Kneading machines

[Eva3]

Eva3, congratulations on your new game! You still settled on Klarstein. Well, right! The main thing is that it suits you. But mine knocks 2 eggs. Is it metal or plastic? My body is metal. But in yours, I liked the beater. I would like such an additional bitter to my metal one.
svetta, yes, I have Klarstein, but not that at all.

The body is plastic. While looking closely, I want to not disappoint. Well, to compare except with Saturn (Prospero does not count), there is nothing. Well, in Saturn, suckers are definitely out of competition, there are only 4 of them, so they attach to the table, they cannot be torn off by force. Klarstein has 6 of them, but they are not firmly attached, you can easily tear off and move around the table. The weight, of course, may not be 8 kg as they write everywhere, but definitely more than 5 kg and decently heavier than Saturn. So I hope there will be no jumping when kneading the dough. When turned on simultaneously at idle, no differences were noticed either in sound or in speed (purely visually), that is, 650 Saturn is not particularly inferior to 1300 Klarstein. May be noticeable under load. Of course, more often, Saturn has 4.3, but visually it is almost not noticeable. The bowl is stainless steel (the magnet does not stick), but it is one third lighter than the Saturn one. But it doesn't feel very flimsy to the touch. Here in Prospero it seemed to me quite flimsy, slightly thicker than foil. And it was lighter in weight than in Klarstein. Somehow like this. If there is anything new, I will add.
Nila, but the bitter just confused me, it seems to me that the iron is more reliable. By the way, the hook is not stainless steel, probably some kind of alloy. Well, in the hands of a heavy one, inspires confidence. Saturn also has a similar alloy, the hook itself is also impressive, but easier.

in UAH 2550 plus delivery.

Very good price! Let your favorite bread mix perfectly!

[Eva3]

Eva3, I have such a kneader. Also last year on OLX I took, gray-pearl color, wind version, 1200 W, there is an instruction, but in German). Cost 1600 UAH. + delivery, but he is "naked", only kneader-beater, planetary, 3 nozzles, 6 speeds.

Thank you very much Nele, I also received a lot of information from her on the work of the kneader.

I kneaded the dough for Easter last year according to a recipe for 1 kg of flour, oh, how cool, hands are free, the dough turned out to be great !!!!, I started at the slowest and gradually reached 3 speeds. The oil intervened by 2. It stood on the suction cups monolithically (it is heavy), barely then removed it from the table top. But I haven't kneaded anything at high speed yet, I don't know if it will "flutter".

I don't use it often yet. There is no extra space in the kitchen, it is in the closet.
Recently I bought a bowl additional to it (the same as my own) for 200 UAH. on the same OLX.

I want to try different types of dough, cream for cakes, but so far my hands don't get it.
I will follow Temko, I hope I will learn a lot of useful and interesting things.
Please share information on how you will get it.

[Eva3]

but the bitter just confused me, it seems to me that the iron is more reliable.

Eva3, try to make an omelet from two eggs with a bitter. They can also beat the whites.

I can't say anything here. And about the dough ... You can shower me with slippers, but this Prospero has a kneading hook and features of rotation very much like Boshikov. Here in the video Prospero kneads a quite thick dough with a hook.

I have a Boshik. But when the dough has already formed into such a bun and just hangs on the hook, I set 1 speed and then the hook begins to stretch the dough slowly and smoothly), after all, we need to do the stretching. Look at how it is manually kneaded - it is stretched.Why swing a bun on a hook in a bowl?

[Korata]

Korata, agree with you. Why knead the dough at maximum speed? At minimum speeds, the dough is exactly what stretches. And at the maximum - the head shakes and the dough just rolls, hitting the bowl.

[Tatalo4ka]

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in..._smf&topic=483518.new#newGirls, thank you all for your advice and interest, we have a Temka about this kneader, I wrote my impressions of the kneading today and tried to make a video. Do not scold me for the quality, I myself have already seen how the dough was mixed, I could not reshoot.



Tatalo4ka, I also have nothing but a kneader, and I don't really need it. I looked for sale on the OLH like a blender and a meat grinder with attachments, I even wanted to take it, but I found a video on YouTube of how the meat is grinded there, I did not fit at all. They barely push him there. I only had time to throw in my Zelmer at first. Now the knives are really dull, it got worse. And I also really wanted silver-gray, but it was not on sale. Well, okay, and this one is nothing.

