250 watts, and Brown (4 times more expensive) - as 500 watts. But at the same time Siemens whips much better, the "power reserve" is felt, it does not heat up, and Brown is very gentle, it slows down, as if stopping, it seems to be working on its last gasp, and once it started to smoke. I rolled it up, put it in a box. I only take it out when I need a blender. And I use Siemens every day - it's not a pity - it's cheap .. But the fact that a hand mixer is necessary - I agree. Both models are old, Siemens is 8 years old, Brown is 5 years old.
Daffi
Boshi seems to have no complaints. It's not clear about Gorenie, because I haven't found a single review or video with him. Can someone take pity on me and take pictures of how the Burner 500 or 501N works at maximum speed?
And I would also like to find a video of how Bosch 3530 450 W or a similar model with a power of 450 W (Bosch 3550, Bosch 3560 or similar) works at maximum speed.
The network has a video of a Bosch 3010 (300 W), Bosch 3520 (350 W), Philips 1453 (175 W) working. I would not say that the difference is too noticeable at maximum speed.

I looked for a Siemens mixer. All the photos indicate that it is one to one like the Bosch 30 series, only the color is different and the power is less.
Deep
Daffi, but you are not looking at power (well, power too, of course), but still the main thing for speed is revs (Rotational speed). And build on this characteristic.
Daffi
Quote: Deep

Daffi, but you are not looking at power (well, power too, of course), but still the main thing for speed is revs (Rotational speed). And build on this characteristic.
No manufacturer specifies the actual mixer speed in the technical specifications. That is the problem. I know power is not an indicator. The revolutions can be seen and heard only on video or in real work. But there are only three videos on the network that I have indicated. So I cannot compare the work of Gorenier and Bosch 3530. Alas. Namely, I am going to choose from these two models. Their power is almost the same, but the price is very different. Bosch for 130 UAH expensive
Vilapo
Quote: Daffi

No manufacturer specifies the actual mixer speed in the technical specifications. That is the problem. I know power is not an indicator. The revolutions can be seen and heard only on video or in real work. But there are only three videos on the network that I have indicated. So I cannot compare the work of Gorenier and Bosch 3530. Alas. Namely, I am going to choose from these two models.Their power is almost the same, but the price is very different. Bosch for 130 UAH expensive
Daffi, you are still in the process of choosing .. tough ..
Daffi
Quote: Rita

And when, in the end, you buy completely satisfied or what?
I am always happy with the purchased equipment, because I choose carefully The most interesting thing is that after a while I become even more satisfied, because it turns out that the equipment can do more than what I was counting on

However, this does not mean that I cannot point out the weaknesses or shortcomings of the purchased units. For some, they can be critical, but for me, they do not matter for some reason. To make it clear - I know about these shortcomings at the time of purchase. Therefore, I understand what I'm going for
Daffi
If we return to the same mixers, then it has already been found out that:

1. Combustion is heavy compared to other mixers (1.2 kg). Made in Turkey.

Disadvantages - slightly short corollas, heavy.
Advantages - cheap, powerful, whips well.

2. Bosch is made in Slovenia.

The nuance is the beating of the left corolla (very noticeable in the video).
Disadvantages - expensive, the plastic on the rims can break, there are plastic elements in the structure that can break.
Advantages - lightweight (650-850 g), low noise, whips well.
Most of the buyers are very satisfied.

