Kneading machines

Hello! I am choosing a kneader. I rush between the optimum bosh (without weights) and the maximum bosh. Owner girls, share your impressions: how is the bread dough kneaded? I bake several loaves of sourdough at a time. Wheat and rye.

Girls, hello! Has anyone bought kitchen machines at IM kitchenrobo? Something their prices are suspiciously low, although the delivery information states that "Payment is made upon receipt by cash / credit card. You can open the packaging, check the integrity and completeness of the goods before paying for it."

I received it from the TK company. I immediately discussed with the seller that I would open it, check the work and then pay. When I received it, the employee of the shopping center was indignant, but then he still allowed to open it, check it and then pay.

Girls, what power is enough for kneading dough and minced meat?
Watching Kitforth planetary. There are 1000, 1200 and 1500 watt models. 1200 - with a blender, 1500 - with a meat grinder. I do not need either one or the other.
Buy a 1000 watt "naked" mixer? Or is the power of other models not only for the meat grinder, but also higher when the mixer is running?
I know about peak loads, but how do I know about the workload?

Has everyone already chosen mixers?)))
And I haven't yet.
I repeat the needs: bread dough, including rye-wheat and rye. Maximum of 500-600 g flour. Pastry - also no more than 500-600 g, cakes from 1.5 kg of flour have never baked in my life, and I'm not going to.
Minced sausage - 1-2 kg. More often - up to 1.5 kg. I can for two times))
I bake muffins, biscuits - rarely, I don't make butter cream in principle.
I want not to jump. The noise level is of little concern. I will not buy a bread maker)).
Now I choose from:
Kenwood kmix 750 🔗
The case is metal, I will buy flexi. Bowl 5 l.

Bosch MUM 58B00 🔗 bowl 3.9 l. The recipe book contains egg pasta from 300 g and bread from 1 kg of flour, that is, the manufacturer intended for a complex dough. Case - plastic ((5 kg in total weighs.

And I really like Moulinex 530. 🔗 The case is also plastic. Bowl - 4.6 liters. Gorgeous whisk. And a flexi attachment included. Angela suspects she's for gentle mixing, such as a keshina souffleika. Outwardly - it seems like there is a lot of silicone. But! I read Kesha's instructions - officially flexi - also for delicate mixing! But the majority chases it in the tail and in the mane, and for meat and bread.

Cost: moulinex - 15, kenwood mix - 17.5. And they give me Bosch for 17.5.

We must already be determined)) Help, good people!



And Bosch assembly of Slovenia. And there are no Chinese or refugees))



But Kesha is probably more fundamental in appearance. But for my requests - is it better?

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, Bosch is more familiar to me. I would have voted for him. But I didn’t deal with this specifically, I have another, with a bigger bowl.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, I am Moulinex on Friday in the hands of a cruiser in Auchan, I also liked it outwardly, but I can't say what, but something strained ... I, of course, for Kenwood, do you want to buy in Okey?

Yes, from the third time I scratched out the stickers from the courier))) He apparently got scared of me, and gave me a whole roll, 40 pieces - for sure))
I don’t know, I’ll never choose, probably throws from side to side. I have Bosch, the very first cube (5529?) In a complete set. I am satisfied with it, as a combine, although I only use the cube cutter regularly and shredders in the harvesting season. And after almost 10 years, I found myself with a rub - absolutely delighted! I already bought a manual auger juicer, and a sieve Ariete, and I didn't like anything until I saw a familiar photo in the subject of attachments))
In general, I'm happy with Bosch, I didn't have Kesha.
Olya, did you like Flexi at Mulinex? Solid, or for air mass?
But I can't refuse Kesha either, I have a 50% discount)))



And in Boch - a recipe for egg paste, only flour and eggs. And even if only from 300 g of flour (and I don't do it anymore, and in general I have an elephant now), but the fact itself! And bread from 1 kg of flour. And he does not write that he is not suitable for a tight dough.
But Bosch is lighter than Moulinex. True, Moulinex comes with a blender, maybe the total weight is indicated?

But I can't refuse Kesha either, I have a 50% discount)))

And 40 stickers, in general, they should give away for free
Light, my Bosch MUM5 suits everyone. Flexi bought separately for him.

I read it, figured it out. These are stickers for Kenwood ... And I dream about Bosh.
Excuse me!

Now choose from:

I'm for kenwood. Compared with Bosch, Kenwood seemed more stable to me.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, I did not examine the attachments in such detail, I just looked at this Mulinex from the technical side, twisted it in my hands, but I don’t understand what, but something is wrong! Why do you need Bosch again ?? Do you have ..

it seemed to me.