[Eva3]

Eva3 , the color does not matter, the main thing is to serve faithfully.
I will follow the topic about our model, thanks for the info and video.

[Tatalo4ka]

Tatalo4ka, that just I have all the household appliances in the kitchen that is in sight, including the refrigerator, silver-gray, except for the oven, it is black, but there is a silver rim. The choice was between black and beige. Well, black in this place would not look very good to me, but at least it matches the color of the walls. Saturn was generally white.

Good day!
To begin with, as many here begin, "my head is already spinning ...".
I am looking for a kneader for bread dough. As I understand it, almost all kneaders have a hook made of aluminum. We decided to avoid aluminum cookware on principle. Can you recommend any mixer where the hooks are NOT aluminum?
So far I've only found bosh mum (correct if I'm wrong). But the high price and a bunch of unnecessary accessories are annoying. Do you think the more affordable Boshiks - 500-600 watts - can cope with the bread dough?

If someone is so kind, and having doubts about what material his hooks are from, wants to conduct a test, the Internet gives such tips on how to distinguish aluminum from stainless steel:
1. Plain paper won't lie. The method is very simple. Experimental conditions: you need white, maximum thick paper (printer paper is also suitable). Remove dirt from the edge of the test piece with a thick cloth. Swipe the cleaned places alternately with some pressure on the sheet. There will be no traces of stainless steel. The aluminum will trace gray stripes.
2. By the color of the metal, how to distinguish aluminum from stainless steel? The surface of the object of a shiny colorless shade that does not change over time is stainless steel. The matte surface of a product with a grayish or whitish color is aluminum. It will not be polished to a high gloss with sandpaper. Check it out.
3. Acid test. All acids, starting with ordinary citric acid and ending with more aggressive ones, will leave traces on an aluminum surface. You will not see them on stainless steel, it does not react with acids.

almost all kneaders have a hook made of aluminum.

For the first time in my life I hear that aluminum is used for kneaders! It cannot be there a priori! All hooks, bowls and other parts in contact with products are made only of stainless steel. Only!
I wonder where you got this information from?

[svetta]

svetta, full of planetary mixers that have a silumin hook. The same Kenwood has such models. But I read that you can buy it from stainless steel later.

[Anna]

Anna,
Honestly, I can't even imagine that there is a silumin!
It just doesn't fit in my head. AS???
I take aluminum quite calmly, at the household level it is unrealistic to get harm from it. But that's why they make silumin hooks ???

[svetta]

svetta, well, what are you doing? And why do they make silumin shafts at meat grinders? Apparently, there is a reason for this and, most importantly, it is not prohibited by laws by any GOSTs or whatever else regulates the safety of production ...

[Sveta]

Sveta, listen, here I am a brake !!!!! Not, well, really, all luminium meat grinders. And why did I get stuck?
I take all my words back.

Could someone explain to me about the power indicator? It seemed to me that the more powerful, the more reliable. Itself was guided by the power in the region of 1000 W. And here I look at Kitchenaid's planetary mixer power of 300 watts. How is this possible?

How is this possible?

Maybe. Because the capacities are different. Peak and constant ... Manufacturers believe that it is necessary to lure in large numbers. So they lure. If you look at the power indicators of professional equipment, you will rarely find thousands there.

Concerning the choice of the kneader. I strongly advise you to read this topic at least for the last year. And if you have already decided on the brand, then we have separate topics for many models of planetary mixers and kneaders. There you can already ask the owners more specifically what interests you.

I have a bread maker, KitchenAid Artisan and Ankarsrum. From experience, I will always knead flour dough up to 600 grams in a Panasonic bread maker. I knead for pizza in Kitchen (although I consider it a confectionery unit IMHO), but if there are more than 500 grams of total weight for a few loaves of rye or rye-wheat bread, for cakes made of flour there are more than 500 grams of total weight - in Ankarsrum.

If you choose one thing, I would choose a Panasonic bread maker as a kneader.

But I know bakers who create masterpieces in Bosch Mum. Luda MarianaAha is delighted with kneading dough in Boch with a plastic bowl (they don't even make them anymore).