Information for thought - when disassembling the BOSH 4020-4080 mixer, plastic parts were found that can quickly break. There is no protective clutch between the gearbox and the engine, an inconvenient speed switch (6 minutes 11 seconds of video, there is a list of shortcomings).
Melanyushka
Daffi, of course, the mixer may break, or ... it may not break. The plastic on the rims seems to be quite normal, but in blender-bowls almost all knives are attached to plastic, and the load there is more serious than in a mixer, and stationary blenders also work for years. And the weight plays a big role, when you have to keep the working mixer on weight for a long time, I'm talking about wet meringue - there, after all, in a steam bath for 15-20 minutes you sometimes need to beat without stopping, then the load on your hands is quite noticeable. In no case do I dissuade you from Gorenie, someone here previously spoke very well about this mixer, I just expressed my opinion, of course, it's up to you to decide. Good luck with your choice!
Nyutka
Girls, please tell me which mixer to choose from the stationary ones, so that I mix cream and dough and mayonnaise. How much power is enough for this?
vodoleika
I have experience using 2 mixers: Gorene 501N and Bosch 4020
Gorene was bought in December 2010 and Bosch in December 2011, because I left Gorene with my mother in the summer. Both are powerful, whisk well. The burner is more comfortable for me in my hand, despite the fact that it is heavier. Its disadvantages are very noisy, the first speed is very fast, so to speak, it cannot be slightly mixed. In my opinion, the difference between the speeds is very small, that is, the 1st from the 3rd is not very different.
Bosch bought it because the burning was over. I am very pleased with how quiet it works. Overall, I am satisfied with both mixers.
Daffi
Quote: vodoleika

I have experience using 2 mixers: Gorene 501N and Bosch 4020
Gorene was bought in December 2010 and Bosch in December 2011, because I left Gorene with my mother in the summer. Both are powerful, whisk well. The burner is more comfortable for me in my hand, despite the fact that it is heavier. Its disadvantages are very noisy, the first speed is very fast, so to speak, it cannot be slightly mixed. In my opinion, the difference between the speeds is very small, that is, the 1st from the 3rd is not very different.
Bosch bought it because the burning was over. I am very pleased with how quiet it works. Overall, I am satisfied with both mixers.
Thank you. Does Bosch have any drawbacks?
francevna
Quote: Nyutka

Girls, please tell me which mixer to choose from the stationary ones, so that I mix cream and dough and mayonnaise. How much power is enough for this?
Nyutka, look at this link, just copy it. I like the look very much and the attachments are comfortable. I would like to buy one.
Girls, what do you say, are there owners of such a Bork mixer?

vodoleika
Quote: Daffi

Thank you. Does Bosch have any drawbacks?
There are no drawbacks as such, it works fine, but it doesn't fit comfortably in my hand.
Daffi
Quote: vodoleika

There are no drawbacks as such, it works fine, but it doesn't fit comfortably in my hand.
Thank you. And what about the Bosch 4020 with speeds? Also the first speed is very fast and there is no difference between the first and third? Or did you only write about Burning?
indy2004
Good batch! Need some advice. There is a Bosch 4100 combine, a bread maker that can knead and a simple 200 watt mixer. I wanted a Bosch 3560. Does it make sense? More precisely, are there tasks that the existing units cannot cope with? And the second question - which is better to take the new Bosch MFQ 3560 for 1400 rubles or the new Bosch MFQ 3580 for 1100 rubles. Thanks for your feedback.
Vilapo
Quote: indy2004

Good batch! Need some advice. There is a Bosch 4100 combine, a bread maker that can knead and a simple 200 watt mixer. I wanted a Bosch 3560. Does it make sense? More precisely, are there tasks that the existing units cannot cope with? Thanks for your feedback.
Igor, you can do it, but it's easier to get a mixer or a combine. The mixer is very good, I have the same model only with a different configuration.
vodoleika
Quote: Daffi

Thank you. And what about the Bosch 4020 with speeds? Also the first speed is very fast and there is no difference between the first and third? Or did you only write about Burning?
it's just about burning. At Bosch, the speeds differ well - at the first one you can mix. And I can work with him in the evening when the child is sleeping. Amazingly quiet even at top speed
Daffi
Quote: vodoleika

it's just about burning. At Bosch, the speeds differ well - at the first one you can mix. And I can work with him in the evening when the child is sleeping. Amazingly quiet even at top speed
I realized that it means that you won't be able to save money, but I wanted so much. It is necessary to buy Bosch.
Burning is cheaper, but why do I need a mixer in which, at first speed, all the flour will be scattered around the kitchen?
vodoleika
Quote: Daffi

I realized that it means that you won't be able to save money, but I wanted so much. It is necessary to buy Bosch.
Burning is cheaper, but why do I need a mixer in which, at first speed, all the flour will be scattered around the kitchen?

