"Rye" tips from Gasha

0.5 tsp yeast must be added. I tried without them - the bread rose badly.

I have been reading all this for a month now and I can’t understand in any way, but why do we need a bread maker if there are so many wisdom? As far as I understand, for convenience, I filled it in and fell asleep, pressed two buttons and do other things. Why such a vegetable garden? I started baking the first bread in a gas oven and immediately began to get it, then I bought more impressive equipment, recently they gave me a bread maker, I baked a little, but something was wrong. Then the top fell through. then crumbling, then no taste. And most importantly, there is no interest. Returned to the origins, hands and senses, no machine can replace ...

[Igor]

Igor, this topic is about bread with a predominance of rye flour. To bake such bread in a bread maker, dances with tambourines are really needed, even though many bread makers have special programs for baking rye bread.
Bread with a predominance of wheat flour is obtained in bread makers pretty well, although, for my taste, the oven is tastier. But you don't always have time for it, but you want homemade bread ...

Then the top fell through. then crumbling, then no taste.

And this is your unsuccessful bread maker, or you have not been able to adapt to it. Because

no interest

I now have Panasonic and with it like in advertising: I lay everything in the evening and wake up in the morning from the aroma of freshly baked bread. I use different recipes and the bread is different too. But wheat. Sourdough rye - only in the oven.

Peace be with you bakers!
Well, anyway, do not knead with your hands

And this is your unsuccessful bread maker, or you did not manage to adapt to it

But not a fact. In my HP, the top does not fall through, everything is fine in crumbling. BUT! my family does not like bread from HP, only the oven. And in reality, bread from the oven is incomparably tastier. So my HP (Panasonic, if that) acts only as a correct kneader

correct kneader

Lenuska, and what, there are wrong ones ?!

and what, there are also wrong

And then
Inn, I mean keeping the heat and kneading regime. I also interfere with cooking, but I like to cook the dough in HP better - it's easier there.

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And I never had a bread maker.
I think that baking real bread is
handwork. And the pleasure and work.