So study, be more specific and ask questions

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So study, be more specific and ask questions

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Svetlana, thanks for the detailed answer!
I have already spent many hours studying this topic on this forum and not only. great resource, so much useful information. And reviews from real people. And then on some sites the reviews look very suspicious ...

So I'm in the process of thinking ...

Girls,! I ask you a question - I wanted a dough mixer, I thought about the planetary, so that it would be like an adult ... and beautiful. .. to cook, so that you can whip the proteins and knead the dough and knead different and tough especially and knead the minced meat on sausages-sausage - and then there was a bread maker, she's still on the way, but I'm thinking now, with bread and dough, but the rest is like ? There is a vortex mixer (old man, I'm afraid even to think that it will be covered), but it is still working - whips the whites, whips the blender-leg the element, but you can't compare with a vortex ..., but knead the meat with nothing at all. We need such a workhorse. ... in terms of time and load of use, I want both in the tail and in the mane. .. I cook for me and my husband (we are .... though together, but .... lovers to eat a lot and tasty) and my daughter's family - I try to buy only the source code - I do it myself. If I do, I don’t know how, I put up pies, part for food, the rest is in the freezers, I have them 3 pieces of Xp, I don’t want to torment meats, I can’t buy right now, I want to decide what I need. Advise on what to look and want. With HP it was all simple - everyone said, only Panasonic and there were 3 models to choose from, maybe with a dough mixer the same way. ... although .... now the priority is the washer, but .... suddenly. ...- but I'm not ready to read the topic now.

[kartinka]

kartinka
I highly recommend Arkasha (Ankarsrum) - it’s a little expensive, of course, but I’m absolutely delighted with the Beast machine - we mix different doughs with our daughters from biscuit to pasta (Italian flour up to 2 kg and up to 20 eggs, if I add water, then no more than 50 ml) ... I make black sourdough bread - on average, about 3 kg of dough. I also bought a set of attachments with a meat grinder, juicer, auger, etc. - super fun! I plan to replenish his wardrobe with another grater and possibly a mill ...

I have a Chinese Eurolux. I got it on the Internet quite by accident a month ago. I wanted another brand, but it was not there, but I was "boiling". I didn't want to dump money in large quantities. In short, together with the shipment, it cost me 12 thousand. with a penny.Kneading different doughs and whipping up creams, I'm happy. I have no complaints about work, noise, or anything. It can be purchased separately "additives" such as a meat grinder, blender, rolling for pasta and so on, the prices for all this are reasonable.

[Irene]

I have a Chinese Eurolux

Irene, but imagine in more detail, pliz, a stranger. Weight, power, bowl volume, material of planetary attachments, and more.

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[Irene]

Irene, but imagine in more detail, pliz, a stranger. Weight, power, bowl volume, material of planetary attachments, and more.

google Planetary Mixer EUROLUX ST100

google Planetary Mixer EUROLUX ST100

I googled, and in response, silence, so I asked you. Excuse me.

[Peter Push]

Peter Push, the search gave me a store, there are characteristics, 🔗 , for some reason I can't insert a link to another store.
And the video

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[Peter Push]

Googled, and in response, silence

Peter Push, Nataliya, I also found general information on it, in principle. But you probably have these sites blocked

What to bring here, tell me? This info?

Weight, power, bowl volume, material of planetary attachments, and more.

🔗./products/mikser-planetarnyj-eurolux-st100
Maximum power: 1500W.
Bowl volume: 5.5 l.
Metal case
Engine with cooling system and overheating protection
Bowl (bowl) stainless steel with handles
6 speeds + pulse mode
Time of continuous work under load: up to 15 minutes.
Light indication of operating modes
Noise level: up to 85 dB
Anti-slip design
Protective cover prevents splashing
Dimensions:
40 cm - height (51 cm - height with the upper part raised),
40 cm - width,
30 cm - depth
Net weight: 9.1 kg.
Gross weight: 10.6 kg.

[Svetlenki]

What to bring here, tell me? This info?

Svetlenki, thanks for your feedback! I would also like to be specific from the consumer. You know how dear it is for those looking for these reviews, so to speak, first-hand, and for gadgetholics who already have a dough mixer, read again about the new technique (you understand me). Good luck to you!



Irene, what have you already done on it? How was it?

Planetary mixer EUROLUX ST100

I can't find the material of the nozzles. Do not indicate.