If possible, compare them in the store - hold, turn on. Both models are decent. Happy shopping
Daffi
I was in the store today. Well what can I say ... One thing is nice: the Electrolux 4200 mixer is a mega-thing. Beast machine. Yes, it is heavy and noisy. But in the hand lies like a glove. The corollas rotate so that the Bosch 3540 cannot keep up with it in any way. Moreover, the power of Electrolux is only 300 watts.

Bosch 450 watts. The impressions are ambiguous. Lightweight and low noise. But it is uncomfortable in the hand and the corollas rotate slowly.
Burning 500N is a complete disappointment. It can be seen that the corollas rotate with misalignment. Is this so necessary? In general, the impression is that it was made in Chinese China, although it was made in Turkey.

Take Electrolux?
vodoleika
Quote: Daffi


Take Electrolux?

If you like it, take it of course And what is its price in comparison with Bosch?
Have you seen PHILIPS HR 1560 like this? I liked it too -350 W
Daffi
Quote: vodoleika

If you like it, take it of course And what is its price in comparison with Bosch?
Have you seen PHILIPS HR 1560 like this? I liked it too -350 W
I already set my sights on Electrolux, it is 100 UAH cheaper than Bosch 3530, but I had to replay everything again. We managed to find instructions for him, which says that the mixer can be used continuously for no longer than 2 minutes And then you need to give him a rest for 20 minutes We don't need this
Phillips somehow did not look to me, and 82 decibels is too much. There is also a Panasonic 200 W mixer and a Kenwood 200 W mixer. Well, or a fallback - Bosch 3010. There is nothing else to choose from, alas.
Keti
Quote: Daffi
There is nothing more to choose from, alas.

Daffi, have you seen our DEH live? They also have a mixer, I wonder what are your impressions of it? In terms of parameters, I read it on the internet, it seems to be weak, but, on the other hand, DEKH has established itself as a high-quality technique ...
Daffi
Quote: Keti

Daffi, have you seen our DEH live? They also have a mixer, I wonder what are your impressions of it? By the parameters, reading on the internet seems to be weak, but, on the other hand, DEKH has established itself as a high-quality technique ...
Both Dexes have 120 watts. This is very small.
Melanyushka
Daffi, take Bosch - it's quite a decent choice. Many girls have it and do not get enough of it, they can work for a long time, and it is quite quiet, and the power is good, and whips very well. It may be a little more expensive, but the mixer is worth it.Look at the package, maybe not everything you need, or take it without any package at all, just a mixer. I understand your throes of choice, I myself am so, until I choose the entire Internet shovel, I will reread all the reviews, I will look at the store live, I will hold it in my hands so that I feel comfortable, I immediately feel my own thing - everything seems convenient, even I like the appearance, it means I work it will be comfortable and joyful with such a device.
Daffi
Quote: Melanyushka

Daffi, take Bosch - it's quite a decent choice. Many girls have it and do not get enough of it, they can work for a long time, and it is quite quiet, and the power is good, and whips very well. It may be a little more expensive, but the mixer is worth it. Look at the package, maybe not everything you need, or take it without any package at all, just a mixer. I understand your throes of choice, I myself am so, until I choose the entire Internet shovel, I will reread all the reviews, I will look at the store live, I will hold it in my hands so that I feel comfortable, I immediately feel my own thing - everything seems convenient, even I like the appearance, it means I work it will be comfortable and joyful with such a device.
The problem is that it is light and quiet, but I did not feel the power in it. It is inconvenient to hold it in my hands, the non-ergonomic shape of the handle interferes with me. I only need a mixer without everything, and an inexpensive one.
vodoleika
Daffi, Bosch 4020 is powerful, and whips quickly, if you compare with Burning it is a little faster. The low-power one did not want in principle - she suffered with the old nameless some 200 watts. And in terms of power higher than 350, we are all expensive.
Do you like tefal? Do online stores deliver to you?
Melanyushka
Quote: Daffi