Didn't seem, indeed! I have compared one hundred thousand times,

[Svetochka]

Svetochka, my opinion is Kenwood. In terms of weight - it will not jump, in terms of power - excellent. 5 liters is a great bowl! In terms of reliability - out of competition (although I also love Bosch, but there are Kesha and Bosch - Kesha wins!)! Dough, minced meat - IMHO, Kesha will do it without straining. And Bosch will cry. Especially on rye and for pasta / dumplings. And Kesha's nozzles are more impressive and heavier. I can't say anything about Moulinex, but it is definitely inferior to these two.

Didn't seem, indeed! I have compared one hundred thousand times,

I just compared it with the old Bosch, so I carefully wrote - you never know what is happening to him now. I just have kMix, and I am very happy with it.

[Fotina]

Fotina, Svetochka, so I want to add - and did not try to knead a cube for pasta / dumplings in Boche? An excellent dough in the food processor turns out!

[Lyuba]

Lyuba, yes, I do it. It was just important for me that the machine can make dense dough, which means it can handle rye too.




Elena, Did you make rye dough? Fine? I would have had enough of 500 g of flour)

Did you make rye dough?

Pure rye - no, only mixed. But I do it there for rolling paste.

[Nataliya]

Nataliya, I feel like a traitor)) but 10 kg of net mass versus 5 ...



What about mixed? 50:50 is also suitable, I rarely make pure rye and only for myself, mine is more like mixed flour or wheat

With mixed, no problems at all. With a very dense dough, of course, he shakes his head, but does not even get warm.

[Fotina]

Fotina, Sveta!!! My verdict is Kenwood KM750 for sure! I have several Boshes and Moulinex red. So ... Kenwood rules!

my opinion is Kenwood. In terms of weight - it will not jump, in terms of power - excellent. 5 liters is a great bowl! Reliability - out of competition

[Lena]

Lena, I support !!

Girls, I'm also in the process of choosing. And there are very few denyuzhek. I can't buy everything. And what are these stickers and how many are needed. What will the mixer price be? Of course I have nothing, but at least find out.

At Okey, there are 50% discount stickers for kenwood kmix 750. 15 pieces are needed, 1 sticker - for every 300 rubles of the check.
The cost is 17,500 instead of 34,000 (32,500 on the official website).

Good day. Checked out a kitchen machine, Kohler DH-5301M
advise the right choice. ?
Thank you in advance.

Outwardly very interesting, and the reviews are good!

Thank you very much for your answer.

[zvezda]

zvezda, and where did you find the description? For fun, I googled - only sewing machines are issued ...

[Svetlana]

SvetlanaI think I just napulal man ,, 5201
Here
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[zvezda]

zvezda, Thank you! Looked ... a serious thing. In general, they gave a link to a similar device and at a similar price. Now on the market negative reviews have gone on that dough mixer.

[Vitaly54]

There is no information about the manufacturer anywhere - how many years they have been manufacturing and what kind of equipment. This brand is not represented on the European Amazons.

there is an official site, but it is in a strange format. As if for a mobile application.

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The address of the service center is also there, but whether repairs are taking place there is a big question. Yandex does not issue a service center to this address.

Vitaly54, Vitaly, how did you decide to buy this combine in Novokuznetsk, if the service center is only in Moscow?

I suggested it to my wife, Kenwood. I didn't like that there were only three nozzles and a power of 1200 watts.I found it myself on the Internet, 1500 watts and 12 or 13 nozzles. They said that there is a guarantee. The goods come, you look and pay the courier, after visiting Novokuznetsk, a large village. there are a lot of shops just no sense. The fourth of December will come and see. Children and grandchildren love dumplings, so they ordered it for the sake of a cool dough. If you advise about it, it’s probably not too late, change it Thank you. decision.

If you advise about it, it’s probably not too late, change it Thank you. decision.

Well, how can I advise? I have not seen this machine how it works. There is no video on YouTube either. This is alarming. And how you decide.

Maybe the members of the forum-owners of this car will respond.

I would definitely choose from those brands that have a service center in Novokuznetsk. Because the purchase is not cheap, for many years of service.

An interesting model, I also considered it, or rather an analogue of Rawmid RLM-05, by the way it cost a little cheaper. Induction in both the bowl and under the blender. But after watching a video on kneading the dough on the Internet, I refused to buy. Not impressed at all. And in the RLM, by the way, the declared power is 1200.

I would definitely choose from those brands that have a service center in Novokuznetsk.