Interestingly, it is very similar to the Gemlux ST100 mixer. Even as part of the title.

[Sveta]

Sveta, in the video from the previous page, the man at the very beginning says that it is produced by the same who and the Gemelux, and this is an analogue of the model that you write, only the nozzles are different and the gearbox (like in EuroLux it is made of metal), well, there is a little button design.

Girls, can anyone compare this mixer with frosy?

Girls, can anyone compare this mixer with frosy?

only with masha)) what is it - frosya?

[Irene]

only with masha))

Irene,

Here is what kind of kneader we have affectionately called Frosey

Mixer-kneader First FA-5259-2

What do I want to say without going into technical specifications? Each device requires smart handling, you need to understand the possibilities and not have the illusion that the machine will do everything for you. I read the topic about First, some of the comments surprised me. For example, one forum member writes that she does not like that the dough is wound on a hook and the mixer twists it. Well, how? The mixer has no hands to remove the dough from the hook, it does not set the density of the dough, the amount of flour, eggs, butter, etc. As for whipping the whites, this is a separate feature. For example, it's stupid to drive such a monster for a scanty one protein and whipping one protein is not an indicator of anything, for this there are other mixers.
Buying my kneader, I determined myself a budget, knew how much power the car I want and knew why I would have it. I went to the shops, looked at the offers. Of course, I read the forums a little. And when there was no one that I would buy, I easily agreed to the one that I use. But first, I asked the consultant in detail what and how.
You can and should ask the opinion of others, but the decision to make and use only you. Be consistent with your needs and capabilities.

[Irene]

Buying my kneader, I determined myself a budget, knew how much power the car I want and knew why I would have it.

IreneWhy did you buy this particular car and did it cope with your tasks? What were these tasks, how did the machine solve them?



Your trip to buying kitchen helpers impresses me.

[Irene]

IreneWhy did you buy this particular car and did it cope with your tasks? What were these tasks, how did the machine solve them?



Your trip to buying kitchen helpers impresses me.

I bought a kneader for home use. I like the oven. Recently, I made a reconstruction in the kitchen, changed the oven. So I decided to buy a dough mixer because everything always came down to kneading the dough. To be honest, I don't like kneading, I used a bread machine for buns and pies, but I wanted more)) The kneader kneads yeast dough, and yeast-free, dumplings, and shortbread dough for me, everything turns out fine. I also kneaded for pancakes. I tried to beat whites, I have no complaints)) I do nothing on an industrial scale, purely for myself. If I need to make butter or whip cream, make mayonnaise, it's easier for me to take a hand mixer. On the website where I bought this kneader, I was told that it was bought by entrepreneurs who sell their baked goods.

[Irene]

Irene, Thank you!

Good day. I am planning to purchase a planetary mixer. The main task is to knead yeast and unleavened dough. (Previously, this work was done by a bread maker, but I rarely bake bread myself, I used it more for kneading).
I have seen enough on the Internet, I chose a model. But after going through the available shops, I found only:
dough mixer sinbo SMX-2743
mixer dough mixer sinbo SMX-2739 - this one with a timer
mixer blender CENTEK CT-1135, (no blender needed)
and food processor with bowl and attachments for dough Bosch MUM4426
Now I am facing a choice between sinbo and Bosch (the difference is insignificant for the price). Who has such models, tell us how they cope with the test.

[Natalia]

Natalia, I have a similar Bosch, 4855. Has worked faithfully for 7 years. The dough is wonderful, but from a small amount of flour - more than 650 g of flour, I did not load it. I didn’t make dumplings / dumplings in it (I did it in a food processor), I don’t know if such a tight one will pull. Beats very well too! The blender is good, but it is too small in my model. The meat grinder is normal, I put a large grate on it (it fits from an ordinary manual meat grinder!) - great! But, of course, the veins / films must be cut off from the meat. Shredders are not bad, but you need to buy a medium grater for potato pancakes. He would have worked for me further, but bought a large Kenwood. So - now he lives on the mezzanine.