The problem is that it is light and quiet, but I did not feel the power in it. It is inconvenient to hold it in my hands, the non-ergonomic shape of the handle interferes with me. I only need a mixer without everything, and an inexpensive one.
Yes, indeed, how many people, so many opinions, but on the contrary, I liked this mixer in the store, I have a Bosch 3550 - somehow it immediately fell into my hand and the handle seemed to me quite ergonomic, I still remember thinking what fellow developers are , as they did everything conveniently, and the new model 4020 did not seem very comfortable in the hand, although they wrote here that this particular mixer turned out to be the best for them.
Then you really need to just take your time and see m. B. in online stores.
Well, while I was typing, you were already advised to take a closer look at online stores. Good luck!
Daffi
I am already looking for a mixer in online stores In Kharkov, their sea and prices are lower than in the same Rosette. Bosch not only "did not fit in my hand". In this thread, one of the girls already wrote that Gorenie lies better in the hand. So it seemed to me too. But the Gorenie mixer itself did not inspire confidence in me. Still, the technique must be watched live, it is impossible to judge about it from the pictures.

I realized that I had to choose between Bosch and Bosch, the other options had already been rejected. Nothing, I'll buy it and get used to it. It remains to compare the 3010 and 3530 live and make the final choice.
Daffi
I found a video of how Bosch 3010 works


and Bosch 3520

I don't hear any difference at maximum speed.

If someone could make a video showing the operation of a Bosch 3530 mixer or another from the 35 ** series with a power of 450 watts, it would be wonderful. So that you can see and hear how the corollas are spinning at different speeds. You are welcome.
Vilapo
Daffi, the mixers are weak in the video. I found on YouTube how the 3550 works, I have the same one, I am very pleased with it, the most interesting is the model 4020, which costs even more than mine, and differs only in design.
Lozja
Quote: Daffi

We managed to find instructions for him, which says that the mixer can be used continuously for no longer than 2 minutes And then you need to give him a rest for 20 minutes We don't need this

Mine also wrote about this, only 5 minutes like. But it has holes all over the body, it does not even heat up at all, I kneaded the dough on Easter cakes for half an hour each time for two years - even if only henna, it didn't even become lukewarm. So, what is written is not yet the fact that it is.
Galleon-6
Quote: irza

Last year, my husband gave Moulinex Easy Max on March 8th.The mixer is stationary with a bowl, but can also be detached and operated in manual mode.
I have it overloaded, it is used almost every day.
Good power (enough for protein cream), moderate noise (before that Saturn was like a jet). I'm glad

Was Saturn with a bowl? And how is he at work, beat the whites for a long time?
Jefry
For a long time already they wanted to replace the old mixer "Ros" with something more powerful and modern. As a result, almost completely spontaneously bought "an incomprehensible little animal." But it turned out - the device is a beast! Bowl 4 liters. Metal whisks. The declared power is 300 watts. The only drawback is that the bowl does not rotate by itself and the gap between the bottom and the rims is too large. But my engineering thought is already working in this direction ... It is also written about the operating time - 5 minutes, but it is barely warm in 10 at the maximum. The biscuit is whipped twice as fast. The "wet meringue" began to show signs of readiness in a minute, the protein did not even have time to heat up ...

Mixer

Purchased at Foxtrot for 336 UAH.
Vilapo
Quote: Jefry

For a long time already they wanted to replace the old mixer "Ros" with something more powerful and modern. As a result, almost completely spontaneously bought "an incomprehensible little animal." But it turned out - the device is a beast! Bowl 4 liters. Metal whisks. The declared power is 300 watts. The only drawback is that the bowl does not rotate by itself and the gap between the bottom and the rims is too large. But my engineering thought is already working in this direction ... It is also written about the operating time - 5 minutes, but it is barely warm in 10 at the maximum. The biscuit is whipped twice as fast. The "wet meringue" began to show signs of readiness in a minute, the protein did not even have time to heat up ...
Purchased at Foxtrot for 336 UAH.
Jefry, what is the name of this animal or it has no name
Jefry
Quote: Daffi

This is the Sinbo mixer
Yeah, he is. He's First, he's Orion. The manufacturer seems to be Turkey, but everywhere it is marked - China. The design is, of course, peculiar. Fifties-seventies style, but I like it. By weight, the mixer itself is exactly like Ros - about 700 grams. The sound is noticeably quieter. In general, it is more pleasant for them to work, even at maximum speed the vibration is less. In general, he was taken on purpose for "Bird", so that it would be easier to do it yourself, without outside help.
Seftima
I will stand and listen. I also choose a mixer, mainly for whipping proteins.
Zelmer wanted the first half of the topic, then Bosch, now I don't know

Selmer Owners - Are you satisfied? Does he still beat whites well?
Or is it better Bosch?
I have a planetary in Bosch MUM 4655, but I also want a mixer with a bowl - out of greed, and suddenly it will come in handy there too
Daffi
Girls and boys, does anyone have a mixer like this?