I join !! And Kenwood is already pooveden over the years and our de forum users, I have 023 for 10 years, and there are no complaints !!
But what a relief to your design for several years ,,, you don’t have to think about a gift for NG, DR, March 8 ,,, etc !! The nozzle is the best gift !! And you can choose a complete set by yourself .. don't buy what you don't need, don't clog up the space!
And 1500 W .. this is not the power of the combine itself .. don’t look at it, but start from the opinions of real users! Our forum has helped a lot in this regard, and some shops and sites already link to us .. they write, "Checked by "

Thanks to all! The wife will come home from work, I will give you to read.

[Vitaly54]

Vitaly54, Vitaly, I also want to explain why I check every brand for availability in Europe. Because it is impossible for the consumer to snatch China of dubious quality there. Because there are very strict rules that protect the buyer. Within THREE years, you can return the equipment simply if you did not like it, and even more so if it broke (return to the seller or manufacturer is possible). Do you feel it? No-name without quality guarantees simply will not stick there - it's more expensive for itself. Unfortunately, everything is far from being the case in Russia.

In no way am I saying that the car is bad. I just gave you the facts, and then decide for yourself.

why I check every brand for presence in Europe.

Likewise.

[Svetlenki]

Svetlenki, Sveta! It is great that you educate us and draw the attention of many to what we would never draw him to. Thank you very much!
But about the service centers, everything is not so rosy. My Novosibirsk is a 2.5 million city, Novokuznetsk is a small grain of sand next to Novosibirsk, although there is coal.
But there are practically no service centers in Novosibirsk. Many times I read in books under a guarantee, such as warranty coupons, the addresses in Novosibirsk of service centers of such and such equipment. In fact, they are not even in sight. I live in the very center of the city and I go to repair equipment not in the most central area, where the master takes everything that they carry. And something accepts, but something does not, as the left heel wants.
I think the story is the same in Novokuznetsk. So the absence of a service center in some of the peripheral cities is the history of almost every city in Russia. Moscow is an enclave, everything is different there.

Behind Moscow, Russia ends. And they send us, instead of the ordered goods, bolts, nuts, bricks. The police are sent away, they say we will not find them. In stores, there is no choice. So we order, via the Internet, what they brought and you could see if there was a brick or the goods that you ordered. This is how we live here, and it was even worse.

Behind Moscow, Russia ends.

But but ... everything is fine with us !!!

Olya! It is very good that everything is fine with you. But Russia is big!

[Vitaly]

Vitaly, I answered your phrase! In addition to Moscow, there is also St. Petersburg ...

In Moscow, there is also Peter ...

This is where civilization ends ...

Within THREE years, you can return the equipment simply if you did not like it, and even more so if it broke (return to the seller or manufacturer is possible).

Two weeks ago bought Kenwood 28 in m-video. There is such a service: you pay for an additional guarantee for 1-5 years. And during this time you can change the technique for any other, if you take it more expensive, you pay extra, and if it is cheaper, the difference is refunded. You can just hand over and get your money back. Thus, you use the equipment for the entire warranty period (1-5 years), and then change it to another one if you want. The calculation takes into account the amount that was paid for it, and not the one that will be at the time of the exchange. Thus, we have already changed the Delongue coffee machine to Philips with a surcharge. Kenwood has a 3-year warranty. Then we will pay extra and exchange for a more expensive model. And all the appliances in the house were bought with such a guarantee. Very convenient (don't consider it an advertisement). Maybe someone will come in handy.

Girls have such a car 🔗 It is very interesting to hear the reviews for her.

[Vitaly54]

Vitaly54,

Well, I don’t know ... In Tula with Russia, it turned out to be nothing)). I have been living on Internet orders for 15 years. There have never been bolts, nuts and bricks, although almost everything is prepaid and a lot from abroad. Pah-pah)). Why do you have such a problem with this? Even strange. And if you pay attention to the largest Internet stores? It's some kind of guarantee ...

Dear forum users. Good afternoon everyone. Prompt to cope, kitchen machine KEhwoob kmix kmx 750 RD with thick dumplings, for home.

[Vitaly]

Vitaly, the pizza dough (500 g flour / 250 ml water) kneads well. But I don’t know anymore, I haven’t tried it.

Svetlana, Thank you. It costs 32t, a kettle and a toaster are included as a gift. Weight 11kg. But it is not important . The budget is up to 35 tons, the most important thing is thick dough, and the attachments can be bought on the sly. Maybe for this amount, the members of the forum will advise. Retirement will not run away and this is the last reserve that was kept for hunting and fishing for a period of 3-5 years.