[Tyetyort]

Tyetyort, hello, please tell me the brand and model of your kneader, and where to buy

[Irene]

Girls, thanks for your feedback on the kneader. Today I received EUROLUX ST 100 as a gift. Immediately I kneaded dumplings with 250 g of water. It's going hard ... But in the picture you need to knead with a bitter, and I kneaded with a hook. I will try again! Whipped 3 squirrels perfectly! But for 3 yolks ... I had to press my head (to capture) then went to beat it myself. The biscuit turned out great. in the photo there are already leftovers.
Irene, thanks for your feedback on the model. Thanks to you, I now have this mixer!

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Now, just not to break! By the way, the model is not written anywhere on the mixer and on the box - only ST 100. The power is indicated on the glued label, so it's not a fact that 1500 watts.

Girls, thanks for your feedback on the kneader. Today I received EUROLUX ST 100 as a gift. Immediately I kneaded dumplings with 250 g of water.

Hello, can you tell me how does your homemaker handle a cool test? As time passes

Steep dough kneads well. But yeast ... I like kneading with my hands more. the machine seems to interrupt.

Steep dough kneads well.But yeast ... I like kneading with my hands more. the machine seems to interrupt.

Thank you, I am interested in the machine for the bread.

[Taem]

I am interested in the machine for bread.

Taem, kneading the dough with a kneader is often difficult. In fact, the kneading is not so difficult, all you need to do is knead the dough until the gluten develops well, which means bring the dough to a state where it not only does not "smear", but becomes smooth and gathers into a lump.
To achieve such a result, it is not the type of kneader that is important, but the competent sequence of the baker's actions. The same result is necessary, and what is more important, it is possible to get it in any mixer.
Basic rules: 1. Use a proven recipe. 2. In the bowl first water, then flour. 3. At the lowest speed min. 5 Mix all ingredients well. 4. Turn off the kneader and, with the bowl lid closed, let the dough stand for 20 - 30 minutes, let the flour proteins swell, with mechanical action on them gluten will develop. 5. Then the main kneading for 10 - 20 minutes at speed 1 or 2 (the wetter the dough, the higher the speed). The dough should gather like a bun around the hook, clean the bowl and not leave a wet litter on the bottom of the bowl. 6. Kneaders heat up the dough very much, so take the liquid from the refrigerator, in summer you need to use ice water. Salt inhibits the development of gluten, add it at 5-7 minutes of the main batch. Kneading the dough is not difficult, it may not work the first time. But the road is mastered by the walker, over time, at a glance, you will determine the readiness of the test. The finished bread dough is soft and firm like the butt of a small child.

[Taem]

Taem, kneading the dough with a kneader is often difficult. In fact, the kneading is not so difficult, all you need to do is knead the dough until the gluten develops well, which means bring the dough to a state where it not only does not "smear", but becomes smooth and gathers into a lump.
To achieve such a result, it is not the type of kneader that is important, but the competent sequence of the baker's actions. The same result is necessary, and what is more important, it is possible to get it in any mixer.
Basic rules: 1. Use a proven recipe. 2. In the bowl first water, then flour. 3. At the lowest speed min. 5 Mix all ingredients well. 4. Turn off the kneader and, with the bowl lid closed, let the dough stand for 20 - 30 minutes, let the flour proteins swell, with mechanical action on them gluten will develop. 5. Then the main kneading for 10 - 20 minutes at speed 1 or 2 (the wetter the dough, the higher the speed). The dough should gather like a bun around the hook, clean the bowl and not leave a wet bedding on the bottom of the bowl. 6. Kneaders heat up the dough very much, so take the liquid from the refrigerator, in summer you need to use ice water. Salt inhibits the development of gluten, add it at 5-7 minutes of the main batch. Kneading the dough is not difficult, it may not work the first time. But the road is mastered by the walker, over time, at a glance, you will determine the readiness of the test. The finished bread dough is soft and firm like the butt of a small child.

Thanks for the answer, I like the bread maker as revenge, both would be more)

[Taem]

I like the bread maker as revenge, both would be more)

Taem, I have HP Panasonic, it kneads well, but the kneader is still many orders of magnitude better. If there is not a lot of stove, from time to time, then hp is enough.

My dough mixer First burgundy has been idle for six months already. I bought it in excitement, looking at others. Probably only 2 times I used it, now it only takes place. Yeast dough was kneaded once and minced meat for sausage, but for the dough there is a Panasonic bread maker, for minced meat a Bosch combine with a kneader, which mixes the minced meat perfectly. So I think: bought it for a fig?