Power 450 W, 5 speeds. According to the instructions, you can beat a maximum of 12 whites (within 9 minutes) and a cake dough of 9 eggs and 470 g of flour (within 14 minutes).
Daffi
Tired of choosing, I ordered Bosch 3530. I hope that by Thursday I will have it.
Daffi
Quote: Vilapo

I would have such restraint when choosing a technique
If the mixer turns out to be good, I will assume that I have been looking for so long for a reason.
Irina F
Girls, did not master the whole topic, maybe they already wrote about the planetary mixer BORK E800? Does anyone have such a miracle? I choose everything, I choose ... Already, I practically opted for KM Kenwood020 (there is a lot of everything you can buy later), then again doubts were taken, and this device is not cheap. In the store, the seller said that BORK is better, but I am not inclined to trust the sellers who compare the mixer (albeit planetary) and KM
In general, again I am all in doubts and thoughts
Daffi
Yes! I did it! I bought it! (less than a year has passed)

Now I am the owner of a Bosch 3530 450W mixer. Field trials began with pancake batter and whipping cream on butter. It turned out that, and that. Fast and convenient.
The plans include whipping whites and a biscuit dough from whole eggs (3 eggs, salt, 90 g sugar, 90 g flour). After that, it will be possible to make a comparison between Bosch MUM 4655 and a Bosch 3530 mixer. You can even make a video, if at least someone else is interested in it
Daffi
Girls, my mixer Bosch 3530 makes some kind of extraneous sound. It is clearly audible at 1 and 2 speeds (especially at the second), when I turn it on at 4 or 5, it merges with the hum of the engine. It seems to me that at first this sound did not exist and in general it should not be.
Tell me, is the mixer supposed to work or is it something wrong?



If the mixer is held vertically, the sound disappears.
Lozja
Quote: Daffi

Girls, my mixer Bosch 3530 makes some kind of extraneous sound. It is clearly audible at 1 and 2 speeds (especially at the second), when I turn it on at 4 or 5, it merges with the hum of the engine. It seems to me that at first this sound did not exist and in general it should not be.
Tell me, is the mixer supposed to work or is it something wrong?

If the mixer is held vertically, the sound disappears.

It seems to me that the corollas somehow dangle, and this is very noticeable at low speeds and manifests itself most of all, because it is slow. Should there be such a backlash in the corollas? In my opinion, they should sit tightly, the video shows this chattering, even at high speeds, although it then decreases. Hence the sound. I could be wrong, of course, but hardly.
Vilapo
Quote: Daffi

Girls, my mixer Bosch 3530 makes some kind of extraneous sound. It is clearly audible at 1 and 2 speeds (especially at the second), when I turn it on at 4 or 5, it merges with the hum of the engine. It seems to me that at first this sound did not exist and in general it should not be.
Tell me, is the mixer supposed to work or is it something wrong?



If the mixer is held vertically, the sound disappears.
Daffi, this sound should not be, the corollas do not beat among themselves
Daffi
You have puzzled me. It is not the whisk that makes this sound. It's something inside the mixer that makes this hole-hole-hole. Moreover, the sound disappears completely if you hold the mixer upside down or vertically. If these were corollas, the sound would not disappear.
Lozja
Quote: Daffi

You have puzzled me. It is not the whisk that makes this sound. It's something inside the mixer that makes this hole-hole-hole. Moreover, the sound disappears completely if you hold the mixer upside down or vertically. If these were corollas, the sound would not disappear.

I don’t know, I don’t know, the corollas should not shake. I got a lasting impression in the first second of watching that the corollas are rattling because there is a backlash. Perhaps, if turned upside down, they seem to lie in the nests, therefore there is no sound. My corollas are iron in the grooves, there is no dangling.

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